tedscout's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In

[Tephra]

Welcome to this weeks Scavenger Hunt and it's a very interesting one.   Have fun with it.

Good Luck and Good Hunting

Barbara.

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Before you start, I have to tell you tedscout has a broken wrist, so replying will be difficult.  Please have patience when asking questions.   Thanks.     

Thomas Oldham

I hope you can help me find Thomas Oldham. He is the father of David Oldham who immigrated to Australia.

David died in Nhill, Victoria Australia on 6 September 1896.

On his death certificate
Father is listed as Thomas Oldham, Labourer
Mother’s name Unknown
Informant was his son Thomas John Oldham

Where born: Wales
How long in Australia: Perth 16 years, Victoria 20 years

David arrived in South Australia on 10 June 1856 on the ship “Golelza”

I have found him on the 1841 and 1851 British census

1841 he is living in Old Brickyard Llanelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales.

People in the household are:
John Bowen (miss transcribed on A****y as Brown), Mason 50
Mary Bowen, 35
John Ouldham, 11
Thomas Ouldham, 10
William Ouldham, 7
David Ouldham, 5
Anthony Ouldham, 4

1851 he is living in Eberneyzer Street, Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales.

People in the household are:
Mary Bowen, 40, Widow, Housekeeper
William Oldham, Son, 18, Mason
David Oldham, Son, 17, Labourer
Ay Oldham, Son, 14,
James Bowen, 9
Richard Bowen, 7
Henry Bowen, 5
Morgan Thomas, 35, Visitor, unmarried, Labourer

This census has been miss transcribed as place of birth for some of them. It is listed as Llanelly Carlow Ireland, but if you look at the original it is Llanelly, Wales.

I then went looking for Mary and John Bowen’s marriage and found it in the Free BMD. Mary Oldham married John Bowen in 2nd Quarter 1841.

I presumed from this that Thomas Oldham died somewhere between 1837 (Anthony’s birth date) and 1841 (census and 2nd marriage date), but I cannot find a death for him.

I found a marriage for a Mary David and a Thomas Oldham in the Pallot’s Marriage Index. They married in 1829 in Llanelly.


So apart from his name being on David’s death certificate and the marriage of Mary David and Thomas Oldham in the Pallot’s marriage index, I cannot find any other reference of him.

Please help me find what happened to Thomas.

Thank you in advance

Trisha

PS I am in Australia so if sometimes I don’t answer your questions straight away it is because I am sleeping.

[jaywit]

I see there is a lot of sumbitted 'information' on Family Search. I also see his brother Thomas stayed in Wales ( on 1881 census) Have you followed that branch of the family through?

[regross]

The surname should be easier to research than mt Davis/DAvies but you will need to look at all possible spelling variations as you have already dicoverd they seem to make individuals become invisible.

regards

Robyn

[tedscout]

yes jaywit, ive followed all family members forward and had some contact with current rellies. no one knows what happened to thiomas

sorry about crap typing, one hand and thats the wrong hand

thankjs 4 help cheers ted

[jaywit]

No probs. Ancestry is down at the moment and seeing as I know very little about Wales......
Some of the 'information' on family search very garbled about places does show some Nottinghamshire connection. If you ever prove that then I can help on that county.

[tedscout]

the family "story" is that he is connected to the Oldhams from Oldham and a "cousin" was a Kings guard at first Parliament in Australia. Trying to prove this too

so does this add up with the nottingham link?


  Ted

[jaywit]

No it doesn't Oldham the town is in Lancashire (  north of England ) Nottinghamshire is in the Midlands. I've just had a look on FreeREG as there are a few Nottinghamshire parishes on there. Loads of Oldhams on there but wether someone has just grabbed a Nottinghamshire name and put it in with The Welsh Oldhams I don't know.
The only possible connection could be the 2 main industries in Nottingham area around that time coal mining and framework knitting. I don't know wether there was any migration to Wales though.

[tedscout]

As Oldham is so English as a name i thought it would be easy 2 find Thomas. Havent come across Nottinghanshire at all in research.

some1 who helped me a while ago found a possible in cheshire but couldnt prove it and death was after mary remarried.

thanks 4 ur help, Ted

[jaywit]

This gives some history of Nottinghamshire.
http://www.nottsheritagegateway.org.uk/themes/industry.htm
If you click on themes at the top there is a section on coal mining, but of course we have no proof your Oldham's came from there.