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Title: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: linmey on Wednesday 18 January 06 16:55 GMT (UK): Who Do You Think You Are? 9PM BBC2

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Its Sheila Hancock tonight folks on Who Do You Think You Are? at 9pm, BBC2. I havnt read much about this one which in a way is good because it will be more of a suprise.

There is also Family Ties BBC4 at 10pm.
Another programme that may appeal to some RootsChatters is A Passion For Churches. BBC 2, 7.30 pm. The first 2 were really good and I think this one is about a chap restoring a church in Norfolk.
My favourite night of the week.
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Post by: Romilly on Wednesday 18 January 06 17:01 GMT (UK): Quote from: linmey on Wednesday 18 January 06 16:55 GMT (UK)
Its Sheila Hancock tonight folks. I havnt read much about this one which in a way is good because it will be more of a suprise.
There is also Family Ties BBC4 at 10pm.
Another programme that may appeal to some RootsChatters is A Passion For Churches. BBC 2, 7.30 pm. The first 2 were really good and I think this one is about a chap restoring a church in Norfolk.
My favourite night of the week.

Thanks for reminding me Linmey!

Now...where am I going to fit my evening run in??

Best Wishes, Romilly ;)
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: linmey on Wednesday 18 January 06 17:06 GMT (UK): Its going to be a tricky one Romilly. You have between 8 and 9, depending on how long you run for I suppose.
Its my daughters Brownie night so I have to fit it in around picking up a car full of giggling girls. At least I will get to watch the first one in peace.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: Romilly on Wednesday 18 January 06 17:15 GMT (UK): Quote from: linmey on Wednesday 18 January 06 17:06 GMT (UK)
Its going to be a tricky one Romilly. You have between 8 and 9, depending on how long you run for I suppose.
Its my daughters Brownie night so I have to fit it in around picking up a car full of giggling girls. At least I will get to watch the first one in peace.

I never do more than 10 minutes...(A New Years Resolution, but don't want to overdo it:-) so hopefully I'll manage to fit it in...

Romilly :)
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Post by: linmey on Wednesday 18 January 06 17:48 GMT (UK): Thats 10 minutes more than I do , but I have bought myself an exercise DVD. I sat and watched the whole thing through the other night and I dont feel any better at all.
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Post by: wheeldon on Wednesday 18 January 06 19:54 GMT (UK): I shall be watching it Limney-Sheila allways comes across as such a classy lady/down to earth and I like her immensely. She seems as if she would be quite as happy to have a glass of champagne or a pint of ale. My type of lady! I hope my judge of character doesn't prove me wrong and my view of her doesn't change after tonights programme - we shall see.
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Post by: linmey on Wednesday 18 January 06 20:11 GMT (UK): Apparently she discovers an energetic business woman in her tree, or so its just said on the BBC trailer. It dosnt give much else away which is a good thing.
I agree wheeldon, she always seems a really interesting sort of lady who comes across as really friendly and who you could invite round for a cuppa and a good chat.
Cant wait. Things are looking good. One son is at band practice, the other is at the gym. The 8 year old should be in bed but will probably end up gagged and tied up in the understairs cupboard. Only joking everyone!!!!
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: wheeldon on Wednesday 18 January 06 20:32 GMT (UK): Abuse, abuse at Linmeys house!!!!!!!!!!!! Only joking too - made me laugh. I'm OK as football is on the other side-praise the lord for the TV in the bedroom.

My child is also safely gagged and tied up in the cupboard-I've given her a candle and a bowl of gruel just incase the social services decide to interupt my TV viewing!
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: trystan on Wednesday 18 January 06 20:52 GMT (UK): Eight Minutes to Go!

WhooHoo!
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 18 January 06 20:56 GMT (UK): chap restoring a church in Norfolk

Did you catch this - very interesting

Think we can all sympathise with someone who has a magnificent obsession ;)

Tricia
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: linmey on Wednesday 18 January 06 21:00 GMT (UK): Fascinating stuff Tricia. Its amazing what one mans vision can achieve. Rather sad it was all taken out of his hands, but the wall paintings were awesome.(to quote my teenage son).
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: kerryb on Wednesday 18 January 06 22:07 GMT (UK): Now that was an interesting programme, I really sympathised with Sheila at the grave of Madame Zurhorst, I found the grave of my 5 x gr grandmother in the summer and had a quiet weep. It is quite moving.

