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Title: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: Andi R on Thursday 01 December 05 17:45 GMT (UK)
I assume most people on this site are clever enough to ignore these:

Please be carefull with e-mails from banks, for some reason I am being bombarded with them they all state they are from:

Llyods TSB, Barclays, Halifax and others and ask for details of accounts THEY ARE FRAUDULENT and having checked seem to come from the middle east, but probally are just routed that way

Stupid thing is not one says its from my bank not that I would fall for this

Andrew

Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: wotty on Thursday 01 December 05 17:52 GMT (UK)
I've also had these and a further one from "Barclays" saying that the first one was fraudulent and that I should contact them via a link on the second message. It still looked suspicious to me - the addresses seemed very similar (but I erase my messages fairly quickly and so didn't have the original message to double check).

Be careful!

Wotty.
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: gjil on Thursday 01 December 05 17:55 GMT (UK)
I also have been getting them in my bulk mail, sometimes up to about 8 a day. I don't even bother opening them , just delete straight away.

gjil
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: Andi R on Thursday 01 December 05 18:18 GMT (UK)
I delete them, and I would advise everyone to do so, I just thought I'd warn people, not that I think Rootschatters are so stupid as to fall for them,  but some people must fall for them.  I just as a matter of interest carried out a "WHOIS" search on one, hence I know where they are from


Andrew
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: suttontrust on Thursday 01 December 05 19:46 GMT (UK)
Obviously don't open them, but if you do, never click on links to supposed banks (or Paypal) or ebay.  And forward them to scams[AT]fraudwatchinternational.com  which is a good site for keeping you informed about current scams.

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Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: angi0 on Thursday 01 December 05 20:11 GMT (UK)
I also have been getting lots of these mails for banks Pay Pal and ebay I send them to the site mentioned above and also send the paypal ones to sppof[AT]paypal.com and the ebay ones to spoof[AT]ebay.com they are also working very hard to stop these scammers.

angie

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Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: Lloydy on Friday 02 December 05 09:07 GMT (UK)
I have had several emails from Barclays (or someone claiming to be!!) and just deleted them immediately.

Thanks suttontrust for posting the email link for the scams - I shall use it from now on :D

Jan
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: uk2003 on Friday 02 December 05 10:13 GMT (UK)
I also have been getting lots of these mails for banks Pay Pal and ebay I send them to the site mentioned above and also send the paypal ones to sppof[AT]paypal.com and the ebay ones to spoof[AT]ebay.com they are also working very hard to stop these scammers.

angie

Just had one a minute ago from a paypal fraudster. Paypals fraud email address is spoof[AT]paypal.com, sorry angie you misspelt it

Ken

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Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: JAP on Friday 02 December 05 10:26 GMT (UK)
 8)

Most mailing lists and forums ask members not to post warnings about viruses and spam

:o  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: angi0 on Friday 02 December 05 10:32 GMT (UK)
Thanks Ken having one of my typo days I think lol Pay pal and ebay work very well with the mails sent to them I must admit I nearly got conned on that one first time around now I chuck em straight in the deleted section, there is a new one also just started going round if you are an ebay seller they are being sent out in the format of Question for seller which if you have items listed you may log into I got one the other day but had no items on ebay so knew something was wrong.....so sellers beware check the item number it relates to as there was no such item....another scam to try and get us with...

Angie
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: maggiefishblue on Friday 02 December 05 10:48 GMT (UK)
Hi All,

Another scam which I have just become aware of is the sending out of 'Certificates' which state that the receiver has won in excess of 2 million pounds.  All you have to do to claim it is send £20 'admin. fees'!!!

I received one yesterday and filed it straight into the bin - what would I do with 2 million pounds anyway  ;D ;D

Maggie  :)
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: suttontrust on Friday 02 December 05 10:56 GMT (UK)
JAP, can you explain that one, please?  And I hope we're not going to have an outbreak of scrolling posts!  ::)
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: RJ_Paton on Friday 02 December 05 12:39 GMT (UK)
I think what JAP is trying to say is that many mailing lists are strictly moderated and any attempts to go off topic are strictly forbidden.
In addition you also have the problem that a lot of virus warnings that are circulated are hoaxes ..... a prime example was the one that tried to get everyone to delete a file where the icon was a small teddy bear from their systems .... this simply disabled a part of the computer system.

Unfortunately there are people out there who take some sort of perverse pleasure in creating these hoaxes and chain letters regardless of the consequences for those innocents who knowing nothing better either continue there circulation or actually act upon them.
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: Andi R on Friday 02 December 05 21:51 GMT (UK)
this wasn't a virus warning it was a fraud warning, but I know what you mean fake viruses can be as bad

If you do open these fake mails you can forward them to the banks security sections

Such as this internetsecurity[AT]barclays.co.uk replacing [AT] with @

http://www.met.police.uk/fraudalert/section/internet_fraud.htm is a site with advice on

Andrew

Oh and Maggie 2 million is no good apparentely you need 3 to live the life of a millionare - as if I know
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: RJ_Paton on Friday 02 December 05 22:30 GMT (UK)
Quote
this wasn't a virus warning it was a fraud warning,

Sorry, I wasn't trying to state anything about the original post or the reasons behind it ... I was simply trying to clarify a point made by another poster.

Unfortunately many systems get jammed up by people who unknowingly perpetuate hoaxes

But your warning regarding bank frauds is a timely one and everyone should heed it
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: Andi R on Friday 02 December 05 22:44 GMT (UK)
Whoops - no its me who should be sorry looking at my reply it does start a bit iffy and terse

I've had 36 (thirty six) of these mails in 8 days

Andrew

I wouldn't mind I don't have any money  ;) ;)
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: Arquebus on Friday 02 December 05 23:05 GMT (UK)
A slightly aside issue to Banks and scam emails.....and not trying to teach any of you to suck eggs either............

Not that many PC users seem to be aware of this.......

If you are running Broadband through an external modem ie, not the one in your PC, it would be worth your while to disable the internal modem in your PC.....and if you have a phone line connection straight from the PC to the phone socket, have that disconnected as well.

Even with your Broadband connection 'off' and your PC is switched on, if someone has stuck a dialler programme or anything else nasty (keylogger, say) in your PC (picked up in the course of your Internet visits) the d**n thing can use the 'defunct' line and modem to pass info and data out.

You disable it via Control Panel, System, Hardware, Device Manager, Modems, Disable.

Al

Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: Nadine Moore on Saturday 03 December 05 14:46 GMT (UK)
Most legitimate bank sites have their own fraud protection address and are happy for customers to forward these dubious ones onto them. I'm sure they would rather receive loads of scam ones than any of their customer be caught out by these evil tricksters.
Title: Re: WARNING - I don't mean to tell you to suck eggs
Post by: Man of Kent on Sunday 04 December 05 03:02 GMT (UK)
May I suggest, get a program Like Mailwasher it's free, it allows you to delete an bounce your mail whilst it is still on your server.

If you choose the Bounce option, it returns the mail to the sender, and gives the impression your e-mail doesn't exist.
By just deleting them from your ordinary mail account, although not replying to the sender, you are confirming your address is valid.