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Title: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Tuesday 16 March 04 23:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Cheshire Researchers

I have access to the Marriage Registers for all 5 volumes of W.P.W Phillimores Cheshire Parish Record Transcripts. Marriages only

The dates covered are 17th and 18th Century

If you require me to look through these records for an ancestor of yours, please supply as much information as possible; and I will try to oblige

Chris in 1066Land  
 
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 19 March 04 15:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
does your index have records of churches in Bosley,Wincle,Rushton and Gawsworth if so I am looking for BENNETT/BENNET records from all years
hopefull as ever
peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Thursday 25 March 04 15:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter

hi Chris,
Did you miss my request to your offer of look ups on the Cheshire parish weddings particulary Bennett/Bennet's in Bosley.
hopefully
peterbennett


Marriages at Bosley
John Slater & Hannah Bennett – 24th July 1836
Richard Latham & Alice Bennett – 14 Aug 1851
Robert Boothby & Jane Bennett – 3rd August 1823
John Bennett, p. Taxal, & Ann Smith by licence - 24 Nov 1685
Eward Anderton of Gawsworth & Ann Bennett by licence – 23 Dec 1783
Johannes Bradford ,p. & Stockport, & Catherine Bennet of Alderley - 27 Nov 1701
Francis Day, clerk of Bosley & Sarah Bennet of Bosley after they had been lawfully published in the mother church of Prestbury, and no objection made – 25 Dec 1736

Chris in 1066Land


Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: FAB Fiona on Thursday 25 March 04 22:15 GMT (UK)
Hi

Hoping you can help me locate my Hampson and Walters ancestors.

Eliza Walters was born around 1800 (aged 71 in 1871 census) in Stockport.  She married William Hampson.  The first child that I have knowledge of was Ellen Hampson who was born in Congleton in about 1837.  (The family then moved to Salford where other children were born in the early 1840s.)  

I hope you will be able to help me pick up their track...

Fiona
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 26 March 04 15:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Fiona,
I have a record of William Hampson and Eliza Walters marrying on the
8th Sept.1817 at St.Mary Cheadle Stockport
this the only marriage of those names in the Cheshire index  that I have.
There are no records of Hampsons born in Congleton between 1837 and 1850
How likely is it that they were in Congleton during the 1941 census?
If you think it highly likely then I will do a search for you.
I do not have census records for Salford so you may have to post another request on the Lancashire board.
Please give as much info. as possible.
regards
peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: FAB Fiona on Saturday 27 March 04 00:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter

With thanks for your help and your trouble.  The Walters-Hampson marriage sounds very hopeful.  I don't suppose the register is one of those all encompassing registers with idiosyncratic information that tells you who their parents were and where they came from etc?  

I don't think they were in Cheshire at the 1841 census although it is always a possibility with these things.  I think they had a daughter, Catherine, in Salford, in about 1840/1841 and a last son, Edward, in 1844 - again in Salford.  With thanks for the offer of looking up on the census though.

As for Ellen Hampson, their daughter, Congleton was the place of birth she/her husband/her mother constantly gave for her place of birth 1861 onwards in Salford.  It is possible it was 1836.  I have noticed two Ellen Hampson's born in 1837 on the Cheshire BMD site, but haven't pursued either yet because I couldn't be sure which might be closest to Congleton geographically.

It might help if I found other children.  If you, or anyone else, have thoughts on how I might locate them without the ever-helpful BMD sites, I'd be delighted to know.  I will pursue the 1817 marriage and see where it leads,

Fiona
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 27 March 04 17:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Fiona
A search of Catherine showed birth, Salford, dec,1839,
volume.xx 706.
this being correct it is unlikely that the Hampsons were in Congleton after September 1839.
I don't think that the 2 Ellens you mentioned (1 born Dukinfield and one Neston Wirral) are associated in anyway with the one your looking for.
I wonder if the father was a tradesman at all? If so there will be trade directories (Pigots) for the 1830,s in Congleton.
Failing that I don't know where your based but it might need a visit from you to the Cheshire Records Office in Chester to view the parish records for birth records. Or telephone the Congleton library (01260 271141) to see what they may have.
Good luck
peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: FindingAncestors on Monday 29 March 04 14:14 BST (UK)
Hello Chris ::),  This is great! Hope you can help me. Am looking for my LANGFORD/LLOYD/BENNETT  families. They were in the Saughall, Mollington areas in the late 1790's and the 1800's. Probably up to 1860's/70'S. Thomas born circa 1787. and died June 1847 I think in Mollington. Don't know whom he married may have been Ann ?, had children; Mary no date, Ann no date, Martha no date, Emma no date, Robert 1818, Saughall, John 1830, Gt.Saughall . John married Elizaberth LLOYD in 1855 in Chester. They had children John Lyon born April 1860 and Thomas b.circa 1858 Cheshire. Elizabeth LLOYD b.circa 1837 Cheshire father Thomas LLOYD. Also looking for marriage for Elizabeth ? to John BENNETT not sure of marriage but Elizabeth born circa 1829 in Neston or Nestor. Know nothing for John BENNETT. Hope you can find some of them. thank you.  ;)
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 29 March 04 18:45 BST (UK)
hi,
can you give me a district or address for Thomas Langford
from his death certificate and a name of the person who registered the death?
I will then do a search of the 1841 census,which should answer a lot of your questions.
peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Monday 29 March 04 20:52 BST (UK)
Hi there Catherine

Can find no reference to St Mary, Rostherne on the CD - Sorry

Chris in 1066Land
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Catherine on Monday 29 March 04 20:57 BST (UK)
Hi! Chris

Or should I call you speedy - thank you so much for checking for me, it was worth the try.

Catherine   :)
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: FAB Fiona on Tuesday 30 March 04 00:26 BST (UK)
Goodness, why didn't they allow the Cheshire records to be on the IGI?

Another probably Cheshire marriage that's caused a stumbling block: Stredder m. Sparks.  I am looking for a marriage Birkenhead and Bebbington way between William (Smith) Stredder and Margaret Sparks probably in the later 1830s.  (They had a son George Alfred Stredder, and daughters Alice Ann Stredder and Amelia Stredder who were both born and married in the 1860s Birkenhead and Bebington areas.  Other children later born in Liverpool and Bolton.)

Other Stredder and Sparks references gratefully received,

With thanks

Fiona
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Catherine on Tuesday 30 March 04 07:40 BST (UK)
Hi! Fiona

There is 10 marriages for the name Stredder on the Lancashire bmd site
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

There is also 8 marriages for the name Stredder on the Cheshire bmd site

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

Catherine   :)
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 30 March 04 10:53 BST (UK)
Hi! Chris

Wondered if St. Marys Church in Rostherne is on it. Looking for Michael Rustage marriage to Fanny Boond on the 03/08/1819. Any details would be much appreciated.

Catherine  :)
Hi Catherine
checked the Bertram Merrell Index and it shows the marriage only as you describe with no further info.Sorry
peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Catherine on Tuesday 30 March 04 11:35 BST (UK)
Hi! Peter

Thank you so much for checking this up for me, again very much appreciated.

Catherine   :)
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 30 March 04 12:13 BST (UK)
Goodness, why didn't they allow the Cheshire records to be on the IGI?

Another probably Cheshire marriage that's caused a stumbling block: Stredder m. Sparks.  I am looking for a marriage Birkenhead and Bebbington way between William (Smith) Stredder and Margaret Sparks probably in the later 1830s.  (They had a son George Alfred Stredder, and daughters Alice Ann Stredder and Amelia Stredder who were both born and married in the 1860s Birkenhead and Bebington areas.  Other children later born in Liverpool and Bolton.)

Other Stredder and Sparks references gratefully received,

With thanks

Fiona
Hi Fiona
I have checked my Cheshire index (Bertram Merrel)this shows no Stredder marriages at either Birkenhead St. Mary or Bebbington St Andrews up to 1837
peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: FAB Fiona on Tuesday 30 March 04 23:10 BST (UK)
Hi Catherine

Thank you for the pointers to the BMD sites.  I browse them thoroughly every time they are updated.  And I have gone back and forth at 1837online.  

Although I have found some children to William Smith Stredder and Margaret Sparks in Birkenhead/Tranmere/Bebington/Liverpool, I have not found their own marriage nor the birth of George Alfred Stredder who appears to be their eldest son.  I have found the 1841 marriage of a George Smith Stredder in Manchester who may be a brother to William and the certificate is on order.  In the 1881 census, Margaret says she is from Slorton, Cheshire.

Fiona
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Catherine on Wednesday 31 March 04 07:21 BST (UK)
Hi! Fiona

Think one of the problems is that although the St. Catherines Index of birth marriages and deaths started in 1837 to the present day, it was not made complusory to register until 1875, where upon people were fined for not registering.
So we still have to rely on church records at times.

Good luck

Catherine  :)
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: FindingAncestors on Wednesday 31 March 04 09:39 BST (UK)
Hi ,
         I don't have the death cert as yet, decided to send for last will and testament instead before sending for death cert. Will just says Thomas Langford of Mollington, Shoemaker, he died 9th June 1847. In a search of the Cheshire BMD I think I found his death, Thomas Langford age 60 Sub District Chester Cathedral, Register's at Cheshire West   CAT/10/20.   Possible informant could have been his wife Ann, or either son Robert or John. I'm sorry I don't have more. In the 1851 census his wife/widow and son John were living at 5 Parkgate St "Everwood Cottage", and living next door, John's brother Robert and wife. Hope this is of some help.  Thank you.
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: sally on Saturday 03 April 04 21:59 BST (UK)
If the Parish Records go back to 1650 would you please check for the name John Adsit? I think he may have lived at Disley. The name is not to be confused with Adshead, which I believe came later.
Thank you,
Sally
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 04 April 04 11:18 BST (UK)
If the Parish Records go back to 1650 would you please check for the name John Adsit? I think he may have lived at Disley. The name is not to be confused with Adshead, which I believe came later.
Thank you,
Sally
Hi Sally
I have searched 2 indexes of Cheshire both have different spelling for the name Adsit
the attachment below gives you all the results take your pick.
peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: sally on Sunday 04 April 04 14:33 BST (UK)
Peter,
Thank you so much for the information. I'm sure the spelling will not be a problem. I have found 42 variatiions of the name here in the States.
Sally
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Fifer on Sunday 04 April 04 17:17 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
Could you look up the following for me to see if you have any  of them


James Hatton/Sarah?
There first child was born in 1811 in Westkirby so hoping they may have been married in the couple of years leading up to this date.Havent been able to trace surname of Sarah.


Could you also lookup the Death of a Joseph Hatton Died 1891 West kirby
he was aged 48-9
Hope you can help


Angela
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 05 April 04 12:17 BST (UK)
RE James Hatton and Sarah
Hi
my index shows no records for James and Sarah at all at St.Bridgets West Kirby.
there is also St. Andrews for which I have no index.
As for Joseph,yes the http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ shows his death registered in the district of Woodchurch aged 45 in 1891
Don't hesitate to post if you require any more details
peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Fifer on Wednesday 07 April 04 19:11 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Thanks for that lookup something maycome up eventuallyl


thanks again


Angela
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: lidgett on Friday 16 April 04 01:03 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Looking for the marriage of John Lidgett(Lydgett) to a Mary around 1810 in or around Hargrave,Huxley, or possibly as far as Nantwich.  Any chance?
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 16 April 04 15:56 BST (UK)
Hi,
A search of the Bertram Merrell Index shows :
John Lidgett married Mary Billington on the 3/7/1809
( he a blacksmith )
A soundex search reveals several Lidgett's and variations of the name marrying in the same area at dates from 1696-1836. these are listed below.
regards
peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: lidgett on Friday 16 April 04 22:37 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Thanks for your prompt reply, no less than 6 Lidgett names recognised.  The John married 1809 is the son of Robert the Blacksmith died Bickley 1835.  What I need now is to know if he was the father of the John who married Elizabeth Leach 1836.  His parents also John and Mary.  These are my 2Gt Grandparents.  Any one help?

Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 17 April 04 12:43 BST (UK)
Hi
Sorry I do not know how you can proceed further without seeing the parish birth records, kept at Cheshire Records office, unfortunatly I do not have copies.
Maybe someone can suggest something else?
Good hunting
peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Wednesday 21 April 04 16:51 BST (UK)
PeterBennett

Hi there Peter

Congratulations on being made a Global Moderator

The 'Cheshire Board' can only go from strength to strength with numerous benefits to Rootschat members by having input from yourself.

Once again

Well Done

Chris in 1066Land
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: kelly on Friday 14 May 04 08:07 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

I really would appreciate any help you can give me with my research. I'm looking for the marriage of GGG grandfather in Cheshire:-

William Francis CRANE (b. circa 1784) to Elizabeth ? (b. circa 1788). I'm surmising that the wedding may be been circa 1808-13 and possibly at Holy Trinity, Chester (all their children were baptised there from 1813 onwards.)

Yours hopefully

Dorothy ::)
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: June Thompson on Saturday 15 May 04 17:36 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

I would really appreciate it if you could look to see if you have any of my MULLINER baptisms at Wybunbury
1824-1848 in particular Richard Mulliner born abt.1836/7
Many thanks.
June
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: judith 4 on Saturday 15 May 04 17:36 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Don't know if you can help me, I am trying to find out the parents of my GGG Grandfather Joseph Ankers born approx 1837 Hargrave his father was William but I cannot find out his mothers name up to now, also his wife Catherine Ann Quin her father was John but have not been able to find out her mothers name, she was born in Parkgate around 1837.  Any help would be appreciated Thanks Judith
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 16 May 04 12:01 BST (UK)
Hi Judith
      Both Joseph and Catherine have birth records showing on the Cheshire BMD site from there you can get the application for birth certificates, these will give you the mothers details you are looking for.
       http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
     I have searched the marriage index and found a likely pairing of William Ankers and Mary Hopley (Malpas ) married
Hargrave St. Peters in 1835, of course this could would be proved by the birth certs.
    The marriage index I have is not complete but without both names it is even more difficult.
Hope this helps

peterbennett
     
   
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 16 May 04 12:06 BST (UK)
Hi June

         The index that I have only contains marriages so don't think there is any way we can help at the moment.

peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 16 May 04 12:15 BST (UK)
Hi Dorothy,
        I have searched the index and not found a William Crane with Elizabeth. Have tried all districts and variations of spellings without luck.
      As the index is not complete it does not mean they didn't marry at Chester, but I think a visit to Cheshire record office at Chester may be called for, if you are in the area.

peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records/Crane
Post by: kelly on Sunday 16 May 04 12:42 BST (UK)
Many thanks for looking, Peter.  I will try to get to Chester Records office to find them!

Kind Regards
Dorothy
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: judith 4 on Sunday 16 May 04 17:36 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Thanks for your quick reply,  I feel such an idiot and other words to that effect, just double checked the marriage certificate of Joseph and Catherine and their birth years would be 1835 and 1834 so the bith certificates in the Chesire BMD cannot be theirs, plus which Catherine was born in Parkgate.

I am actually visiting the Cheshire records office in a couple of weeks so hopefully I will be able to find out more information.  Thanks again Judith
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Fifer on Sunday 16 May 04 21:06 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
could you search for any Fishwicks for me for the parsish of Westkirby,Meols,Caldy, etc upto 1840
thankyou

Angela
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: stretchie on Sunday 16 May 04 23:33 BST (UK)
 :D

Hi Chris,

Are there any STRETCH's with a TARPORLEY connection on your CD.  Having problems with this line.

JOSEPH SAMUEL STRETCH born 1857 Grappenhall married ANN EDITH DAVENPORT b.1860 from TARPORLEY in 1879.
His address at the time of the marrriage just says CHESTER.

ANN EDITH STRETCH died in 1886 and JOSEPH married someone called MARY b.1860 also from TARPORLEY.
They had a son on the 1901 Census;JOSEPH b.1896

JOSEPH SAMUEL STRETCH was a 22 year old Widower when he re-married in 1879 - who was his first Wife???

Can you help?
Stretchie.
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 17 May 04 12:55 BST (UK)
Hi
   Sorry can't help this time.
   The parish marriage index that I have does not show any marriages after 1850.
   The CheshireBMD does show 2 marriages prior to 1879 that might fit with your Joseph Stretch, one a Sarah Ellen Buckley 1873 and a Betsy R Stoddard 1785, but cannot find a death record that fits for these.
Sorry

peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 17 May 04 14:41 BST (UK)
Hi Angela (fifer)

    The marriage index I have has records for St. Bridgets West Kirby from 1560-1837 and shows the following for the name Fishwick.
1) 3/6/1813 Ann to Joseph Jones
2) 3/6/1819 Ann to Joseph Jones (by licence )
 Sorry I cant explain why there are two referenses unless the Bishops transcipts were wrongly written up.

peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Fifer on Monday 17 May 04 15:21 BST (UK)
Hi Peter
Did you say Fisher by Mistake is it Fishwick or have you looked up the wrong name  :)


Angela(Fifer)
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 17 May 04 15:35 BST (UK)
Hi Angela
    Yes it is a mistake I should have typed Fishwick
Sorry getting a flustered must be the weather

peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 23 May 04 11:34 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Don't know if you can help me, I am trying to find out the parents of my GGG Grandfather Joseph Ankers born approx 1837 Hargrave his father was William but I cannot find out his mothers name up to now, also his wife Catherine Ann Quin her father was John but have not been able to find out her mothers name, she was born in Parkgate around 1837.  Any help would be appreciated Thanks Judith

Hi Judith
     I will be doing some searching this week, could you tell me where your Joseph and Catherine married.
     Could you let me have the details from the earliest census return you have for them.
    Unless of course you have already cracked it.

peterbennett  
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: judith 4 on Sunday 23 May 04 16:06 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

No I havent cracked it as yet.

Here are the details on the marriage certificate, Joseph Ankers 21 Bachelor, Labourer Bridge St Chester Father William Ankers Shoemaker.

Catherine Quin Bridge St, Spinster, Bridge St, Father John Quin Joiner.  Marriage Date Sept 1 1856 St Mary Chester.

I found them on the 1881 Census, they are living there with there children it was the name of Kezia that helped me as my father remembers going to her home for tea when he was a child.

Not found them anywhere else as I have been unable to look at any other census.
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Chris Cherry on Wednesday 26 May 04 17:03 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
I would be grateful if you could offer any help on the following:
William Dooley B: 29 Jun 1862 at 4 Livingston St Birkenhead. Father John Dooley Boilermaker journeyman, Mother Alice Fielding. I am trying to find the marriage of John & Alice but it is possible they came from Ireland.  Also, William married Mary Ann Smith, she was born 1865 Bedminster Bristol, but I don't know where they married, although some children were born Liverpool.

Many thanks Chris
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 27 May 04 10:32 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

          With regards to the Mary and William marriage
can you give me an idea of where you have searched upto now. I did find them on the 1891 census living in Liverpool with no children, If the couple were married and its a possibility that they didn't , it would be best to work backwards from 18891, or from the birthdate of there first child if born before 1891 using the GRO index of BMD's.
          I have very little knowledge of Irish family history, but there are some very good people who I am sure would point you in the right direction to finding John and Alice, may I suggest that you post again to the common room headed lookup/how to ? Irish birth.

peterbennett
     
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 27 May 04 14:33 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

No I havent cracked it as yet.

Here are the details on the marriage certificate, Joseph Ankers 21 Bachelor, Labourer Bridge St Chester Father William Ankers Shoemaker.

Catherine Quin Bridge St, Spinster, Bridge St, Father John Quin Joiner.  Marriage Date Sept 1 1856 St Mary Chester.

I found them on the 1881 Census, they are living there with there children it was the name of Kezia that helped me as my father remembers going to her home for tea when he was a child.

Not found them anywhere else as I have been unable to look at any other census.

Hi Judith
            According to the IGI parish records (not complete ) there are two possibles for Joseph born around 1835 in Hargrave but neither have a William as father. the reason for mentioning this should become clear further on.

      In the 1881 census which you have, states Joseph 43 b Hargrave living with family in the township of Foulk Stapleford,
      As yet I dont have details of or access to the 71 or 61 census's.
So looking for Joseph on the 1851, I found on
folio 206 HO107- 2171 Joseph Ankers 15 farm servant born Tattenhall , right or wrong ? no others found in the area.
    1851 HO 107-2171 folio 158 Hatton Heath Saighton
William Ankers  head 38 master shoe maker  b. Tattenhall
Mary       ~        wife  39                                  b. Malpas
Elizabeth  ~      daug  9        scholar               b. Hargreave
John         ~       son    7                                  b.   ~
Thomas    ~       son    3                                  b.   ~
Emma       ~      daug   6 months                     b. Saighton

It would seem that this family lived in Hargreave at least as far back as 1842. There were no other William Ankers in the area.

1841 census HO107-90-32 folio 7 Foulk Stapleford

William Ankers  28  occupation unreadable  born in county
Mary        ~       28                                            ~        ~
George    ~       10                                            ~        ~
Sarah      ~         5                                            ~        ~
Joseph    ~         3                                            ~        ~
Samuel    ~        1                                             ~        ~

No other William and Mary Ankers found in the area.
If this is your Joseph born c 1837 then there should be a ref on the Cheshire BMD and yes there are two born in same year 1837 both in Tattenhall. these should be investigated in order to confirm parentage.
The IGI SEARCH shows as mentioned 2 Josephs
1) christoning July 9 1937 Father George Mother Mary
2)          ~       Aug    1935    ~      Richard   ~       Ann

These obviously because of the differant parents are not your Joseph but they do serve to complicate things on census's.

Without the 1861 and 1871 census's it is difficult to follow things through with any certainty.

Hope you can make some sense of it all, if not let me know.
will get back later with info on Catherine Quinn.

regards

peterbennett

Hi Judith                         29/5/04

  Just found another Ankers family living in Chester 1841, it might or might not be one of yours, but thought I had better not leave it ,you never know.

HO 107-130-7 folio 5 St. Anns Street St.Oswalds Parish Chester

Joseph Ankers   35    occupation ?          born in county
Elizabeth   ~      35                         not      ~         ~
Selina        ~      13                          ~        ~         ~
Emma        ~      11                          ~        ~         ~
Charles     ~         9                                    ~         ~
Nathaniel  ~         7                                    ~         ~
William      ~         5                                    ~         ~

peterbennett
 
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: judith 4 on Thursday 27 May 04 16:32 BST (UK)
Thank you Peter for all your help, I will get back to you as soon as I can find out anymore info.
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: lidgett on Thursday 27 May 04 23:15 BST (UK)
Peterbennett

Hi Peter

Can you look on the census records you have for 1841/1851 for Hargrave and Huxley for John Lidgett b1812 (wife Elizabeth) for details of their children.  I only know of Jonathan b 1839 and Charles b1842.  Only Jonathan appears on IGI, Charles is my GT Grandfather.

Thanks

Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 28 May 04 10:22 BST (UK)

Hi Judith
 here is the 1841 census details for John Quinn Parkgate Gt.Neston
HO 107-125-5 folio 11

John               head 40   born Ireland
Jane               wife   45    ~     in county
Benjamin        son    15    ~          ~
Henry             ~        12   ~           ~
Eliza               daug    0    ~           ~

no Catherine Ann.

The 1851 census shows for Parkgate road Gt.Neston
HO 107-2173-folio 95

John Quinn   head   50    ag/lab    born   Ireland
Jane    ~       wife    55                    ~      Neston Cheshire

again no Catherine Ann

I did think it may be the wrong family so
I did a search of the 1851 census of Chester and surrounding districts with again no sign of Catherine Ann.

Angela (fifer) searched the Neston area 1851 for me, again no Catherine Ann.

I will keep a lookout for the missing one.

regards

peterbennett

Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Chris Cherry on Friday 28 May 04 18:21 BST (UK)
Hi Peter
Many thanks for your reply.  I have looked on 1837 online, back from 1891 when first child (that I know of) was born, but no joy.  I suppose it is possible they didn't marry, although Williams birth cert gives mother as Mary Ann Dooley formerly Smith.  Maybe she was telling fibs!!

Anyway, thanks for trying
Chris
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 29 May 04 12:42 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
           
          Were they or wern't they ? I had expieriance of the same thing with a family member of mine ,back in 1891 census they were Mr and Mrs Bennett, and Mr and Mrs Bennett again in 1901 census having had four children in between. I eventualy found there marriage in 1906!!
So it seems they were not the only ones.

peterbennett    
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 29 May 04 16:45 BST (UK)
Peterbennett

Hi Peter

Can you look on the census records you have for 1841/1851 for Hargrave and Huxley for John Lidgett b1812 (wife Elizabeth) for details of their children.  I only know of Jonathan b 1839 and Charles b1842.  Only Jonathan appears on IGI, Charles is my GT Grandfather.

