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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: Garethboxing on Thursday 09 February 06 17:12 GMT (UK)
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Anybody know anything about Thomas Morgan Jones, a surgeon, from Loughor. He was the father of Jane Lewis, who married my great-grandfather in 1870, acknowledging his position on their marriage certificate even though, apparently, not married to her mother.
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I have found a possibility in 1851 - brother to the Rector of Loughor!
Posting shortly
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HO107/2468/32/33
Jno Powell JONES H U 27 - Rector of Loughor - Glamorgan Llangefelach?
Thos Morgan JONES brother U 26 - Member of the College of Surgeons - Glamorgan Llandilotalybont ?
Anne JONES sister U 31 - Llangefelach
Daniel THOMAS serv Mar 23 - groom and gardener - Carmarthen Llanegwad
Elizabeth WILLIAMS serv U 21 - housemaid - Glamorgan Llandilotalybont?
Address: Rectory, Loughor, Glamorgan
[not certain of the placenames - a bit small to read!]
kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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1861 census
RG9/4110/27/26
John Powell JONES H U 38 - Rector of Loughor - Glamorgan Llangevelach (sic)
Anne JONES sister U 42 - Rector's sister - do
Thos Morgan JONES brother U 35 - Member of Royal College of Surgeons - Glamorgan Llandilo Talybont
Elizabeth GRIFFITH servant U 20 - house servant - Carmarthen Clydey
Address: Rectory, Loughor, Glamorgan
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Great stuff, Arranroots - thanks a lot! It also ties in with an entry I found in the 1841 Census, which has Thomas (9) living in Loughor Lower Town with widowed mother Rebeca (35), and sisters Ann (15 - that's the clincher!), Catherine (10) and brother William (eight). No sign of John, though - if he was 11, I suppose he could have been away at some religious school...
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Here's 1881 - stuck on 1871, but will get back later
RG11/5370/46/26
Thomas Morgan JONES H M 55 - surgeon M R C S Eng - Glamorgansh Loughor
Elizabeth JONES W M 52 - do wife - Glam Muchcalston?
Catherine EVANS serv U 16 - gen serv - Loughor
Elizabeth LEWIS serv U 16 - gen serv - Carmarthenshire Llanelly
Address: Kilby House, Loughor, Glamorgan
Glad it all ties in!
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Here is 1871
RG10/5464/43/43
Thos M JONES H M 45 - surgeon MRCSE - Glamorgan Loughor
Elizabeth W M 40 - Glamorgan Michaelston
Mary Ann THOMAS serv U 36 - gen serv dom - Loughor
Henry N MUSWORTHY serv U 25 - groom - Devon Bratton Fleming?
Address: Kilby House, Loughor
The Thomas bit was rather difficult to read this time!
A ;)
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I now know TMJ was the son of Morgan Jones, Dantwyn, Pontardulais, clearly something of a pillar of society, as he was the Llangyfelach representative on the Swansea Board of Guardians, a post in which, on retirement, he was succeeded by Thomas. Does anybody know if Dantwyn was a farm or an area? And what exactly was the function of the Board of Guardians?
Thanks for any help forthcoming!
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Hi Gareth
Try www.old-maps.co.uk for the place (my knowledge isn't local enough!)
The Board of Guardians oversaw the work of the Workhouse and made decisions about its everyday running, such as making allowances for paupers to be buried.
http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/BOARD.htm
A ;)
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Thanks Arranroots,
An old map of the area shows Dan-y-twyn (a variant of Dantwyn; it means "beneath the hill") as something looking remarkably like a farm.
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Hi,
Answering my own query - Dantwyn (as they now call it) is a farm and still functioning after some 500 years. It's a short walk from the centre of Pontardulais.
Regards, Gareth
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Powell - Jones
Obviously this is not the same man
but the mention of Powell in some of the posts got me wondering if there could be a family connection here somewhere.
Thomas Morgan Jones
born about 1836 Glamorganshire Wales to Mary & David Jones
married 1854 Wales to
Margaret Powell
born 1837 Glamorganshire Wales to Mary (nee Davies) and James Powell.
Children of Margaret and Thomas are
James Jones born 1857 Wales
Mary Jane Jones born 1858 Wales
They sailed to Australia in 1859 on the Ship Marco Polo
also on the voyage was Mary Jones aged 22, possibly Thomas' sister, but I am not sure.
2 more children were born to Margaret and Thomas in Australia
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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As you say, not the same man. When I first started checking out my TMJ I discovered another one, a grocer in Neath, and thought this could be the guy you're looking for. But my notes have him as marrying a Mary Ann Lewis in 1862, so that's him out of the frame as well, I'm afraid.
Sorry I can't help.
Regards, Gareth
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Still looking for information on Powell - Jones as mentioned above.
Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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Hi Greenemma
Have you posted separately for your family?
You are more likely to get a response and since they do not appear to be linked to Gareth's it makes more sense.
Make sure you state exactly what info you are searching for (and what you already have to avoid duplication). Bear in mind that the names MORGAN and JONES are about the most "popular" in Wales, with POWELL not far behind!!
kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Hi,
Thanks very much, I will list this query separate. Just though some one else reading this post may see and recognise the names. Cheers.