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Title: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Saturday 29 October 05 00:37 BST (UK)
Hi my name is Nick Wingrove and I live in Canada. I am looking for the record of my G/G/Grandfather John J Reynolds who was born in Royston in abt. 1853. He later moved to London and became a police constable. Anybody interested in helping me?

  thanks in advance, Nick
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Saturday 29 October 05 00:48 BST (UK)
Hi Nick,

Have you tried this site - it is run by a Reynolds!

http://hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/

Have found a John Reynolds in 1901 census born in Royston, Cambs - but he is a licensed Victualer  - wife Fanny - could this be them?

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Saturday 29 October 05 00:51 BST (UK)
Hi Nick,

Found him in 1881 - do you have those details?

Keith
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Saturday 29 October 05 00:56 BST (UK)
1871 Mill Road Kneesworth

John Reynolds - Widow - 40 - Lab - Royston
Luke  "            - son - 16 - Ag Lab - Royston.
John     "          - son - 15 - under a coachman - Royson.

(hope he didn't hurt himself!  ;D)

RG10/1362 F24 P20

Keith
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Saturday 29 October 05 01:04 BST (UK)
1901 28 Mossford Rd Mile End Old Town

John Reynolds - 47 - Licensed Victualler - at home - Royston Cambs.
Fanny   "          - 50 -          Chipstow(?) Northamptonshire.
Frances            - 20 - Clerk (Com) - Stoke Newington, London.
Gertrude "       - 19 -    "         "             "       "
Lilian               - 17 -     "        "             "        "

RG13/336 F 106 P45

That should keep you quiet for a bit  ;D ;D

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Saturday 29 October 05 01:17 BST (UK)
That should keep you quiet for a bit  ;D ;D
Cheers

Keith

Just in case in doesn't:

1861 Baldock St - Bassingbourn - Cambs
John Reynolds - 39 -  Malt Maker - Bassingbourn
William  "       son - 19 -   "                 "
Mary Ann      Dau   - 15 Scholar         "
George        son     11  Labourer       "
Luke            son     7   Scholar           "
John               "       5      "                 "
Joseph           "     13    Labourer       "

(put down it that order!!)
RG9/814  F 68 P 10

Perhaps you have a choice of 2!!

Not much difference in distance from Royston.
No House address
William Reynolds - 48 - Farm Lab. - Barrington. (as rest)
Mary A     "             38
Joseph A                15   Miller
Caroline                 13
Eliza                       10
John S(?)                  6
Ruth H                      4
Dan W                   11 months   
   
RG9/814 F20 P16 Barrington Cambs
Cheers

Keith

Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Saturday 29 October 05 01:56 BST (UK)
Hi Keith: That's him on the 1901 census, I had some of the later information but I didn't have anything before the 1881 census. I wonder if you could go back a little more and see what happened to his mother

 Thanks a million, Nick
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Saturday 29 October 05 01:57 BST (UK)
What is a victauler?
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Saturday 29 October 05 04:17 BST (UK)
I don't understand is Royston in Cabridgeshire or Hertfordshire or both
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Saturday 29 October 05 04:37 BST (UK)
Hi Keith: That's him on the 1901 census, I had some of the later information but I didn't have anything before the 1881 census. I wonder if you could go back a little more and see what happened to his mother. If he was 47 1n 1901 how could he be 15 1n 1871 or 5 or 6 1n 1861 and what the hell is he doing under a coachman

 Thanks a million, Nick
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Saturday 29 October 05 15:46 BST (UK)
Hi Nick,

Questions questions questions !!  ;D ;D

Some answers:
Royston is mostly in Hertfordshire - but..........
Have a look here http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/hrt.htm#roys
As you probable know the boundaries did change quite often - so it depends on the year!!

Licensed Vict.. is an Inn/pub landlord/owner.

Will have a look for his mother later - do you know which family might be his - think I will have to follow the possible brothers to find some more clues.

Regarding ages - anywhere within 6 or 7 is OK in my family!!  ;D
If they were marrying someone younger than themselves it's funny how they lost a few years!

Hopefully back later

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Saturday 29 October 05 23:10 BST (UK)
Hi Nick,

This is more complicated than I at first thought - I now have 3 John Reynolds born in Cambridge in the mid 1850's - send me your email address by PM and I will send you some more information.

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Monday 31 October 05 03:31 GMT (UK)
Sorry Keith: I didn't see your posting until Sunday Night Canadian time so I'm replying now. My e-mail address is email address removed by moderator - please send a personal message via the secure Rootschat PM system - thankyou.  Let me know when you have my e-mail address so I can remove it. I was warned earlier about leaving my e-mail on rootschat because of spammers.
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Monday 31 October 05 09:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Nick,

Yes Spammers!!

That's why I said send a personal message.

Keith
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Monday 31 October 05 17:21 GMT (UK)
I thought PM meant in the evening not personal mail I don't speak computer very well. thanks for the Census records. I know for sure that the one in 1891 is not my John as for the other ones It could be any one of them Brrington Bassingbourne and Royston are all so close to each other and on two of them both parents have the same first name so a marriage license won't help either so now what?
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Monday 31 October 05 17:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Nick,

Leave it with me - I will have a route around and see what I can find.