Thanks



Hi Mr or Mrs Lidgett

    Have found the following in the 1841 and 1851 census's.
There are a couple of bonus ones I came across, may not be yours but didn't like to ignore them.

1841 HO 107-90-38 folio 4   Huxley

John Lidgett    25      ag/lab                  born in county
Betty               25                                    ~         ~
Johnathon       1                                      ~         ~
Charles            2 months                         ~         ~

1851  HO 107-2171 folio 171  Huxley  Waverton Parish

John Lidgett  head  39  farm lab             Huxley Ches
Elizabeth       wife   35  labourers wife   Waverton Ches
Johnathon     son    11  scholar                 ~             ~
Charles           ~       9     ~                        ~             ~
Samuel Dutton lodger wdr 61  chair bottomer  Waverton Ches
     ~         ~        ~      unm 26  shoe maker         ~              ~

These are a bonus.

1841  HO 107-130-1 folio 5  St.Oswalds parish Chester

John Lidgett   50  b/smith             born in county
Mary   ~          50                              ~        ~
William           10                               ~        ~

1851  HO 107-2172 folio 38 Northgate St. St.Oswalds parish

Martha Lidgett  head mar  30                              born    Chester
Thomas    ~       son   u     14  errand boy             ~           ~
Ann          ~      daug           2                                ~           ~
Thomas Davies  visitor       16  shop boy               ~           ~

If I come across any more I'll let you know

regards

peterbennett




   
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: judith 4 on Saturday 29 May 04 18:37 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

I feel so close to finding her yet so far away.  I am going to the Cheshire Archives Office on Wednesday don't know wether or not it will help me, as it is the first time I will have been, I am hoping I won't get too easily distracted, once again thanks for all your time and effort also to Angela.

Judith
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: lidgett on Sunday 30 May 04 00:23 BST (UK)
Peterbennett

Hi Peter

Many thanks for the census records.  I found it hard to believe there were only 2 offspring of John and Elizabeth.  John and Mary are also of interest as I think they are John's parents, Martha is a new one to me and needs further research.

Thanks again

Lidgett(Mrs)
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 05 June 04 16:33 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

I feel so close to finding her yet so far away.  I am going to the Cheshire Archives Office on Wednesday don't know wether or not it will help me, as it is the first time I will have been, I am hoping I won't get too easily distracted, once again thanks for all your time and effort also to Angela.

Judith

P Message 5th June 04
Hi Peter
Went to the records office on Wednesday, managed to confirm Josephs father as being William and his Mother as being Mary and found his brothers and sisters, which was fantastic.  Now need to see if I can find Marys maiden name.

I couldn't find Catherine Ann Quin on any census or a record of her birth, really frustrating but I have decided to go back again and try, as I might have missed something.  It does look like the family you found John and Jane Quin could be her Mother and Father but I wonder where Catherine could have been?  I shall hopefully be a bit more organised the next time I visit as at one point I found myself looking at a microfilm I had already looked at!
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Hi Judith

            Well done with your finds. The records office can be a bit daunting first time, its about 20 years now since I last went to Chester, It was a not as busy in them days. Being disabled I rely on my sister if I need anything from there.

Anyway getting down to bussiness I have on my marriage index the following Index

27/1/1835 at St. Peters Hargrave parish of Tarvin

William Ankers (Tattenhall ) married Mary Hopley ( Malpas )
married by banns. It may be worth a look, although son George would have been 3 years old by then, so maybe not. But there again you never no !

info on St. Peters

Hargrave, St. Peter (C of E). A chapelry in Tarvin parish, a separate parish from 1878 comprising the townships of Foulk Stapleford and Huxley. Registers of baptisms 1744-1883, marriages 1746-49 and burials 1744-1813 are at the CRO. Registers of marriages from 1841 are at the church. Bishop's Transcripts 1632-1889 are at the CRO. Memorial inscriptions have been published by the FHS of Cheshire.
It would be the Bishops transcripts you need to veiw

good luck

peterbennett
 





Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: judith 4 on Sunday 06 June 04 06:59 BST (UK)
Thank you again Peter for all your help, I am hoping to go to the CRO again in July, so I will take a look at those transcripts and keep you posted on how I get on.

Take Care Judith
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Fifer on Sunday 06 June 04 20:40 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
Could you look up the following for me in the parish records.


Samuel Roscoe born app 1820 Neston

He married Elizabeth Jones in 1845 at st Mary'sSt Helens Neston Cheshire West

there Daughter Elizabeth Was born in 1850/51 Neston
Havent been able to trace Samuel and Elizabeth on the 1851 Census for Neston

Elizabeth Jones Remarried  a Joseph Roscoe in 1861-1865 Birkenhead Possible brother of Samuel i havent been able to trace a death for Samuel yet and havent been able to find out who his Parents are

Hope you can help trace his Death and His Parents


Fifer
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 07 June 04 12:30 BST (UK)
Hi Fifer
         Sorry but the index only covers marriages, and is not complete for Neston, the only marriage I found was
1808 EDWARD ROSCOE TO ANNE HUGHES at ST. MARY HELEN.
I searched the 1841 for Willaston/Neston unfortunatly there is no index, (pages only) and only about 20% is readable. So he could have been there but I cant see him.

sorry

peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: kiwi on Saturday 26 June 04 03:06 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

I would like to take advantage of your offer of a lookup for Cheshire marriages.

This time I am looking for John Bolland living in Tarporely in about 1818, his son Joseph was born there.( this is from the 1851 Liverpool census)  

With any luck it may have been his home town and John may have married there, the only other piece of information I have is that John was listed as a farmer on Josephs wedding certificate in 1841.

Many thanks ,
Kiwi.
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 26 June 04 16:01 BST (UK)
Hi Kiwi

         I have searched the parish index for Tarporley
and found no Bolland (or variations of) marriages.
Only 3 John Bolland found around that area at about that time.
1) marrying Elizabeth Davies at Nantwich 1808 he a surgeon
2)        ~     Sarah Faulkner at Waverton 1810 he from Tarvin
3)        ~     Elizabeth Evans at Chester St. John 1819

I then looked on the 1841 census for Tarporley and found
a likely family

  HO 107 96-33  folio 13 Tarporley

John Boland        60      ag lab         born in county
Elizabeth Boland 60                           ~    ~     ~
Sarah Boland      30                   not   ~    ~     ~
Clara  Boland       5                      ~    ~    ~     ~

This family I could not find in the 1851 census
but did find two other Bollands living in the next village a James and family and a Benjamin.
I have printed off the census pages and will email to you if required, please let me have your email address by private message.
Does the wedding cert. give the names of witnesses who may have been related ??

regards

peterbennett


Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: cheshirecat on Saturday 26 June 04 16:21 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have been researching my ALDCROFT family from Cheshire for some time now. I have now got back before civil registration and need to look at parish records and have thought about getting the Cheshire Parish Records CD but am not sure how useful it would be to me.

Could you please try and look up my ggg grandfather John Aldcroft who I believe was born around 1796 and married Mary I presume before civil records began? I believe he would come under the parish of St Mary's, Bowden as most of the family records I have refer to New Chester, Sale.

Is there only one "Cheshire Parish Records" CD and who publlished it.

Thank you for your help.

Cheshirecat :)
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 26 June 04 17:00 BST (UK)
Hi Cheshirecat
                     There are about 10 marriages at Bowden for the Aldcroft family but no John.
                     Can you paste in the details from the earliest census you have for John and family I may be able to trace them back.
                   The only near complete Cheshire parish records that have been published is the Bertram Merral marriage index. Which is the one I use. There are several indexes of individual townships dotted about the net and also the Philmores Cheshire marriage index which is a partial index coverering mainly east Cheshire.
              If there is any info you need at any time please post on this site there are lots of people willing to help.

peterbennett
         
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: cheshirecat on Saturday 26 June 04 17:17 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

I do have the Bertram Merrell Marriage Index myself and I couldn't find John either! That is why I wanted to know if there was any more info on the parish records.  Below is the information I have from the 1841 census

1841 Census H0107/91/5/Folio 9
Township: Sale(Parish of Ashton-upon-Mersey)
Address: New Chester
 
John Aldcroft   40   Gardener            
Mary            40         
William         20            
Anne            15            
Thomas        15               
James          12            
John            10                     
Joshua        12             
Samuel         5               
Martha         2      

Thank you for your help!

         
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 26 June 04 18:24 BST (UK)
Hi
   Having looked at the marriages for your Aldcrofts it seems odd that John and Mary are not at Bowden or any other church in the area. There can only be two reasons
1 ) they have been missed of the bishops transcipts, not unusual
2 ) they didn't marry, or married out of Cheshire which does not make sense, sorry thats 3.
  It looks like a visit to the Cheshire RO at Chester is the next step.

sorry not much help am I.

peterbennett
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: cheshirecat on Saturday 26 June 04 19:21 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

Well thanks for trying anyway!   Maybe the BM index is not that complete.  Unfortunately Chester is quite a long way away for me.

Do you know what happened to the Cheshire parish record transcription project that I think was being organised by somebody at Manchester Uni?  

Regards,

Cheshirecat
Title: Re:Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: magbett on Wednesday 07 July 04 04:39 BST (UK)
Gould ....possibly All Saints Church

Searching for Cheshire family history ....family lived in both Stockport and Great Longstone

1- In particular, am trying to find birthplace and antecedents of George Gould born about 1771...living in Stockport in 1830's-40's ...possibly 1820's also..died there in 1849 though buried in Great Longstone 12/23/1849...age listed as 78.   Need to find if listed in 1841 Stockport census or parish register ...two grandsons christened in Stockport ...(see below -William christened Dec 1 1833 Stockport by Rev C Prescott  ...George Jr and Mary's residence Newbridge Lane)
 
George Gould (Senior) married Martha Hulley (born@1781 Great Longstone) in 1801 Bakewell ....lived for about 20 years in Great Longstone ...not found in 1841 GL census so may be in Stockport 1841 census since 1849 death record lists Stockport as abode ...widow apparently then moved to Great Longstone to live with son George Jr.  She died there in 1851 at 69.
 
 
2-George Gould Jr born 1808 in Great Longstone ...married Mary Waterhouse 1833 Cathedral Manchester.  Son William baptized Dec 1, 1833
Parish Church Stockport (would this be All Saints?) ...by Rev C. K. Prescott ...lived on Newbridge Lane...occupation cordwainer/shoemaker
 
Son John also born in Stockport ...apparently George Jr and Mary moved back to Great Longstone probably late 1830's ...were in 1841 census Great Longstone, living on Main St...George listed as shoemaker then as  cordwainer in 1851 census.  Mary died 1860 age 48; George Jr died 1882 ...age 74
 
Known Children of George Sr and Martha. Hulley Gould.. all born in Great Longstone: Mary (died as infant); John; Isaac (believe died in childhood); George; James; Martha; William; Thomas; Anne
 
Known Children of George Jr & Mary Waterhouse Gould...born in Stockport: William T. (emigrated to US); John;   following born in Great Longstone:Elizabeth; Joseph; Thomas; Anna or Hannah; Harriett (who was living with George Jr at time of his death ... Harriett had married J.  Nadin)

Possibly some of George Sr children and grandchildren moved back to Stockport for most left Great Longstone in adult years only George Jr and his brother John stayed in GL.

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: lidgett on Thursday 08 July 04 23:41 BST (UK)
Dear Peter

Having been so helpful with my Lidgetts, and thanks again for that, could you help on the other side of the family ie   Furber and Boote.  Eliza Furber b 1821 in Audlem married Stephen Boote bc1819 in Bickerton I have their marriage cert 1846 in Manchester cathedral dist.  Fathers are Sambrook Furber, butcher and John Boote, labourer.  Stephen and Eliza later lived in Tattenhall and I have lots of info from there down but am unable to trace the parents.  I did find Thomas Furber Eliza's brother also in Audlem in 1847 when his son Sambrook died.  Any chance you can find marriage records for either Sambrook or John or early census records?

Cheers

Lidgett

1841 census records found for John Boote in Bickerton Cheshire
1851   ~           ~          ~      ~    ~       ~    ~      ~~        ~

1841   ~           ~          ~      ~ Sambrook Furber Audlam Cheshire
1851   ~           ~          ~      ~        ~          ~      Dodcot cum Wilkesley

details sent by email

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: marine105 on Friday 09 July 04 12:25 BST (UK)
I'd be grateful for any Cheshire Marriages with a male CORKER, at any date before 1740.
Regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 10 July 04 16:36 BST (UK)
I'd be grateful for any Cheshire Marriages with a male CORKER, at any date before 1740.
Regards,
Chris

Hi Chris
             Here are the names as you required pre 1740's

10 jan      1707 Joseph------Mary Gamull       St. James Audlem
07 sept    1708 Samuel----- Maria Tagg         St. Mary's Acton
                1712 Gulichmus--Maria Williamson St Bartholomews
 Church Minshall
15 jun     1713  Henry------Mary Key ( licence ) Sts. Mary & Nicholas Nantwich
30 dec     1715 Thomas----Elizabeth Moore St. Oswald Lower Peover
11 jan     1727 Thomas----Elizabeth Holm   Wistaston
31 oct     1731 Nathanial--Mary Langley   Sts. Mary & Nicholas Nantwich
27 jan     1738 James----- Margerat Kirkham St. Mary Gt. Budworth

regards

peterbennett
                 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Mable on Friday 16 July 04 14:50 BST (UK)
Hi,
I am looking for a birth of a William Swift abt.1856 and Sarah Ann Swift abt 1858 Father Charles Mother Harriet I think in Coppeshall also trying to find marriage of Charles Swift / Harriet Harvey before the 1851 Census.
Thank you for your help.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: cheshirecat on Friday 16 July 04 15:10 BST (UK)
Peter,

Can you tell me which church would be the local one to Sale in 1800. It seems most of them did not exist then and I am getting very confused between the various old parishes.

I have found a marriage on the IGI index that mentions St Mary's Manchester. Would this be the same as St Mary's Bowden?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 16 July 04 15:12 BST (UK)
Hi Mable
             Not sure there is a place called Coppeshall in Cheshire, did you mean Coppenhall ? if so then there are two, one in Staffordshire and Monks Coppenhall Nr. Crewe in Cheshire.

All the BMD records for Cheshire after 1837 can be found on this link

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

Also the same for some areas of Staffordshire I am not sure if Coppenhall as been indexed as yet

http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/

If you need any further help then please reply.

regards

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 16 July 04 15:31 BST (UK)
Peter,

Can you tell me which church would be the local one to Sale in 1800. It seems most of them did not exist then and I am getting very confused between the various old parishes.

I have found a marriage on the IGI index that mentions St Mary's Manchester. Would this be the same as St Mary's Bowden?

Hi
    St. Mary's Manchester was not associated with St. Mary's Bowden.
If your looking for Sale prior to 1840 ish it was a township in the parish of "Ashton upon Mersey, St. Martin (C of E), Church Lane. An ancient parish, comprising most of the township of Ashton upon Mersey, and the whole of Sale township. Registers of baptisms 1636-1960, marriages 1636-1947 and burials 1636-1939 are at the CRO. Bishop's transcripts survive from 1605. Memorial inscriptions have been published by the FHS of Cheshire."
The above is a quote from Genuki.
I believe a small section of A-u-M was in the parish of Bowden but if its Sale your after then I would plump for St Martins.

good luck and don't forget where we are if you need any further help.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: cheshirecat on Saturday 17 July 04 17:22 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

Once again many thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Rossini on Tuesday 20 July 04 16:35 BST (UK)
Hello Chris,

Wonder if your Cheshire disk might have details of the birth of a William Lamb circa 1805.  He was born somewhere called Tabley, Cheshire (which I think is near Knutsford).

If it has marriages, I'd be also be interested to know the surname of the lady called Jane that he married sometime between 1825-29.

Best wishes,

Gordon.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 20 July 04 17:54 BST (UK)
Hi Gordon
              Sorry the index is marriages only, and there is no record of a marriage for William Lamb, tried various spellings.
             Do you have early census records ? If not I may be able to help if they were in Cheshire.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Rossini on Tuesday 20 July 04 20:01 BST (UK)
Hello Peter,

Very much appreciate the offer. Only info I have is from '71 census of Barton upon Irwell, Salford which shows William 66, a gardener, born Tabley Cheshire and wife Jane 73 born Chesterfield Derbyshire.  He probably never returned to Cheshire.

But thank you for your help,

Gordon.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: kalimonster on Wednesday 21 July 04 16:25 BST (UK)
Hello Chris,

I wanted to ask if you could look up the following Birth for me.

Phoebe Lowndes born about 1776 believed to be in INCE, Cheshire.

Thank you for your time.

Kalimonster
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 21 July 04 16:55 BST (UK)
Hi Kalimonster
  Sorry the index I have is marriages only, there is a ref on the IGI but suspect you have seen it. I do not know of an on line ref for this parishes records
 It looks like a trip to the Cheshire records office is called for

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 21 July 04 17:41 BST (UK)
Hello Peter,

Very much appreciate the offer. Only info I have is from '71 census of Barton upon Irwell, Salford which shows William 66, a gardener, born Tabley Cheshire and wife Jane 73 born Chesterfield Derbyshire.  He probably never returned to Cheshire.

But thank you for your help,

Gordon.

Hi Gordon
              I have searched the 1841 and 1851 census's of Cheshire without finding William. It seems he must have left Cheshire earlier.

sorry

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Rossini on Thursday 22 July 04 11:39 BST (UK)
Once again many thanks, Peter.  Looks like I'll have to direct my searches towards the Salford area now.

Kind regards,

Gordon
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Evelyn on Saturday 24 July 04 15:59 BST (UK)
Hi Chris, I am new to this forum so I hope that I am using the correct format to ask a question.  I am researching lots of branches of my family tree but at present am concentrating on the "Daniel" branch. I have got back to the early 1800's but have come unstuck with a lack of details on certain documents.  Specifically I am trying to find out who were the parents of Isaiah Daniel of Norbury Hazel Grove, Stockport and where did they come from.  From library records I know he married Ann Williamson at St Mary's church, Cheadle on 6th November 1821.  But that is all it tells me.  I do not know where to look for any other details about him.  I know they were methodists of Welsh extraction.  The family were coalminers.  Can you offer any advise?  Thanks Evelyn   
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 24 July 04 18:29 BST (UK)
Hi Evelyn
              Welcome to rootschat, from what I can see you have managed to do very well up now, before I go over ground that you may have allready reseached can you tell me if you know that he was born Hazel Grove or elswhere , from early census records perhaps. What records have you searched at the Cheshire records office, if he was baptised at the
Hazel Grove (Bullock Smithy), Methodist Chapel (Wesleyan). Founded 1788. The registers 1794-1837 are at the CRO.
Sorry I have no info I can give you at the moment. please get back to us.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Andy James on Monday 09 August 04 09:48 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

thanks for the kind offer.

I'm looking for an elusive ancestor named Arthur GIBBON. Arthur was born (according to his marriage cert and the 1891/1901 censuses) in about 1854.

The 1901 census says he was born in Macclesfield and on one of his marriage certs he gives his father's name as Matthew GIBBON.

There is no record of Arthur's birth in the national BMD indexes (and to complicate matters, the 1891 census says he was born in Stoke, Staffordshire!)

Anything you could dig up from the Cheshire Parish Records would be fantastic and very much appreciated.

Regards

Andy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 09 August 04 10:58 BST (UK)
Hi Andy

I will see what I can find for you, although parish records index will not show any more than the national registration index. And with out knowing the parish he was born in its quite difficult
Can you give all the details from the 1891 census including wife and children. Do you have him on the 1881
           Can you give me a couple more facts from marriage cert

where and when and to who
what did his father do for a living

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Andy James on Monday 09 August 04 13:34 BST (UK)
Peter,

Thanks for your kind offer.

There is no record of Arthur Gibbon on the 1881 Census, and with not appearing in the national birth indexes either, he was very elusive for a while.

By the time of the 1891 Census he was living at 97 Olivia St, Bootle, Lancashire. The entry (as given to me) is:

Arthur Gibbon age 37 Tram car driver b. Staffordshire looks like Stoke
Elizabeth wife age 50 b. Salop Shrewsbury
Violet Parry, niece age 10 b Salop Westbury?
Sarah Parry. niece age 28? cook domestic, b. Salop Shrewsbury
William Jackson boarder age 43 ? driver b. Cumberland (can't make out the town.)

In 1901 Arthur and Elizabeth were resident at 45 Linacre Road, Bootle and had a son Arthur William Edward, who was born in 1892. (on this census record Arthur is listed as being 47 and born in Macclesfield, Cheshire and Elizabeth listed as being 36 and born in Shropshire).

The marriage was between Arthur Gibbon and Elizabeth Parry (I believe this to be the Elizabeth who appears on the census records – Elizabeth Gibbon nee Parry is listed as Arthur William’s mother on his birth cert). It took place in 1907, at West Derby Register Office (I’m afraid I don’t have access to all of my records at the moment, so can’t be more precise).

On the marriage cert, Arthur said that his father was a silk throwster.

Thanks again for anything you can find.

Regards

Andy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 09 August 04 17:47 BST (UK)
Hi Andy
           I think you need a medium to find Arthur prior to 1891!
I have searched all the census's in Macclesfield and there is no Arthur. There is in the 1851 Macclesfield a

Matthew Gibbon unwed farmer 39 HO 107 2159 F 60  ??

Of course its possible that his mother was unwed at the time of birth and Arthur was registered under another name, and only took the Gibbon name at some later date. I dont have acsess to Staffordshire records otherwise I would search the Stoke census.
The age of 50 for Elizabeth in 1891 does not ring true, I would be more inclined to lean towards the 26 and spend some time searching for her in the 1881. Can her age be confirmed approx from the marriage certificate ?
Arthur is definately not on any Cheshire census.

sorry I can't be any more help.

peterbennett  
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Andy James on Monday 09 August 04 19:54 BST (UK)
Peter,

thanks for your help. Arthur has been trouble since the start.  :)

I found a record that could be Elizabeth, on the 1881 census in Shropshire, but none of the Arthur Gibbon's make much sense.

It could be correct, the theory that Arthur's mother was unmarried, as there is some family folklore to this effect.

There is a Matthew Gibbon, unwed, aged 69 and from Macclesfield in in the 1881 census. It is quite intriguing, not to say tantalising to have him there.

Thanks again for all your help.

Regards

Andy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: sjsbc on Monday 30 August 04 21:03 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

I wonder if you can help. 

I am looking for a Maria Williams born approx 1842, Sutton Cheshire (according to 1881 census).

other information we have

Father - Robert Williams (from marriage certificate)
Sister - Harriet Williams born approx 1824 Parkgate Cheshire (from 1881 census)
I do not know of other siblings, however there may well be some as that is a big gap between Maria and Harriet

Hope you can help

Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 31 August 04 12:33 BST (UK)
Hi Sue
          Not quite so easy, there are six Suttons in Cheshire.
Can you post the details of the 1881 census so that I can trace her back. I take it she was married on the 1881 as I can't find her has Maria Williams. If so where was she married.?

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: sjsbc on Wednesday 01 September 04 22:12 BST (UK)
Thanks Peter,

On the 1881 she is listed as Maria Mayson born c1843 in Luton Cheshire, a mariners wife living in Everton Liverpool.

However, as there is no place Luton in Cheshire, we ordered a paper copy of the census and the place can be read clearly as Sutton.

Maria's marriage certificate (3/10/1872 St Philip's Church Liverpool) lists her father as Robert Williams, Farmer, and her age as "full".  She married Richard Mayson, mariner (another brick wall, but that's another story).

Her sister Harriett Williams is listed on the 1881 as age 56 born parkgate cheshire, living with her neice Alice Mayson (maria's daughter) a Sarah Jub (relationship other) who is seen on a later census with Maria's daughter Alice Maud Mayson.

We have only found Maria on the 1881 census.

Hope that gives you a little more to work on.

Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: nora T on Sunday 05 September 04 15:26 BST (UK)
hi chris, i think i am asking the impossable, but i am looking for any info on wiliam furnival, and or james furnival. they were the witnesses at   my brick walls wedding in 1784, that was james timmis/ catherine walker, but it is the furnivals i am after now ,  i am trying a bit of lateral thinking,thanks just in case, regards nora T
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 05 September 04 17:11 BST (UK)
hi chris, i think i am asking the impossable, but i am looking for any info on wiliam furnival, and or james furnival. they were the witnesses at   my brick walls wedding in 1784, that was james timmis/ catherine walker, but it is the furnivals i am after now ,  i am trying a bit of lateral thinking,thanks just in case, regards nora T

Hi Nora
            I have details of about 50 Furnival weddings in Cheshire but none involving a Timmis or a Walker can I suggest that as James and Catherine married in Stoke was it ? that you are more likely to find them in Staffs, sorry can't help with this one at the moment but will keep my eyes open.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: normah on Monday 06 September 04 09:49 BST (UK)
Hello Chris,

        Do you have any Arstall/Artingstall on your CD.

Cheers,  Norma.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 06 September 04 11:18 BST (UK)
Hello Chris,

        Do you have any Arstall/Artingstall on your CD.

Cheers,  Norma.

Hi Norma
              Its Peter really, Chris started this thread in the early days I seem to have taken over in the last few months. I think I answered your question in another post
http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10968.0

good try  :D

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: normah on Monday 06 September 04 22:33 BST (UK)
Hello Chris,

        Do you have any Arstall/Artingstall on your CD.

Cheers,  Norma.

Hi Norma
              Its Peter really, Chris started this thread in the early days I seem to have taken over in the last few months. I think I answered your question in another post
http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10968.0

good try  :D

peterbennett

Hello Peter,

        Well thanks again, it's helping me find my way around this site. :>)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Nick Carver on Saturday 11 September 04 20:59 BST (UK)
I have Hugh Berry born 1777 (and probably married) in Over Peover. I have no record of his wife. Also, his father Edward Berry was born in Great Budworth in 1730 but married a lady (again unknown) from Over Peover. Additionally, Edward's father Peter Berry was born in Great Budworth and may well have married there. Would it be possible to check the weddings oracle for these people? I would be very grateful for wives names and dates of marriages. In addition, given that both places were villages of under 400 people, it would be nice to know of any other Berrys in these parishes (siblings or forebears).

Many thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 12 September 04 12:54 BST (UK)
Hi Nick

            There are a great deal of Berry marriages in Cheshire but no Hugh sorry.
            As for the rest of the Berry marriages I would be willing to print them off and let you have them see PM

peterbennett
           
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: sjsbc on Tuesday 14 September 04 19:31 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

I guess my hunt for Maria Williams in Sutton is problematic.  Too many Williams and too many Suttons!

Would it be possible to find her sister instead.

Harriett Williams born Parkgate Cheshire in c1824 (calculated from 1881) or c1831 (calculated from 1871) She was a servant in 1871 and head of her own house in 1881, so I feel the 1881 date is likely to be more accurate.

I don't have any proof that she ever married, she was still single on the 1881 census at age 56.

Her father was Robert Williams (from her sister's marriage certificate).  He was a farmer.

Thanks

Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 15 September 04 10:57 BST (UK)
Hi Sue
            Problematic yes definatly
I have not forgot and have a list of Williams to search, I think from what you have said, that, the Williams family originated from the Pargate/Sutton area of the Wirral I have searched all the Suttons Cheshire in the 1851 census which is the only name (surname only ) indexed census before the 1871 with no luck, but there is no way of knowing when they moved to Liverpool. There are approx 700 individual census pages containing at least one Williams in the Wirral/Birkenhead area, and there is no index at all for the 1841.
There are only 2 Maria's born in Cheshire between 1840 and 1845 according to the Cheshire Bmd one in Altringham and one in Runcorn I have searched the 1851 and found both of these niether has a father named William, so although your Maria states she was born Sutton Cheshire she was not registered there ??

sorry for the negative reply but I feel that a search of the 1861 Liverpool and backwards from there is your best option

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: sjsbc on Wednesday 15 September 04 17:00 BST (UK)
Peter,

Thank you very much for your time and effort.  I will follow back the Liverpool census and continue the hunt!

Thanks

Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jackie s-o-t on Wednesday 22 September 04 17:31 BST (UK)
hi peter,

hope i've done this right could you please look for a birth for me,

thomas wakefield born about 1830 odd rode cheshire, sorry dont have any parents to offer you, LDS, gave date but no more info,

all the best,

jackie.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 23 September 04 12:39 BST (UK)
hi peter,

hope i've done this right could you please look for a birth for me,

thomas wakefield born about 1830 odd rode cheshire, sorry dont have any parents to offer you, LDS, gave date but no more info,

all the best,

jackie.

Hi Jackie
             Yes you have done it right, unfortunatly the records index I have is for marriages only, so I had a look for him in the 1841 census and found him in Hall Green Odd Rode (see scan if you have any problems reading it let me know )

regards

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jrob on Thursday 23 September 04 15:52 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
           I have a baptism at St.Mary's ,Halton for a William Jackson 30/12/1811 parents John and Anne,would you have a marriage of a John Jackson to an Anne .... on your disc.
     Regards,
       John
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 23 September 04 17:40 BST (UK)
Hi John
           Sorry cant seem to tie in a marriage at that time in the runcorn area, is there a chance John and Ann came from another parish ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jrob on Thursday 23 September 04 19:03 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
             I dont know whether John and Anne came from another parish.On IGI there are two children baptised Halton 1791/3 parents John Jackson/Anne,then from 1805-1813 there are 4 more including my William,the one born in 1805 Esther is probably sister to William.Esther married Jeremiah Percival in Manchester in 1826,but in the 1830's they had children baptised at Halton.On 1881 census William's daughter Martha is staying with Esther Percival in Widnes.
    Regards,
       John
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jackie s-o-t on Thursday 23 September 04 20:05 BST (UK)
hi peter,

thanks a lot been looking for thomas's parents for ages much appreciated, all i need now is the elusive mary porter, ( not in cheshire just moaning ), thanks peter,

all the best,

jackie.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: densteph on Friday 01 October 04 18:59 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
I'm looking for details of the following please:-
Middlewich P.R.-bapt.of Martha Bratt 10-10-1798;
         "              -marriage of Charles Bratt and Mary Sproston 15-9-1798;
Church Hulme-bapt of Charles Bratt about 1773;
Middlewich     -bapt.of Mary Sproston about 1777;
       "              -marriage of William Sproston and Martha   ?  11-4-1771.
Many Thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 02 October 04 12:10 BST (UK)
Hi

       I only have the marriage index minimal details only

Middlewich St. Michael 11-4-1771 William Sproston married Martha SPROSTON

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: reddesktop on Thursday 07 October 04 18:45 BST (UK)
Hi
I was wondering if you could look up any info on the following

Samuel Gillion b 1701
Samuel Gillion b c1720
Samuel Gellion b 1748
And Joseph gellion b 1756

All from Chester

Thank you
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 08 October 04 16:59 BST (UK)
Hi
     The only info I have is for a Samuel Gellion marriage

29/12/1726 to Eliz Winton at Chester Holy Trinity

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: reddesktop on Friday 08 October 04 17:14 BST (UK)
Thank you for that
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jackie s-o-t on Friday 08 October 04 17:39 BST (UK)
hi peter,

you found me a short while ago peter wakefield in kent green, could i be cheeky and ask you to look for peters marriage.

thank you so much,

jackie.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 09 October 04 12:27 BST (UK)
Hi Jackie
             Never be afraid to ask, its no problem, in the case of Peter Wakefield and Mary my indexes are not showing a marriage anywhere in Cheshire, If they had married in the Odd Rode Hall Green area the parish Church would be Astbury St Mary, these records are kept at Chester RO.

sorry cant help this time

peterbennett  
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jackie s-o-t on Monday 11 October 04 16:52 BST (UK)
hi peter,

thanks a lot for looking.

jackie.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: shell on Tuesday 19 October 04 16:58 BST (UK)
Hi
I am looking for a Charles Bradbury marriage . I think it will be Knutsford area. Children I know of were born in 1823 and 1824 in Knutsford. Sorry if it is a bit vague
Hope you can help
Shell
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Su on Tuesday 19 October 04 20:39 BST (UK)
Shell,  I found the following marriages for a Charles Bradbury.

9 April 1820 to Martha Swindells (spinster) at PRESTBURY (his occ. ironfounder)

l Oct 1820 to Martha Mellor at Macclesfield

30 Dec 1824 to Elizabeth Harrison at Great Budworth.

I couldn't find any marriages for Knutsford

Su
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Bstw on Tuesday 19 October 04 22:50 BST (UK)
Chris

Hi I am new to the Rootschat site, viewing it for the first time today.

I understand you may have access to some Cheshire parish marriage records.

Could you see if you can trace any of the following (likely in one of the following churches - Northwich Witton St Helen, Great Budworth or Weaverham).

1. Thomas Stanway to a Mary Dickens around 1830 - 1860.

2. Ralph Stanway (father of Thomas above) to a Catherine ? (Surname unknown at this time). Likely before 1837 - as not showing on Cheshire BMD records. 

3  Thomas Stanway (father of Thomas above) marraige to an Anne Ryder. Date unknown but anticipated around 1780 - 1790.

4. Randle Stanway (father of Thomas above) to a Sarah ? (surname again not known at this time.

Any help you can give to guide me to the particular church and date woudl be very helpful.

Thanks

Bernard
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: shell on Wednesday 20 October 04 08:42 BST (UK)
Hi Su
Thanks for the information
Shell
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 20 October 04 15:13 BST (UK)
Chris

Hi I am new to the Rootschat site, viewing it for the first time today.

I understand you may have access to some Cheshire parish marriage records.

Could you see if you can trace any of the following (likely in one of the following churches - Northwich Witton St Helen, Great Budworth or Weaverham).

1. Thomas Stanway to a Mary Dickens around 1830 - 1860.

2. Ralph Stanway (father of Thomas above) to a Catherine ? (Surname unknown at this time). Likely before 1837 - as not showing on Cheshire BMD records. 

3  Thomas Stanway (father of Thomas above) marraige to an Anne Ryder. Date unknown but anticipated around 1780 - 1790.

4. Randle Stanway (father of Thomas above) to a Sarah ? (surname again not known at this time.

Any help you can give to guide me to the particular church and date woudl be very helpful.

Thanks

Bernard

Hi Bernard
                 Welcome to rootschat
The first one following was found in http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

Thomas Stanway and Mary Dickens 1857 St Mary Gt Budworth no date
I could not find anything for Ralf and Catherine.
In the Bertram Merrill Cheshire parish marriages I found

Thomas and Ann Ryder 16/Feb/1792 St Mary Gt. Budworth
Randle and Sarah Read 2/Jan/1742/3 St Helens Witton
There are two entries for this marriage presumably because of a wrong transciption between church records and Bishops Transcripts

The records are I believe complete for Witton St Helens 1700-1837
~       ~           ~    ~             ~         ~  Gt. Budworth St Mary 1670-1837

regards

peterbennett

 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Bstw on Thursday 21 October 04 17:34 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Thanks very much for the information on the Stanway marriages in Gt Budworth & Witton Churches.  :)

This should enable me to go more directly to the marriaage records at the Chester RO - rather than trawl through a lot of micorfilms !

I am still confused over the missing record for Ralph & Catherine. I have no inclination that they were outside of the area at any time.

Ralph appears in 1841 & 1851 census in Castle Northwich along with wife Catherine in 1841 record (Kate in 1851 !) and son Thomas.  I have no knowledge yet of Catherine's maiden name.  Believed marriage was back beyond the 1837 start of BMD records.

Any other thoughts on other ways to follow this one up?

Thanka gains for the help so far

Bernard
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: odessa on Thursday 21 October 04 19:55 BST (UK)
Hi Bernard,
The I.G.I. has any entry for a Ralph Stanway marrying a Catherine Hind on 31 DEC 1831 at the Cathedral Church of Manchester. It was not unknown for couples from the Northwich area to choose to marry at Manchester Cathedral, especially if they wanted a "quiet" wedding. You should be able to request a copy of the entry from http://www.manchester.gov.uk/libraries/arls/copying.htm
if you think it's a possible match and worth further investigation. HIND(E) was a name local to Northwich at that time, I have one or two making an appearance in my own research, but sadly no Catherine.
odessa.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Bstw on Thursday 21 October 04 23:21 BST (UK)
Odessa

Thanks very much. This looks a very positive lead.  :)
I do know Ralph & Catherine had a son Thomas born in 1835 or 1836 in Northwich, so fits in quite well.

I will follow up through the route you advise to check out if these are the correct pairing.

Thanks again for the help.

I find it very pleasing to see lots of people trying to help out with each others searches.

Bernard
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: odessa on Friday 22 October 04 09:58 BST (UK)
Bernard,
If you do go to CRO to check on your other marriages and have time, look for the baptism of Thomas Stanway b.1835/6 in the "Auxilliary Baptism Registers" for St Helen's, Witton. These registers not only give the parents name/abode but also that of both sets of grandparents. Therefore if Thomas WAS baptised at Witton you would confirm Catherine's maiden name in these registers.  ;)
Good Hunting,
Odessa.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jrhw on Sunday 24 October 04 23:49 BST (UK)
Hello

This is the first time of using this site so please excuse any errors here.

I am trying to find birth and marriage records for John Armitage, I believe of Warrington.

Born circa 1820
Married Ellen Hayes circa 1837
Has child, David born 12/3/1843
It is believed they lived at Eldon Street, Warrington
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 25 October 04 12:29 BST (UK)
Hi
    Welcome
This record of Johns marriage was found on the http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1839
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ARMITAGE John HEYES Ellen Warrington, St Paul Warrington C27/1/111

What census records do you have, that should give an indication of where and when born,so assisting in tracing his birth records. The wedding certificate will give you his fathers name,this also should help in IDing the correct Armitage.
Good luck,and please get back if you need anything else

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: breda gaffy on Saturday 30 October 04 20:11 BST (UK)
hi chris  delighted you have access to cheshire parish records, i was in touch with you acouple of weeks ago before i went on hols.
my great grand parents were married in stockport parish church may 29th 1881, i have the cert, mary ellen pickston 22 spinster queen st stockport married james flanagan 30 bachelor,  queen st  stockport,
father of mary ellen joseph pickson, have not been able to trace him or Mary ellen's birth, on the census of 1881 she is living in queen st domestic sevant, place of birth given as salford.
james's father john deciced on cert, james's mother mary remarried we think a george lester, as on the 1881 census, a month previous to the wedding, james was living with his mother mary lester, at 1 barns court chestergate stockport. it states james was born in stockport. my information from a decieced uncle was james was brought over from ireland by his stepfather a bit confusing, as most of these things are, i suppose he could have been born in stockport and then gone over to ireland with his parents, but there wasn't  many people going  back to ireland  in those days, so that is as far back as i have got with my tree, hope you can help. breda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 31 October 04 12:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Breda
             There seems to have been a few replies to your requests on a previous post, dont know if you have seen them or not, click on this link, then get back to us if you need anything else.

http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=15083.0#msg53416

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: NewcastleOZ on Sunday 07 November 04 08:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

If you are able, would you please look up 2 marriages for me.

Unfortunately, I do not have the maiden name of the bride but I do have baptism details for their children.

1.
Henry Darbeshire of Ashton upon Mersey and Alice ?.
The earliest baptism I can find in the Ashton upon Mersey parish register is Aug 9 1735 (born July 30).  I think that Henry or Hen:, as he was shown in the parish register, was born in 1707, son of Richard Darbeshire.

and

2.
James Darbyshire and Ellen? also of Ashton upon Mersey.  Their eldest son Philip was baptised Dec 5 1813 in Ashton upon Mersey.  Father James was born in 1789, son of Philip & Margaret Darbyshire.

Thanking you in advance.

cheers

Maxine
Australia
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 07 November 04 11:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Maxine
               Sorry there is no index in the Cheshire Bertram Merrill parish records for either of the two marriages.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: thomasp on Sunday 07 November 04 16:16 GMT (UK)
Most grateful if you could have a look amongst the Parish records for Marton-by- Congleton and Siddington for any information on the Potts  (or Pott) family.  I understand that there was a Joseph Pott(s) who was Parish Clerk at Marton in the early 1800's. Tks
thomasp
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: nsc on Monday 08 November 04 15:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,

I've traced my Cartwright line to a William Cartwright who was reportedly born in Nantwich (although the 51 and 61 censuses have his birthplace as Willaston) in approx. 1796 (he died in December 1873 aged 77 on his Death Certificate, although aged 80 in the Parish Records).

But then the line goes cold.

Do you have any marriages that might help me trace his parents?

Or do you have either of his marriages? He was first married to an Ann Davies who was buried 18.8.1827 aged 34. He then married Martha Brown, who was buried 29.1.1866, aged 61.

I would be grateful for any help.

Thankyou


Neil Cartwright
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Kate R. on Monday 08 November 04 16:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,


Do you have a marriage record for John Brandwood who married Mary Alcock, probably sometime between 1825 and 1835?

Kate R.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 08 November 04 16:41 GMT (UK)
Most grateful if you could have a look amongst the Parish records for Marton-by- Congleton and Siddington for any information on the Potts  (or Pott) family.  I understand that there was a Joseph Pott(s) who was Parish Clerk at Marton in the early 1800's. Tks
thomasp

Hi Thomas
                I only have the marriage indexes pre 1837, the townships and churches of Marton and Siddington would be indexed under the umberella of the mother parish, Prestbury St.Peters. If you had a christian name for Josephs wife I could search for a marriage.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 08 November 04 16:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,

I've traced my Cartwright line to a William Cartwright who was reportedly born in Nantwich (although the 51 and 61 censuses have his birthplace as Willaston) in approx. 1796 (he died in December 1873 aged 77 on his Death Certificate, although aged 80 in the Parish Records).

But then the line goes cold.

Do you have any marriages that might help me trace his parents?

Or do you have either of his marriages? He was first married to an Ann Davies who was buried 18.8.1827 aged 34. He then married Martha Brown, who was buried 29.1.1866, aged 61.

I would be grateful for any help.

Thankyou


Neil Cartwright

Hi Neil

             Having searched the index I can only find a marriage for a William Cartwright and a Sarah Davis no Ann sorry, the wedding was on the 15-Nov-1819 at STAINTS Mary and Nicolas Nantwich, a copy of the entry could be obtained from the Chester RO, this may give you the parents names. There are to many Cartwright weddings in Cheshire to try and guess the right parents.

good luck and get back to us if you find a parent.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 08 November 04 17:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,


Do you have a marriage record for John Brandwood who married Mary Alcock, probably sometime between 1825 and 1835?

Kate R.


Hi Kate
            There is a marriage indexed at St. Mary Astbury 17-October 1833 Mary Allcock and John Brandwood. Sorry no other details available.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jackie s-o-t on Saturday 13 November 04 14:59 GMT (UK)
hi peter

could i ask if you cover taxal cheshire at all, if you do could you find a marriage between john porter and ellen around 1833 or before.

kind regards

jackie.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 13 November 04 15:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Jackie

            I have records of marriages at Taxal St.James and I think its complete for the years 1808-1837, and there is no sign of a John Porter marrying there, checked all other areas as well with no results, also checked for any Porter marriages at Taxal and there dosn't seem to have been any.

SORRY

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jackie s-o-t on Saturday 13 November 04 17:04 GMT (UK)
hi peter

thanks for looking, if its any use to you your large family you are looking for, some names come up in stafford and stone on the 1851 name index.

regards
jackie.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: stretchie on Tuesday 16 November 04 16:51 GMT (UK)
RUNCORN PARISH CHURCH 4th MAY 1890
MARRIAGE OF:
GEORGE ALFRED FARMER & JANE ILLIDGE

Any additional info on this one for me?

Stretchie.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 16 November 04 17:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Strechie
                Not sure what you are looking for.
                Do you have the marriage certificate ?

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: stretchie on Tuesday 16 November 04 17:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,
that was quick.

Im not sure what Im looking for!

Yes, Ive got the mar cert.

Wondering why they married in Runcorn when they lived in West Bank, Widnes. Just looking for a lead, you know what its like.

Both showing addresses in Runcorn, but they should'nt be there. 

Stretchie.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: nora T on Friday 19 November 04 17:21 GMT (UK)
hello chris, i am wondering if your   marriage  CD  covers  market drayton,If so  could you look up GEORGE TIMMIS married AMELIA CAULCOTT  4 june,  1813 in market drayton.    I f so will it give fathers, or witness,s or where they were living, I hope you can help, but if not never mind, and thanks any way, regards, nora T :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 19 November 04 17:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Nora

          Sorry but the cd is an index of marriages name and date only

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: nora T on Friday 19 November 04 17:52 GMT (UK)
hi chris or peter,  could either of you, find out if there is any james timmis, married to a catherine, in cheshire before 1786, maybe  audlem , nantwich, wynbury, hough, area. asking a lot i know, but , you two have performed miracles before, regards nora T
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: nora T on Friday 19 November 04 18:07 GMT (UK)
thanks for looking any way peter, i am very grateful, regards nora,  p.s, i did not get a notification, of your reply, is that because i am on line, or am i having a bit of trouble again?.   nora
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Sorcha on Saturday 20 November 04 09:47 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I'm hoping those with Cheshire records might be able to find Peter Booth who was born in Appleton around 1812. 

I have located them on the 1841 living in Bootle:

1841 census Bootle ref 0024 06 519/01

Peter 26 joiner, not in county
Ann 25 "
Edwin 2, born in county
Frederick 3mths "
 plus
Mary 13 "
Sarah 40 "
Thomas 20, joiner "
Thomas 45 , glass cutter "

I don't know what relation the last four names are to Peter booth but they all appear to be Booth and say they were born in Lancashire.

Peter's wife, Ann, is from Grappenhall.

I'd like to find any info on Peter booth and the marriage of Peter and Ann, which I am presuming was in Cheshire.  I suppose their marriage could have been just after 1837 and might well be registered but as I say, I would appreciate any information anybody is kind enough to give me.

Many thanks,

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 20 November 04 13:38 GMT (UK)
thanks for looking any way peter, i am very grateful, regards nora,  p.s, i did not get a notification, of your reply, is that because i am on line, or am i having a bit of trouble again?.   nora

Hi Nora
             When you a writing a message and you want a notification you must put a tick in the box named Notify me of replies. This can be found by clicking on the words
Additional Options...  

hope this works for you

peterbennett
           
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: nora T on Saturday 20 November 04 13:40 GMT (UK)
thanks peter, will do. regards nora
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: gillbill on Monday 22 November 04 20:44 GMT (UK)

I am looking for a John Holt married to Ann.  They had a son born in 1806 baptised at St Bartholomews Wilmslow.  So far I have been unable to find a marriage.  Could you look up their marriage, possibilities are Stockport, Cheadle St Thomas, Wilmslow & anywhere else in that area.
Many thanks gillbill.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Laverdiere on Friday 26 November 04 04:16 GMT (UK)
Do you have anything for a John ROBINSON of Stapeley or Wybunbury in the late 1770s or 80s?  Thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 26 November 04 15:18 GMT (UK)
Do you have anything for a John ROBINSON of Stapeley or Wybunbury in the late 1770s or 80s?  Thanks

Hi and welcome to rootschat

            I only have marriage indexes,the only one I have found is a marriage to Eliz Cooper 21/5/1793 at St Chad Wybunbury.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jonnyleeds on Friday 26 November 04 16:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris, could you possibly look up an ancestor of mine Joseph Lawton born c1803 in Handford or Hanforth Cheshire. Any idea of parents?

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 28 November 04 12:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris, could you possibly look up an ancestor of mine Joseph Lawton born c1803 in Handford or Hanforth Cheshire. Any idea of parents?

Many thanks

John

Hi and welcome to rootchat

       The parish records I have are marriage indexes only, no births I am afraid, I can tell you that the township your looking for would be Handforth in the parish of Cheadle and the church records would be St.Mary's.
       If you send an email to the Chester RO detailing the lookup you need, you may be lucky and get a free reply. The email address is recordoffice@cheshire.gov.uk

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: topmarx on Monday 13 December 04 00:35 GMT (UK)
Hello.
I am trying to trace the birth of Samuel Harrison in Runcorn Cheshire c1829  His father was George Harrison
Sorry no mothers name.

hope you can help I am drawing blanks everywhere.

regards
Sheila

duplicated request see
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=1123.195
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rowen on Wednesday 22 December 04 18:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

Any chance you could check for Bunnell in Tarvin, Cheshire between 1830-1890.

