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Re: Archibald White
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 20 October 18 08:51 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth with first two children living with what looks to be her mother in 1841 census  and archibald imprisoned in 1839. Looks like Elizabeth is in Gaol for 1851 census.

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Re: Archibald White
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 20 October 18 08:54 BST (UK) »
Margaret died 1846.
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Re: Archibald White
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 20 October 18 09:05 BST (UK) »
Looks like a possible son born 4/2/1860 Berwick workhouse Robert White mother Elizabeth.

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Re: Archibald White
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 October 18 09:10 BST (UK) »
Robert could be with william and Mary Tye aged one adopted son in 1861.

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Re: Archibald White
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 20 October 18 10:39 BST (UK) »
First child born 1838, 1826 birth for him does not sound likely!
Does anyone have an actual sighting for him with Elizabeth or one of his children that would confirm age?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=725562.0
 - it looks like there was an Archibald White born 1817 in Berwick, sailor, but whether he was the man married (? or not) to Elizabeth Knox is another matter.  He does seem the most likely option.

Ditto whether he is the same man who died at sea in 1859 - it is entirely possible that your Archibald jumped ship somewhere else and lived out his life in another country.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/merchant-seaman-serving-1858-1917/
http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/archivecrewlists/12667
 - 12667 is the official number for the Humphrey Nelson -  it looks like ship lists 1857/8/9 are at The National Archives (Kew). Hopefully these would show an age/birthplace for the Archibald White on that ship.


http://www.workhouses.org.uk/BerwickUponTweed/BerwickBirths1837-73.shtml
 - some of the children's births are in the Workhouse including a Robert b. 1854 and a Robert b. 1860

http://www.berwickfriends.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/GBR-43-minutes.pdf
 - a mention here of Elizabeth White's illegitimate child in 1854, possibly conceived while she was a prisoner...

http://www.berwickfriends.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/GBR-39-minutes.pdf
 - in 1843, Jane White, mother in prison, father deserted them

http://www.berwickfriends.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Newsletter-2010-September.pdf
 - here, a very colourful 1848 newspaper article describes Elizabeth Knox or White, aged 31, deserted by her husband "five years ago".

So by around 1843 he was gone (perhaps about long enough to father Margaret 1844 - or not?)

https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
Possible sighting:
Saturday 30 March 1844, Kentish Independent  - Archibald White, a seaman, one of two men brought up for theft.
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Re: Archibald White
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 20 October 18 15:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all this info! It will keep me busy for a while. I have attached the only connection I have so far!!
There is certainly some great reading in amongst it!!!

Is it possible for anyone to send me a screen shot of the possible sighting as I havenít got access to the newspaper articles.
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Re: Archibald White
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 20 October 18 16:44 BST (UK) »
Many local libraries have access to online newspapers.  I am able to access them at home from my local library using my library number.
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Re: Archibald White
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 20 October 18 17:20 BST (UK) »
Fab, I will see what I can do with my local library 👍
Hopefully I will find something there x
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