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Re: Investigative - detective - or idiotic supposition
« Reply #9 on: Monday 22 October 18 21:26 BST (UK) »
Just had a minute LIGHT BULB flicker


I wonder did he know ! the name of his father and name one of his sons after him?

He had two sons and one was named Albert Alexander ---    now theres something to check on long cold winter nights.....

The other was named after his Wifes family. 

so an interesting thought.


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thank you all and thank you to those who helped on this back in 2014 and previous to that

Willsy worked like a trouper bless you

and Sandy Hall and others... forgive the memory. xx

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Re: Investigative - detective - or idiotic supposition
« Reply #10 on: Monday 22 October 18 21:28 BST (UK) »
I can download Charles MArshall's will and take a look at it for you xinia to see what it says if you like.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 22 October 18 21:44 BST (UK) »
thank you but DONT pay for it  I have it  :)

that would be great.

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Re: Investigative - detective - or idiotic supposition
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 04:11 BST (UK) »
People named in the will of Rev Charles Marshall 1818

Martha & William Aknos or Akios & children.
Leah Anna Wallis, George Wallis & children.
Mary the wife of Thomas Collier. Her brothers John and Robert Talbot.
‘Friend’ Mary Ann Susannah Mount. Her mother Jane now wife of Richard Burton.
Rev Joseph Whitehead.

Most wills from The National Archives proved at PCC (Canterbury), are on Ancestry - so no need to pay xinia!
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs


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Re: Investigative - detective - or idiotic supposition
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 08:51 BST (UK) »
No doubt yet another colncidence,but there is a (Francis Henry) Marshall,surgeon,in Brixworth in the 1841 census,of the same age as Elizabeth.

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Re: Investigative - detective - or idiotic supposition
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 11:00 BST (UK) »
OH

crikey :)   

Not sure I knew about him.. although I did go through all Marshalls at the time.. and have given his father the maybe name of -- Mr Marshall...   Wish there were Bastardy records for the area.. but Elizabeth seems to have --- left him with the Clements (family or friends) whilst she went off to earn a living.

This worried me at first.. thinking she had dumped him, but no.. the photograph and the later connections - made me realise she tried to keep him within the family.   

How would he have known his half sisters otherwise...

One of my private 'hero's' -- he seemed although to tell the occasional little fib.. to attempt to keep up a respectable trade and good family life.

I think I will spend today just researching as much about his kids as possible..

I know a lot already  -- Albert - never married and lived as part of a . n other family for most of his life...  And seemingly not around when his Mother died, she died an awful death.. Dropped her lamp and set herself on fire.. May have been slightly inebriated .. but not fair to say that as it is an assumption. 
Albert is down as a Cripple on the 1911 - I presumed this was to do with his service in the Boar war.. but his records dont mention anything.  I know that the family he lived with were an important part of his life as he seems to have spent a lot of time with them..  He is down as having had syphillis as did his brother - my direct line  Robert.
I have a photo of Robert as an old man... he it is said was a quiet man - kept himself away from his family.  Not a Jolly soul. 
So yes I will look into the family today -- its good to spend one day with one particular branch.. to gain that feeling of closeness.

Sadly Charles Grandson that was named after him was killed in the 2nd world war.

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Re: Investigative - detective - or idiotic supposition
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 12:43 BST (UK) »
I thought maybe the father he “invented” was a hybrid of Thomas,his mother’s husband and a surgeon. Francis Henry Marshall married just after the 1841 census and perhaps this triggered the end of references to Marshall.

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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 13:40 BST (UK) »
Some good reasoning there  :)

and yes Thomas from Mr. B..

uhm....

I will come back and tell you all one day :)  ha ha .. (after I finally get to meet him that is :) )

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