Many thanks Rachel :D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 23 December 04 11:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel

              Need a bit more info if possible IE a first name, are you looking for a marriage,birth, death or census info.

peterbennett

 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rosndel on Sunday 26 December 04 11:29 GMT (UK)
We are looking for any records for a Thomas Deane and Mary Boothby in Cheshire. We know their son James was born in Bollington near Macclesfield on the 14 April 1838, but we have not found anything about Thomas. We would love to get any information possible

Rosndel

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 26 December 04 15:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosndel
               Welcome to rootschat
In order to find out more about Thomas and his history we need a little more info if possible to establish his place of birth IE do you have any census records for the family? I have checked all the published records for the Bollington area without finding anything.

regards

peterbennett



Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rowen on Sunday 26 December 04 17:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,

It's a marriage I was looking for, or rather two.

1) William H Bunnell to Harriet, probably Tarvin, although could be Kelsall, as she was born there. They must have married prior to 1881, as I have them together in the census and their first child was born in 1881.

2) Edward Bunnell to Mary, again Tarvin prior to 1835 as this is then their son was born.

Many thanks  and Merry Christmas 8)
Rachel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 26 December 04 18:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel

All the cheshire marriages after 1837 can be found on this site, sorry can't see one for William and Harriet.

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk

The only marriage prior to 1837 for an Edward and Mary is on the 15/3/1819 St Oswald Chester Mary Houghland.
  The marriage records I have are reasonably complete for that district but you can never say that one was not missed.

sorry

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rowen on Sunday 26 December 04 18:14 GMT (UK)
Peter

thanks for that

Rachel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rosndel on Monday 27 December 04 00:14 GMT (UK)
Dear Peter,

 :) Thanks for your quick reply. we would love to be able to give you more details about Thomas, but we are starting to wonder if whether our ancestor James actually had a father at all.

The only information we have is from James birth death and marriage certificates.

The birth certificate gives James' birth place as Bollington, regristration district Macclesfield in 1838.

His marriage to Rachel Valentine was in the registration district Ashton Under Lynne, St Paul's Church Stayley on May 19 1861

He immigrated to Australia circa 1864 and he died in Gympie, Queensland, Australia in 1911.

On each certificate his father is listed as Thomas Deane, labourer. His mother is listed as Mary

Thanks again
Rosndel :-*

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 27 December 04 16:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Again
             Still trying to find the area James lived in 1861, do you know if they had any children or not prior to them emigrating in 1864 ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rosndel on Saturday 01 January 05 01:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,

As far as we know the first child was John Thomas born in Gympie,Queensland Australia in 1869.

On James marriage certificate his place of residence was listed as Staly, his bride, Rachel Valentine is also listed as Staly for her place of residence.

Thank you so much for your efforts.
Rosndel  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Lindyboo on Monday 03 January 05 17:17 GMT (UK)
Hello and a belated Happy New Year to all Rootschatters.

I'd be very grateful for a look up for the following on Cheshire Parish Registers:

Marriage for William Jackson, born Stockport c1790
married Betty (surname unknown) probably at St Mary's Stockport or St Mary's Cheadle – unless they're one and the same church?

Year of marriage unknown but before September 1818 and probably not earlier than 1811.

If anyone's able to check for births, I'd also be glad of a look up for:

John Dutton b: 1813 Macclesfield, son of John Dutton, a Forgeman.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 03 January 05 17:58 GMT (UK)
Hi
     This looks like it could be the marriage its the only one anywhere near the right time lines

26/4/1819  to Elizabeth Hulme  St. Mary Cheadle

Cant help with the births sorry

peterbennett

       
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Lindyboo on Monday 03 January 05 18:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your help peterbennet.  I'll note the details and keep them on hand.

Regds
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: eejayess on Tuesday 04 January 05 11:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
Could you have a look to see if there are any CRITCHLOW'S.
I am looking for Joseph CRITCHLOW marrying Mary Ann ?
and the birth of their son Thomas circa 1859/60.
Thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 04 January 05 12:04 GMT (UK)

Hi

 The record below is taken from the Cheshire BMD online website, you can download the necessary forms to apply for a certificate. If born in Cheshire there may also be a record of Thomas's birth

CRITCHLOW Joseph    HOWARD Merianne    Stockport, St Mary Stockport  1851

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Laverdiere on Friday 07 January 05 00:56 GMT (UK)
Do you have any John Robinsons married in the 1780s? I know one was married in 1793 but he is not the one I'm looking for.  Thanks, Laverdiere
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Pete E on Saturday 08 January 05 12:26 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris,
Would your CD fount of knowledge be able to produce information on the following?
Marriage of a William Sutton to a Frances ?, location unknown probably after 1837.
Birth/baptism of said Wlliam Sutton Circa 1817 around Norbury/Marbury.
Birth/baptism of Frances Circa 1819 around Norbury/Marbury.
Birth/Baptism of Mary Ellen daughter of above Circa 1841 again around Norbury/Marbury.
I would be extremely grateful if it could.
Thanks Pete
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 08 January 05 14:22 GMT (UK)
Do you have any John Robinsons married in the 1780s? I know one was married in 1793 but he is not the one I'm looking for.  Thanks, Laverdiere

Hi
     Quite a few, here goes


6/1/1779          Whitegate St.Mary      to              Martha Butt
31/11/1780      Nantwich St Mary                          Sarah Ashley
18/1/1780       Weaverham St. Mary                     Sarah Thomas
19/7/1781        Runcorn All Saints                         Catherine Henshall
5/9/1782         Gt.Budworth St Mary                      Mary Edge
22/5/1783          ~                   ~                           Mary Percivall
20/9/1781        Nantwich St Mary& Nicholas         Mary Perrin
10/9/1786        Prestbury St Peters                      Elizabeth Barnsley
28/12/1786      Gt Budworth St Mary                    Mary Prescott
26/1/1786        Frodsham St Lawrence                 Mary Harding
7/2/1788          Davenham St Wilfrid                     Sarah Dale
11/1/1789        Witton St Helen                            Mary Percival

hope this helps

peterbennett









Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 08 January 05 14:41 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris,
Would your CD fount of knowledge be able to produce information on the following?
Marriage of a William Sutton to a Frances ?, location unknown probably after 1837.
Birth/baptism of said Wlliam Sutton Circa 1817 around Norbury/Marbury.
Birth/baptism of Frances Circa 1819 around Norbury/Marbury.
Birth/Baptism of Mary Ellen daughter of above Circa 1841 again around Norbury/Marbury.
I would be extremely grateful if it could.
Thanks Pete

Hi Pete
           The only marriage I have a referance of for a William Sutton to a Francis anybody was on the 20/10/1834 at St Lawrence Frodsham Francis Blair/Blain

Sorry I cannot help with births prior to 1837 in that area.
There is a birth inexed on the http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ for a Mary Ellen 1840 in Stockport of which Norbury is a township

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jenny44 on Saturday 08 January 05 19:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
Can you find a Joseph Dentith born February 1844 in Picton. I can't find anything about him pre 1881 when he was living in Chesterfield and married to Sarah nee Pearson from Wirksworth  Derbyshire. He must have move from Picton in 1881 he has four children the eldest is 9. Hope you can help Thanks Jenny Greaves
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Pete E on Saturday 08 January 05 23:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Pete,
Thanks for the Sutton information, I am a little further forward now than I was this morning. Thanks again for the help
regards
Pete
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: miketaylor on Sunday 09 January 05 10:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

I was wondering if you give me any detail on :-

John Ackerley b c1750 marriage to Elizabeth Bayley b c1750
John Ackerley b 1786 marriage to Hannah Farrington b 1789

Both of Bickerton, Cheshire

and Ruth Ackerley b 1882 from Huxley, Cheshire married ???

Thanks

Mike
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 09 January 05 11:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
Can you find a Joseph Dentith born February 1844 in Picton. I can't find anything about him pre 1881 when he was living in Chesterfield and married to Sarah nee Pearson from Wirksworth  Derbyshire. He must have move from Picton in 1881 he has four children the eldest is 9. Hope you can help Thanks Jenny Greaves

Hi Jenny
             Welcome to rootschat
    I have looked on the Cheshire BMD and there doesn't seem to be a birth indexed for him,do you have his fathers or mothers name at all,maybe from his wedding certificate ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 09 January 05 12:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

I was wondering if you give me any detail on :-

John Ackerley b c1750 marriage to Elizabeth Bayley b c1750
John Ackerley b 1786 marriage to Hannah Farrington b 1789

Both of Bickerton, Cheshire

and Ruth Ackerley b 1882 from Huxley, Cheshire married ???

Thanks

Mike

Hi Mike
             Welcome to Rootschat
 I only have marriage indexes for Cheshire so there is no indeapth info.

 marriage to Elizabeth Bayley 10/11/1784 St Michaels Middlewich (he a husbandman)
 marriage to Hannah Farrington 27/12/1810 St.Michaels

There is no marriage indexed on the Cheshire bmd for Ruth the index only goes up to around 1900 for some parishes.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: miketaylor on Monday 10 January 05 23:45 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your help Peter, I believe Ruth Ackerley went to work as a servant in Derbyshire so maybe she married there or maybe my grandfather was illegitimate. I will try records in Derbyshire.
Regards
Mike
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rowen on Tuesday 11 January 05 17:53 GMT (UK)
Hi

Any chance you could look up a marriage for me?

Samuel Dodd to Margaret, they are in Tarvin in 1851, Samuel was born c1785 Cheshire and Margaret c1799 Mold. They had  a daughter Jane born 1833.

Thanks Rachel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 12 January 05 12:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel
               Sorry I cannot seem to find a record of them marrying in Cheshire at all, is it possible that they were married in Mold? where was the daughter born? This link will give you details of the Mold district and where the records are kept.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/FLN/Mold/index.html

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rowen on Wednesday 12 January 05 17:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks for coming back to me Peter.

Their daughter Jane was born in Tarvin in 1833.

You could be right about them marrying in Mold. I'll check the link.

Regards Rachel :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: eredford on Thursday 13 January 05 21:41 GMT (UK)
Does anyone have Parish Records for St Chads Wybunbury. I have a Samuel BARNETT born at Broad Lane, Stapely abt 1827/8?. I do not have any more details. By 1848 he appears to married and living in Staffordshire with Ann and son George born abt 1828.  Thanks

 :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 14 January 05 12:26 GMT (UK)
Hi
    And welcome to rootschat.
    There are no online birth records as yet for Wybunbury, maybe an email to Cheshire RO would be the quickest way to find it, mail to the address on this page link, you will receive a reply and they usually do a free search of a few years,so you never know,its worth a try.

https://www.cheshire.gov.uk/recoff/eshop/copfront.htm

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: stanford on Saturday 15 January 05 00:23 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I'm looking for a marriage William WRIGHT m. Ann - eldest child baptized 1828 Tarvin. Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Roy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 15 January 05 12:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Roy
         Welcome to rootschat
I have searched the index but non of the William Wright marriages stand out as being right,either date or district wise.
 The index I have for Tarvin covers 2800 marriages, dates from 1563-1837 unfortunatly there are a few gaps.

sorry,it looks like you may have to try the records office at Chester

peterbennett
   
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: stanford on Sunday 16 January 05 05:27 GMT (UK)
Peter,

Thank you for your prompt reply.

My ancestor Margaret Wright b. 1847 (m. George Hatton, Bunbury) consistently cites her birthplace as Tarvin in censuses 1871 onwards.

As you know I am new to RootsChat. How best should I initiate a look-up of the 1851 census for information re her parents?

All the best

Roy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 16 January 05 12:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Roy
          As it will proberbly be me thats looks up the 1851 its no problem to do it from where you are now.
          Can you tell me if Margaret had any siblings you know of ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: stanford on Sunday 16 January 05 18:13 GMT (UK)
Peter,

The putative siblings are:

William b 1828
Ann b 1836
Elizabeth b 1842
Sarah b 1844

All baptized in Tarvin, parents William WRIGHT and Ann, according to IGI.

I could find no suitable record for Margaret in Cheshire BMD births - I guess Tarvin has not yet been indexed for that period?

Also, Bennett happens to be an interest of mine.

This week I received the marriage certificate of Abraham BENNETT b.<1835> Bollington (1871 census) from Cheshire East RO citing John BENNETT as father. Both father and son were tailors.
I cannot find the family in IGI and there are too many Bennetts registered in Bollington in Cheshire BMD births to form a picture of the family.

Again, a look-up in 1851 or 1841 census could be very useful to me.

Roy

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 17 January 05 12:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Roy
          The 1841/51/61 census shows the following

HO107-96-17-P 4  Eddisbury Village Parish of Delamere

William Wright 35  ag/lab       born in county
Ann         ~      35                     ~   ~   ~
James     ~      10                     ~   ~   ~
William    ~       9                      ~   ~   ~
Ann         ~       4                      ~   ~   ~
Joseph    ~       1                      ~   ~   ~

1851 HO107-2171-Folio 307 Longley Kelsall Parish of Tarvin

William Wright  head  49  ag/lab        born Ashton (Tarvin )
Ann          ~       wife  45                            Alvanly (Frodsham)
Joseph     ~       son   10                            Kelsall  (Tarvin)
Samuel    ~ granson    9                               ~         ~
Sarah      ~        daug  6                               ~         ~
Margaret ~         ~      4                                ~         ~
Job          ~        son   10 months                  ~         ~

1861 RG9-Folio 37 Longley Lane Kelsall

William Wright  head   59  ag/lab                 Ashton
Ann          ~      wife     55                            Alvanly
Margaret  ~      daug   14                            Kelsall
Job           ~        son   10                              ~
Ann Jane Potter gran/daug father Samuel    ~

There is a marriage on Cheshire BMD 1860 Samuel Wright and Jane Potter at Frodsham

I will get back to you with any info on the Bennett's

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: stanford on Monday 17 January 05 16:38 GMT (UK)
Peter,

Very helpful and a lesson to me on the shortcomings of IGI.

I forgot to mention that I believe I have located John Bennett in the 1871 and 1881 censuses Water Street Bollington b <1808>. However he was a widower by 1871.

Roy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 18 January 05 12:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Roy
            Here are the Bennett's of Bollington.

1861 RG9-2576-F 51  Water Lane Bollington

John Bennett  head marr 54 Master Tailor born Chapel-en-le-Frith
Elizabeth ~     wife    ~    48                               Disley
Sarah A Booth daug  ~    24 cotton hand           Bollington
Mary Bennett    ~    un/w 20    ~      ~
Elizabeth ~       ~      ~    15   ~       ~
Joseph    ~     son            13 tailor
Eliza        ~    daug             9
Helena    ~      ~                 6

1851 HO107-2158-F 467  Water Lane Bollington

John Bennett head 44 Tailor             born Chapel-en-le-Frith
Elizabeth  ~   wife   38                              Disley
Abraham  ~    son   16   ~                         Bollington
Sarah Ann ~   daug 14 cotton piecer           
Samuel     ~    son   13     ~      ~
Mary        ~    daug  10    ~     weaver

1841 HO107-104-07-F5 Page 4 Bollington Lane Bollington

Samuel Bennett   70  independent            born in county
John        ~          20                                   ~     ~   ~
Betty       ~          65                                   ~     ~   ~
John        ~          30  tailor                         ~     ~   ~
Elizabeth ~          25                                   ~     ~   ~
Abraham ~            6                                   ~     ~   ~
Sarah      ~            5                                   ~     ~   ~
Samuel    ~            3                                   ~     ~   ~
Mary        ~            1                                   ~     ~   ~
James     ~           13  cotton hand              ~     ~   ~

If you require any more please ask

peterbennett  

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: stanford on Tuesday 18 January 05 18:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks Peter - that is great detail.

I will attempt to get Elizabeth's maiden name fom a post-1837 child. However, for a complete record I would be grateful if you could take a look in your marriage records of an early 1830's wedding around Disley - do they extend into Derbyshire?

Also, I have another Bennett 1841/51/61 census search request

Abraham m. Sarah Wainwright May 16 1858 Macclesfield.

Yesterday I received Sarah's birth cert. from Cheshire East CRO.

Sarah Wainwright born Apr 24 1839 Pott Shrigley
Father James Wainwright of Pott Shrigley, mother Frances Bennett

Also IGI has James Wainwright m. Frances Bennett Feb 3 1834 Prestbury

I cannot find James or Frances in the 1871 or 1881 census.

It would be great to to have the detailed picture of the family from 1841/51/61 census.

All the best

Roy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Friday 21 January 05 10:03 GMT (UK)
Hi,
would it be possible for someone to look up the marriage of Thomas Daniel and Martha Eccles?
Thomas was born in the parish of Cheadle about 1806.
Martha was born in Norbury about 1812/13.
They later lived in Norbury and Poynton.
Children included
Elizabeth born 1832/33 Norbury
Henry born 1833/34   Norbury
David born 1847   Poynton
Lydia born 1849/50   Poynton
Baptisms of these children haven't been found. The first two could have had a different mother considering the age gaps. Martha was the mother of David and Lydia.
Regards
Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 21 January 05 11:58 GMT (UK)
Hi
      I have searched the two indexes I have plus Cheshire BMD and there dosn't seem to be anything for them,sorry

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Friday 21 January 05 12:11 GMT (UK)
Hi,
many thanks for your efforts, some ancestors just don't appear to wish to be found.
Regards
Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 22 January 05 15:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks Peter - that is great detail.

I will attempt to get Elizabeth's maiden name fom a post-1837 child. However, for a complete record I would be grateful if you could take a look in your marriage records of an early 1830's wedding around Disley - do they extend into Derbyshire?

Also, I have another Bennett 1841/51/61 census search request

Abraham m. Sarah Wainwright May 16 1858 Macclesfield.

Yesterday I received Sarah's birth cert. from Cheshire East CRO.

Sarah Wainwright born Apr 24 1839 Pott Shrigley
Father James Wainwright of Pott Shrigley, mother Frances Bennett

Also IGI has James Wainwright m. Frances Bennett Feb 3 1834 Prestbury

I cannot find James or Frances in the 1871 or 1881 census.

It would be great to to have the detailed picture of the family from 1841/51/61 census.

All the best

Roy

Hi Roy
           Here are the details of the Wainwrights

1841 HO107-106-10-F6  Village Pott Shrigley  Cheshire

James Wainwright  29  coal miner            born in county
Frances      ~          27                                  ~  ~    ~
John           ~            5                                  ~  ~    ~
Sarah         ~            2                                  ~  ~    ~
Joseph       ~           18  coal miner               ~   ~    ~
George Bennett  not sure of age 20 ??  labourer    ~

1851 HO107-2158-F 523  Pott Shrigley

Frances Wainwright 36 head wid washer women Kettleshulme
John          ~            16   son coal miner                 Pott Shrigley
Sarah        ~            11  daug cotton winder           ~
George      ~            9  scholar                              ~     
Charles     ~             6                                            ~
Sarah Bennett         66 mother widow                 Taxal Cheshire

1861 RG9-2576-F 126 Jacksons Brow Pott Shrigley

Thomas Broome head marr 62  ag/lab         Worth (Poynton ) Cheshire
Frances        ~    wife   ~    47 rtd cotton piecer Kettleshulme
George        ~     son           19 coal miner          Pott Shrigley
George Wainwright wifes son 19 brickmaker         ~    ~
Charles       ~              ~    ~    16 coal miner         ~    ~
Abraham Bennett lodger marr 26 tailor              Bollington
Sarah         ~          ~        ~    22                       Pott Shrigley

peterbennett           
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Sunday 23 January 05 03:43 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I've just discovered a possible new ancestor in Susannah Williamson who according to census information originated in Stockport in 1779.
The IGI mentions a Susannah Williamson born in Stockport 16 Dec 1779 but with no parents or christening. I'm not sure if this is the correct person and would love to find a christening for her. Similarly a Caleb Williamson with some event possibly a birth about 1781 in Stockport.
The family presumably moved to Prestwich and the same Susannah Williamson hopefully married James Cowburn in 1801.
Any information regarding records of Susannah or Caleb in Stockport would be very much appreciated.
Regards
Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Sunday 23 January 05 19:35 GMT (UK)
I'm trying to find a family in Stockport with the name Boulton.
It begins with Samuel and Jane (born 1775) Boulton who had children including Thomas born 1823/24 and Eliza born 1814/15.
Eliza's children were born in Stockport and included
Jane born 1834/35
Ellen born 1839
Susannah born 1847
Alice born 1850
They all carried her name Boulton or her parteners name Thorniley.
If anyone could find baptisms etc for these family members I would be delighted.
Regards
Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: stanford on Monday 24 January 05 12:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the great detail on the Wainwrights - the mother-in-law is nice bonus.

One more if I may.

I have the marriage certificate of William BADDELEY and Emma SMITH 1851 Talke oth Hill, Staffs. In later censuses their daughters Ellen B1854 AND Henrietta B1855 (this one also in Cheshire BMD) cite their birthplace as Linley, a hamlet just over the border from Talke which I believe is part of the Sandbach registration district.

Could you please look for the family in the 1861 census?

All the best

Roy

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 24 January 05 16:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Roy
           Indeed the birth reg for Henrietta does say Sandbach on the Cheshire BMD, but as far as I know there is no Linley in that area, the only one I know of is in Shropshire,could be wrong,often am, its possible to search the Sandbach area although it may be easier with an address from the birth certificate, there is no name index and its quite a large area.
         Do you have them in 1871 if so where?

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rowen on Wednesday 26 January 05 16:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter

Could you check a marriage for me, it's the couple you looked up earlier on the census for me. James Jepson and Ann, would have been in Heaton Norris, possilby around 1827/28.

Many thanks yet again.
Rachel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 26 January 05 16:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel
                Lucked out again sorry,St James church records are not on my index maybe Lancashire not Cheshire for the earlier records. Not sure if they have been published or not.

peterbennett  
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Wednesday 26 January 05 16:45 GMT (UK)
Hi,
would it be possible for someone to look up a marriage between William Dawson and Alice Wilson from around 1854?
Alice was born around  1839 in Weaverham.
The couple were living in Leftwich in 1871 with a 14 year old son also called William who had been born in Northwich/Leftwich depending which census is consulted.
They didn't appear to have the births of their children William, born about 1857 and Elizabeth, born about 1860, registered, so a baptism would be wonderful if anyone has registers for Northwich / Leftwich / Weaverham baptisms.
Any help with this family would be very much appreciated.
regards
Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rowen on Wednesday 26 January 05 17:14 GMT (UK)
Peter

thanks for all your help today, much appreciated. will visit Stockport Library for St James records.

best wishes
Rachel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 27 January 05 10:53 GMT (UK)
Hi,
would it be possible for someone to look up a marriage between William Dawson and Alice Wilson from around 1854?
Alice was born around  1839 in Weaverham.
The couple were living in Leftwich in 1871 with a 14 year old son also called William who had been born in Northwich/Leftwich depending which census is consulted.
They didn't appear to have the births of their children William, born about 1857 and Elizabeth, born about 1860, registered, so a baptism would be wonderful if anyone has registers for Northwich / Leftwich / Weaverham baptisms.
Any help with this family would be very much appreciated.
regards
Jean Sandra

Hi
      I have had a good search around the indexes I own, and could not find a marriage,but one thing I did look at was the possibility that the children's births were registered but in the mothers maiden name IE before she met and "married" Mr Dawson,and found the following on the Cheshire BMD.
William Wilson 1858 Northwich, he does not appear as Wilson on the 1871 census.
Elizabeth Wilson 1861 Northwich, she also does not appear on the 1871, worth buying a birth certificate maybe ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Friday 28 January 05 09:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,
yet again you never cease to amaze me.
Why didn't I think of something so logical as looking under the mother's maiden name for the births?
I will order the certificates and see what happens.
Many thanks
Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Friday 28 January 05 10:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,
Just looked on CheshireBMD and possibly found 5 children of William Dawson and Alice Wilson who were registered as Wilson. The last one a Henry Dawson Wilson born in Northwich in 1870. However the one birth certificate I do have belonging to this family was for Ada Alice Dawson born 16 March 1872. Subsequent children were registered as Dawson.
I'm not sure if some significant event happened between 1870 and 1872 (marriage?) or if they just decided to register as Dawson and pretend they were married. Perhaps the earlier children didn't belong to William, I must send for the certificates.
Regards
Jean Sandra


Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 28 January 05 10:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean Sandra

     Good luck, hope I am right. Got my fingers crossed for you,let us know how you get on.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: stanford on Saturday 29 January 05 06:35 GMT (UK)
Peter,

Thanks for your efforts.

