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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: Anjo on Saturday 14 January 06 00:34 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
could someone please help with this info that I found on the 1901 census of Wales it gives and Alexander Robertson as being born in what looks like the Parish of old daw, Aberdeen. Any one got any ideas as to where this place might be?? and where would be best to find a chr/birth record for him.
The piece is RG13/5184 page 20 he is aged 31
If anyone wants to take a look and see what they make of it.
I NEED HELP please
Angela.
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I've taken a look..."parish old dan" or "old dau" it looks to me.
Could it mean Old Deer?
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Prue
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Thanks Prue,
I was wondering that but don't know anything about Aberdeen and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. I'm useless at scotish and welsh dilect and have been making strange noises at my screen trying to think how a welsh enumerator would hear a scottish man's home place...
Is there anywhere I can check out the 1871 census for Aberdeen and see if I could find him as a baby do you know?? That might give me a better idea of which parish he could be in??
Thanks for your help
Angela.
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Don't know how it would sound in a Scottish accent to someone in Wales, but there is an Old Machar and a Newmachar near Aberdeen :) :)
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Hi Nessie,
I found old Machar but don't think its likely or the other one but hey...census often lead us astray so I'm not discounting it.
The IGI wasn't any help as there is over 30 chr for Alexander Robertson in Aberdeen but none that fits with the entry on the census. I need to find him on the 1871 when he was a baby and that might help narrow down the parish for me.
Thanks for your help.
all the best Angela.
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You can find the 1871 census online at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk , This is a pay per view site but £6 will get you 30 credits which shoulkd be enough to locate the person you are looking for. You can enter the name and approx age at the time of the census to narrow the search aand get the best "hit rate".
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Thanks Sherlock,
Thanks for that I'll take a look at that site.
All the best Angela.
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List of Aberdeenshire names that start Old
Old Quarry [ Tullynessle & Forbes ]
Old Rayne [ Rayne ]
Old-Leslie [ Leslie ]
Oldhall [ Aboyne ]
Oldkirk [ Oldmeldrum ]
Oldmaud [ New Deer ]
Oldmeldrum [ Oldmeldrum ]
Oldmill [ Coull ]
Oldmill [ Fintray ]
Oldmill [ Foveran ]
Oldmill [ Keithhall & Kinkell ]
Oldmill [ King Edward ]
Oldmill [ Longside ]
Oldmill [ Rayne ]
Oldmill [ Strichen ]
Oldmill [ Tarland ]
Oldmill [ Turriff ]
Oldmoss [ Fyvie ]
Oldnoth [ Rhynie ]
Oldtown [ Aboyne ]
Oldtown [ Cruden ]
Oldtown [ Kennethmont ]
Oldtown [ Leochel Cushnie ]
Oldtown [ Lumphanan ]
Oldtown [ Monquhitter ]
Oldtown [ Peterculter ]
Oldtown [ Tarves ]
Oldtown Leys [ Tarves ]
Oldwhat [ New Deer ]
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Thanks again Sherlock... There are so many possibities.
Have just been able to find his marriage so I'm going to send for that and that will at least give me his fathers name and maybe from where he came. Then I can start eliminating him from census etc.
Thanks for all your help.
Angela.
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This has been niggling awat to me - could it be Oathlaw?
This is a small village about 5 miles north of Forfar and a couple of miles south of Finavon, on the A90. The area is rural.
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Thanks Sherlock and legs for your help....
Its been bugging me as to where it is.... nice to have a place mentioned on census instead of just Scotland but for all the good its done me so far... will try the site you suggested legs. I haven't come across that one before. Thanks a million everyone.
Angela.
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List of Aberdeenshire names that start Old
It's missing the most obvious one: the parish of Old Deer. Not to mention the parish of Old Machar. I suspect that your list is too modern to include the names of parishes.
Forfarian
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This has been niggling awat to me - could it be Oathlaw?
This is a small village about 5 miles north of Forfar and a couple of miles south of Finavon, on the A90. The area is rural.