Sheila has a most interesting background!

Kerry
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: Keith Sherwood on Wednesday 18 January 06 22:10 GMT (UK): Just seen the Sheila Hancock episode, and thought it was really very good and cohesive. There's nothing quite like starting out with a mystery photo or in this case a portrait, and ending up peering at an old gravestone in a churchyard...
One item right at the start of the programme really amused me. She was in the Carpenter's Arms in the Kings Cross area of London where she'd lived when a little girl. Sometimes I stop in there for a reviving pint after a visit to the FRC. The first time I ever settled my pint down on the table there I couldn't understand why the beer was shaking and vibrating ever now and again - till I realised it was the tremble of the London Underground, and Tube Trains rumbling right under the pub.
I'm surprised she didn't remember that as a child...
Keith
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: trellisick on Wednesday 18 January 06 22:22 GMT (UK): just wached the hancock one, amazing one side living it up as agents, brokers etc. and the others making a mint shoveling s**t, excelent viewing, must make sure to watch next week, that one sounds really interesting!!!! kali.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: kerryb on Wednesday 18 January 06 22:23 GMT (UK): This series is proving to be even better than the first!!

Kerry
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: Romilly on Wednesday 18 January 06 22:38 GMT (UK): Hi there,

I found the Sheila Hancock one fascinating, but was more moved by the BBC4 "Family Ties" Prog afterwards. It had a particular resonance for me, because it was about how parental death (wasn't) explained to children in the 1950's. The lady featured had lost her mother in 1958, & her father had never spoken to her about what happened. My father died in the 1950's, & just like in the programme, it was never spoken about...

I gather that this was how death was dealt with in the 1950's, but as the programme showed...it left lasting scars on the children affected in this way.

Romilly.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: Romilly on Wednesday 18 January 06 22:40 GMT (UK): Hi there,

I'm really looking forward to next week's one now!

Romilly.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: SallyF on Wednesday 18 January 06 22:42 GMT (UK): Gosh (or words to that effect !!).

What with Sheila and then Family ties on BBC4, I feel quite emotional.

That was even better than the Paxman one last week, and I enjoyed seeing Sheila's interest and enthusiasm as she found out more. Another convert, I reckon. She'll be on Rootschat next. ;D ;D ;D

Did notice another "dressmaker" though and still no "nudge, nudge, wink, wink".

Can't wait for next week, who is it next time?

Sally
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: trystan on Wednesday 18 January 06 22:54 GMT (UK): Wow,

Again, I welled up seeing Sheila, at the grave of Madame Zurhorst (don't tell anyone). She really got into it didn't she! Bless her.

I really felt that we shared a journey of discovery with Sheila, what a lovely lady, and from what a great lineage.

Trystan
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Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: linmey on Wednesday 18 January 06 22:56 GMT (UK): Both programmes absolutely rivetting. Better than last week and very moving.
Yes, also noticed the dressmaker. Well, she probably was!!!!
I didnt need to put the 8 year old in a cupboard because she was really interested, before she fell asleep that is.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: SallyF on Wednesday 18 January 06 23:01 GMT (UK): Ooooo. Just seen Guy's earlier posting on other thread, looks like Stephen Fry next. Can't be as good as Sheila's.....can it?? Bet he gets tearful too.

Sally
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: linmey on Wednesday 18 January 06 23:06 GMT (UK): Sheila will be a hard act to follow. She is such an engaging lady, with so much enthusiasm, and so polite and friendly to everyone.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: RJ_Paton on Wednesday 18 January 06 23:09 GMT (UK): My only criticism would be where they put forward the IGI as the source of all church records pre statutory registration .... a useful tool yes and also a potential minefield.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: Kevwood on Wednesday 18 January 06 23:16 GMT (UK): Hi, i have missed the first two, but just read about the stephen fry one in next weeks tv guide and it looks very interesting and emotional, mostly about his jewish relatives and wwII.