I was in England this week and saw there is a hamlet  (or wood?) Linley Wood right on the county border by Talke - no idea how this is designated in the census probably a sub-district of Alsager.

I cannot find any of the family in the 1871 census other than a possinble widowed Emma Baddeley in the Stoke area. Both Henrietta and Ellen married in Crewe in 1873 and 1875.

I could order Henrietta's birth crtificate - Ellen is my ancestor.

All the best and thanks

Roy

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 30 January 05 17:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Roy
          Thanks for the prod, there is indeed a Linley Lane in Alsager, but only part of it seems to appear in the Cheshire census, the rest must be over the border in Staffordshire, unfortunatly I cannot check the Staffs side.
         When searching through the Cheshire side I did come across some Baddiley's that may be relavant to your family, but none of the names you gave me.

RG9-2613-F120 Alsager

Sarah Baddiley 16 servant        born Talke of the Hill

RG9-2613-F117 Alsager

Mary Baddiley   head  widow 62  dressmaker  Hanley Staffs
Jane     ~          daug  unwed 22     ~                ~        ~
William Tunstall gran/son       17  ag/lab          Talke o t Hill
Elizabeth ~         ~    daug     13                        ~     ~ ~ ~
Selina      ~         ~     ~          11                       ~      ~ ~  ~

   Think your next step would be to try a request on the Staffordshire board.

regards

peterbennett






Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: stanford on Sunday 30 January 05 17:51 GMT (UK)
Peter

Thank you. Although a fruitless task for you this does help me in eliminating that possibility. I will take up your suggestion.

Roy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: nuttywal on Monday 31 January 05 10:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

I can see you have been inundated and you're obviously a very generous person.  Please could you help me by looking for the following marriages?

- Thomas Webb to Catharine Ashley who had a child in 1840 in Allostock, Cheshire.  I have no other details.

- Sarah Webb to James Hayes.  Sarah had an illegitimate child in 1866 and this child named James as her father on her own marriage certificate.  It's a long shot but I can't find Sarah on any census records after 1866 and I haven't yet found a record of her death so I thought it wise to see if she and James ever married.

I would be very grateful for any help you can give me.  Likewise, I have a number of Cheshire census records I can offer help with if you need it.

Regards

Jeanette
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 31 January 05 12:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Jeanette
                 Welcome to rootschat, and thanks for the offer of help,please feel free to jump in anywhere you think you can help.
                 Its Peter actually,not Chris, I sort of took over the Cheshire board about a year ago,being disabled it kinda helps to keep the old brain cells ticking over,and the disability also means I have a lot of time, hence the reason for "hogging" the board.
               Having said all that I cannot help you with your request, sorry, neither of the marriages appear on any indexes that I have,maybe be another couple of those live together and pretend we are married relationships of which there were plenty.
             Once again thanks for the offer of help, it would be most welcome.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Thursday 03 February 05 13:56 GMT (UK)
Hi peter,

last week I asked for information regarding the birth of the children of William Dawson from Leftwich.
You suggested I send for certificates of children under the mother's name Wilson.
BINGO!
Today I received the certificate for Elizabeth Wilson not Dawson born 27th October 1861. the mother was Alice Wilson and living at London Rd Leftwich. The same mother and address as I thought but not her so called husband's name of Dawson!
Many thanks for leading me along this route.
I have since found William in Hinckley Leicestershire in 1851 with another so called wife Susan and their family.

What happened to them I don't yet know.

I certainly had some controversial ancestors.
Thanks again Peter for all your help.

regards

Jean Sandra

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Mobo on Thursday 03 February 05 14:12 GMT (UK)
 :) :) :)

Hi Chris - what a wonderful offer - here goes

Do you have the marriage of Hannah BUCKLEY & Joseph DAVENPORT both of Siddington, in Cheshire which would have taken place around 1837, also, any of their children, if it's not  too much trouble

As well as Siddington Church, they also used Gawsworth & Prestbury.

Thanks

 :) :) :)

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Sorcha on Thursday 10 February 05 17:55 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Can anybody help with any information about Ann Kinsey.  The 1841 census, taken in Liverpool when she is Ann Booth has her as being from Grappenhall and 25 years old, so I am estimating that she was born around 1816.

She married a Peter Booth, of Appleton.  Their first child appears to be Edwin Booth, born 1839, though in 1851 there is an Alfred W Booth present, who appears to be older.  I don't know if ithis is a child of theirs though.

Any help would be much appreciated.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: transam on Saturday 12 February 05 17:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Cheshire Researchers

Today, I was given the following CD:

Cheshire Parish Records by S & N Genealogy Supplies

The CD allows you to browse, search and print Marriage Registers for all 5 volumes of W.P.W Phillimores Cheshire Parish Record Transcripts.

The dates covered are 17th and 18th Century

If you require me to look through these records for an ancestor of yours, please supply as much information as possible; and I will try to oblige

Chris in 1066Land  
 

I am trying to find my great grandfather’s birth record which according to census information was around 1840 in Spital, Cheshire. However, despite searching the BMD sites (and visiting the FRO in London) there is no registration of his birth at that time (or any time around that date). My next search is to look in the Parish Records for that area. I have been to the SoG in London but they do not have the information I require – only indexes are available.

His name was Jonathan Edwards (father was Joseph according to his marriage certificate), mother unknown. 1871, 1881 show birth place as Spital/Spittle, Cheshire and 1891 Porton, Cheshire.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 13 February 05 14:24 GMT (UK)
Hi
    There are two Spital's and variations of the same in Cheshire,one is in Boughton Chester and the other is in the Wirral Poulton cum Spital,because of your referance to Porton 1891 census, I suspected a trancription error (porton/poulton )

There is a birth recorded in the Cheshire BMD for Johnathan 1840 Wirral http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

The 1841 census shows

HO107-125-07-PAGE 19  Poulton cum Spittle Bebington Wirral

Joseph Edwards 35 farmer lab     born in county
Margaret   ~       35                          ~         ~
John                   15
Samuel               10
George                7
Charles               5
William                3
Johnathan           1

The Parish records http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ show

DATED22/03/1840
FORENAME JONATHAN
SEX M
FATHER_FORENAME JOSEPH
MOTHER_FORENAME MARGT
SURNAME EDWARDS
OCCUPATION LABOURER

regards

peterbennett
 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: katherinem on Tuesday 15 February 05 15:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

Would it be possible to look up a birth for Mary Cadman, she was born in Stockport, Cheshire around about 1831.  I am afraid I don't any more details than that.

Any help would be really appreciated.

Kath M
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 15 February 05 16:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Kath
           Sorry there are no birth records for Stockport at all on my discs.

Stockport Library may be able to help.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Brian1 on Wednesday 16 February 05 00:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
Hope you can be of help. I am looking for the marriage of Thomas Pugh and Jane Pealin. Thomas was from Willaston ( nr Neston ) and Jane from Halton. Their son George ( one of twins ) was born in 1840, so I guess Thomas must have married around 1837.
Hope this is sufficient info for you to get a result.
Thanks in anticipation.
Brian

  Brian I have found and posted further info on the Pugh family at this link

peterbennett

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,36094.0.html
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: griz on Wednesday 16 February 05 04:19 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris,
I am hoping to find the birth record of Samuel Pope. He was born  1836 in  Alvanley. On another document he says, Helsby.

A  KS  found a person I believe to be my Samuel Pope on the Helsby,  1851 census. He is listed as being a lodger, u, 15 yrs, born Alvanley.

He is living with a Dixon/Ainsworth family( ag lab.)

On the 1841 census, for Frodsham, there is an Eliza Pope,
 b  about 1817-1821 who is described as what looks like FL or HL
Living with a Sarah  Nickson( b 1767 - 1771)  Publican and her family. so perhaps this Eliza Pope was an unmarried servant. She is old enough to be Samuel's mother.

Also on the 1841 census,  there is a
 Thomas Pope b 1807 - 1811 Labourer
Ann,   wife  b 1822-1826( so not likely to be Samuel's mother )
Ann dau 6
Thomas  son 4
Esther dau 6 mo.

When Samuel Pope married in 1870   in Widnes( Wesleyan Methodist chapel)  to Ann Chadwick, the section on his marriage certificate for his father's name was left blank. (The bride's father's name, however, was entered.)

I would love to have any 'Popes' you come across as they may turn out to be relatives.

(I was told a long time ago by a member of the family, that she thought they had originated in Sandbach but that might have been one of those family stories as I have found no reference to Sandbach.)
Thank you for your kindness in offering these lookups.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 16 February 05 12:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Griz
       Have you tried the Cheshire Records office ?

http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.htm

there are no generaly published births records for the frodsham district prior to 1837, sorry.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Wednesday 16 February 05 12:07 GMT (UK)
I'd be interested to know of any HINTON marriages which didn't take place in Lymm (I've got all the Lymm ones), and particularly Thomas Hinton/Miriam Something round about 1812. 

Sarah
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 16 February 05 12:17 GMT (UK)
Hi
    There are a total of 79 Hinton marriages indexed in the Bertram Merril index of Cheshire,but no Thomas with a Miriam,sorry.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Wednesday 16 February 05 12:34 GMT (UK)
How about John Hinton and Mary 1768-ish?  Also Samuel Hinton and Mary early 1850's or William Hinton and Absolutely-no-idea round about 1840??  I'm starting to think my Hintons didn't actually bother with marriage very often....  Thanks again for your trouble.

Sarah
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 16 February 05 15:27 GMT (UK)
Hi
    I have a marriage for

John Hinton and Mary Davis Weaverham 26/1/1762
  ~      ~        ~   Mary Vernon    ~            29/11/1767

No marriages shown after 1837, they should all  be in the cival registration indexes.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Wednesday 16 February 05 17:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the lead on John & Mary - the GRO online has bankrupted me for the time being, so 'll keep checking FreeBMD for updates.  (I'm in France.)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: griz on Wednesday 16 February 05 17:40 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Peter. I was hoping that maybe there was a baptism for my Samuel Pope, b 1836,  in the Alvanley area.  I know the registration starts in 1837.

Also, I wondered if there may have been a Pope marriage  just before that time, in that area,  that may have been his parents. eg. Eliza as mentioned.

Perhaps he was illegitimate. Perhaps that's why his father was not mentioned on his marriage certficate

 I haven't tried the office you recommend. Sometime I may do that. 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 17 February 05 11:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Griz
          The latest records of marriages that I have for Frodsham St. Lawrence are

31/3/1823 Thomas Pope and Martha Penkerman

31/3/1824 Joseph Pope and Elizabeth Ball

sorry I cannot help any further but the index I have is not complete to 1837 in all areas.

I would contact the records office asap, I have seen many instances of mothers of illegitimate children although not naming the father, they leave a clue as to his ID sometimes with an unused middle forename for the child.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: griz on Thursday 17 February 05 18:25 GMT (UK)
Thanks Peter, your help is much appreciated. :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: transam on Sunday 20 February 05 22:40 GMT (UK)
Peter
Thank you so much for the info on Jonathan Edwards. You were correct with the Poulton cum Spital area. We have been searching for him for a long time. Now we find he had at least 5 older brothers! The Jonathan Edwards from Wirral registered in BMD is not correct one - I have that birth certificate available if anyone wants it.

Your help with this was much appreciated.
Kind regards
 :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Brian1 on Sunday 20 February 05 23:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Cheshire Researchers

Today, I was given the following CD:

Cheshire Parish Records by S & N Genealogy Supplies

The CD allows you to browse, search and print Marriage Registers for all 5 volumes of W.P.W Phillimores Cheshire Parish Record Transcripts.

The dates covered are 17th and 18th Century

If you require me to look through these records for an ancestor of yours, please supply as much information as possible; and I will try to oblige

Chris in 1066Land  
 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Friday 25 February 05 09:55 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris,

I'm looking for a marriage between Thomas Sorton and Mary, possibly at Over Tabley, about 1790 or a little earlier.  Do you have anything which could help me?  Many thanks for your time!

MR
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 25 February 05 17:11 GMT (UK)
Hi MR
         Sorry there is nothing showing up for Thomas Sorton and Mary anywhere in Cheshire for a marriage within 50 years of 1790

regards

peterbennett
   
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Friday 25 February 05 17:21 GMT (UK)
Blow!

Thanks anyway.  My Sortons and Hintons are very elusive when it comes to marriages - why do I get the impression they weren't entirely respectable???

MR
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: mystcarrie on Thursday 03 March 05 15:38 GMT (UK)
I hoping you can find a record for a Richard Hunt and Ann curry                         approx. 1839, Warrington.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 03 March 05 15:55 GMT (UK)
Hi
     The http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ shows a marriage of Richard to Ann Corrie at St. Elphins Warrington 1839 a certificate can be bought online

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: mystcarrie on Thursday 03 March 05 16:07 GMT (UK)
I'm writing from Canada and was wondering if you could clearify something for me.

What would I find on an 1839 marriage cert.
Is St. Elphins a church or area in Warrington?

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 03 March 05 16:14 GMT (UK)
Hi
    St Elphins is the name of the parish (area ) and the church.
The marriage certificate would show
Date and place of marriage
Names of bride and groom
Age of bride and groom
Occupations
Residence at the time of marriage
Both fathers names and occupations

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: topmarx on Thursday 10 March 05 21:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter.
I am sure you will remember me and my search for Samuel Harrison Runcorn.  I found him at last..

I am asking for help now on his parents George Harrison and Mary Taylor married 13 Feb 1822 at St Elphins Warrington

I am trying to find who their parents were.

Mary was born c 1799 Arley Great Budsworth Cheshire.
George I do not know.

Can you help please???
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: kmomma on Friday 11 March 05 01:01 GMT (UK)
Any "Gavin" names on marriage cd?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Friday 11 March 05 10:19 GMT (UK)
Hi,

would it be possible to look up the marriage of Joseph Thorneley in the Stockport / New Mills area between 1830 and 1851?

I don't know anything more than that except he was born in New Mills and moved to Stockport in the Heaton Norris area.

He described himself as a brickmaker's labourer in the 1851 census.

Many thanks

Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 11 March 05 16:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Jeansandra

                     Have you the details of who Joseph was married to in 1851 and where was he living ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 11 March 05 16:47 GMT (UK)
Any "Gavin" names on marriage cd?

Hi
      Only one Gavin in the index 8/10/1792 John/Elizabeth Philips
the index is not complete so there may be others

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 11 March 05 17:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter.
I am sure you will remember me and my search for Samuel Harrison Runcorn.  I found him at last..

I am asking for help now on his parents George Harrison and Mary Taylor married 13 Feb 1822 at St Elphins Warrington

I am trying to find who their parents were.

Mary was born c 1799 Arley Great Budsworth Cheshire.
George I do not know.

Can you help please???


Hi Topmarx
                  Yes I remember you........ where did you find him eventually?
               As for the parish records for Gt Budworth they are not online as yet. But have you searched the IGI there are plenty of George Harrisons and Mary Taylor's in Cheshire.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

good luck

peterbennett
 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Saturday 12 March 05 00:59 GMT (UK)
Sorry Peter, I don't know much about Joseph in 1841. i only know that by 1851 he lived with Eliza Boulton and continued to do so until after the 1881 census. In one census he was her lodger, in another she was his lodger, in 1881 they were supposed to be brother and sister.
I imagine that part of the problem was that he had been Joseph and Eliza had a number of children together and lived in Heaton Norris but as far as i know didn't marry.
In 1841 he was possibly in Heaton Norris where he later lived with Eliza but I don't know.
regards
Jean Sandra
Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: griz on Saturday 12 March 05 18:11 GMT (UK)

On the Cheshire genealogy mailing list, a KS has looked up and posted some  burial records  from Gt Budworth. Try a search(google?) with the following words:

  St Mary and All Saints Gt Budworth.Cheshire

This is also a fascinating link: http://www.usigs.org/library/books/uk/Cheshire1909/00PageImages/
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: topmarx on Sunday 13 March 05 13:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter

 ;D Re the illusive Samuel Harrison.

I just could not find him at first as you know.

So looked for his father George instead.

First thing to be found was at St Mary the Virgin Runcorn

John son of George and Mary Harrison of Norton Labourer baptised 5th May 1827 still no Samuel but this is the only glimps of George Harrison so press on.

Next to be found was
George Harrison and Mary Taylor married at St Elphins Warrington  / could this be them?

Names same as the baptism for John.

Then 1851 census for Runcorn gave

Mary Harrison wife 52  Cheshire Arley
SAMUEL HARRISON son 21 Waterman Runcorn
Ann Harrison Dau 18 Dressmaker  Runcorn
James Harrison son 8 scholar.

Dont know where George or son John were so to make sure this was the right family sent for the bc for James Harrison.

Sure enough  father was George and mother was Mary Taylor.

Maybe Samuels baptism was not recorded?? Maybe he was baptised later?? But at least I am on the trail of the family now.

Phewww.

Just need to find where George was born now and get tracking on that one.

regards ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: caferacer on Sunday 27 March 05 14:51 BST (UK)
hi peter
i saw your thread about the 18th century parish records and was wondering if you could find any of the Bowler family from Marple, cheshire.  the parish would seem to be Stockport, St Mary's or Marple, All Saints.
My earliest relative (so far) is my g-g-grandfather Charles Bowler b.1800 in Marple.  ive found a few Bowlers from the area on the lds site but cannot tie charles in with them yet
Charles married a margaret Bennett c1823 before moving to Oswaldtwistle in Lancs.
Any info about any Bowler would be useful if not now then maybe in the future when i can maybe put the pieces together
thanks
charley bowler
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: caferacer on Sunday 27 March 05 15:00 BST (UK)
hi peter
ive just realised - if you are related to margaret bennett b1803 in hazle grove, cheshire that would make us very distant cousins and you could add my tree to yours!
charley bowler
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 27 March 05 15:11 BST (UK)

 Sorry Charley all my Bennetts are from the Staffs side of Cheshire.
        Nice thought though  :D

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: skylark on Wednesday 30 March 05 20:34 BST (UK)
Dear Chris

It looks as though you are busy, but I hope you have time to help me.

Matthew Boothby born about 1818, he says Bollington., father Joseph.  Matthew was married in 1845 Newcastle upon Tyne.  I don't know how soon after his birth he moved e.g. with his mother and father or on his own.

My search for any more details in Cheshire have drawn a blank.  Hope you can help.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 31 March 05 12:37 BST (UK)
Hi Jean
             Can you tell me what sourses you have searched in Cheshire, the only thing I could maybe help with is to search for him in 1841 census, if you havn't already done so. Let me know. Also can you tell me his childrens names this may help identfy possible relatives.

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: MAE on Friday 08 April 05 16:01 BST (UK)
dear chris  hi, will you look up the parish records for john mellor and elizabeth pinder married mottram june 27,1847 ( a cheshire record lists it as 1849) St. Michael's church,mottram.  Pinder mellor and Hannah Matilda Hey married staley,St. Paul's, tameside ce35.7.45 ashton district volume 8d page713. also for pinder mellor june 1859 ashton district volume 8d page 483. thankyou mae.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 09 April 05 15:41 BST (UK)
Hi
    Its me not Chris,
     I think with this request you will have to purchase the certificates in order to obtain the full information, most parish records if they have been published are an index only and stop round about 1837 when the cival registration came in.
     You may have some luck if you try the records office as they have the originals but may make a charge, its worth an email though you never no your luck. Thier address is on this link

http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.htm

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: elizabennett on Sunday 10 April 05 22:08 BST (UK)
Could you help please. I am looking for any information on a John Bennett and his family. Sorry but I don't know who he married.  He was the father of George who was born about 1818 and lived in Sound, Wrenbury, Chester at the time of his marriage in 1839.  I have Georges marriage certificate and all the information I have is his fathers name, and it gives Georges age as full.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 11 April 05 11:32 BST (UK)
Hello Eliz
              I am strugling for a start on this one, the 1841 census does not show either a John or a George in Sound, can you give me all the info you have on George, where was he born ? any census info ? names and birthplaces of children ?
where and when did he die ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: elizabennett on Monday 11 April 05 16:44 BST (UK)
Hello again Peter
Thanks you for your help. I am afraid that the only information I have on John is his name on Georges marriage certificate.
As for George he was born in Faddiley abt 1818 and married Betsey Boote on 28th January1839 in Wrenbury. She was born in Newhall.  I have a copy of the certificate, their ages are full and residence at the time of marriage is Sound. Their children were born in the villages of Burland/Faddiley/Sound/Brindley.
In 1841 they were living in Burland, 51 Faddiley, 61 Acton Village.
On the 1861 census there are 2 visitors  Ann Bennett aged 30 who  might be Georges sister she was born in Acton and   a child Joseph aged 8 months/Nantwich.
George died in 1866 and Betsey in 1885.
I am trying to find out when George was born and also any information on John. As I cannot find out via census and other infomation  on line does this mean I have to visit the records office, I would be grateful for any help you can give me.
Many thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 11 April 05 18:34 BST (UK)
Hi Eliza
            Sorry I did not remember it was me who did the previous lookup for you.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,40118.msg166259.html#msg166259

There is nothing conclusive showing up in the 1841 census for John Bennett, however I do have one in Faddiley aged 50 wife is Ann also around 45/50.
  Also found a marriage indexed for a John Bennett and Ann Davenport at Acton St Mary 14/2/1814.
  Acton would be the correct parish church for Faddiley.
It may be best if you send an email to the records ofice with the details of George and date c1818 and ask for a search at Acton St Mary, here is the link

http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.htm

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: RuthT on Wednesday 13 April 05 16:21 BST (UK)
Hi
Hope you can help
I'm looking for the marriage of Thomas Gettins/Gittins or Gettings/Gittings
who married an Elizabeth around 1811 in Knutsford.

Many thank
Ruth
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 13 April 05 16:53 BST (UK)
Hi Ruth
            I have a record of a marriage of a Thomas Gettings and Elizabeth Ravenscroft at St Johns Knutsford on Christmas Eve 1810, unfortunately it is only an index with no further info.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: RuthT on Wednesday 13 April 05 20:43 BST (UK)
Thank you Peter, most appreciated
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: snowwhite77 on Wednesday 13 April 05 21:29 BST (UK)
I have got the marriage cert of a Jospeh GORMAN who married in 1901, Liverpool.
He was born 1877 Birkenhead (according to 1901 census.

On his marriage cert it has fathers name only (Mark GORMAN, deceased)

Do the Parish records have the mothers name too or is it fathers name only?
Really not sure where to go with this one.

Appreciate advice/help!
Thanks
Amanda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 14 April 05 10:02 BST (UK)
Hi
    Sorry the parish index I have only shows marriages pre 1837.
     I have looked on the Cheshire BMD http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ but there is no marriage of a Mark Gorman, nor is there a birth of a Joseph Gorman, can't seem to find him in the 91 or 18881 census either.
    A bit of a mystery  ???

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: snowwhite77 on Thursday 14 April 05 12:07 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

Thanks for looking for me.
It is proving to be a bit of a mystery. It has been suggested that perhaps Joseph didn't know his father and put any name down (or a grandfather) on his marriage cert.

Very frustrating!
Thanks again

Amanda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: elizabennett on Friday 15 April 05 17:55 BST (UK)
Many thanks again Peter.  I will do as you suggested and contact the records office.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: DaveC on Wednesday 11 May 05 18:50 BST (UK)
Hi,
Could you help me looking for a Ralph Neild born in Bowdon about 1833.
His wife was Mary Jane and they are in the1871 census, with 2 children born in the Bowdon area - John H,1864 and Harriet K,1865.
He was dead before the 1881 census but had a child who was 2 in 1881 so he must have died between 1878 and 1881.
There is a Ralph Drinkwater Neild in the IGI that fits the bill but I have no knowledge of that middle name.
Thanks, Dave Campbell
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 12 May 05 17:23 BST (UK)
Hi Dave
            Welcome to Rootschat

 This is what I have managed to find in the various census and marriage indexes

Ralf Neild married Mary J Margerson Bowden St Mary 1862

1861 RG9-2590-F 88  Bowden Cheshire

Ralf Neild serv 27 unmarr groom Sparflone ? Cheshire
working for the Hutton family, Merchants of African Goods

1851 HO107-2162-F450 Albert Street Altringham

John Nield head 47 Gardener Bowden
Mary          wife 45                  Longsight Lancashire
Elizabeth   daug 22                 Bowden
Ralf            son 18 ag/lab        Sharlton ? Cheshire
Mary Jane  daug 15                Timperley
Harriet       daug 9                    ~
John           son 7                      ~

1841 HO107-91-27-Page 4  Wash Way Timperley Cheshire

John Nield 36 gardener born in county
Mary         34              not born in county
Elizabeth 12                     yes
Thomas    10
Ralf            8
Mary          5
Martha      3
Harriet      10 months

There are several marriages that could be of interest although I have not found one for John and Mary mother and father of Ralf Drinkwater Neild c1833, as Mary was born Longsight the marriage could well be in Lancashire.