Not if it says Aberdeenshire - Oathlaw is quite a long way from the nearest part of that county. I don't think anyone would get mixed up between Aberdeenshire and Forfarshire.
Forfarian
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Hi
As you patiently ;D await getting his father's name & occupation name off marriage record, I wonder have you found Alexander in the 1881 Census ( if he was in Scotland many folk have the CD set for Scotland C81 - including me, but my CD drive is playing up and won't read). He was a Stonemason so possibly his father was also and still in the Aberdeen area in 1881....?
The Official 1901 Census, as opposed to Ancestry, transcribes his place of birth as "Old Darn". Bit of fun - Have a look at this site with your best Scots accent and Welsh ears on ;D
http://www.scots-online.org/grammar/aberdeen.htm
What about these possibilities
There is a locality in Aberdeen called "Bridge of Don". There is also reference to the "Old Don Bridge" here:
http://www.themaphouse.com/specialistcat/tallis/tallis.html
ABERDEEN:
http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/aberdeen/aberdeen/
says that the original settlement was referred to as Aberdon and was at the northern end of today's Aberdeen, on the South bank of the River Don. Also says: "This area is now better known as Old Aberdeen or Aulton ("Old Town").
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/landdisplay.jsp
Has an 1869 map showing Old Aberdeen.
Some thoughts for the pot!
Cheers
Anne
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Hi Anne,
Thanks for replying. Its much appreciated. I have been informed from an aberdeenshire person that Old Don was a part of the old town of Aberdeen and your explanation of it being near the river Don would all fit in. So I think i'm getting there slowly. Cert hasn't arrived yet. Hopefully before the week is out.
Thanks for all your help those sites are very interesting.
All the best Angela
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I have been informed from an aberdeenshire person that Old Don was a part of the old town of Aberdeen
Well, I have to admit that even when I lived in Aberdeen I never heard the term "Old Don". Even the bridge is 'Auld Brig o' Don" and the area around it is "Bridge of Don". More to the point, if he was born in Old Aberdeen, the name of the parish of his birth is Old Machar, not Old Don.
The 1881 census records
Alexander Robertson, aged 10, born Old Machar, mother Jane (father not in huosehold)
Alexander Robertson, aged 11, born Old Deer, in the parish of Deer, parents Alexander Robertson and Eliza
Alexander Robertson, aged 12, born in Old Machar, parents James and Mary
Alexander Robertson, aged 12, born Old Machar, son of a widowed Donald
There are several others aged either 10 or 12 born in Aberdeen with no indication of which parish, and one more born in Belhelvie an living in Old Deer.
There is something odd about the 11-year-old born in Old Deer; I cannot find his birth or those of his siblings in the IGI, which is unusual for 1870ish.
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Here's the only likely listing that I can see on the 1881 census
Yes, that is the one I found, but I didn't post it for copyright reasons.
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Pardon my error. I wasn't aware I was infringing on any copyright. My feeling was that I paid for an item and I was willing to share in a non profit or commercial way, then I could. However, knowing the error of my ways on this board I will comply in future.
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Pardon my error. I wasn't aware I was infringing on any copyright. My feeling was that I paid for an item and I was willing to share in a non profit or commercial way, then I could. However, knowing the error of my ways on this board I will comply in future.
You may have paid for it but you are NOT permitted to share that info - at least not in its original form - so copying and pasting is an absolute NO-NO. :)
If you rewrite the info, (transcribe) or just give the reference number, so others can look it up on their CDs, then its ok.
:)
HTH
BD
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Have just been able to find his marriage so I'm going to send for that and that will at least give me his fathers name and maybe from where he came. Then I can start eliminating him from census etc.
Angela.
Hi Angela,
Just curiosity but did you ever find out where in Aberdeenshire he was from?
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Off on a tangent, perhaps, but ... if the enumerator was English, and the occupants of the place were Scottish ... would it be reasonable to suspect that perhaps looking up placenames that start with "AULD" might be worth the effort?
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I think that is a very reasonable shout Deb; old daw, Aberdeen: Auld Aberdeen: Old Aberdeen?