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Offline Yip0905

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John HOADL(E)Y
« on: Wednesday 12 October 05 22:42 BST (UK) »
Hi all

I wonder if there is anyone out there that could point me in the right direction?

I am at a brickwall with my ggg grandfather, John Hoadley.
Here is what I have found out about him:

1851 census - aged 17, born in Hellingly
1854 marriage cert - aged 21, father Henry, a farmer
1861 census - aged 27, born in Eastdean
1871 census - aged 38, born in Eastbourne
1881 census - aged 50, born in Rotherfield
1891 census - aged 56, born in Rotherfield
1901 census - aged 66, born in Rotherfield

As you can see, there are conflicting ages and birth places, but I know that each census entry is the same John Hoadley.

Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can find him amongst all this???

Any clues gratefully received   ;D

Yip

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Re: John HOADL(E)Y
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 22:49 BST (UK) »
Hi yip

First of all, welcome to rootschat and especially the Sussex Boards

I would not worry about the ages as they differ only very slightly - if you take the first age of 17 and continue it through, you arrive at 67, which is only 1 year out on the census information.

1851 census - aged 17, born in Hellingly                       17
1854 marriage cert - aged 21, father Henry, a farmer   
1861 census - aged 27, born in Eastdean                     27
1871 census - aged 38, born in Eastbourne                  37
1881 census - aged 50, born in Rotherfield                   47
1891 census - aged 56, born in Rotherfield                   57
1901 census - aged 66, born in Rotherfield                   67


No problems as far as I can see

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Re: John HOADL(E)Y
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 23:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris

Thanks for the welcome.

Perhaps I should have made my query a bit more specific - what I am trying to find is a record of John's baptism.

There is nothing on the IGI that ties up to the information I have gleaned, and quite a few years ago I checked the Hellingly PR's, to no avail. The Rotherfield PR's have no John HOADL(E)Y's either.

It would seem that John didn't know where he was born, which doesn't bode well for me!   :'(

Ah well, who said genealogy was easy??!!!

Yip



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Re: John HOADL(E)Y
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 23:04 BST (UK) »
I guess you have the 1881 listing for Henry Hoadley?

 Henry HOADLEY      Head      M      Male      67      East Chiltington, Sussex,     Farmer 116 Acres Employ 2 Lab      
 Elizabeth HOADLEY      Wife      M      Female      65      Chailey, Sussex,      Farmers Wife      
 Esther BATCHELOR      Dau      M      Female      45      Chailey, Sussex,        


    Dwelling     Tanyard Farm
     Census Place    Fletching, Sussex, England
    Piece / Folio     1055 / 81
    Page Number     1

OOPS! Think maybe this is not your Henry - found this on http://www.thesussexweald.org/P3.asp?PID=4552DaneHl

1851   Farmer   Henry Hoadley, M, Head, married, age 37, born East Chiltington, Sussex, employs 4 people   
Elizabeth Hoadley, F, Wife, married, age 35, born Chailey, Sussex      
Esther Hoadley, F, Daughter, single, age 15, born Chailey, Sussex   
John Hoadley, M, Son, single, age 12, born Chailey, Sussex   Scholar   
Thomas Hoadley, M, Son, single, age 10, born Chailey, Sussex   

Anything to do with your Hoadleys?
Sussex:
Lishers of Sompting, Cunninghams of Houghton, Hammonds of Angmering, Humphrey, Hambleton, Ayling, Pope, Gent

London: Le Franc, Watson, Read

Cornwall: Phillips of St. Ives, Chappells of Penwith
Ireland: O'Connors of Co. Clare

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Re: John HOADL(E)Y
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 23:09 BST (UK) »
Yip

As your John was 17 in 1851 - one can assume he was about 7 on the 1841 census.

I have checked the 1841 census for the 4 places that John gave for his birth place in later census

Hellingly - No entries for Hoadley or variants
East Dean - 3 entries of Hoadley - but non of them has an Henry or a 7 year old John
Eastbourne - No Hoadley entries
Rotherfield - No entries found, but the pages are not very brilliant on this one, ink has bled into the paper - but nothing looks like Hoadley.

Incidentally, where was he married?

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Re: John HOADL(E)Y
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 23:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies Gougy and Chris.

I appreciate the help enormously  ;D

Looks like I will just have to keep searching, and hope that one day something turns up.

Thanks again

Yip

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Re: John HOADL(E)Y
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 23:18 BST (UK) »
Yip

Gougy mentioned that an Henry gave his birth place as East Chiltington

checked the 1841 for John, son of Henry; but although there was one entry for HOADLY and 5 entries for HOADLEY - non of them matched your criteria.

Sorry about that

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Re: John HOADL(E)Y
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 October 05 23:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks for checking that out Chris.

Very much appreciated  :)

Yip

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Re: John HOADL(E)Y
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 October 05 10:39 BST (UK) »
here's another Henry b. 1805, married c. 1835, could just about be John's father, but no sign of the elusive fella!!

1841 Census
Pick Pale Farm , Burnt Oak Rd., Crowborough

Henry Hoadley, M, Head, age 36, born Sussex   
Anne Hoadley, F, [Wife], age 33, born Sussex   
Susanna Hoadley, F, [Daughter], age 5, born Sussex   
Henry Hoadley, M, [Son], age 3, born Sussex   
Allis Hoadley, F, [Daughter], age 1, born Sussex      


This Henry's father was Henry too, b. abt 1781 Rotherfield married Hannah bc. 1785 in abt. 1804 Rotherfield  - check out Hoadleys, Hoadlys, Hoads, Hodes, etc. etc. at http://www.theweald.org/N10.asp?NId=149072

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Sussex:
Lishers of Sompting, Cunninghams of Houghton, Hammonds of Angmering, Humphrey, Hambleton, Ayling, Pope, Gent

London: Le Franc, Watson, Read

Cornwall: Phillips of St. Ives, Chappells of Penwith
Ireland: O'Connors of Co. Clare

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