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« on: Saturday 23 July 05 13:10 BST (UK) »
I recently ordered "Watchmakers & Clockmakers of the World" Vol 2 by Brian Loomes, from the library at a cost of £3.80.  I guess I was hoping for some information; but really all it is, is a list.  Disappointed to say the least; yes my ancestors are there, but only names and dates, not even their relationship to one another.  I know more than this already.  I was looking for proof of a clock and watch making dynasty.

Still if any rootschatter out there thinks their ancestor might be included in this volume, I'll do a look up for you.  You might be lucky some entries have a little more info attached, such as apprentiship. This weekend only, for Tuesday, I am off on my hols and book is going back to the library.

I've got Samuel Maddock Over Budworth (Cheshire) 1834. W  (W stands for watchmaker,  1834 presumably is the year he started in business
Charles Maddock Over 1865 - 78 ( Again presumably his business years as he was born in 1822.  Except for 1881 Census has him still listed as a watchmaker in 1881.)

And it does not clear up the matter of George Maddock 1848 Middlewich, who I also believe is connected to my Maddock watchmakers, but I don't know how.  As Walter born 1841 son of a George Madddock who is a watchmaker is at Samuel Maddock's house on census night in 1841.  I'll have to come at that one from another direction.

 

Greenwich, London-BEARMAN/JOHNSON/GREENE Barking Essex-BEARMAN
Manchester- NEWALL/Newell or variants, LOLLEY/Lolly,WALL
Shropshire- WALL
Cheshire- MADDOCK/CARTER/PERCIVAL
Windsor, Berkshire - MILES
Buckinghamshire - MILES
Monmouthshire - JAMES & MORRIS
Herefordshire- FLEET
Yorkshire- SHIPLEY & GRAY
Sussex- EDWARDS & KNIGHT
Wiltshire/Hampshire-WATERS
Wolverhampton area Staffordshire- ASTON
Staffordshire- LOLLEY

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Re: Watch & Clock Maker lookup offer this wkend let my disappointment be useful
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 July 05 15:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Siouxzie

would you mind looking for the name of Charles Leaver in both Birmingham and Sheffield please
thank you
steve
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 July 05 16:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Steve;
These are the two entries under Leaver

Leaver & Breeze, London 1875
Charles, Birmingham, 1880


Hope this helps,
Suzanne
Greenwich, London-BEARMAN/JOHNSON/GREENE Barking Essex-BEARMAN
Manchester- NEWALL/Newell or variants, LOLLEY/Lolly,WALL
Shropshire- WALL
Cheshire- MADDOCK/CARTER/PERCIVAL
Windsor, Berkshire - MILES
Buckinghamshire - MILES
Monmouthshire - JAMES & MORRIS
Herefordshire- FLEET
Yorkshire- SHIPLEY & GRAY
Sussex- EDWARDS & KNIGHT
Wiltshire/Hampshire-WATERS
Wolverhampton area Staffordshire- ASTON
Staffordshire- LOLLEY

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 July 05 16:32 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much and have a nice holiday

steve
Miller Leaver Banks Littlewood Hinks Cook Hammonds Henry Fowler Benson Barton Rainforth Stennett Wilks


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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 July 05 04:53 BST (UK) »
Hello Suzanne,

There are DALTON clockmakers from Church Lawford in Warwickshire on my children's paternal line.

A website says:
" SAMUEL DALTON of RUGBY ~ circa 1800 Samuel Dalton is recorded in McKennas Watch & Clockmakers of Warwickshire as working in Rugby between 1786-1810. Two other Daltons, possibly related, are also recorded working nearby in Church Lawford ~ Daniel Snr. 1722-93 and Daniel Jnr. 1793-1801. Both repaired and maintained the clock at Leamington Hastings church."

I once had an email from someone who owns a clock "made by Daniel Dalton of Church Lawford who was baptised 14 Nov 1736 and buried in Church Lawford in Feb 10 1793. He was a clockmaker active from 1759. ...  There is another example of his clocks in Warwick Museum."
Daniel (bap 1736- d 1793) was a 1st cousin of my children's 4ggfather.

If there is any information in the book on the DALTON clockmakers of Warwickshire, I would appreciate a lookup.

Many thanks,

JAP

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 July 05 11:01 BST (UK) »
Hi JAP
sorry there isn't a mention of them in this particular volume. but maybe they are mentioned in volume one.  Volume one was written by G.H. Baillie and volume two is a supplement to it and does not repeat any clockmaker that was detailed in volume one unless new facts had been found.

The only Dalton's in this volume are in; Hartlepool, York, Dudley and Birmingham.  The last two appearing to be the same person, W.H. Dudley 1868 and William Howard Birmingham 1880.

It is exciting, that you've got  an example of a clock in a museum.  I came across an article on the web about a Maddock clock being auctioned, the journalist writing the piece had asked if anyone had conections to the family to contact him, unfortunately it was a couple of years too late by the time I found it. 
Greenwich, London-BEARMAN/JOHNSON/GREENE Barking Essex-BEARMAN
Manchester- NEWALL/Newell or variants, LOLLEY/Lolly,WALL
Shropshire- WALL
Cheshire- MADDOCK/CARTER/PERCIVAL
Windsor, Berkshire - MILES
Buckinghamshire - MILES
Monmouthshire - JAMES & MORRIS
Herefordshire- FLEET
Yorkshire- SHIPLEY & GRAY
Sussex- EDWARDS & KNIGHT
Wiltshire/Hampshire-WATERS
Wolverhampton area Staffordshire- ASTON
Staffordshire- LOLLEY

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 24 July 05 11:24 BST (UK) »
Hi, Siouxsie,
This is very kind of you! - I have a clock and watch maker in my family called Thomas GURNER, who plied his trade in the Ickleton and Sawston area of S. Cambs between the 1860's and 1896, when he died.  He may also have had associations with Saffron Walden, just across the county border in Essex.
Does he get a mention in your book...?
Keith

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 July 05 14:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Keith,

Yes he is there - like my lot just the bare -  name place date

Gurner Thomas, Ickleton (Cambridgeshire). 1875

Greenwich, London-BEARMAN/JOHNSON/GREENE Barking Essex-BEARMAN
Manchester- NEWALL/Newell or variants, LOLLEY/Lolly,WALL
Shropshire- WALL
Cheshire- MADDOCK/CARTER/PERCIVAL
Windsor, Berkshire - MILES
Buckinghamshire - MILES
Monmouthshire - JAMES & MORRIS
Herefordshire- FLEET
Yorkshire- SHIPLEY & GRAY
Sussex- EDWARDS & KNIGHT
Wiltshire/Hampshire-WATERS
Wolverhampton area Staffordshire- ASTON
Staffordshire- LOLLEY

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Re: Watch & Clock Maker lookup offer this wkend let my disappointment be useful
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 July 05 14:15 BST (UK) »
Hello Siouxzie

Please would you look up Joseph HEAPY prob Staffs but maybe Cheshire.
Around 1810-40 as he died in 41 as did his wife,leaving loads of young children :(
But everyone's mariage cert has dad down as a watchmaker.

Thanks for your help and kind offer.

All the best

Carol
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