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Can anyone find John HARVEY b1831 - Staffordshire - on 1851 Census???
« on: Wednesday 12 October 05 13:44 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

I am looking for some 1851 Census details on:

JOHN HARVEY born c1831 in Armitage, Staffs married FANNY RUSSELL born c1827 in Lichfield, Staffs.

They had children: Charles,Eliza, Joshua, Sarah and George.

They would probably be on the Census in Staffordshire

JOHN HARVEY appears on the 1871 Census as HARVERY so he may appear on earlier Census records under either of these names.

Ideally, I would like information on John's parents and siblings.

Any help would be greatly appreciated  ;D

Sue Harvey
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Harvey's in Staffordshire, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Lancashire's in Staffordshire

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Re: John HARVEY b1831 - Staffordshire - 1851/61 Census lookup
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 14:04 BST (UK) »
Hello Sue
1861 ref: RG9/1977 Folio 89

John Harvey Head 28 b Armitage             Shoemaker
Fanny Harvey Wife 32 b Lichfield
William Harvey Son 7 b Armitage
Charles Harvey Son 5 b Armitage
Eliza Harvey Dau 1 b Longdon
Hill Top, Longdon, Staffordshire   
 
Sue
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Re: John HARVEY b1831 - Staffordshire - 1851/61 Census lookup
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 14:28 BST (UK) »
This could be John's Parents on the 1861 census
Ref: RG9/1977 Folio 48

Joshua Harvey Head 79 b Armitage, Staffordshire   Farmer of 40 acres emplying 1 man
Sarah Harvey Wife 76 b Kings Bromley, Staff 
Ann Harvey Dau 49 Unm b Bradley, Staff
Fanny Rice Granddaughter 14 b Kings Bromley, Staff
Thomas Porter Son-in-law 51 b Billbrook, Staff         Visitor
Sarah Porter Dau 48 b Sardon, Staff                         Visitor
James Handscre Serv 36 Unm b Kings Bromley, Staff     Cowman
Clarks Hayes Farm, Armitage and Handsacre,  Staffordshire   
 
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Re: John HARVEY b1831 - Staffordshire - 1851 Census lookup
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 14:36 BST (UK) »
Hi

I'm looking for Harvey's in Staffordshire too around the Rugeley area just down the road from Armitage and have a very tentative IGI based tree back to 1735 - waiting for a chance to get to the records office one day!

In my tree I have

John HARVEY and Mary LAKIN married on 21 February 1831 in Rugeley.  Their children were Mary bp 15 June 1836 died after 1901 (mu husband's ancestress), Edmund John 1837?, Elizabeth 1838, James 1843,Fanny 1846, Amelia 1851, Hannah 1852, Isaac 1856 and Jane 1858.

I've always thought that having married in 1831 it was odd that they had no children until 1836 and never seem to have named a child after his father.  Since Armitage is only just down the road from Rugeley I wonder!?

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Re: John HARVEY b1831 - Staffordshire - 1851 Census lookup
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 14:41 BST (UK) »
Its possible that the two are related somehow!

However i havent got that far yet!

I am stuck at John & Fanny and would like to find John's parents, so i'm looking for 1851 Census details which should be online soon. Otherwise, i'm going to have to look for a marriage certificate

Sue
Harvey's in Staffordshire, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Lancashire's in Staffordshire

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Re: John HARVEY b1831 - Staffordshire - 1851 Census lookup
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 15:21 BST (UK) »
Hi found this family in 1841
Armitage
HO107/977/3 page 27
William Harvey 45 wheelwright y
fanny 40 y
Eliza 15
James 12
john 10
Joseph 5
Mary 2
Charles 2mths
john titley 15 wheelwright
Robert dercy? 15  "
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Re: John HARVEY b1831 - Staffordshire - 1851 Census lookup
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 15:32 BST (UK) »
found the same family in 1851 but John is not with them
William 55 wheelright   Rugeley
Fanny 51?                         2
Joseph 14                    armitage
Mary 12
Charles 10
Francis 8
Robert dercy? 29 sev  longton
2015 f.226
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Re: Can anyone find John HARVEY b1831 - Staffordshire - on 1851 Census???
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 17:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks to everyone who has posted so far.

Can anyone find him on the 1851 Census tho?

Sue  ::)
Harvey's in Staffordshire, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Lancashire's in Staffordshire

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Re: Can anyone find John HARVEY b1831 - Staffordshire - on 1851 Census???
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 21:57 BST (UK) »
I've looked through Rugeley and Armitage but unable to find John.

I dont know if you have the marriage details but.........

Marriages Jun 1853
Harvey  John    Lichfield  6b 424   
RUSSEL  Fanny     Lichfield  6b 424   

And Fanny's christening..............

FANNY RUSSELL 
Christening:  28 OCT 1827   Saint Chad, Lichfield, Stafford, England
Father:  THOMAS RUSSELL
Mother:  FRANCES 

And their marriage............

THOMAS RUSSELL 
Spouse:  FRANCES MC CORMICK  Family
Marriage:  28 JAN 1822   Saint Chad, Lichfield, Stafford, England
 


Regards

Sandra
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