What other facts are you sure of - so I can go from those?

(Sorry about the PM thing - get so used to it on here - forget everyone doesn't know it well)

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Monday 31 October 05 19:36 GMT (UK)
Because John was on the Police force, I was wondering if it would be possible to get some information from his personell file. What do you think?
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Monday 31 October 05 21:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Nick,

I think most of mine were on the other side of the law!!  ;D

It might be best to post that question on the "Occupation" board part of this site - I have noticed questions about the Police on there before - am sure someone will help.
That's the beauty of this site  - we all have little bits of knowledge we are very willing to share.

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Monday 31 October 05 21:31 GMT (UK)
OK I'll give it a try thanks
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Thursday 10 November 05 10:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Keith: I haven't had any luck with posting on the occupations board but I did find a record of his marriage to Fanny Maddock at Pancras in 1879 on free BMD so I will get a marriage license and check it out to get his fathers name. I have a feeling that the 1871 John from Kneesworth and the 1861 John in Bassingbourn are the same person. Would it be possible to find them on the 1851 census?

   Keep in touch, Nick
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: casalguidi on Thursday 10 November 05 11:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Nick

Have you tried searching the Police Orders website - plenty of REYNOLDS' in their database for you to search through

http://www.externalserver.me.uk:8085/

Casalguidi
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Thursday 10 November 05 23:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Nick,

Found this on the 1851 census

John Reynolds - 31 - Ag. Lab - Royston, Cambs.
Amelia - wife-      39              - Abington, Cambs.
William             - 10 -               Royston, Herts.
Sarah -                8 -                Bassingbourne, Cambs.
Mary Ann           - 6 -                        "                    "
Joseph              -  3     -                    "                     "
George            3 months  -               "                    "

Next Door!!
James Reynolds - 54 - Ag Lab -        "                    "
Elizabeth  wife     58                 Staple Morden(?) Cambs
Joseph   son-single 22 Ag Lab  Therfield, Herts 
James Roberson - Grandson - 10 - Bassingbourne, Cambs.
 

HO107/1708 F Pages 7/8
Baldock Rd, Bassingbourn, Cambridgeshire.

That is not my typing - putting Royston in 2 counties!!
Hope thats father next door!!

Gives you something to check - a few certificates might get them all together.

Cheers

Keith


Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Friday 11 November 05 03:59 GMT (UK)
Very cool!!! thankyou very much. 8)
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Monday 14 November 05 22:31 GMT (UK)
OK I sent for John and Fannys marriage license and I should have it by next week
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Monday 14 November 05 22:48 GMT (UK)

Don't send me the bill - if it's the wrong one!!  ;D ;D

Keith

Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Tuesday 15 November 05 01:24 GMT (UK)
I haven't been wrong yet I seem to have a  sixth sense for this kind of thing or do you know something I don't 8)
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Thursday 24 November 05 21:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Keith: It looks like we have the right one. I have the marriage license and it says his fathers name was John and although it's a little hard to read, I think it gives his fathers occupation as a maltster which is the occupation he gave on one of the census's. If you want I could send it to you by PM so you can check it out

  thanks, Nick
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Thursday 24 November 05 21:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Nick,

Yes - do that and I will see if I can get any more information from it.

Glad it seems to be the correct one (that saves me some money!)

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Friday 25 November 05 08:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Keith, I can't figure out how to attach the marriage license file to your e-mail ???
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Saturday 26 November 05 20:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Keith, I was wondering if you got my e-mail
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Sunday 27 November 05 21:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Nick,

Yep - got the marriage certificate fine - now we know that it is John who is the father - makes the one I found in 1851 census look correct.

If so how about a marriage between John and Amelia - found that on FreeBMD - Dec 1840 - Royston - 6 - 973 - to Amelia Engre!!

It means he must have gone from an Ag. Lab in 1851 to a maltster in 1861 - not that dissimilar.

What do you think?

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Keith Bateman on Sunday 27 November 05 21:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Nick,

If we are correct??!! - how about the birth of John's brother Luke in Jun 1853 in Royston 3a 190

If you get that birth certificate it might give you that family - just providing we have the correct one to start with?!

We need a look up on one of the full records for John (J?) Reynolds born 1855 around Royston anyone else out there!! ;D ;D

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Monday 28 November 05 05:13 GMT (UK)
Maybe I should wait and see if anyone else could help fill in the blanks. If I spend any more money on certificates my wife is going to lay a hard boiled egg. She doesn't share my interest in genealogy and therefore doesn't think that the cost of a certificate is justified.
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Lady Di on Thursday 01 December 05 23:35 GMT (UK)
Excuse me for butting in here

but

that consitiutes grounds for divorce


This wife understands that certificates ALWAYS come before food    ;D ;D

Di
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: drnick on Saturday 03 December 05 05:03 GMT (UK)
Is beer food?
Title: Re: Reynolds family from Royston
Post by: Lady Di on Saturday 03 December 05 06:34 GMT (UK)
Need you ask?      ;D