Kev.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: newbie on Thursday 19 January 06 06:20 GMT (UK): It really was a good programme, and I agree this series is starting out to be better than the last. Sheila Hancock came across as really interested to find her roots, I reckon she is going to be a convert, I wondered if she posted her "Zurhorst" query here?

Well done the Beeb.
Newbie
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: julianb on Thursday 19 January 06 06:38 GMT (UK): Quote from: newbie on Thursday 19 January 06 06:20 GMT (UK)
I wondered if she posted her "Zurhorst" query here?

Well done the Beeb.
Newbie

No she didn't (just done a search). Anyway the screen didn't look like RootsChat.

Back to the thread, it was a very good programme - I was shouting "look in the trade directories next" just before they did!

JULIAN
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: newbie on Thursday 19 January 06 06:47 GMT (UK): No it was "the other one" (site)
here's a link to what I have just found, the researcher posted the message.
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/rw/surnames.zurhorst/2.4
Newbie
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: julianb on Thursday 19 January 06 06:53 GMT (UK): Quote from: newbie on Thursday 19 January 06 06:47 GMT (UK)
No it was "the other one" (site)
Oh, you mean the site that has only 80% of the hits that RootsChat is currently receiving - http://www.genealogy.org/.

JULIAN
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: newbie on Thursday 19 January 06 06:56 GMT (UK): Julian, have a look at the link, it's fascinating stuff, much more info on the Zurhorst and one from a Sheila Makepeace who also has Zurhorst english ancestors, but it's much better on here
Trystan should tell the Beeb to get his researcher on here!
Newbie
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: bitty_matriarch on Thursday 19 January 06 08:39 GMT (UK): Unfortunately, I missed last last night's programme [HE was watching the football] - and it sounds as if it was VERY good - but did see last week's with Jeremy Paxman, which I enjoyed. This series is much better than the 1st, I have to agree.

Really want to see the Jane Horrocks one where her family "emigrated" to Rawtenstall, Lancashire to find work in the 1860s, as I have a parallel with that in my mother's PALMER family.

Does anyone know if the programme is available on the internet aka BBC Radio - Listen Again where you can listen to most radio programmes again for upto a week afterwards on the BBC website?

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b27/anniemcc/smilies/Cheers.gif) Ann
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Post by: XPhile2868 on Thursday 19 January 06 12:46 GMT (UK): this linkis to another message the researcher put. Sounds interesting - http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=localities.oceania.fiji.general&m=189.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: Boongie Pam on Thursday 19 January 06 14:41 GMT (UK): Very good programme, I really like the focus on why she agreed to do it. It's such an obsessive hobby I forget why I do it sometimes.

I do have one niggle about the programme and would be interested in your thoughts. When they show the tree they show parents under the married name fro the wife. That narks me I think it should be shown as a union of 2 distinct families i.e. the wife is under her maiden name.

Maybe Scottish research makes me think differently - dunno ???

I got a lump in the throat when she found the grave as well. That's my favourite bit actually going to cemeteries and introducing myself to the family ;D

The narration on th eprogramme didn't step by step enough for me they seemed to jump from one census entry to a cert. It's more realistic to gather all census material to isolate most info profitable cert?

Heyho - tiny niggles. It's my favourite night as well!

Pam
;D
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Post by: wheeldon on Thursday 19 January 06 16:55 GMT (UK): I have always admired Sheila Hancock - I was hoping that my view of her wouldn't change and it hasn't - the programme was fascinating.
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Post by: kerryb on Thursday 19 January 06 17:05 GMT (UK): MY view of her last night definitely got even better. She just seemed so enthusiastic and really keen to find out more.

I only wish I could watch Family Ties but not allowed to have Digital in this part of Sussex! :'(

Kerry
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Post by: northern_rose on Thursday 19 January 06 17:24 GMT (UK): Great programme last night!

Did anyone spot the mistake in Family Ties? ??? ??? ???

