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Dodds Sunderland
« on: Thursday 17 April 08 13:03 BST (UK) »

Trying to  find the family of Ann Dodds b. 1820  Sunderland, married Robert Ferens, 8 June 1835 Bishopwearmouth Sunderland. Robert and Ann according to 1861 cen lived at Long Row Fatfield. After their marriage i cant seem to find them or any children they may have had until later years as living in Fatfield which was the home place of my Ferens family. Would be nice to find my family of the Dodds side, which i dont have and the marriage certificate of robert and Ann doesnt give  any other info regarding their fathers name etc..

maybe someone out there has a Dodds/Ferens connection ......

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Re: Dodds Sunderland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 April 08 13:35 BST (UK) »

Sam-Ann
Please could you give the reference for the 1861 entry - I'm having difficulty finding it.
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Re: Dodds Sunderland
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 April 08 13:42 BST (UK) »

Hi Sam-ann,

                Is this Ann in 1841 in Houghton le Spring (name spelt different)
                    HO107/ 312/ Book 19/ Folio 47/ Page 20

Robert Ferrens age 25
Ann age 20
Mary age 5

Address Painshaw Straiths, Houghton Le Spring, Painshaw


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Re: Dodds Sunderland
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 April 08 13:48 BST (UK) »

Hi Jennifer,

               I couldnt find them in 1861 either. Tried all spellings but no luck.  Huh

   Only one is what i posted but not sure if this is right.

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Re: Dodds Sunderland
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 April 08 14:10 BST (UK) »

Jennifer the 1861 census is for Long Row Fatfield, the name is spelt as Ferrins. Robert Ferrins and Ann she is shown as 41 born Sunderland and Jane Ann Black or Slack aged 5 grand daughter. robert and Ann are living next door to Robert's father, another Robert Ferens. Its the Dodds side of things i cant get any way ahead with sadly....1871 census of the same place show's Robert as being a widower..no Ann.


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Re: Dodds Sunderland
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 April 08 14:17 BST (UK) »

I did find a marriage of a Margaret Jane Ferens daug of Robert Ferens of Fatfield, Labourer, 25 Apr 1886 in the parish of Fatfield. Now could this be a child of Robert and Ann?According to Margarets age on the marr cert she was 20 so making her born 1846 that date would fit according to Robert/Ann's marriage date.I dont have any children other than the Mary Jennifer has just found for me....

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 April 08 14:24 BST (UK) »

Got them.

jamajo, the reference is RG9/ 3762/Folio 4/ Page 2/schedule 11

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 April 08 14:34 BST (UK) »



   Well done Jennifer. Thanks

   Is the granddaughters parents known by you Sam-Ann. ?

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Re: Dodds Sunderland
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 April 08 14:41 BST (UK) »

Here they are in 1851 (under Hrenss  Grin)

HO 107/ 2393/ Folio 60/ Page28/ Schedule113
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Robert Ferens, head, m, 38, Lab, Durham, Painshaw Staith
Ann do, wife, m, 30, do Sunderland
Mary Jane do, daur, 15, do Painshaw Staith.

Fits nicely with the family jamajo found in 1841 census.

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Re: Dodds Sunderland
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 April 08 15:05 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue,
I dont know the parents of Ann Dodds at all, this is what i would love to try and find out because after Ann dodds i have no other Dodds family......plenty of the Ferens side.....no Dodds after Ann.
I also couldnt find any children of Robert and Ann but thanks to the wonderful help here i have a child Mary now.
Would be so good to find Ann's family although it is difficult..

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Re: Dodds Sunderland
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 17 April 08 15:23 BST (UK) »

From Penshaw baptismal record:

Mary Jane Ferins, born 5 June 1836, baptised 3 July 1836 daughter of Robert Ferins, Miller, Penshaw Staiths and Ann Dodds.

No other children baptised up to 1839.

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Re: Dodds Sunderland
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 April 08 15:45 BST (UK) »

Hi Janis,
thank you so much for your help, so Mary Jane was b 1836 and the only other possibly child i can associate with robert/Ann is this Margaret Jane b.1846, however i dont know where....ten year gap for children. I think by this time they were living at Fatfield/Harraton..

Thank you Janis for your help


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Re: Dodds Sunderland
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 April 08 15:58 BST (UK) »

I looked in Chester le Street St Mary and St Cuthbert up to 1869 no Ferrins/Ferren etc baptisms.

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Re: Dodds Sunderland
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 April 08 16:50 BST (UK) »

Hi Janis,
In the St Mary St Cuthbert  parish reg there are plenty of FERENS spelt the correct way for Roberts fathers family but as you say none for Robert and Ann, its strange because i cant find the bap of this Margaret Jane b 1846 daug of Robert and Ann Ferens Undecided . Robert was a miller in 1836, he bought the Gaunless Mills in Bishop Auckland i wonder if they could have been living there?  From 1836 to 1846 no children and none after that come to think of it!
Got me beat...

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Re: Dodds Sunderland
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 17 April 08 17:40 BST (UK) »

There is a James Ferrens baptism 16 April 1826 in Chester le Street  son of Robert and Ann that is the only Ferrens from 1813-1839.  And quite a few years before the marriage so maybe a different Robert and Ann than yours. None 1840-1849.

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