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Sharman 1880s marriage at Shillington? (step-father Simkins)
« on: Thursday 22 September 11 07:22 BST (UK) »
I donít know what archives exist in Bedfordshire, but here goes ....
Iím trying to find the marriage of Mary Ann Sharman (born 1856) Ė most likely in Shillington in the 1880s. FreeBMD gives more than one possibility in Ampthill district. MAS was with her stepfather, Samuel David Simkins and her mother, also Mary Ann, in Shillington in 1881. However, I canít find her thereafter. All details from the register entry could well be useful.†
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Re: Sharman 1880s marriage at Shillington? (step-father Simkins)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 September 11 19:52 BST (UK) »

Did not take place in Shillington, went thru the R/R today.

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Re: Sharman 1880s marriage at Shillington? (step-father Simkins)
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 September 11 19:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Sherlock...
 How does this sit with any other info you may have on the family.
 Is her mother Mary Simkins....nee March....and was she previously married to Charles Sharman?
 If so thats where the middle name comes from for the son of Samuel Simkins & Mary ..Frederick March Simkins.
 Now checking the Bedfordshire marriages I can I think now right them all off as ..
 1881 marriage was Houghton Conquest Mary Sharman age 30
 † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † James Ingram age 31 married 2 may 1881
 1883 Holy Trinity Bedford Mary Ann Sharman age 23 father William
 † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † Charles Wright age 24 father William
 1886 Cranfield Mary Ann Sharman age 21 father James
 † † † † † † † † † † † † † † William Frederick White 21 father George
 1887 Clophill Mary Sharman age 23 father Joseph
 † † † † † † † † † † †Frank Peat age 20 father Francis.
 † I have some other bits for you to look at so will add another post.
 † Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Sharman 1880s marriage at Shillington? (step-father Simkins)
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 September 11 20:27 BST (UK) »


  Ok ....  Mary Ann  Simkins gives dob as Swinstead Linc @ 1837.
             Samuel David Simkins married a Mary Ann Sharman in Kensington in 1872.
          A Mary Ann March married a Charles Sharman in Bourn in 1854.
               A Mary Ann March was born @ 1837 in  Swinstead father William.
1861 census shows...
                   William March hd 54 wid farmer butcher employing 2 men 2 boys Swinstead
                    John             son un 27
                     Eliza           dau u 23
                    William          son un 20
                     Edward         son u 18
                    Elizabeth        dau u 16
                  MARY ANN SHARMAN G/DAU U 4 LONDON.
  RG9/2315 F 29 P10.
 OK next I looked at all the Mary/ Mary Ann's living in Shillington in 1891 .One that stood out claims born in Islington in 1858 and was named Mary Ann Ruffell. Here is the family in 1891...
    George H Ruffell hd m 35 farmer                          Shillington
    Mary Ann Ruffell wi m 35                                                       Islington
   Ernest J             son u 2                                        Shillington
   RG12/1259 F 31 P14.
  Looking closer I found this....
  14 Dec 1887  George Henry Ruffell 32 bach farmer St Mary Bryanston Sq father Henry Ruffell farmer
                  Mary Ann Sharman 30 spin St Mary Bryanston Sq father Charles Sharman (deceased) farmer.
  witnesses  William March        Minnie Mary Ruffell.
     St Marys              Marylebone.
 So I think that could be your girl?
  Anyone else see where I am going with this one ?

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Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Sharman 1880s marriage at Shillington? (step-father Simkins)
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 September 11 20:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you. This is brilliant. We/you are on to something here. I had suspected that her father was dead, but hadn't proved it. I'll print this out tonight and take it with me tomorrow to study. I'm most grateful ... indeed, I'm not just grateful - I'm delighted with what you've discovered. I'd never have found her myself - too many preconceptions! Thanks again.
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Re: Sharman 1880s marriage at Shillington? (step-father Simkins)
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 September 11 21:30 BST (UK) »


  Hi Sherlock ...

 let me know how you get on .
 I think this is Charles Sharman in 1851 living in Swinstead Linc.

  Swinstead Lodge   Jane Sharman hd w 60 farmer 230 acs  North Wytham Lincs
                             Thomas          son u 30      farmer son Swinstead
                              Charles         son u 18      farmers son Swinstead
  HO107/2095 F 98 PAGE26.
 It does all seem to fit together with a March cousin on her marriage cert.

  Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Sharman 1880s marriage at Shillington? (step-father Simkins)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 September 11 10:09 BST (UK) »
Yes, this all makes sense. Looking at FreeBMD, I suspect that George Ruffell's mother was Emma Simkins, and that he was born with the name Simkins two years before Emma married. That makes it likely that Emma was either sister or cousin to Samuel Simkins. I'll write up what I've got so far, and post it as a follow-up to this message. Thanks again.
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Charles Sharman (born 1832) - amended 13.11.2011
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 September 11 10:20 BST (UK) »
My current section on Charles can be found here:
http://homepages.tesco.net/~jksharman/sharmanfamhist_charles1832.html 
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