When the subject of the programme was reading her "mothers death certificate" she was actually looking at a GREEN marriage certificate?
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Post by: jakky on Thursday 19 January 06 17:37 GMT (UK): Enjoyed it, but I wish they would find someone with just Ag.Labs which is what most of mine are,

I found Family Ties most moving and wanted to offer our family to the poor woman and give her a big hug, what an unnecessary lot of suffering for her,

Jakky
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: Romilly on Thursday 19 January 06 18:18 GMT (UK): Quote from: jakky on Thursday 19 January 06 17:37 GMT (UK)
Enjoyed it, but I wish they would find someone with just Ag.Labs which is what most of mine are,
I found Family Ties most moving and wanted to offer our family to the poor woman and give her a big hug, what an unnecessary lot of suffering for her,
Jakky

Hi Jakky,

I agree entirely with your comments re: "Family Ties"...I really empathized with that poor woman:-(

But I think that that is how (parental) death was dealt with at that time.

Romilly.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: RJ_Paton on Thursday 19 January 06 19:44 GMT (UK): Quote
But I think that that is how (parental) death was dealt with at that time.

While there is a great deal in what you say I don't think it was just that .... I think she was seriously affected by her father's behaviour .
He was obviously traumatised by his wifes sudden illness and demise and to then be accused by the very people who should have been supporting him and his daughter of being responsible for the death was obviously too much. He cut himself and his daughter off completely from that family but never recovered from the death enough to realise what it had done to his daughter.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: linmey on Thursday 19 January 06 20:35 GMT (UK): We dont really know much of what he was like before her death do we! Even in the wedding photo the twins commented on his serious expression(or was that after his wifes death). They obviously remembered him as a stern chap I got the impression. It worried me that he said to his daughter that they didnt need anyone else. Perhaps he resented her family being such a big part of his wifes life.
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Post by: northern_rose on Thursday 19 January 06 20:46 GMT (UK): What a shame they didn't track her older brother down. They only mentioned him once saying they had "long since lost contact".

Then again maybe they did track him down and he either didn't want to see her or be on the programme.

To me he seemed the obvious person to track.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: willow2670 on Thursday 19 January 06 20:49 GMT (UK): I loved the bit where Sheila Hancock landed in Milan & thought
how lovely & fashionable the Itailians were. And there she is with
her brolly.
No heirs & gracies with our Sheila. ;)
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: tulstig on Thursday 19 January 06 20:51 GMT (UK): Ooohh I'm so jealous :(

Here in BCN we don't get the BBC channels, (not at €700 a pop!!) I'll have to find a rellie to tape for me and mail on, so if my comments on the shows apper a couple of weeks late please forgive me!!

they both sound fascinating.

Mark
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: linmey on Thursday 19 January 06 21:01 GMT (UK): Dont worry Mark, we will still be rabbiting on when you have managed to see it.
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Post by: tulstig on Thursday 19 January 06 21:05 GMT (UK): LOL

yes I did think that ;D ;D

but I want to join in ???

Mark
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Post by: kerryb on Thursday 19 January 06 21:10 GMT (UK): Mark

I haven't seen the Family Ties, so I have no idea what the rabbiting is about - now Sheila Hancock on the other hand!!!

Brilliant truly brilliant

Sorry

Kerry
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: kmo on Friday 20 January 06 20:20 GMT (UK): There seemed to be a huge leap in family fortunes from one generation to the next.
The Zorhorst's (sp) seemed prosperous, but a daughter ended up in a almshouse
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: Lloydy on Friday 20 January 06 20:34 GMT (UK): SHOCK!!!! :o HORROR!!!!! :o I NEED TO SIT DOWN.............

My Mum (who has no interest in the family tree) watched WDYTYA with Sheila Hancock and thought the programme was fascinating!!!!!!!!! Amazing :o

At last I think she's been converted!!!!!!! :D This afternoon she has asked me so many questions about her family that I am still in shock :o ;D

Jan
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: Romilly on Friday 20 January 06 20:52 GMT (UK): Quote from: Lloydy on Friday 20 January 06 20:34 GMT (UK)
SHOCK!!!! :o HORROR!!!!! :o I NEED TO SIT DOWN.............
My Mum (who has no interest in the family tree) watched WDYTYA with Sheila Hancock and thought the programme was fascinating!!!!!!!!! Amazing :o
At last I think she's been converted!!!!!!! :D This afternoon she has asked me so many questions about her family that I am still in shock :o ;D
Jan

Hi Jan,

I think that your Mum is not alone:-)

This series seems to have sparked an interest in family history in all sorts of people! Everyone seems to be talking about it...it certainly seems to be popularising the subject!!!

