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Title: Help with Ogle
Post by: Rachandcath on Friday 03 February 06 14:53 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any infomation on a Richard Ogle, birth date 1873 - married to Margaret Sword born 1876. I would like to find out about his parents and siblings.
I belive he lived in Gateshead in the 1900's but I can't seem to find anything on him in the 1881 census.
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Tati on Friday 03 February 06 15:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachandcath,

Welcome to rootschat  8)

I think I can see him living in Gateshead in 1901 as follows:
RG13/4754 114 29
Gateshead, Durham
18 Windsor Avenue
Richard Ogle, head, 28, Police Constable, b. Northumberland Newcastle
Margaret, wife, 23, b. Durham Tyne Dock
Richard, son, 4, b. Gateshead
George, son, 2, b. Gateshead
Doris, dau, 1, b. Gateshead

If this is him, then the 1881 census has a good match for him:  RG11/5059 folio 10 page 12
I'll let you have another look because it's more exciting to find them on one's own. (Otherwise come back to me!)

Tanja  :)
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Tati on Friday 03 February 06 15:07 GMT (UK)
This seems to be him in 1891
RG12/4207 32 17
6 High Friar Street
Thomas Ogle, head, mar, 48, Musician, b. Newcastle All Saints - blind since 12 years old
Richard, son, single, 18, Seaman assistant steward, b. Newcastle St Andrews

Tanja  :)
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: tulstig on Friday 03 February 06 15:07 GMT (UK)
ON 1901 census living in Gateshead:
Richard Ogle, 183, Born Newcastle, Head
Margaret Ogle, 1876, Tyne Dock, wife
Doris Ogles, 1900, Gateshead, dau
George Ogle, 1899, Gateshead, son
Richard, 1897, Gateshead, son

RG13/4754.  Folio 114, page 29

In 1881 at 35 Prudhoe St, Newcastle On Tyne St Andrew, Northumberland, England:

Richard Ogle, 1873, Newcastle,son
Thos. Ogle, 1845, Newcastle, Head
Mary J Ogle, 1853, Durham, wife
Mary Ogle, 1880, Newcastle, dau
George Ogle, 1877, Newcastle, son.

RG11/5059
Folio 10 page 12

And 1891 In Northumberland:
Richard Ogle, 1873, Newcastle, son, occupation listed as seaman assisted steward
Thomas Ogle, 1843, Newcastle, head occupation listed as musician, notes say blind since 12 years old.

No other family listed.

Do you think these might be yours?

Mark
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Tati on Friday 03 February 06 15:11 GMT (UK)
I'm afraid Thomas's wife Mary is a the workhouse in 1891: >:(
RG12/4203 90 24
The Union Workhouse Newcastle on Tyne
Mary Ogle, inmate, married, 39, wife of Thomas, b. St Andrews Newcastle

 
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Tati on Friday 03 February 06 15:16 GMT (UK)
Still 1891, brother George inmate at 'The Ragged and Industrial Schools' Newcastle and sister Mary scholar at Northumberland Village Homes as it seems.

Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Rachandcath on Friday 03 February 06 15:23 GMT (UK)
yes, I think these are definatley my lot!
thanks alot.
Can you also help with Thomas Ogle  - the musician. - Who were his parents?


many thanks.

rach and cath
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Rachandcath on Friday 03 February 06 16:10 GMT (UK)
wow, I feel quite saddened by the news of Mary. Can anyone tell me under what likely circumstances she could have been put in the work house?
Where can I get my own copies of this information from?


rach and cath
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Tati on Friday 03 February 06 16:37 GMT (UK)
1901
RG13/4780 104 1
Newcastle St Andrew
6 Blackett Street
Thomas Ogle, head, widower, 56, musician retired, b. Newcastle, blind from childhood
George, son, unm, 24, Mechanical labourer?, b. do.

Tanja  :)
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Tati on Friday 03 February 06 16:43 GMT (UK)
This looks like young Thomas
1851
HO107/2404 601 84
Elswick Northumberland
George Ogle, head, 30, Engine wright, b. Durham Washington
Susanah, wife, 29, b. Durham
Thomas, son, 6, b. Newcastle - blind
George son, 4, b. do.
Margaret J, dau, 2, b. do.
Mary, dau, 1m, b. do.

Tanja  :)
 
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Tati on Friday 03 February 06 16:47 GMT (UK)
1861
RG9/3820 89 43
Newcastle upon Tyne St Andrew
79 Blind Asylum 
Thomas Ogle, pupil, 16, Basket maker, b. Newcastle

Tanja  :)
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Tati on Friday 03 February 06 16:50 GMT (UK)
1871
RG10/5095 28 4
Newcastle All Saints
6 Forsters Court
Susanna Ogle, head, wid, 50, Dressmaker, b. Durham Gateshead
Thomas, son, unm, 26, Musician, b. Newcastle on Tyne
Joseph B, son, 12, scholar, b. do.

Tanja  :)
 
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Tati on Sunday 05 February 06 10:53 GMT (UK)
Possible death for Thomas' wife Mary:
September quarter 1896
Newcastle upon Tyne
Mary Ogle age 44
Volume 10b page 18


Possible death for Thomas' mother Susannah:
Septembr quarter 1878
Newcastle upon Tyne
Susannah Ogle age 55
Volume 10b page 2

Tanja  :)


Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Ju on Sunday 12 February 06 22:31 GMT (UK)
Hi!

The International Genealogical Index (www.familysearch.org) has a record for the christening of Richard Ogle on 29th Dec 1872 at Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne. He was the son of Thomas and Mary Ogle.

Ju
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: sarah on Tuesday 17 August 21 18:17 BST (UK)
Quote
This Richard Ogle OBE is my Great grgrand

A new member Linda has sent me this message instead of posting on the thread.

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: Linda Wallace on Wednesday 18 August 21 08:05 BST (UK)
Quote from: sarah on Tuesday 17 August 21 18:17 BST (UK)
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This Richard Ogle OBE is my Great grgrand

A new member Linda has sent me this message instead of posting on the thread.

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Help with Ogle
Post by: trystan on Wednesday 18 August 21 09:23 BST (UK)
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