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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Huntingdonshire => Topic started by: nigels on Wednesday 21 December 05 22:09 GMT (UK)
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Looking for death details on Richard Seamark who died in 1812, Huntingdonshire. I believe he may be on some Hunts Burial index
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I apply the baseball rule. Three strikes and you're out. Those who do look ups sometimes like to know if the time they spend is of any use. Just an acknowledgement is all that's needed. See my various unanswered 1841 lookups on the Beds board.
Third strike
NBI
Burial 6 November 1812 Richard Seamark age 59 at Pidley cum Fenton
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thanks I have only just started to look at the results posted.
The Pidley Seamark is excellent as I have been looking for this for 2+ years. Intrestingly I looked at the Pidley cum Fenton reg with the Hunts Records office staff and he was not in the Parish reg deaths!! or perhaps we both had a bad day.
Proverbs I was hoping to find William in the 1841 as not of the county.
thanks again, I can now start looking at my Hunts/Northants data for Richard.
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If you went through the Pidley register you probably picked up his second marriage, but in case you were having a very bad day! Hunts Marriage Index has the following:
1809 Pidley cum Fenton Richard Seamark widower marr Susan Stacey widow
1818 Pidley cum Fenton Susan Seamark widow marr William Thomson of Bluntisham
These were the only Seamark marriages in Hunts 1701-1837, so presumably his first marriage was out of county.
The NBI also has in Pidley Susanna Seamark age 7 on 11 July 1819 (but no first wife)
I imagine that William Proverbs was probably out of county. Beds is very well covered on the IGI, not far short of 100% pre 1812, and he, his children, and his wife are the only Proverbs entries. Unfortunately they married just before the start of civil registration at which time you would have got his father's name. Why is it that people always die just before a census, or marry just before civil registration?
You seem to specialise in out of county people!
Happy Christmas
David
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yes I had the Pidley info except death.. I even went through the Militia records incase he did not return from the Nap' Wars.
My guess is that Richard is from Northants/Leic. Northants is a very strong Seamark stronghold. What I need to find is xxxxx Seamark Wife of Richard burried pre 1809.
Lucky for me Semark/seamark are dervied from either Northants/Rutland/Leic or Kent. The historic Semark line merged into the Russell line, 1st Duke of Bedford.
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looking at my notes the best chance I have is Richard's first wife being called Ann Seamark/Semark [nee Brunster]. Does Ann appear on the NBI ?
Thanks nigel
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Hi Nigel
I saw that marriage on the IGI, and looked for Ann in Northants on the NBI, but came up with nothing I'm afraid, although Winwick is not a parish that's covered. Northants coverage generally is very patchy pre 1813. The other parish that's mentioned on the IGI, Yelvertoft, doesn't start until 1813 on the NBI. The fact that the IGI entry is a member submission always worries me, and this suspicion is compounded by the fact that there are two Winwicks in Northants - one is a few miles east of Rugby, the other is now in Hunts. The one now in Hunts has its records at Huntingdon, and marriages on the Hunts Marriage Index, and the marriage doesn't appear.
But there are baptism entries on the IGI, including a controlled extract (you may gather that I am not a fan of member submissions!) of offspring of Richard and Ann in parishes close to the Rugby Winwick, so I assume it's that Winwick that the marriage took place. But it's a long way from Pidley! Various member submissions have marriages of offspring of Richard and Ann in Yelvertoft, which is a bit odd if Richard had moved to Pidley in 1809.
Curiouser and curiouser!
Regards
David
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I expect Richard will remain a mystery, all the apprentice papers and births points a "Richard" Seamark family back to Elkington via Yelvertoft and Winwick.
The last Yelvertoft/Elk/Win firm sighting of Richard and Ann was a burial of a daughter in 1806. Thus 1809 Pidley is not unreasonable except the distance makes it hard to accept and no Ann death.
The 1814 Richard Seamark/Irons at Yelv marraige cannot be the Richard I am looking for as he was released from an apprentice to marry Miss Irons. This Richard was born 1795 in Elkington based on the apprentice papers perhaps kin of Richard and Ann B..
I expect Richard remains a mystery but at least I have a rough date of birth for Richard of Pidley.