Romilly.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: linmey on Friday 20 January 06 21:06 GMT (UK): It wont be long before we have our 30,000 RootsChatters then.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: Lloydy on Friday 20 January 06 22:11 GMT (UK): Yes Romilly, and I'm still shocked. She has even said that she would like to have a look at my work, sometime next week!!!!!!!!

Linmey, I don't want the 30,000th member to appear too soon - my bet is for 30th May!!!!!!!!!

Jan
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: Headbanger Veron on Friday 20 January 06 22:53 GMT (UK): Goodness how I envy her having a surname like Zurhorst in the family! and Enrico Hancock! now there's some names which aren't going to crop up more than once in a while.... And I haven't even got any Smiths!

Veron ;D
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: linmey on Saturday 21 January 06 08:01 GMT (UK): The only thing I was slightly disappointed with was that they didnt take the family back as far as they did with Jeremy Paxman. I know it was very brief, at the end of his programme, but it did give a brief history of the location of the Paxman family and the origens of the name etc.
This is only me being pickey but it would have been nice to know perhaps more about the Dutch background of the original Mr Zurhorst. I guess they did all they could manage in an hour and there was such an interesting story to tell that they couldnt fit anymore in.
Perhaps we should suggest to the Beeb that the next series programmes are 2 hours. That should suit us nicely!!!!
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Post by: kerryb on Saturday 21 January 06 08:54 GMT (UK): The accompanying book is very good too - much more informative than the first!

Kerry
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: linmey on Saturday 21 January 06 09:42 GMT (UK): I didnt realise there was a book. Thanks for that Kerry. I am off to the shops.
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: newbie on Saturday 21 January 06 10:34 GMT (UK): A BOOK?

They didn't mention anything at the end of the programme did they? or did I just miss it?

Newbie
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 21 January 06 10:57 GMT (UK): It's called Who do you think you are - Heroes and villians, it has the story of the 6 personalities on the programme as well as lots of information about aspects of filling in different ancestors on your tree.

I bought it from Amazon - hardback - £8.24!

Kerry
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: newbie on Saturday 21 January 06 10:58 GMT (UK): Thanks for the information, I'll have a look for it when I go shopping,
is it worth it?
Newbie
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 21 January 06 11:06 GMT (UK): Werll I think so but I am addicted to genealogy and books so.....

but there are loads of useful addresses in the back and each chapter is on a different aspect of life ie 'earning a crust' . It seems to follow the particular themes picked up in each of the 6 programmes, ie so far Jeremy - migration and Sheila - everyday life.

Kerry
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: newbie on Saturday 21 January 06 11:32 GMT (UK): Thanks Kerry, will have a look for it later if I can,
Newbie
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: linmey on Saturday 21 January 06 12:41 GMT (UK): Its even in Asda which is handy because I just popped it in with the weekly food shopping and hopefully nobody will notice!!!!
It looks like good value for money.
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Post by: LibbyW on Saturday 21 January 06 17:09 GMT (UK): What a great evenings entertainment. Everyones right this series is definately better than the last.

That poor lady in Family Ties, how awful to be cut off like that. But what a shock when you eventually find two of your cousins then find theres at least another 18 out there as wel!!!!!!!

Excellent!!!!

We Want More!! Love it, Love it, Love it!!
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Libby ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Who Do You Think You Are (2)
Post by: northern_rose on Saturday 21 January 06 19:10 GMT (UK): I must get the book ..........didn't realise there was one.................... which is stupid as I have the one from the first series!!!!!! :-[

Thanks for mentioning it!
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Post by: ryan on Saturday 21 January 06 22:58 GMT (UK): I'm loving #2! Much better than #1.

Sheila Hancock's was fascinating, especially all that business with her Zurhorst line and that funny portrait she was carrying with her everywhere!

Ryan.

:)
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Post by: Brian & Berni on Monday 13 February 06 08:47 GMT (UK): we definitely need more programs on tv like these too many cookery, diy & selling homes rubbish

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