2/Sept/1856 Bowden Richard Neild (tailor) and Hannah Drinkwater by license

29/July/1792 Bowden John Nield and Sarah Drinkwater

Births 1/Sept/1803 Bowden John Nield father John mother Sarah

There is also another Ralf Drinkwater Nield born Bowden 1806 again father John mother Sarah

hope this helps, if I can find anything else I will post again or if you have any queries please ask

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: DaveC on Thursday 12 May 05 20:05 BST (UK)
Thanks Peter, thats brilliant.
I have spent all day looking for Ralph Neild in the 1861 census on Ancestry without luck - he only shows up when I use the folio ref you gave me.
It looks like the Ancestry index is a bit flakey.
Cheers,
  Dave
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rosndel on Sunday 15 May 05 13:50 BST (UK)
Dear Peter,

 :) Thanks for your quick reply. we would love to be able to give you more details about Thomas, but we are starting to wonder if whether our ancestor James actually had a father at all.

The only information we have is from James birth death and marriage certificates.

The birth certificate gives James' birth place as Bollington, regristration district Macclesfield in 1838.

His marriage to Rachel Valentine was in the registration district Ashton Under Lynne, St Paul's Church Stayley on May 19 1861

He immigrated to Australia circa 1864 and he died in Gympie, Queensland, Australia in 1911.

On each certificate his father is listed as Thomas Deane, labourer. His mother is listed as Mary

Thanks again
Rosndel :-*




Peter

We are wondering whether you have found anything more on our search for records for a Thomas Deane and his wife, Mary (Boothby) in Cheshire, and their son James, born in Bollington near Macclesfield on the 14 April 1838. 
We noted a posting from Jean (registered name - Skylark) about Matthew Boothby born ca.1818 at Bollington and married in 1845 at Newcastle-on-Tyne.  We wondered whether he might be in the same family as Mary Boothby, being of the same family name in the same area.
Can you help us?

Rosndel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: skylark on Tuesday 17 May 05 16:26 BST (UK)
Hello

Sorry I've taken a while to get back to you.  My problem. - Matthew Boothby b. 1818 Bollington/Rainow father Joseph.

Matthew was in Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland in Oct 1845, when he got married, and never returned to Cheshire, as far as I can tell.  I don't know whether he went to Northumberland with his parents or alone. or which year prior to 1845.

I don't know of any siblings or his mothers name.

My information comes from his marriage certificate and 1861/71/81 census.  I haven't been able to check any Cheshire records so far.

I am stumped, hope you can help me.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 17 May 05 17:41 BST (UK)
Hi
      I have looked in both Bollington and Rainow and there is no sign of your Boothby family.
      I did notice in one of your previous post that Matthew had a child in 1848 and by 1861 he was a widower? can I suggest you search for the death of his wife, it may be an idea to search the area she died.

sorry cannot help at the moment

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Kalbarrie on Thursday 19 May 05 16:08 BST (UK)
When you have a moment, any information at all, on any "Hignett" male marriage, would be very much appreciated.
 
I don't think there will be all that many, but Thornton-le-Moors, Weaverham, Crowton, Onston would be the probable areas.

Thanking you, in anticipation,

Sandra Hignett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 19 May 05 16:31 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra
               There are more than you think I have found details of approx 150 male Hignet(t)(it)(itt) marriages in Cheshire the majority of which are in the areas you mention.
             Have you any specific names you are looking for ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Kalbarrie on Thursday 19 May 05 16:41 BST (UK)
Wow, how's that for service! 

The reason all this family history started is because i own a family bible and the first entry in it is by Samuel Hignett, born January 19, 1746/47 in Thornton le Moors.  He died in January 1817.

I live in Somerset, so I am trying to use the internet as much as I can, and came across this forum only this afternoon.

I have no records at all any earlier than 1746/47, but if you can find anything, with the spelling Hignett, and for now ignore the others, does that narrow your search down, to at least a manageable number?

For this reason I am unable to give you any Christian names, but a bit more information about "my Samuel".

He married Hannah Manifold on 5 October 1772 by licence.  Thomas Hewson was the vicar and the witnesses were Joseph Hignett and Peter Manifold.  We might assume (dangerous, I know!) that Joseph might have been his brother?

So for a start, maybe try Samuel, Joseph or William!


Thanks again,

Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: DaveC on Sunday 22 May 05 14:10 BST (UK)
Hi again,
I have one other Cheshire ancestor that you might be able to help with.

In 1861 I have:
    1 Buxton Rd      North Rode  Cheshire 
William Clowes    45  Capesthorne       Head     blacksmith
Elizabeth Clowes    44  Siddington       Wife 

thanks,
Dave Campbell
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 24 May 05 12:42 BST (UK)
Hi Dave

            There is a marriage for William Clowes and Elizabeth Clowes at St Peters church Prestbury dated 1838 this is from the http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
           Also there are some baptisms indexed in the IGI that are possibles for them http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

1851 HO107-2161-F 349/50  Smithy House North Rode

William Clowes head 37 blacksmith employing 1 man Capesthorne
Elizabeth          wife   37                                                  Siddington
James               son 12
Cranage Cheshire
Thomas                   11
North Rode
John                        8
William                    6
Edward                   4
Elizabeth      daug 2
Johnathan Goodwin serv 22 blacksmith Buglawton

1841 HO107-106-16-Page 1  Smithy Bank

William Clowes 25 blacksmith born in county
Elizabeth          25
James                2
Thomas             8 months

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: pamray on Friday 27 May 05 09:53 BST (UK)
Hi
l wondered if you could find any information on Cowdell of Stockport.
l know my g/g/g/grandfather Enoch was born 1797 to Joseph and Sarah Cowdell. l would like to find out where Joseph came from. His surname seems to have been changed from Cowgill to Coldhill to Cowdell some where along the way. Possibly originating as Cowgill from Thornton In Craven. West Yorkshire.
Enoch moved to Thornhill. West Yokshire but l don't know if he married Ann Dixon before he left Stockport.
Any information would be really helpfull.
Thanks in advance.
Regards Pam
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 27 May 05 12:19 BST (UK)
Hi Pam
           There doesn't seem to be a marriage for an Ann Dixon and a Enoch in the indexes that I have, which are fairly complete for that area.
           When did he move to Yorkshire was he there at the 1841 census ? Did Ann originate from Stockport ?
           I looked for a marriage between Joseph and Sarah but did not find that either.

Not a lot of help, sorry

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: pamray on Friday 27 May 05 13:51 BST (UK)
Hi Peter
Thanks for trying.
l'm not sure but l think they were probably in Yorkshire by then, either Thornhill or Thornton In Craven.
l know Enoch was born or christened July 1797 in Stockport but that's all.
Thanks for trying.
Regards Pam
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: DaveC on Friday 27 May 05 18:37 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Clowes information - its great.
I hadn't come across the cheshirebmd site before, do you know if there are similar sites for other counties - it looks like a better way than using 1837online?
Cheers,
   Dave Campbell
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 27 May 05 18:49 BST (UK)
Hi Dave

There are some other counties involved in the same type of index as Cheshire, maybe they are not so advanced as Cheshire but they are getting there.
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/

Also before trying the 1837 online you should give the free BMD site a look, again it is not complete.

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: DaveC on Saturday 28 May 05 14:17 BST (UK)
Yes - I'm familiar with freebmd.
The problem is with people that don't appear to exist - with freebmd it could be that they're not covered yet.
I'll try ukbmd.
  Dave
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: loopi_lynndi on Saturday 04 June 05 12:07 BST (UK)
hello
please can you tell me if there are any Frodsham parish records on the phillmores cd.
many thanks...i am new here and it looks a great site, already found links to some great places!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 04 June 05 13:43 BST (UK)
Hi
     Welcome to rootschat.

there are only marriage records, no birth or death sorry.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: loopi_lynndi on Sunday 05 June 05 00:11 BST (UK)
hi Peter thanx for looking for me
Lynndi
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: bnbackups on Sunday 05 June 05 09:04 BST (UK)
Thanks. Does the marriage information, name parents? If so I am looking for the parents of James Kirkham and Ellen Hallows who married circa August 1835 in Runcorn, Cheshire.

Barrie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 05 June 05 12:05 BST (UK)
Hi
     No sorry it is purely an index of marriages, it is even unlikely that the full parish register entry would give parents names. You would need to find James birth for that.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Lorrie127 on Monday 06 June 05 16:57 BST (UK)
Chris,
Could you please look on your cd for any references for Bennett family in Puddington Cheshire or Capenhurst.
Thanks
Lorrie

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 06 June 05 17:17 BST (UK)
Hi
     Have you a specific marriage that you are looking for ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Lorrie127 on Tuesday 07 June 05 09:07 BST (UK)
Hi Peter
I am looking for parents of Martin Bennett born 1786 in Puddington. As he married in the area too I am hoping his parents did.
Sorry if too little to go on if no luck I will try to research a little more info.
Regards
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: audrey on Tuesday 07 June 05 09:19 BST (UK)
Hi Peter
I am looking for parents of Martin Bennett born 1786 in Puddington. As he married in the area too I am hoping his parents did.
Sorry if too little to go on if no luck I will try to research a little more info.
Regards
this is the only Martin listed on BVRI

BENNETT, Martin   Christening
   Gender:   Male
   Christening Date:   1 Jun 1828   Recorded in:   Stockport, Cheshire, England
   Father:   John BENNETT
   Mother:   Axas

audrey
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: joycekimpton on Tuesday 07 June 05 19:56 BST (UK)
Hello,Chris,could you look for a Thomas Washington for me?He was born in 1654 in West Kirby, Ican,t find any info about his parents or any siblings at all.This has brought me to a complete brick wall in my tree.Here,s hoping Chris ,Thanks,Joyce.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: StarBlueUK on Wednesday 08 June 05 00:22 BST (UK)
Hi. Does your Cd-Rom have marriages in Macclesfield parish churches, e.g. St George's Church, St. Paul's Church, St. James's Church of Prestbury etc? I am looking for the marriage of one Thomas Minshull and Thomas Warrington (during the early 1800s?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: audrey on Wednesday 08 June 05 07:25 BST (UK)
Hi. Does your Cd-Rom have marriages in Macclesfield parish churches, e.g. St George's Church, St. Paul's Church, St. James's Church of Prestbury etc? I am looking for the marriage of one Thomas Minshull and Thomas Warrington (during the early 1800s?
threre is loads for Thomas Minshull hear is the earliest

MINSHULL, Thomas         Marriage
   Wife:   Elizabeth JENKS      
   Marriage Date:   25 Dec 1831   Recorded in:   Nantwich, Cheshire, England


WARRINGTON, Thomas         Marriage
   Wife:   Sarah THORNICROFT      
   Marriage Date:   6 Mar 1777   Recorded in:   Gawsworth, Cheshire, England


audrey
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 08 June 05 10:14 BST (UK)
Hello,Chris,could you look for a Thomas Washington for me?He was born in 1654 in West Kirby, Ican,t find any info about his parents or any siblings at all.This has brought me to a complete brick wall in my tree.Here,s hoping Chris ,Thanks,Joyce.

Hi Joyce
             Welcome to rootschat

    You are probably as far back as records go for Washingtons in the Wirral area, there are a few from mid 1500's on this index, http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: StarBlueUK on Wednesday 08 June 05 10:21 BST (UK)
Hi. Does your Cd-Rom have marriages in Macclesfield parish churches, e.g. St George's Church, St. Paul's Church, St. James's Church of Prestbury etc? I am looking for the marriage of one Thomas Minshull and Thomas Warrington (during the early 1800s?
threre is loads for Thomas Minshull hear is the earliest

MINSHULL, Thomas         Marriage
   Wife:   Elizabeth JENKS      
   Marriage Date:   25 Dec 1831   Recorded in:   Nantwich, Cheshire, England


WARRINGTON, Thomas         Marriage
   Wife:   Sarah THORNICROFT      
   Marriage Date:   6 Mar 1777   Recorded in:   Gawsworth, Cheshire, England


audrey

Thank you! I have a feeling that the latter Warrington entry might be the father of the Warrington I was looking for, as the timing is just about right and the place is also right. Is there a later entry for a Thomas Warrington marriage, say 1820s?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: StarBlueUK on Wednesday 08 June 05 10:22 BST (UK)
I forgot to add, Thomas Warrington would have married a woman named Elizabeth. I found him living with one in 1861 and 1871 censuses.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: audrey on Wednesday 08 June 05 11:37 BST (UK)
I forgot to add, Thomas Warrington would have married a woman named Elizabeth. I found him living with one in 1861 and 1871 censuses.

WARRINGTON, Thomas         Marriage
   Wife:   Elizabeth HARDERN      
   Marriage Date:   14 Nov 1832   Recorded in:   Gawsworth, Cheshire, England
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 08 June 05 14:50 BST (UK)
Hi
    It looks as if Thomas may have been married twice,I noticed in the census that he was a butcher. Married a bit young but worth a look could be a member of the same family

9/Dec/1811 Thomas Warrington butcher and Sarah Fillcock both living in Bosley.

The IGI has a baptism for Thomas 26/March/1797 at Gawsworth
father John Warrington
mother Mary

There is a record of a possible marriage for John

mary turner 5/Oct 1788 at St Peter Prestbury

Also found them in 1851 and 1841 census

1851 HO107-2160-F507  Crompton Road Macclesfield

Thomas Warrington head 55 butcher Swettenham Cheshire
Elizabeth                  wife 38               Bosley
William                      son 17 silk piecer Gawsworth
Ann                          daug 15 ~
Henry                         son 12 ~
Mary                         daug 11 ~            Macclesfield
John                          son 5
Joseph                       ~  2

1841 HO107-132-14-Page6  Crompton Road Macclesfield

Thomas Warrington 40 butcher Born in county
Elizabeth                  25
William                      7
Ann                           6
Henry                        3
Mary                          1


peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: StarBlueUK on Wednesday 08 June 05 16:02 BST (UK)
Thank you so much! Those census entries are definitely for my Thomas Warrington, the butcher! They closely match what I found on the 1861 and 1871 censuses. The marriage to Elizabeth sounds about the right time and I had considered the possibility of a first marriage, as Elizabeth would have been qutie young my g-g-g-g-grandmother Christiana Warrington (his daughter) was born. I am surprised that Christiana is not living with them in the 1841 census though as she was born somewhere between 1826 and 1831
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 08 June 05 16:33 BST (UK)
Hi
    There is a baptism at Bosley 14/March/1830 for a Christiania Filcock Warrington father Thomas mother Sarah.
   
    You can search the IGI ar this link there are lots of Warringtons

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

good luck, if you need any help give us a shout there is always someone around

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: StarBlueUK on Wednesday 08 June 05 16:56 BST (UK)
I'm 99.9% certain that's my g-g-g-g-grandmother! Thank you very much for your help. I stumbled upon this site completely by accident and i am very, very glad that i did! I'm off to look at the site you've suggested now! :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: whales on Sunday 12 June 05 15:58 BST (UK)
Hello Chris.

Would these records cover the Kingsley and Frodsham area.

Thank you.

Marie.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 12 June 05 16:09 BST (UK)
Hi
    I have mostley marriage indexes, but if you have a specific name your looking for let me know and I will see what can be found.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: junelewis on Tuesday 14 June 05 18:18 BST (UK)
HiChris, Do you have anything on James Crowder 1796 neston married Mary ??? regards June   
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 15 June 05 12:32 BST (UK)
Hi June

           Sorry there is nothing around that date anywhere in Cheshire. Can you tell us where and when the first child was born?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: junelewis on Wednesday 15 June 05 13:46 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, As far as i know it is Elizabeth her Baptism was
21/12/1815 they had 10 children in all { Raby}
regards June
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 15 June 05 15:23 BST (UK)
Hi
    Sorry cannot find them on any Cheshire c of e records indexes, The Cheshire parish records site show the batisms of the children but not there wedding.
    Maybe they married out of the county,was Mary from Cheshire?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: junelewis on Wednesday 15 June 05 15:34 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, Mary was from Neston 1792 and James 1796 was a Shoe Maker on the census they lived at 82, Public House
Raby Cheshire on the 1851 census Regards June
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: ChorleyLass on Wednesday 15 June 05 22:56 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

I'm looking for the marriage of James Lamb and Mary Ann McQuade.
James bor abt 1825 Winwick
Mary born abt 1831 Warrington
Eldest child born 1848 Warrington
Info from 1861 census
I've searched BDM but no luck.
Regards
Sheila
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 16 June 05 11:22 BST (UK)
Hi Sheila
               Welcome to Rootschat

 I have found a record in the Cheshire BMD

1853 James Lamb and Mary Ann Mcquade at St Elphins Warrington

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: ChorleyLass on Thursday 16 June 05 13:02 BST (UK)
Thanks Peter

Not only have you given me a possible further link but also a further source of info.

Regards

Sheila
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Jools65 on Monday 20 June 05 16:48 BST (UK)
Hi Cheshire Researchers

Today, I was given the following CD:

Cheshire Parish Records by S & N Genealogy Supplies

The CD allows you to browse, search and print Marriage Registers for all 5 volumes of W.P.W Phillimores Cheshire Parish Record Transcripts.

The dates covered are 17th and 18th Century

If you require me to look through these records for an ancestor of yours, please supply as much information as possible; and I will try to oblige

Chris in 1066Land  
 
Hi Chris hopefully you can help me as im stuck with My ancestors baptism Roger Marsland born 1825 from the stockport area of Cheshire. I do have Rogers marriage and his father was John Marsland but have no idea who the mother is. How would i be able to find the rest of Rogers siblings as well? Im new to this so hopefully you can help me many thanks Jools.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 20 June 05 17:46 BST (UK)
Hi Jools

           Welcome to rootschat.

    Unfortunatly my indexes are for marriages only, and there is nothing showin up in the IGI for a Roger Marsland. I could look in the 1841 census to try and find him with his family, I see that he married a Jane Hall in 1848 can you tell me where they lived and what other info do you have, like where children born and other census info.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Jools65 on Monday 20 June 05 17:57 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, What a lovely quick response.
In 1851 roger was living in Stamford Street ashton under lyne (st Peters) he had children John Marsland 1849 and Louisa 1850, Maria 1853. Roger died in 1858. Roger was a Landsurveyor and i have looked up Trades description in case he had his own business, nothing there, although on Rogers marriage cert his father was a Gentleman, occupation (Draper).
thats all the info i have thanks Julie.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: audrey on Monday 20 June 05 18:35 BST (UK)
Hi Jools

           Welcome to rootschat.

    Unfortunatly my indexes are for marriages only, and there is nothing showin up in the IGI for a Roger Marsland. I could look in the 1841 census to try and find him with his family, I see that he married a Jane Hall in 1848 can you tell me where they lived and what other info do you have, like where children born and other census info.

peterbennett

hear you are save Peter a job

MARSLAND, Roger   Christening
   Gender:   Male
   Christening Date:   26 Sep 1824   Recorded in:   Stockport, Cheshire, England
   Father:   John Marsland
   Mother:   Elizabeth


audrey
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Jools65 on Monday 20 June 05 18:47 BST (UK)
Audrey....Thankyou soooo very much! im so pleased. Ermmmm wonder if you could look up for rogers siblings by any chance if its not too much trouble. How did you do that by the way im interested in any tips or tricks thanks Jools  ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Wattsy on Monday 20 June 05 18:51 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

I am hoping you will be able to help me.  I am looking for the marriage of James Dawson and Catherine in Macclesfield or Tytherington, Macclesfield around 1820`s.  I know from the 1841 Census that Catherine was not born in the County but I am hoping that they were married in Cheshire.

Any help would be appreciated.
Many thanks

Wattsy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: audrey on Monday 20 June 05 19:26 BST (UK)
Audrey....Thankyou soooo very much! im so pleased. Ermmmm wonder if you could look up for rogers siblings by any chance if its not too much trouble. How did you do that by the way im interested in any tips or tricks thanks Jools  ;D

MARSLAND, Samuel   Chr   1820   Engl   Ches   Stockp
Fa:   John MARSLAND
Mo:   Elizabeth MARSLAND
MARSLAND, Maria   Chr   1822   Engl   Ches   Stockp
Fa:   John MARSLAND
Mo:   Elizabeth MARSLAND
MARSLAND, Maria   Chr   1822   Engl   Ches   Stockp
Fa:   John MARSLAND
Mo:   Elizabeth
MARSLAND, Roger   Chr   1824   Engl   Ches   Stockp
Fa:   John Marsland
Mo:   Elizabeth
MARSLAND, Joshua   Chr   1826   Engl   Ches   Stockp
Fa:   John MARSLAND
Mo:   Elizabeth
MARSLAND, Benjamin   Chr   1828   Engl   Ches   Stockp
Fa:   John MARSLAND
Mo:   Betty
MARSLAND, Samuel   Chr   1837   Engl   Ches   Stockp
Fa:   John MARSLAND
Mo:   Eliza MARSLAND
MARSLAND, Edward   Chr   1842   Engl   Ches   Stockp
Fa:   John MARSLAND
Mo:   Eliza MARSLAND


audrey
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Jools65 on Monday 20 June 05 19:30 BST (UK)
Audrey many thanks for your quick response. and huge thanks jools  :D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 21 June 05 14:18 BST (UK)
Hi Wattsy

   
Quote
I am hoping you will be able to help me.  I am looking for the marriage of James Dawson and Catherine in Macclesfield or Tytherington, Macclesfield around 1820`s.  I know from the 1841 Census that Catherine was not born in the County but I am hoping that they were married in Cheshire.

Any help would be appreciated.
Many thanks

Wattsy

       I have found a record of a marriage at Leek Staffordshire of James Dawson Inn keeper widower and Catherine Low on the 21/Aug/1836 by licence.
     
peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: egardner on Tuesday 21 June 05 22:58 BST (UK)
Pott Shrigley, Prestbury Parish, St. Christopher's - William Hallam, son of John and Hannah Hallam, was christened 18 April 1819. He had a brother James who was christened in May 1816. I have no idea if there were other children of John and Hannah. Would it be difficult to check for a marriage of John Hallam and Hannah [--?--] at Pott Shrigley from, say, 1800 on? I hope I'm not sending you on a wild goose chase.       Eve
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 22 June 05 11:31 BST (UK)
Hi Eve
           Welcome to rootschat  :)
The IGI at the link below indicates these baptisms (as well as the ones you have) to John and Hannah

Elizabeth 4/March/1810  Henry 25/Oct/1812

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

I have found a record  John Hallam (blacksmith) marr Hannah Lomas at Prestbury 12/May/1795 both parties of Pott Shrigley.

There is also another record of a John Hallam (blacksmith) marr Peggy Hooley 11/July/1786 at Prestbury

children to John and Peggy baptised at Pott Shrigley,

Betty 1/July/1787  Mary 7/March/1790  Milly 13/March/1792.

hope this helps

peterbennett
   
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: junelewis on Wednesday 22 June 05 12:31 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, Did you have any luck finding James Crowder
married to mary  regards June
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 22 June 05 15:07 BST (UK)
Hi June
            So sorry I did not reply earlier  :-[ but I could not find a marriage on any indexes that I have for Cheshire. I did wonder if they had married in Liverpool which would not be unusual, and found a marriage at St Nicholas between a James Crowder and a Mary Rogers dated 9/Jan/1815, I checked the births in the parish register for Neston and found a Mary Rogers baptised 3/March/1793 father John mother Margaret.
           I could not find a marriage or death for this Mary Rogers in Cheshire prior to 1815 so its possible she could be the one, but how to prove it I don't know, the St Nicholas parish records may hold the answer.
          I also noted that James and Mary had children named John and Margaret, mind you with ten children the odds are in favour of a match.
          Can I suggest you place a request on the Lancashire board and see what can be found.

