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Title: COMPLETED. Thankyou. PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 17 February 06 01:03 GMT (UK)
Eilleen here again, could someone look to see if they can find where SARAH PINDAR was in 1841.  born Long Sutton, Lincolnshire, date of birth about 1797, maybe living in Gainsborough . thankyou.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Friday 17 February 06 09:05 GMT (UK)
1841

634-2/7
Church St, Gainsborough
Sarah PINDER 40 Draper
Ann 73
Edward 20
Mary Ann BROWN 25 Dressmaker
All born Lincs
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 17 February 06 09:34 GMT (UK)
Geoff, thankyou for your time .Eilleen
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 13 April 07 14:26 BST (UK)
Geoff E , or any helpful soul,  Geoff found Sarah Pinder ( PINDAR ) on the 1841 census , I see that she has a lady of 73 yrs living with her called Ann,  I was wondering if this Ann was a Pinder or a Green ( Sarah's maiden name )  if Ann is a Pindar, then I have totally got the wrong mother for Sarah's husband,    hope that all make's sense.   from Eilleen.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Friday 13 April 07 14:30 BST (UK)
The old lass was a PINDER.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: lcsnor on Friday 13 April 07 14:34 BST (UK)
Not necessarily her mother in law though - it could be an aunt etc.
if Ann is a Pindar, then I have totally got the wrong mother for Sarah's husband
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 13 April 07 14:44 BST (UK)
Thankyou for the quick replies, I have been so busy begging look ups for someone else, my brain has been scrabbled and for the last few weeks I  have felt like I belonged to a totally different ancestor line,   but now I am going to put all my effort's and brain cells and powers of persuasion :) into building my much yearned for branch of Pindar's ( Grandma's maiden name )  so please be there for me.   returning shortly  ;D ;D   Eilleen.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Friday 13 April 07 15:01 BST (UK)
Sarah PINDER (of Long Sutton) was the widow of Edward PINDER - they had a son Edward in 1821 who appears in 1841 and 1851 censuses with Sarah.

Edward was buried 18 April 1825 aged 36
Sarah was buried 31 March 1876 age 80

I would imagine that Edward was the son of George and Ann, bap Gainsborough 17 Sept 1788 .... in which case, Ann could well be the mother in law of Sarah.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 13 April 07 15:35 BST (UK)
Who's a clever boy then :) thankyou Geoff E , you have got me back another generation, have to find siblings now,  obsession, obsession, keeps me out of trouble  ;D   Eilleen.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Friday 13 April 07 15:48 BST (UK)
Just to let you know that the marriage of Edward PINDER and Sarah PALIAN/PAILIN (perhaps the one bap 1796 Long Sutton) took place at Horbling 25 July 1813 and not at Gainsborough (which some IGI entries suggest).

Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 13 April 07 16:12 BST (UK)
Ah bless :'( they were only married for about  12 yrs before he died,   on the plus side  ::), unless they had loads of twins , I will only be looking for a few siblings for there son Edward born abt 1821.      Eilleen.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Friday 13 April 07 16:32 BST (UK)
As my BIVRI disks have an extra one (compared with IGI), I'd better give you

George 5 July 1823 (buried 6 Sept 1829 age 6)
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 13 April 07 16:38 BST (UK)
Geoff E, what is a BIVRI, and does this mean George is a brother to Edward  ??? Eilleen,    don't forget to tell me when I am bugging you  :) or asking to much.  Eilleen.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Friday 13 April 07 17:25 BST (UK)
Geoff E, what is a BIVRI, and does this mean George is a brother to Edward  ??? Eilleen,    don't forget to tell me when I am bugging you  :) or asking to much.  Eilleen.

