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Re: Inventing the Colemans: 1891 Henry Frederick COL(E)MAN
« Reply #9 on: Friday 16 September 05 18:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie,

thanks for that idea.

I been to try it out: it seems either swedish, or a PC game !

I also tried Kalnung and Kallnung again, to see if there was anything new, and got 2 hits  :)  :)  :)

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Re: Inventing the Colemans: 1891 Henry Frederick COL(E)MAN
« Reply #10 on: Friday 16 September 05 18:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Mary,

On the census day, 5 April 1891, Dora (9 days old), and her mother Rose Coleman, were at Queen Ch. Hospital in Marylebone.

The birth cert was issued on the 4th April, in Marylebone, so presumably the birth was registered at the hospital, and the informant, the mother Rose Elvina Coleman gave her home address, 97 Southam Street, Kensington

As for the Lavatory attendant, that was what my Dad told me, before I found H.F. on the 1901 as Park keeper. He (my Dad) used to visit him in his little hut, and his G-dad would play the zither and sing to him !
(at that time I didn't even know Rose's name so it was only through the names Henry and John, the occupation Park keeper, and mother's place of birth in Cambridge that I was able to recognise the family, which lead me to ask my Dad about Dora.)

The "Caret." is in a different handwriting and looks like it was added later.

Thanks again,
Bob
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Re: Inventing the Colemans: 1891 Henry Frederick COL(E)MAN
« Reply #11 on: Friday 16 September 05 19:03 BST (UK) »
the mother Rose Elvina Coleman gave her home address, 97 Southam Street, Kensington

Seems like this is the address to find, I'll keep looking although not all the scans are proper enumerators district lists, hope the one with Southam Street on it is.  With I knew London better  ??? ??? ??? ???

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"Caret." is in a different handwriting and looks like it was added later.
  I've been told that somebody in the nature of a supervisor went over the census lists later and maybe made some clarifying entries, I would suspect this "Caret" is just that and still might mean Caretaker.

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Re: Inventing the Colemans: 1891 Henry Frederick COL(E)MAN
« Reply #12 on: Friday 16 September 05 19:14 BST (UK) »
Gosh what a thread, lavvys and rabbits and a George Michael association to boot, what an exciting family!

On a duller note Bob, if he was indeed born in Stepney have you tried the records of the German Lutheran Church in Alie Street?  I've been told that it was the hub of the Stepney German families and (like the Swedish Church in Princes Square for the Swedes) acted as a registration-cum-home-from-home for lots of newly arrived Germans.  If he was a merchant seaman the location would certainly make sense.

It's not far from me and I keep meaning to go and look at the records (I don't think they're all deposited with the LMA) for my German lot but I'm a bit of a lazy so-and-so sometimes.

When I go, happy to look up your chap as well if you haven't already.

Jonathan  :)
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Re: Inventing the Colemans: 1891 Henry Frederick COL(E)MAN
« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 September 05 19:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Jonathan,

thanks for that idea !

I'll try he LMA and see if I can find out anything online. If not, 'll get back to you.

Bob

ps:  exciting ??  One story my Dad tells me is that his brother threw an axe at him (in other stories he merely brandishes a kitchen knife !), which is why they haven't spoken since !!
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Re: Inventing the Colemans: 1891 Henry Frederick COL(E)MAN
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 September 05 19:34 BST (UK) »
Bob

Outrageous suggestion, but...

Is Unc still alive? (Daughter is suggesting he may have met a violent end , but disregarding that...  ;D)

Quickest route is always via living rellies.  Are you bold enough?

(Now you are going to tellme you don't know where he is)

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Inventing the Colemans: 1891 Henry Frederick COL(E)MAN
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 September 05 19:36 BST (UK) »



Here's a picture of Southam Street in 1950's - looks like it's residential to me !! :P

http://www.vam.ac.uk/vastatic/microsites/photography/magnify.php?imageid=im00322

Unless it was a Doctor's establishment in the old days .... !

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Re: Inventing the Colemans: 1891 Henry Frederick COL(E)MAN
« Reply #16 on: Friday 16 September 05 19:39 BST (UK) »
Guess what I found ??
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« Reply #17 on: Friday 16 September 05 19:39 BST (UK) »
Guess WHO I found ??
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