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: junelewis on Wednesday 22 June 05 15:34 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, That is Mary her name was Rogers and got married Liverpool you have given me her parents thank you regards June
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: egardner on Wednesday 22 June 05 18:29 BST (UK)
Oh, thankyou so much! What a step foreward (backward?) this is.   Eve
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: egardner on Wednesday 22 June 05 18:33 BST (UK)
Peter, it seems my reply to your information about the Hallams at Pott Shrigley turned up in the wrong spot. I'm still trying to understand how this site works. It surely does work! that I know! Thankyou again                Eve
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Jools65 on Wednesday 22 June 05 20:40 BST (UK)
Hi i am having trouble finding the marriage of Joshua Marsland to Mary Burdekin. The first child being born 1849 so presumebly marriage c1848. They lived  in Chorlton on Medlock Lancs. Joshua was born stockport and mary sheffield yorks. I have searched BMD no such luck! can you help me find them please..... Jools.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Wattsy on Thursday 23 June 05 10:34 BST (UK)


       I have found a record of a marriage at Leek Staffordshire of James Dawson Inn keeper widower and Catherine Low on the 21/Aug/1836 by licence.
     
peterbennett
Quote


Hi Peter

That is really wonderful - not what I expected but yet another avenue to explore.  I am not familiar with marriage by licence - how and where would I find this information?  Is it likely to provide any further help?  Thanks again for your continued assistance.

Wattsy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 23 June 05 11:12 BST (UK)
Hi Wattsy

               The marriage licence is normally a document that contains the details of the marriage, place, date, bride, groom and witnesses (not nessaraly parents) the church would be St Edwards and the records are kept at Staffs record office. You can find details of how to obtain a copy on this link, you may have to pay.

http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/portal/page?_pageid=47,70360&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

While I remember I had a email chat with a Macclesfield friend who has done a lot of reseach into pubs and breweries in Macclesfield and he sent me all the info he has relating to the Dawsons in the licence trade in Macclesfield,much of it just confirms what is known already plus some extras. details below


Checking my records for the White Bear, King Edward St. - I have the following licensees listed (mainly from trade directories)
 
1818        Joseph Shaw
1822-3     E Dawson (London Directory)
1824        Elizabeth Dawson     (Piggot & Dean)
1825        ditto
1828-30    ditto                        (Piggot)
1838        James Dawson        (I have a mention of James in 1831 also)
1841        ditto
1844        ditto                        (Slaters)
1846        ditto                        (Williams)
1848        ditto                        (Slaters)
1850        Edw. Dawson           
 
As for the Lamb, Stanley Street. - I have the following relating to the Dawson family:-
 
1818        Thomas Dawson        (Piggot)
1822-3      James Dawson
1828-30    ditto                        (Piggot)
 
 
In Pigot's 1838 Directory there are 3 Dawsons listed:-
 
Mrs Elizabeth Dawson        Great King Street
James Dawson, vict, White Bear, King Edward Street
John Dawson, vict, Struggler, Watercotes
 
The first two are also listed in a Piggot directory for 1841
 
In Slater's Liverpool Directory we have;-
 
Dawson Mrs Betty, Great King St.
Dawson James, vict. White Bear, King Edward S.
Dawson John, shopkeeper, Park Green
 
By 1857 the only directory entry (relating to the licenced trade)  is for a John Dawson (beer retailer - Steeple Street. Possibly the Franklin). He is still there in 1860.
 
By 1864 no Dawsons associated with the trade.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Wattsy on Friday 24 June 05 14:01 BST (UK)





Hi Wattsy

               The marriage licence is normally a document that contains the details of the marriage, place, date, bride, groom and witnesses (not nessaraly parents) the church would be St Edwards and the records are kept at Staffs record office. You can find details of how to obtain a copy on this link, you may have to pay.

http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/portal/page?_pageid=47,70360&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

While I remember I had a email chat with a Macclesfield friend who has done a lot of reseach into pubs and breweries in Macclesfield and he sent me all the info he has relating to the Dawsons in the licence trade in Macclesfield,much of it just confirms what is known already plus some extras. details below


Checking my records for the White Bear, King Edward St. - I have the following licensees listed (mainly from trade directories)
 
1818        Joseph Shaw
1822-3     E Dawson (London Directory)
1824        Elizabeth Dawson     (Piggot & Dean)
1825        ditto
1828-30    ditto                        (Piggot)
1838        James Dawson        (I have a mention of James in 1831 also)
1841        ditto
1844        ditto                        (Slaters)
1846        ditto                        (Williams)
1848        ditto                        (Slaters)
1850        Edw. Dawson           
 
As for the Lamb, Stanley Street. - I have the following relating to the Dawson family:-
 
1818        Thomas Dawson        (Piggot)
1822-3      James Dawson
1828-30    ditto                        (Piggot)
 
 
In Pigot's 1838 Directory there are 3 Dawsons listed:-
 
Mrs Elizabeth Dawson        Great King Street
James Dawson, vict, White Bear, King Edward Street
John Dawson, vict, Struggler, Watercotes
 
Hello Peter
Yet again I have to thank you and especially your Macclesfield friend who supplied all the above information. I really don`t know whether to scream with delight or frustration.
Could I ask your opinion on the above - do you think it is likely that the original licensee of the pubs was one Thomas Dawson who presumably died and then the license was taken over by his wife Mrs Elizabeth Dawson, who in turn passed it to their son James?  Does this seem likely?  The problem seems to be that there are two separate public houses involved.  Would the original licenses which are housed at Chester hold any additional information that might clarify the situation?
Any help would be appreciated.
Kind regards
Wattsy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 24 June 05 14:47 BST (UK)
Hi
    The original licence would tell you who it was granted to.
It does look though that James took over the White Bear around mid 1830's prior to that Thomas and Elizabeth seem to have run the two premises between themselves, but whether they both held a licence or not I couldn't guess.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: FOXSTEL on Friday 24 June 05 18:52 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Could u find my relation William Stelfox's parents names.  he was born 1804/05 he was a waterman from Northwich an later married vAnn Vernon.

Thanks, Alex
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Wattsy on Friday 24 June 05 20:40 BST (UK)
Hi
    The original licence would tell you who it was granted to.
It does look though that James took over the White Bear around mid 1830's prior to that Thomas and Elizabeth seem to have run the two premises between themselves, but whether they both held a licence or not I couldn't guess.


Hi Peter
Thanks again for your help and knowledge. 
Wattsy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Jools65 on Saturday 25 June 05 10:47 BST (UK)
Hi can someone help me find John Marsland in census 1851 born chester stockport married to Elizabeth ? of lancs madien name might be Wood not confirmed yet.  in 1861 he was living in Birch Hall civil parish rusholme
lancs
RG9 2874
ocuupation is manufacturer of Thread or perhaps Draper
i would like to find them in 1851
in 1861 johns age was 76 elizabeths age 72 with daughter Harriet living with them in 1861 age 32
can anyone help please
thx Jools x ;)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 25 June 05 13:01 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Could u find my relation William Stelfox's parents names.  he was born 1804/05 he was a waterman from Northwich an later married vAnn Vernon.

Thanks, Alex

           Hi Alex
                      I am sorry but I only have marriages in my index and his birth is not shown in the IGI online index, it is possible for the Cheshire RO to lookup the births in Northwich parish records send them an email at the address in this link you never know your luck.

http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.htm

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 25 June 05 15:32 BST (UK)
Hi i am having trouble finding the marriage of Joshua Marsland to Mary Burdekin. The first child being born 1849 so presumably marriage c1848. They lived  in Chorlton on Medlock Lancs. Joshua was born stockport and mary sheffield yorks. I have searched BMD no such luck! can you help me find them please..... Jools.

       Hi Jools

                    I have had no luck finding your family marrying in Cheshire, It was normal practice to marry in the parish of the bride, I would say that Sheffield or Manchester (first child born there) would be the places to look.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 25 June 05 15:48 BST (UK)
Hi can someone help me find John Marsland in census 1851 born chester stockport married to Elizabeth ? of lancs madien name might be Wood not confirmed yet.  in 1861 he was living in Birch Hall civil parish rusholme
lancs
RG9 2874
ocuupation is manufacturer of Thread or perhaps Draper
i would like to find them in 1851
in 1861 johns age was 76 elizabeths age 72 with daughter Harriet living with them in 1861 age 32
can anyone help please
thx Jools x ;)

            Hi
                It would seem that when I checked the 1861 census it says that Elizabeth was born in Hough Lincolnshire, not Lancashire. It is likely that they would have married in Lincolnshire or Rusholme areas, as their daughter Harriet was born in Rusholme c1829 I would suggest they haven't moved from that area and you should look there for an 1851 census lookup.
              You need some local knowledge, if you post on the Lancs board at this link you should get some help. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,233.0.html

regards and good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Jools65 on Saturday 25 June 05 15:52 BST (UK)
 thanks peter i'll do that  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Makurosu on Tuesday 28 June 05 20:53 BST (UK)
Could you please see if there is a marriage for John Clayton and Ann Grady (possibly "O'Grady")?  They had their first child, Mary Jane, in Stockport in Apr/Jun 1845.  Ann was born about 1823 in County Mayo, Ireland.  I can't find any marriage record for them at the Cheshire BMD.

I'm not sure where the marriage would have taken place, but my ancestors mostly lived in St. Mary's ecclesiastical district, Stockport First sub-registration district, if that helps.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: MaryA on Tuesday 28 June 05 21:38 BST (UK)
Hi and thank you for your offer of help.

I have very sparse information I'm afraid.  On every census between 1871 to 1901 and also her marriage certificate Margaret Anne Kent birth date works out to be 1845 and her place of birth is Hinderton, Neston.  I have failed to find her birth entry in the indexes, nor have I found her in either the 1851 census for the Neston area or 1861 census for Cheshire or Lancashire, and she was a servant in the 1871, having moved to Wavertree by then, so I also have no idea what other family she has except for her father named on the marriage certificate as Thomas Kent, Blacksmith.

Is it possible that your records could show a marriage for this man in the 1830/40s hopefully in the Neston area?  I know there is one with Anne Mills in Chester, St Mary in 1839, would this be too far away from Neston? could there be one nearer?

Thank you for trying to help.
Mary
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 29 June 05 15:46 BST (UK)
Could you please see if there is a marriage for John Clayton and Ann Grady (possibly "O'Grady")?  They had their first child, Mary Jane, in Stockport in Apr/Jun 1845.  Ann was born about 1823 in County Mayo, Ireland.  I can't find any marriage record for them at the Cheshire BMD.

I'm not sure where the marriage would have taken place, but my ancestors mostly lived in St. Mary's ecclesiastical district, Stockport First sub-registration district, if that helps.

Hi
      Sorry there is nothing showing at all.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 29 June 05 16:14 BST (UK)
Hi and thank you for your offer of help.

I have very sparse information I'm afraid.  On every census between 1871 to 1901 and also her marriage certificate Margaret Anne Kent birth date works out to be 1845 and her place of birth is Hinderton, Neston.  I have failed to find her birth entry in the indexes, nor have I found her in either the 1851 census for the Neston area or 1861 census for Cheshire or Lancashire, and she was a servant in the 1871, having moved to Wavertree by then, so I also have no idea what other family she has except for her father named on the marriage certificate as Thomas Kent, Blacksmith.

Is it possible that your records could show a marriage for this man in the 1830/40s hopefully in the Neston area?  I know there is one with Anne Mills in Chester, St Mary in 1839, would this be too far away from Neston? could there be one nearer?

Thank you for trying to help.
Mary

Hi
    There is a marriage in Neston 1833 between Thomas Kent and Jane Evans. It can be found in the http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/
website.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: MaryA on Wednesday 29 June 05 17:33 BST (UK)
Thank you Peter, only 12 years before she was born so well worth keeping on file, at least its in the right place, pity I couldn't find them in the 1851 census though  ???

Mary
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: gillbill on Wednesday 29 June 05 18:21 BST (UK)
Hi
I am looking for the marriage of John Holt to Ann. They had a son baptised at St Bartholomew's Ch. Wilmslow in 1807 & church register says they were of Handforth, Wilmslow. Nothing else known except son George was in Wilmslow 1841 & died there 1880.
Thanks
gillbill
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: DaveC on Sunday 03 July 05 21:22 BST (UK)
Hi,
Could you help me again please?
I am looking for info on Thomas Clowes born 1787 married sarah rigby in 1812.
I have them in the 1851 census and it would be nice to see the entry for 1841.

Also, James Clowes - father of William Clowes. William was born 1814.
There are 2 possibles for James in the 1861 - 1787 siddington and 1787 bosley.

Thanks
 Dave Campbell
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 04 July 05 12:48 BST (UK)
Hi
    Can you give me the full details of the 1851 census you have for Thomas Clowes 1787.

    The 1841 census is not name indexed, which means I need to find then in 51 and then search the same area in 1841.

    The James and Jane you found in the 1861 are not indexed in 1851, nor are they in Siddington in 1841.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: DaveC on Monday 04 July 05 14:39 BST (UK)
Hi,
This is the 1851 for thomas:
Knutsford Rd ,Swan      Cranage, Cheshire   
Thomas Clowes       64          Male   
Sarah Clowes       59 North Road        Female   
Edward Clowes       33 Siddington        Male   
Mary Clowes       30 Siddington        Female   
John Clowes       20 Siddington        Male
Ellen Clowes        5 Cranage        Female       
Thomas Barber       19 Goostrey?        Male   
Thomas Hoalbride       22 Rushworth,Yorkshire          Male   

Dave
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 04 July 05 15:11 BST (UK)
Hi Dave
             The family your looking for isn't in or around the Cranage area in 1841 sorry.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: DaveC on Monday 04 July 05 20:52 BST (UK)
OK - thanks for looking
   Dave Campbell
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: pamray on Monday 18 July 05 10:03 BST (UK)
Hi
l wonder if either of you could possibly find the marriage of John Tipping to a Mariah ? possibly Knutsford.
John was born 1811 and their first child was born 1841 in Liverpool.
Sorry this is sketchy but it's all the info l have on him in Cheshire.
Regards Pam
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 18 July 05 10:31 BST (UK)
Hi Pam
          Sorry there is nothing for a John and Mariah showing up in any of the Cheshire indexes.
            I see from the 1861 census that Mariah was from Rochdale, maybe thats another place to look.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: audrey on Monday 18 July 05 10:47 BST (UK)
a long shot its the only one to marriah on BVRI



TIPPIN, John         Marriage
   Wife:   Marriah PRICE      
   Marriage Date:   9 Nov 1828   Recorded in:   Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, England

audrey
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: pamray on Monday 18 July 05 14:53 BST (UK)
Hi Peter
Thankyou for looking anyway.
l found a possible marriage John tipping to Maria Clegg in bury. l'm not sure of it though!!
Thanks again Pam
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: pamray on Monday 18 July 05 14:55 BST (UK)
Hi Audrey
Thankyou for the information.
That's two possibles now  :-\
Thanks again
Regards Pam
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: pamray on Monday 18 July 05 15:00 BST (UK)
Hi again
Would it be too cheeky if l asked for a birth look up on John Tipping b.1811 Knutsford  :P
Pretty please
Regards Pam
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Janice Pedder on Sunday 31 July 05 14:35 BST (UK)
Hello Peter, Could you see if a Matthew Horrocks was baptised in Warrington in about 1832. His father was Peter. I'm afraid that's all I know about him.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 31 July 05 15:32 BST (UK)
Hi Janice

             Sorry can not find anything for a Matthew Horrocks, the family do not seem to be in Warrington on the 18411851 census either.
           The only record I can find is for a Matthew Horrocks 1832 Wigan father John.

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Janice Pedder on Tuesday 02 August 05 08:08 BST (UK)
Thanks for looking Peter. I have a feeling the family had moved to Manchester by 1841. However, would it be possible for you to see if there is any record of a marriage for Peter Horrocks before 1837 (in Warringto).
Also I'm looking for Mary Slater, in Warrington, a widow in 1841 and a Joseph Slater b ca 1798 and Matthew Slater b1812. Finally, and this is a long shot was a Matthew Slater born to Elizabeth in 1832 or thereabouts?
Thank you for your efforts, Janice.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 02 August 05 11:39 BST (UK)
Hi Janice
                The only BMD records that I can veiw prior to 1837 for the Warrington area are from ones extracted from the IGI.
                In there is a record dated 19/Aug/1832 Matthew Slater mother Elizabeth.

regards

peterbennett
               
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Janice Pedder on Tuesday 02 August 05 15:03 BST (UK)
Thanks Peter. You're an inspiration!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: suemuffy on Tuesday 02 August 05 17:43 BST (UK)
Hi,
I am looking for traces of William and Esther POWELL of Greasby, William was a farm labourer and they had children Mary b.1808, b.William 1810. Their son Thomas b.1815 later went to live at Hillview Farm West Kirby. I also have another son William b.1818. Any information would be welcome, thanks
Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 04 August 05 17:42 BST (UK)
Hi
    The only marriage I can find is 27/April/1805 at St Peters Liverpool between William Powell and Ester Clark, it would not be unusual for a couple from the Wirral to wed in Liverpool.
    This was found in the IGI index http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

1851 census HO107-2174-F133  West Kirby

William Powell sen Head 78 farmer 8 acres born West Kirby
Esther                    wife 72
William                    son 32
Ellen                 daug/i/law 27  Woodchurch
Esther               daug 28  West Kirby
Margaret         g/daug 3

You will find both their births in the Cheshire PR at West Kirby
William 1773 look under Powel with one L, and Esther Clark 1779.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Chattykathy on Thursday 04 August 05 22:42 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,   I've recently been posting for  the following group--- if you have already searched for them, then my apologises.

1861 Address:  68 Shaw Heath Stockport
Father:  Edwin Howe King
1st wife/mother of these Children:  Catherine Mottram Goddard

Marriages of :
dau Martha King b. 1845 Stockport  Milliners Apprentice

dau Ann/Anne/Annie Spark King  b. 1850 Stockport

son Edwin E. (Ebenezer) King. b. 1853 Stockport    --- says  “marr.” in 1881 but a Lodger @ 8 Old Hall Road, Sales, Cheshire  --  no wife present

son Thomas M. King b. 1857 Stockport  --  lodging at same place as above Edwin, but unm.


Address:  1851 Henshaw Lane, St. Thomas Stockport
                1861 Stockport
                1871 Ashwood? Lane, Stockport
Father:  Rueben King

Marriages of: 
son Edwin  (Edward??) King  b. 1839 in London m. Eliza Collier?? 1856-1860?? in Stockport  Profession possibly a printer

dau Maria M. King b. 1835 in London  m. a Mr. X Lucy   approx. 1855   In Stockport

Any other children of Rueben and Eliza Matilda (Tempest) King ????


Thanks so much! 
kathy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: suemuffy on Friday 05 August 05 12:12 BST (UK)
Thanks Peter, I went to the central library last night and checked the wedding in the church records but it said labourer of this parish and Esther the same parish so wasn't sure if it could be the same couple.  I has been looking for William's birth and had no success but did find a burial in 1871 on 6th Feb aged 98 so that was him! I will request for someone to check the 61 and 71 census now to see what happened to the farm, I assume young Will and family continued to live there until it was overrun with a housing estate, Hillview Ave marks it's demise (I checked on an 19C map last night).  Meanwhile more searching!
Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Judy B. on Saturday 06 August 05 19:07 BST (UK)
Hi,

Have been looking for a marriage forever and this is probably a long shot.  John Jackson (born Lymm) married Ann/Anna/Anne/Annie Cowsill (born Lymm) c. 1854, both born c. 1823/24.  I believe both resided in Lancashire in the 1850 time frame.  I may have found John in 1841 and 1851, but I have doubts on the entries.  Ann/Anne/etc. has not been found until 1861.   They do not appear on the indexes for any year.  I hired a researcher who has assured me their marriage doesn't appear in the Lymm parish registers.  I know their births are both entered, but nothing else.

If you could look and see if there is anything, anywhere for a John Jackson/Ann Cowsill marriage, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Judy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 07 August 05 17:43 BST (UK)
Hi Judy
            I can find nothing in any of the Cheshire BMD indexes for the marriage, did they actually marry, or had Annie been married before and so married with another name ?

sorry not to helpfull

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: sheikhalbadou on Monday 08 August 05 15:19 BST (UK)
Hello Chris

I wonder if you could find the marriage of Susannah Brooke to ? Stevenson in Malpas or possibly Harthill. Don't have an exact year but probably around the 1760s.

Thanks very much!

Sue :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Lorrie127 on Tuesday 09 August 05 12:08 BST (UK)
I am hoping you may have the marriage of George Rosedale to Frances Wynne in Shotwick c1790 on your records disc.
Any information about either would be greatly received.
Regards
Lorrie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 09 August 05 12:26 BST (UK)
Hi Lorrie
           
             Yes the marriage is indexed but it gives no other details than St Michaels 13/9/1790.
             If you send an email to the RO at the address on the link below and give them the details you have it will not take them many minutes to look up the original.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Lorrie127 on Tuesday 09 August 05 12:40 BST (UK)
Thank you Peter will try that. Up to now have found no details at all about Frances so hoping for breakthrough.
Regards
Lorrie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Lorrie127 on Tuesday 09 August 05 15:24 BST (UK)
Peter,
Could I be cheeky & ask for another check of your disc for the marriage of Richard Rosedale & Mary Flewitt in 1756?
Any other details would be appreciated.
Cheers
Lorrie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 09 August 05 15:33 BST (UK)
Hi
     There are two versions of the same marriage in the index both dated 2/8/1756 at St Oswalds Shotwick the differance is in the spelling of Mary's name in one its Fluitt and the other say's Plewitt.

    There is a note that say's Richard Junior

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Lorrie127 on Tuesday 09 August 05 15:50 BST (UK)
Thank you Peter.
I havent yet found baptism records for either of these. I have checked IGI, CPRdb any other suggestions?
Looks like I may have to plan a trip to the CRO.
Regards
Lorrie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 09 August 05 15:56 BST (UK)
Hi Lorrie

              Sorry, there is no other way except the RO, it will be a few years before the CPRdb is complete.

            Although the last marriage for Richard said junior I cannot find one for a Richard senior, so you may need to be looking in another county to get further back.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Judy B. on Tuesday 09 August 05 16:39 BST (UK)
Thank you Peter,

I thought ihe Jackson/Cowsill marriage request was a long shot and it appears so.  I have checked out an earlier marriage of Ann Cowsill, but the facts didn't match Ann's details.
The suggestion that they were never legally married is looking to be the answer.

Thanks again.

Judy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: suemuffy on Friday 12 August 05 16:46 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, 
I wonder would you mind confirming what happened to this family in 1861,1871 and 1891. I know Margaret died aged 7 and they have 2 more daughters and 2 sons and  move to the Black Horse pub in West Kirby before 1881. Eldest son Thomas takes over the farm (I found his and Hannah's grave in churchyard of the church were they were married, d.1895 and 1903 respectively) and William Snr dies in 1871 at the grand age of 98.  I'm trying to find out what happened to Hill View farm in those years. In 1881 nephew John is living next door in Victory Cottage but I can't find his marriage to Elizabeth and then they disappear. Thanks

1851 census HO107-2174-F133  West Kirby (Hill View Farm)

William Powell sen Head 78 farmer 8 acres born West Kirby
Esther                    wife 72
William                    son 32
Ellen                 daug/i/law 27  Woodchurch
Esther               daug 28  West Kirby
Margaret         g/daug 3
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 13 August 05 15:23 BST (UK)
Hi Sue

          Non of the 1861 census indexes show William sen or junior as being in or around West Kirby/Grange area, my guess is that they have been missed by the enumerator/transcriber for some reason. I have my own copy of the Cheshire 1861 and have searched every page and not found them, I did notice that there was no "pub" shown in Grange so I checked the Whites 1860 directory and this shows William Powell as victular of the Chesnut Horse, so why he was missed I can't imagine.

From the 1860 directory
Grange is a small township in the Lower Division, of the Wirral Hundred, 8.5 miles N. from Great Neston, contains 850 acres of land, and in 1851 had 19 houses and 105 inhabitants, of whom 50 were males and 49 females. Rateable value £1,044 12s. The village of Grange is sometimes called Little Caldy. John Shaw Leigh, Esq., is the principal landowner and lord of the manor, The trustees of Bennett,'s charity own 242 acres in this township.
DIRECTORY.—William Peers, blacksmith; William Powell,victualler, Chesnut Horse;  Priscilla Boberts, shopkeeper; and Anthony Averill New House, Henry Brown, The HALL> George Mutch, William Rainford, and Leonard Ray, Farmers.


    The rest of the family in the 1861/1871 is shown below.

