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BevL's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« on: Tuesday 25 January 11 09:22 GMT (UK) »


Welcome to this weeks Scavenger Hunt and Bev is ready to tear her hair out....... I'm sure you'll be able to avert a catastrophe      ;D

Good Luck and Good Hunting

Barbara

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I am trying to find the parents of my g-g-grandfather Thomas Roper born 1810 Irvinestown, Fermanagh. 
My g-g-grandfather married Jane/Jean Adam in 1835 in Paisley, Scotland and he is shown on the 1841 census with wife and family.
He arrived Victoria on the Andromache in 1848 and died in Victoria in 1885.

His parents - unknown

Grandparents (Trotter)
David Trotter & Catherine Allen maried 1789 in Airth, Scotland (not confirmed) taken from LDS site.

I have a birth for Catherine in Airth (not confirmed) but can find nothing for David, except the marriage.  As for the rest of their family they have never been born, married or died!  The birthdates for the family listed below are approximate for the poll and except for Catherine (and George once) the names listed below have been used frequently throughout the years by the Ropers.  Other names used frequently were Agnes, Mary and Robert.

1821 census - Irvinestown, Fermanagh (Derryvollin)
David Trotter (72) Farmer, 10 acres - born 1749
Catherine (59) wife - born 28/9/1760
George (29) son - born 1792
William (16) son - born 1805
Alexander (13) - son born 1808
Catherine (22) - daughter born 1799
Thomas Roper (11) - grandson - born 1810

There is also a 1788 Poll of Electors which shows a David Trotter, Irvinestown and a lot of other Trotters in other places in Fermanagh, but other than these two I cannot find any census information for any of them in Ireland or Scotland.

For my g-g-grandfather to have the surname Roper, I would presume a Trotter daughter gave birth to him, so there must be other children that were not on the 1821 census - and where were they?
I wonder if David had been married and perhaps widowed before his marriage to Catherine, but even so there are a lot of years in between children named in the above census and I also wonder if the other two born 1805 and 1808 were their children, as Catherine was getting quite old when they were born and parents sometimes made out their grandchildren were theirs for propriety sake. There again this is only supposition on my part. 

In the 1821 census there was a William Trotter (32) from Irvinestown so perhaps he is David's by a prior marriage.

The above is all the information I have as Thomas' death certificate shows  'not known' under parents names.

Please help me..
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Re: BevL's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 January 11 13:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I'm here ...reading through info.

deb :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 January 11 13:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bev

Do you have William Roper's marriage cert?

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 January 11 14:35 GMT (UK) »
I have asked another RCer to pop in ...hopefully he can help us!

deb  :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: BevL's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 January 11 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bev,below is the entry for the marriage in the parish register,no parents mentioned I am afraid but from experience that's not unusual.Depends on the parish,I've been lucky to find both parents or at least the father but mostly just the couple getting married.Do you know any of Thomas Roper's siblings as perhaps we can shuffle sideways and locate the parents that way.
There could be other children between George and William but being between 16 and 29 could easily have left home.

Good evening Deb,sorry was so long,got called out.

George.
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 January 11 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi George

Thanks for popping in!

deb :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 January 11 18:07 GMT (UK) »
How do we know the Trotters are the grandparents,just wondering as we don't know his parents apart from the father must be a Roper.Just to put me in the picture.

George.
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 25 January 11 18:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi George

This is from Bev's first post above:

1821 census - Irvinestown, Fermanagh (Derryvollin)
David Trotter (72) Farmer, 10 acres - born 1749
Catherine (59) wife - born 28/9/1760

George (29) son - born 1792
William (16) son - born 1805
Alexander (13) - son born 1808
Catherine (22) - daughter born 1799
Thomas Roper (11) - grandson - born 1810


deb :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 25 January 11 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Ah doh,sorry been a long day,bear with me,I have a cup of tea now.So a Trotter daughter not on this census married a Roper in Ireland.

By the way I don't know if you remember but mt GGG grandfather's daughter married a George Trotter,the one who was on the census as a monster ;D

Sorry Bev digressing here,back to the search.

George.
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth