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1851 & 1861 census look up for Newscastle please
« on: Saturday 16 February 08 01:56 GMT (UK) »

I am trying to locate the parents of Henry Robson who was born in approximately 1855 In Newcastle. He married in the March quarter of 1875 Gateshead, Durham to Isabella Foster, daughter of Alexander Foster and Mary. I have information on the family of this couple from the 1881, 1891 & 1901 census.

The closest  match I have found to Henry's parents is an entry in the IGI for a Henry Elmer Robson, baptised on 31/12/1854 at St John's Parish, Newcastle Upon Tyne (recorded as Henry Ann Robson on Free BMD and Henry Alma Robson in the Newcastle BMD index). Only his mother's name, Elizabeth, is recorded, which may indicate that his father has died only months earlier. This seems to be supported by two earlier baptism entries in the IGI for an Elizabeth Robson (baptised 19.10.1851 St John's Parish) and Philip Robson (baptised 18.2.1849 St John's Parish). Parents for these children are recorded as Philip Robson and Elizabeth.

Could someone please look up the family of Philip and Elizabeth Robson in the 1851 census for Newcastle please? I would also like the family located in the 1861 census, but I suspect at this time that Philp is dead and Elizabeth would be head of the household.

Thanks.
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Re: 1851 & 1861 census look up for Newscastle please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 February 08 08:48 GMT (UK) »

Hi  Smiley

The nearest I can find on the 1851 is this:

HO107/2404 Folio 488 Page 21
Westgate, Newcastle

Philip Robson, 39, traveller, b. Alston
Elizabeth, 38, b. Durham, Heworth
Isabella, 5, b. Newcastle
Philip, 2, b. Newcastle


I can't find a family that matches you description on the 1861. There's a Philip of the right age and birthplace as the brother living in Gorton, Manchester as a lodger and a number of Henry's in the Newcastle/Co Durham area but none with a mother Elizabeth, either alone or with a Philip and so far not even a remarried one.

I hope someone else can join in the search as I'm away for most of the day.

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Re: 1851 & 1861 census look up for Newscastle please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 February 08 09:05 GMT (UK) »

Do you have the marriage certificate as this would give information about his father and his occupation which would help in the search.

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Re: 1851 & 1861 census look up for Newscastle please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 February 08 09:48 GMT (UK) »



    Found this one on 1861 but parents are different

               1861 Heaton Northumberland

Joseph Robson head age 56 b Lanchester Durham occ farm bailiff 56 acre employing 2 labs
Elizabeth wife age 55 b Witton le Wear Durham
Henry H son age 6 b Newcastle
Elizabeth Ann granddaughter age 4 months  b Heaton
Jane E daughter in law age 21 b Newcastle
Robert son age 21 b Newcastle
Thomas C son age 19 b Newcastle occ clerk
Sarah E Plure servant age 15 b Gateshead Durham

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Re: 1851 & 1861 census look up for Newscastle please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 February 08 10:19 GMT (UK) »

Have we got 1871 for Henry? He married Isabella in Gateshead in 1875 and was a coal miner born Newcastle, so this looks like the most likely candidate:

1871 RG10/5052 fol.31 p.10
Blacken, Gateshead, Durham
ROBSON
Robert   head m 51 Mason  Northumberland Walker
Anna      wife   m 51                       "        Hexham
Joseph   son   s  27 Mason            "        Newcastle
Mary J    dau   s  23                        "             "
Henry    son    s  17 Miner              "             "   
Robert grandson  2                        "             "
Ellen         "  dau   1             Durham  Gateshead

I think as Gadget said, you need the marriage certificate to find Henry's father's name and occupation


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Re: 1851 & 1861 census look up for Newscastle please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 February 08 22:49 GMT (UK) »

Thanks everyone for your assistance. I will locate the marriage certificate and see if that helps.
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Re: 1851 & 1861 census look up for Newscastle please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 March 08 04:56 GMT (UK) »

We have obtained the marriage certificate for Henry Robson and Isabella Forster. The certficate shows that Henry's father is Robert Robson who married Anna and their children were on the 1871 census;
Joseph son age 27 a Mason, Northumberland Newcastle
Mary J dau age 23 s Northumberland Newcastle
Henry son age 17 s Miner Northumberland Newcastle
Robert grandson age 2 Northumberland Newcastle
Ellen granddau age 1  Durham Gateshead

Can someone please look this family up in the 1851 and 1861 census and provide as much information as possible, thanks.
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Re: 1851 & 1861 census look up for Newscastle please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 March 08 00:41 GMT (UK) »

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