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Title: Can anyone help with my quest?
Post by: KPM on Thursday 24 July 08 20:45 BST (UK)
Hi

I have some very tantalising snippets of information but nothing is coming together at the moment and I'm hoping someone is able to help me.

My great x 4 Grandmother was Sophia Eastted.  I believe she was born in 1783 (she died in 1867 aged 84)

The only census of any help to me is the 1851 one.  This states that she was born in Greenwich but I'm not sure how accurate this is as she was also living in Greenwich at the time.  Unfortunately by 1861 she was living in Woolwich and that census is missing I've been told.

What I would really like to do is find out who her parents were, but I am also trying to find a link to her and Sarah Eastted (born c1772)  Sarah married Thomas Anthony and I have been told that their daughter's grandmother (so could be either Sarah or Thomas' mother) was the sister of Thomas Guy - founder of Guys hospital.  This is really fascinating but I don't want to get all excited about this only to find out that there is no family connection :D

However if there is a connection, it may be that my gr 4 grandmother was also related to Emma Elizabeth Eastted who was the mother of a peruvian diplomat!!

Is anyone able to help me confirm whether Sarah and Sophia are sisters so I can really start digging away at this information

Thank you for taking the time to read this long post :D

KPM
Title: Re: Can anyone help with my quest?
Post by: celia on Monday 28 July 08 23:44 BST (UK)
Is this marriage any connection

Sophia Eastted Spouse John Dorbon
Marriage 23rd september 1806
Old Church St Pancras

Celia
Title: Re: Can anyone help with my quest?
Post by: celia on Tuesday 29 July 08 00:05 BST (UK)
Have you got the marriage for Sarah and Thomas in 1792?
I cant find their births

Celia
Title: Re: Can anyone help with my quest?
Post by: celia on Tuesday 29 July 08 00:28 BST (UK)
Hi
Title: Re: Can anyone help with my quest?
Post by: KPM on Tuesday 29 July 08 15:48 BST (UK)
Hi Celia

Thanks for you reply.

The marriage of Sophia Eastted and John Dorbon is where it all started when I began researching the Dorbon line - my Grandfather's maternal line.

I did find the marriage for Sarah and John as well as the birth of Emma but I can't tie it all in.  I believe Sophia and Sarah could be sisters.  I know they are definitely connected some how as I found a census entry for one of the grandchildren of Sarah and Thomas living with the Dorbon family and recorded as a cousin - but I still cant find the connection.

I need to trace the elusive baptism records for both Sophia and Sarah I think before I can go any further - you'd think with an unusual name such as this that it wouldnt be such a mammoth task! :D

Thank you once again for your help

Anne-Marie


Title: Re: Can anyone help with my quest?
Post by: celia on Tuesday 29 July 08 16:45 BST (UK)
Anne
Its a mystery isn't it :) I am going to delete the F.S info above i have just found out i might be in trouble for being lazy and not copying it ::)

Celia
Title: Re: Can anyone help with my quest?
Post by: Valda on Tuesday 29 July 08 17:15 BST (UK)
William Eastted married to Harriet on the 1861 census was in Willesden. Harriet and her daughter Elizabeth Emma were in Great Malvern Worcestershire on the 1851 census. William gave his birthplace on the 1861 census as East Wellow Hampshire circa 1807.
He was baptised there as William Easted 23rd July 1806 the son of John and Mary. Two other older siblings Elizabeth and John were also baptised in East Wellow - the surname was consistently spelt as Easted on these baptisms, so the extra t may have arrived later for William and his family. Easted seems the more common spelling.
William and Harriett were a wealthy couple - landowners and wine merchants. Brother John on the 1861 census was in Portchester Hampshire a farmer of 312 acres. His unmarried sister was living with his family - the surname was spelt as Easted.

A possible marriage for William and Harriett

WILLIAM EASTED  
HARRIET ALCOCK  
Marriage:  10 JUN 1835   Saint Giles, Camberwell, Surrey
 

Thomas Guy's dates are 1644/5-1724

His younger and only sister Ann married 16th November 1667 in Tamworth Warwickshire John Varnam, so you would expect any children Ann had, would have been born in the C17th not the C18th.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/greenhall/tht/history/Guy.htm

However Thomas Anthony married Sarah Eastted at the end of the C18th in 1792 so the dates for a direct connection to Ann Varnam of mother to either Sarah or Thomas don't add up taking about 25 years to roughly represent a generation.
  
THOMAS ANTHONY
SARAH EASTTED  
Marriage:  08 APR 1792   Saint Paul, Deptford, Kent

Have you been able to find Sarah on a census?

HENRY ANTHONY
Christening:  18 MAR 1801   St Mary, Rotherhithe, London
Death:  08 JUN 1801    
Father:  THOS. ANTHONY  
Mother:  SARAH  

HENRY EASTTED ANTHONY  
Christening:  05 MAY 1802   St Mary, Rotherhithe, London
Age at Christening:  1    
Father:  THOMAS ANTHONY  
Mother:  SARAH  

Henry was the father of Robert Anthony, the Anthony cousin with the Dorbins on the 1871 census. Henry on the 1861 census was a pork butcher. He is the only 'Anthony' born Rotherhithe showing on censuses.

JOHN BATELY ANTHONY
Christening:  16 SEP 1804   St Mary, Rotherhithe, London
Age at Christening:  1    
Father:  THOMAS ANTHONY  
Mother:  SARAH  

JOSEPH JAMES ANTHONY
Christening:  06 MAR 1807   St Mary, Rotherhithe, London
Age at Christening:  1    
Father:  THOMAS ANTHONY  
Mother:  SARAH    

Is Bately used as a middle name significant? Did it occur in the Dorbin family as well?


HENRY EASTED ANTHONY
AMELIA JARVIS
Marriage:  29 JUN 1828   Saint Marylebone, London
 

  
Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Can anyone help with my quest?
Post by: Valda on Tuesday 29 July 08 18:07 BST (UK)
This may be a red herring but there are also the Murley/Easteds.

1806 Hackney
William Murley married Jane Eastead.

JAMES EASTON MURLEY 
Birth:  02 SEP 1810   
Christening:  30 SEP 1810   Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London
Father:  WILLM. MURLEY
Mother:  JANE 

Marriages Sep 1846   
Murley  James Easted     Poplar  2 313
Dobson  Jane Sarah     Poplar  2 313   
 
1841 census Plumstead James and Samuel Murley shipwrights. Also present Sarah Murley who might be a younger sibling.
1851 census Woolwich James is a shipwright and younger unmarried brother Samuel the same, both born Poplar.
1861 census Woolwich James and Samuel shipwrights. Visiting is William Murley aged 52 and married, a shipwright born Poplar.
1881 census Greenwich James was a retired shipwright - pesnsioner.

Deaths Sep 1888 
Murley  James Easted  78  Greenwich  1d 534

Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Can anyone help with my quest?
Post by: KPM on Wednesday 30 July 08 16:23 BST (UK)
Hi Valda

Many thanks for your assistance too :)

Its taken me a while to take all this in and try to find some connection to my family but I'm working on it

Thanks again for your help

Anne-Marie