BIVRI2 (British Isles Vital Records Index, 2nd Edition) is a set of disks sold by LDS which has lots of baptisms and marriages

http://www.genoot.com/downloads/BVRI2/

George has parents with the same names as those of Edward's parents.  He was baptised a couple of years after Edward was, in the same church.  It's not unreasonable to suspect that they were brothers.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Eilleen on Friday 13 April 07 23:28 BST (UK)
Geoff E ,
 thanks to you , I have been trawling through the IGI, and found all the children with parents called Geo and Ann Pinder/Pindar, for Gainsborough, so it looks like there could have been a Charlotte Pindar christened 16th July 1787, died 6th Sept 1787.   and a marriage of George Pinder to Ann Eggleston Gainsborough march 1787,    more investigating to be done, but thankyou for putting me in the right direction.  Eilleen.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Friday 13 April 07 23:44 BST (UK)
Hi Eilleen - glad you think you might be getting somewhere!

There were several aged PINDERs buried in Gainsborough in the 1830s and 40s.  One of interest to you may be Anne, 7 March 1842 age 73 ... I think that may help finding her baptism. ;)  You may also find a George PINDER a couple of years older who is worthy of consideration.

I'm very good at joining up other people's dots!  :D

Title: Re: PINDAR, 1871
Post by: Eilleen on Saturday 14 April 07 17:32 BST (UK)
Could or would or both, someone look to see if the following are on the
 1871 census, 
 John Green Pinder/Pindar  aged abt 28, wife Mary aged abt 26, and children, I would also like to know where she came from .     thankyou from Eilleen.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Saturday 14 April 07 17:58 BST (UK)
1871

RG10/3444/25
Back St, Gainsborough
John Green PINDAR 28 Machinist and Joiner, Gainsborough
Mary PINDAR 26 Northants, Wood Newton
Mary Strickson PINDAR 2 Gainsborough
Ann Louisa PINDAR 8m Gainsborough

I assume you know who he married ... she appears in the GRO index as both LANDIN and LAUDIN

Marriages Sep 1867 
Landin    Mary        Gainsbro'    7a   1110   
Laudin    Mary         Gainsbro'    7a   1110   
Pindar    John Green         Gainsboro    7a   1110   

BIVRI2 has
11 Aug 1867 at Gainsborough All Saints
John Green PINDAR (24 son of Edward) to Mary LANDIN (23, dau of George)
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Eilleen on Saturday 14 April 07 18:03 BST (UK)
Geoff E , once again thankyou, that answers my question on were she came from, Yes I had found the marriage, I'm trying for her birth now.    Eilleen.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Saturday 14 April 07 18:06 BST (UK)
I added a bit more above ;)

1861
Church St, Gainsborough
Mary LANDIN (wid) 43 Gardiner emp 2 men, Kingscliffe Northants
Sarah 21 Wood Newton
Mary 17 Wood Newton
George 14 Gardiner App, Wood Newton
Strickson 12 Wood Newton
Thomas 10 Wood Newton
John H 5 Gainsborough
Elizabeth 3 Gainsborough
Dinah COCKING 14 House serv, Gainsborough
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Eilleen on Saturday 14 April 07 18:25 BST (UK)
Thanks Geoff E , I had just been looking and found nothing,  thanks for the census as well, I going to see what "new wood " was like  ???    must remember not to stray to far away from my Pindar trail  :)  Eilleen.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Saturday 14 April 07 19:12 BST (UK)
Marriages Jun 1839
LANDIN    George        Oundle    15   501   
STRICKSON    Mary         Oundle    15   501

1841
Woodnewton
George LANDIN 30 Gardener
Mary 20
Sarah 1

next door

John LANDIN 65 Gardener (NOT Northants
Alice 65
James 25 Gardener
Mary 20
Mary 2m

next door

William LANDIN 35 Farmer
Alice 25
John 5
George 3
Elizabeth 4m

Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Eilleen on Saturday 14 April 07 19:27 BST (UK)
Thanks Geoff E , looks like they liked living close together,    I have googled  WOOD NEWTON  but not a great deal coming up , I like to see pictures or read about it's history.    right  must go and make the beds up for the bairns.   Eilleen.
Title: Re: PINDAR, 1841 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Saturday 14 April 07 19:46 BST (UK)
Re 1851: read this http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.nth.general/4465.2/mb.ashx

Unfortunately, the Genuki page for Northants doesn't seem to be working.  Usually, if I want to know about a place, I put (for example)

Genuki Gainsborough

into Google, and find a decent page at the top of the hit list.