1861 RG9-2638-F57  West Kirby

John and Elizabeth Wood Merchants + 10 servants and family
Esther Powell 38 laundress West Kirby

1861 RG9-2638-F52  West Kirby


Thomas Powell head 47 ag labourer W K
Hannah            wife 37                      Brimstage
Esther              daug 13                     W K
George               son 10
James                        8
Elizabeth           daug 5

1871 RG10- 3743-F66  Black Horse Grange

William Powell head 53 Innkeeper and farmer W K
Ellen                wife 45                                      Woodchurch
Sarah              daug 18                                     W K
John                 son 15
Charles                    4                                       Grange

1871 RG10-3743-F63  West Kirby

Thomas Powell head 55 farmer 23 acres W K
Hannah             wife 45                           Brimstage
George              son 20 lab at home       W K
James                      18 ~
Elizabeth          daug 14 at home
Thomas             son 7 scholar

1891 RG12-2876-F20  Lang Lane West Kirby

Thomas Powell head 75 farmer W K
Hannah            wife 45              Brimstage
Thomas             son 26 farn serv W K

1891   I think George is in Wavertree Liverpool ?

1891 RG12-2876-F96  Deva Road West Kirby

James Powell head 38 coal dealer W K
Kate               wife 31                     Wolverhampton
Eva                 daug 4                     W K
Stanley           son 3                       W K

1891 RG12-2876-F72  Birkett Road West Kirby

Charles W Powell head unwed 24 lab coal Grange
Ellen                    mother 67 living on own means Woodchurch

if there is anything else you need please ask

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Ter1 on Thursday 25 August 05 14:43 BST (UK)
Hi Chris, I am trying to confirm the parentage of William Brockley who married Sarah Latham in Minshull on the 29th Dec 1836. He was born in Leighton nr Crewe, according to the Census stats 1813-1815 ,depending upon which year you use! However, there is some difficulty about this because his birth certificate details indicate that he was born in 1812.(He died in 1878 in Holywell, Flints aged 66 yrs) Consequently ,on searching  some of the parish registers for his likely parents, I'm having some problems in identifying likely parents. I have discovered, for example, that a William Brockley  married Elizabeth Barrow  in the parish of Nantwich on the 19th January 1814 and that a son William was born to William and Elizabeth Brockley in Leighton Green ,Coppenhall on the 21st March 1815,probably the same William and Elizabeth mentioned earlier. Clearly, my concerns arise from the earlier birthdate of 1812 suggested by the death certificate and I am wondering whether you would be able to identify from your information source other likely marriages in neighbouring parishes around the 1810-15 period which might help clarify the situation. It is also possible that William's grandparents were William Brockley and Mary Bebbington who married in Coppenhall Parish on 11th May 1771. I would be extremely grateful if you could help me in any way. Regards Ter
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 25 August 05 18:50 BST (UK)
Hi Ter,

William Brockley married Jane Wilkison 29/12/1808 at Coppenhall
William Brockley married Christian Tomlinson 17/10/1810 at Coppenhall

Don't know if this helps or makes it more confusing!

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Ter1 on Thursday 25 August 05 22:43 BST (UK)
Hi Jean, Many thanks for the information. I have recorded this information previously and in fact the William(s) you have listed are one and the same person.I believe he remarried. Both marriages appear to have taken place in Warmingham but unfortunately I have been unable to find a son William for any of them. I will need to double check to make absolutely sure as the second date would fit!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: JDGenChat on Thursday 25 August 05 22:47 BST (UK)
Hi Ter,

Maybe you could ask for an 1841 lookup for William and/or Christian - it might give you some clues even though your William was already married.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: freewaymaster on Monday 29 August 05 14:17 BST (UK)
chris, you are a miracle from God! My name is Martin Wilkins. i need the indexes for the birth year 1741, in Manchester the name of Thomas Burton, and the the name of Hannah Hey(s) but i have no year, if you have that. And also in Stockport St. Mary's parish, the birth year 1772 for the name George Burton, and 1776 for the name Hannah Ann Coffey, and the marriage years for 1766 in the Manchester Cathedral if you have it for the couple Thomas and Hannah burton for  Nov. 30, and supposedly May 27, 1798 in St. Mary's parish in Cheadle, Stockport. if you could send me copies of those indexes, i would love you forever!!   
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 29 August 05 14:31 BST (UK)
Hi
     Sorry there is nothing in the indexes apart from the marriage dates, I dont have any Lancashire (Manchester) indexes, sorry. If you want further details of the Cheshire marriages you will need to apply to the records office by email at the address on this link http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.htm

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: freewaymaster on Monday 29 August 05 14:35 BST (UK)
the marriage are great! if you can email a copy of the index that would be wonderful, St. Mary's parish, Cheadle, Stockport, Cheshmire, supposedly may 27, 1798, George burton, hannah Ann Coffey.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 29 August 05 14:42 BST (UK)
Hi Martin

             Sorry but I don't know what its that you want me to email, all it say's in the index is the two names and the date, which you already have. ?
             These names and dates have been transcribed from the original parish records so are not direct copies.

regards

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: freewaymaster on Tuesday 30 August 05 07:48 BST (UK)
peter, i hoping that whatever index you had, what paper it is you are looking at that you have given me the names off, i don't know where this index is that you have found, maybe you can tell me where that is so i can see it. thank again.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 30 August 05 10:00 BST (UK)
Hi
     The marriage of Hannah Coffey and George Burton is indexed in both the Bertram Merrell index of Cheshire marriages and the North East Cheshire Marriage index, both these indexes are produced by the Cheshire Family History Society.

     You can find a link to the CFHS below.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: freewaymaster on Tuesday 30 August 05 10:35 BST (UK)
hi peter, thanks again for your replies, i can't figure out how to find or access those indexes from the cheshire family history site, could you help me how to navigate the site and go where you went, please? thank you.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 30 August 05 11:05 BST (UK)
Hi

    Sorry but the indexes are not on line, they have to be bought from the CFHS.

    Details are in this link http://www.fhsc.org.uk/fhsc/cdrom.htm

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rolnora on Thursday 08 September 05 12:19 BST (UK)
Hi Jean Sandra,
Not sure if this is coincidence or links in with your Daniel family in any way but going through Cheadle parish records at Stockport library, I came across a marriage entry for a John Daniel who married a Mary Eccles at St Mary's Parish Church, Cheadle, on 29th May 1836.
Regards,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Thursday 08 September 05 13:06 BST (UK)
Hi Pat,

this is really interesting.
My Thomas Daniel married a Martha Eccles but I don't have a marriage place or date for them.

However in the 1851 census Thomas Daniel gave his place of birth as Cheadle.

At the date of John and Mary's marriage Thomas would have been about 30 and Martha about 24 so it is very possible that the four people were related in some way and possibly brother(s) and Sister(s). Do you know if there was any more information in the parish registers? I must go and have a look.

Many thanks for this as I only have record of them in the 1851 census in Poynton and can't find them elsewhere in census, birth, marriage or even burial registers. Only one of their children appears in a marriage register as far as I can gather and that's Elizabeth my 3 x great grandmother. Her siblings, Henry (born 1833/4), David (born 1847), and Lydia (born 1849/50) don't seem to be traceable at the moment either for a census after 1851, death or marriage.

This has given me some hope when I was fast losing it.
Thank you.
Regards
Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rolnora on Thursday 08 September 05 13:21 BST (UK)
Hi Jean Sandra,
No, there was nothing more than that I'll print out the details you've sent and keep an eye out for them all when I'm next in the library. I don't get there as often as I would like, work keeps getting in the way but if I find anything I'll let you know.
I got a bit muddled with the St Mary's I should have said St Mary's Stockport, not St Mary's Cheadle, Sorry about that
Regards, Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Thursday 08 September 05 13:40 BST (UK)
Hi again Pat,

many thanks I appreciate your help.

Regards
Jean sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Tuesday 13 September 05 21:48 BST (UK)
Hi,

would it be possible for someone to look up the baptism of a Martha Eccles born 1805-1815 in Poynton. She could have been baptised at St Peters Prestbury? I would love to know who her parents were.
If anyone could find her  marriage to Alexander Hood at St Marks Dukinfield in 1877 I would be very grateful.

Regards

Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: hheapet on Sunday 16 October 05 17:43 BST (UK)
hi,
I am struggling to find birth date of Joseph Wainwright circa 1819 in Middlewich. also his parents.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: woodworth on Tuesday 18 October 05 19:38 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Can you find anything for me on the following. Peter Bennett found information on the 1841 and 1851 census, I Would like to find their marriage details, which would possibly lead to their parents and take me back another generation. I have attached the details of the 1851 census which gives the most details about them.

William Wooworth Born around 1806 and Jane Woodworth  born around 1808

William Woodworth head 45 waterman captain born Runcorn
Jane                        wife 43 Liverpool
Louisa                     daug 20 unwed Liverpool
Fanny                      daug 16 Handbridge
Robert                       son 11 ~
William                               7 ~
George                              5 ~
James                                2 ~
Ann Woodworth g/daug 1 daugter of Louisa born Chester



Thanks
George
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: odessa on Tuesday 18 October 05 22:08 BST (UK)
George,
If you don't have any luck in Cheshire finding the marriage, do try Lancashire. As well as the wife giving her p.o.b. as Liverpool, many watermen from Cheshire married in the large Churches near the docks. e.g. St Peter's and St Nicholas.
odessa.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 19 October 05 12:31 BST (UK)
Hi George

              Sorry cannot find a marriage for him in any of the Cheshire indexes

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Lancashire Lou on Monday 24 October 05 19:48 BST (UK)
Hi there

I'm afraid I don't have a lot to go on but I'm looking for the marriage of William Turner to Ellen ?????.

William was born in Staffordshire but Ellen was born in Wilmslow/Bollin Fee and this is where they lived all their married life and where the children were baptised so I'm hoping this is where they would have married as well.

I imagine they would have married sometime between 1805 and 1815.

Thanks

Lou
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: rolnora on Monday 24 October 05 22:53 BST (UK)
Hi Lou,
 I've just found this on the IGI.
 William Turner married Ellen Reddish at Prestbury,Cheshire, on 7th May 1805.
Could it be the one you're looking for.
Regards,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Thalliwell on Saturday 29 October 05 01:38 BST (UK)
Hi,

I was wondering if you could provide all information for a marriage of William Charles Halliwell and a Sarah Ann Bromfield in Nantwich, Civil Marriage OCT-DEC 1886.
 Can you tell me ages, parents etc.

Thank You Very Much !
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: willow2670 on Wednesday 09 November 05 12:50 GMT (UK)
Hello
Could you please see if there was a marriage for
James HANDFORD c 1812 ~ Sarah?
Not sure of Sarah's maiden name but she did have a Son Thomas ASHMORE
c 1832, Odd Rode, Cheshire.

Many thanks for your time.

Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 09 November 05 14:21 GMT (UK)
Hi

    Sorry there isn't any marriage indexed for them in Cheshire.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: daviesa on Wednesday 09 November 05 14:30 GMT (UK)
hi Chris

Could you please check whether you have records for
Malpas Cheshire.
If so im lookin for a marriage between
John Davies and Margaret Hopley around 1863.

John born Flintshire, Margaret born Malpas.

Thanks Alison.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: willow2670 on Wednesday 09 November 05 16:31 GMT (UK)
Hi

    Sorry there isn't any marriage indexed for them in Cheshire.

peterbennett

Thanks for looking
Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 10 November 05 10:47 GMT (UK)
hi Chris

Could you please check whether you have records for
Malpas Cheshire.
If so im lookin for a marriage between
John Davies and Margaret Hopley around 1863.

John born Flintshire, Margaret born Malpas.

Thanks Alison.

Hi

    Sorry, but the indexes I have are only for marriages prior to 1837.

Your marriage for John and Margaret is indexed in the
 
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ at Chester 1864

good luck

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: hheapet on Thursday 10 November 05 16:30 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am looking for anything on Joseph Wainwright (B circa 1819 Middlewich) and his wife Sophia Taylor (B circa 1820 Astbury)

Peter
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: daviesa on Thursday 10 November 05 18:48 GMT (UK)
hi Chris

Could you please check whether you have records for
Malpas Cheshire.
If so im lookin for a marriage between
John Davies and Margaret Hopley around 1863.

John born Flintshire, Margaret born Malpas.

Thanks Alison.

Hi

    Sorry, but the indexes I have are only for marriages prior to 1837.

Your marriage for John and Margaret is indexed in the
 
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ at Chester 1864

good luck

peterbennett


Thanks Alison.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: buttercup on Friday 11 November 05 05:08 GMT (UK)
Hi

Would it be possible to do a couple of marriages searches please?

first is a marriage of William PICKERING to Esther STOCKTON around 1768, not sure where exactly in Cheshire (sorry)

and the second marriage (again im not sure whether this would have taken place in Cheshire or Lancashire)

Marriage of John BRYAN to Ann ??? around 1824. Ann was born in Liverpool so i suppose its possible they could have married there instead?
John and Ann later lived in the village of NEss, Cheshire

Any help most appreciated
thanks Jen :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Friday 11 November 05 10:36 GMT (UK)
Hi,

would it be possible for someone to do a marriage search for me?

I'm not sure if Cheshire is the correct place but somewhere about 1846 an Edward Holt married a Helen, hopefully in the Stockport area. Helen and  daughters Sarah Ann and Alice were born in Stockport.  Helen abt 1826, Sarah Ann 1846 and Alice 1848.

The family appear in the 1851 census in Haughs Attic Heaton Norris so it could be Lancashire I need to look.

If anyone could find a marriage for Edward and Helen or baptism for Sarah Ann or Alice I would be very grateful.

Regards

Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 11 November 05 11:04 GMT (UK)
Hi

Would it be possible to do a couple of marriages searches please?

first is a marriage of William PICKERING to Esther STOCKTON around 1768, not sure where exactly in Cheshire (sorry)

and the second marriage (again im not sure whether this would have taken place in Cheshire or Lancashire)

Marriage of John BRYAN to Ann ??? around 1824. Ann was born in Liverpool so i suppose its possible they could have married there instead?
John and Ann later lived in the village of NEss, Cheshire

Any help most appreciated
thanks Jen :)

Hi Jen

         There is a record indexed for William Pickering and Esther Stockton at St Mary's Gt Budworth Cheshire 12/8/1766.

        Sorry can't find anything for a John Bryan, have you tried the IGI for Lancashire http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Friday 11 November 05 21:29 GMT (UK)
Hi again,

would it be possible for a search to be made for a possible marriage about 1800-1811 of a Robert Eccles and his wife Betty.

Betty was born in Stockport according to the 1851 census and all I know of Robert Eccles is that he was born in Cheshire according to the 1841 census.

The couple could have married Stockport but were living in Poynton about 1811, where their youngest son John was born.

The marriage could have been Poynton or Prestbury which was the parish church or alternatively in Stockport where Betty was born.

Similarly I don't have baptisms for their children John (1811), Solomon (1819), Martha (1812 -1816), Merodoch (1823), Hezekiah (1827), Sarah 1827. They were all born in Poynton.

Robert Eccles was a schoolmaster in 1841.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Regards

Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: buttercup on Sunday 13 November 05 22:51 GMT (UK)
Quote
Hi Jen

         There is a record indexed for William Pickering and Esther Stockton at St Mary's Gt Budworth Cheshire 12/8/1766.

        Sorry can't find anything for a John Bryan, have you tried the IGI for Lancashire http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/

good luck

peterbennett

Thanks for that, unfortunately i havent been able to find anything on John Bryan, there are a few possibles but i cant say whether theyre right.
Ive found a birth though for one of his sons, looks like il get that to check the mothers maiden name ;)

Thanks Jen
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: j-allen on Wednesday 16 November 05 18:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

I wonder if you can help me trace a marriage in Chester possibly before 1775 as their daughter Sarah was christened that year at St. Oswalds Church. The marriage is between Anderson Davies and unfortunately I cannot find out who he married. A Will of Sarah's husband in 1804 just calls her E. Davies! The IGI only gives the name of Sarah's father.

Would be extremely grateful, as it is a total brick wall at the moment.
Thanks

Janice



Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 17 November 05 12:12 GMT (UK)
Hi

     Sorry but cannot find a marriage for Anderson Davies in Cheshire. I wonder if his wife was born out of the county and the marriage ceremony was in her home parish.
     Did Sarah have any sisters ? their names may give a clue as to  E's indentity.

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: j-allen on Thursday 17 November 05 13:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

Thank you for looking for Anderson Davies marriage. Sarah had one brother Robert Anderson Davies ch. 7.6.1778 also at St. Oswalds Church, but I cannot find any further record of him after his birth.
I have gleaned quite a lot of information from the Cheshire Wills site and managed to get Anderson Davies father (also Anderson Davies) Will. His father Thomas seems to have been an Alderman in Chester.

Yesterday I sent for a Will of Elizabeth Davies (not much E can stand for!) Widow in Chester, for 1803. I don't have a clue if it's her but is worth £3.50 to find out. Her daughter Sarah gave birth to a child John possibly that year, before she married the father John Culcheth a Solicitor in 1804 in Liverpool.

As you say, Anderson Davies marriage could have been out of the County in which case it's anyone's guess as to where that might be!

Thanks again for your time.
Janice
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: karlowe1959 on Thursday 17 November 05 17:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
Im interested in John Swindells who was born in Poynton abt 1760 died 1850 @ Norbury stockport and lived in Brinnington all his life... wifes name unknown.......any marriages for John Swindells which would fit this timeline in the records?...........I also have a James Swindells b. 1789 whose wife was called Martha ? b. 1800 i think stockport any record of this marriage please.
Thank you ....regards Karlowe :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Carra on Thursday 17 November 05 22:59 GMT (UK)
Hi again,

.....
The couple could have married Stockport but were living in Poynton about 1811, where their youngest son John was born.

The marriage could have been Poynton or Prestbury which was the parish church or alternatively in Stockport where Betty was born....

.
hi jean sandra,
Just to let you know - there were no marriages at Poynton Church (St Georges) between 1747 and 1858 as the chapelry lost the right to conduct the service.  Most marriages seems to have been at Prestbury, but several members of my family have the place of marriage shown as 'Manchester Cathedral' on the online databases.  Just to confuse matters I have (so far) requested 1 certificate and the marriage was actually at ?? Parish Church.  I really must try and post the image on here to see if anybody can read it, but whatever it says it wasn't the Cathedral!
Hope this helps

Carra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Friday 18 November 05 10:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Cara,

thank you for this I wasn't aware that Poynton church lost the right to conduct marriage services. I wonder why?

I have a feeling Robert and Betty may have married at St mary's Cheadle. Would that sound right for a couple living in Worth or Poynton, do you think?

Regards

Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: JenClark on Friday 18 November 05 10:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

I hope you can help me, I am a bit stuck on my Cheshire research  ::)

I am looking for the marriage of John Warburton (born Tattenhall) and Ann Fletcher (born Bunbury/Bunlery - sorry really hard to read on census returns) they were having children in Tarvin/Bebington starting in 1826 so I am hoping they married either in Tattenhall, Tarvin/Bebington or Bunbury/Bunlery areas!

Sorry I can't give you more information but I am not too familiar with the Cheshire countryside  ;)

Thanks so much

Jenny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 18 November 05 15:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Jen

          There is a marriage for them indexed at St Albans Tattenhall dated 26/2/1824, it states Ann is from Waverton (parish of Tattenhall)

         You will have to apply to the Cheshire RO for a full transcript of the marriage, they do not usually charge if you give them all the above information. There is an email address in the link below.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 18 November 05 15:22 GMT (UK)
Hi again,

.....
The couple could have married Stockport but were living in Poynton about 1811, where their youngest son John was born.

The marriage could have been Poynton or Prestbury which was the parish church or alternatively in Stockport where Betty was born....

.
hi jean sandra,
Just to let you know - there were no marriages at Poynton Church (St Georges) between 1747 and 1858 as the chapelry lost the right to conduct the service.  Most marriages seems to have been at Prestbury, but several members of my family have the place of marriage shown as 'Manchester Cathedral' on the online databases.  Just to confuse matters I have (so far) requested 1 certificate and the marriage was actually at ?? Parish Church.  I really must try and post the image on here to see if anybody can read it, but whatever it says it wasn't the Cathedral!
Hope this helps

Carra

Hi Cara

            The Cathedral in Manchester was dedicated to Saints Mary, Dennis and George and wasn't known as the Cathedral until 1847.

Hi Jeansandra

        There is no mention of a Robert Eccles marrying a Betty or Elizabeth in Cheshire after 1615.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 18 November 05 15:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
Im interested in John Swindells who was born in Poynton abt 1760 died 1850 @ Norbury stockport and lived in Brinnington all his life... wifes name unknown.......any marriages for John Swindells which would fit this timeline in the records?...........I also have a James Swindells b. 1789 whose wife was called Martha ? b. 1800 i think stockport any record of this marriage please.
Thank you ....regards Karlowe :)

Hi

     Sorry, seem to have drawn a blank with the Swindells, there is nothing for a James and Martha 1815 +. For John this may be a possible 20/9/1798 at St Mary Cheadle to a Ann Brown.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: karlowe1959 on Friday 18 November 05 17:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,
Once again many thanks for your time and effort :)
Regards karlowe
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Carra on Friday 18 November 05 22:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Cara,

thank you for this I wasn't aware that Poynton church lost the right to conduct marriage services. I wonder why?

I have a feeling Robert and Betty may have married at St mary's Cheadle. Would that sound right for a couple living in Worth or Poynton, do you think?

Regards

Jean Sandra

jean sandra,
I asked the very helpful lady at Poynton library the same question and all she was able to tell me was that the church 'lost the right' to conduct marriages between those dates


Hi Cara

 The Cathedral in Manchester was dedicated to Saints Mary, Dennis and George and wasn't known as the Cathedral until 1847.

Hi Jeansandra

 There is no mention of a Robert Eccles marrying a Betty or Elizabeth in Cheshire after 1615.

peterbennett
Peter,
That is interesting - the first two (four?) family members I came across who were married at 'Manchester Catherdral' were married in 1838.  I have just looked at the actual certificate again and I can not make it out to read anything other than ***** parish church with no sign of any saints or Sts.  I am going to post a scan of it tonight to see if anybody on here can read it.   :)
Regards,
Carra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: JenClark on Saturday 19 November 05 01:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Jen

 There is a marriage for them indexed at St Albans Tattenhall dated 26/2/1824, it states Ann is from Waverton (parish of Tattenhall)

 You will have to apply to the Cheshire RO for a full transcript of the marriage, they do not usually charge if you give them all the above information. There is an email address in the link below.

regards

peterbennett

Thanks so much Peter, I will get in contact with the Cheshire RO  ;D

Jenny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: JenClark on Wednesday 23 November 05 10:51 GMT (UK)
Hi again Peter,

The info you gave me on my Warburton's has set me off on another lead and I wonder whether you could check your marriage registers for the following:

Peter Warburton and Mary Morgan married pre 1793 probably in Tattenhall

Peter Warburton and Maria Harding married pre 1817 probably in Tattenhall

Thanks so much, now I feel like I am finally getting somewhere  ;D

Jenny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 23 November 05 17:04 GMT (UK)
Hi

    I have only found a marriage for Peter and Mary Morgan at St Albans Tattenhall 11/12/1792 by licence.

    No other P.W. marriages at Tattenhall to anyone, or to a Maria Harding at any Cheshire church, there is a member submitted marriage for these two in the IGI it is dated for 6/June/1816 at St Johns Chester. It needs checking out at the records office,its possible it was missed of my index.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: j-allen on Wednesday 23 November 05 18:35 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am stumbling over a family of Whistons as there are no marriages on the IGI for me to tie up.

Robert and Ann Whiston (no marriage found possibly 1740 - 1743) had the following children:
William 1744
Ann 1746
Mary 1747
Samuel 1748
Robert 1750
Jane 1751 - All were baptised at St. John's, Chester.

Would be very grateful if any marriages could be found, especially hoping they are in County!

Many thanks for any help.

Janice

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: JenClark on Thursday 24 November 05 06:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks again Peter, I will check it out  ;)

Jenny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 24 November 05 10:08 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am stumbling over a family of Whistons as there are no marriages on the IGI for me to tie up.

Robert and Ann Whiston (no marriage found possibly 1740 - 1743) had the following children:
William 1744
Ann 1746
Mary 1747
Samuel 1748
Robert 1750
Jane 1751 - All were baptised at St. John's, Chester.

Would be very grateful if any marriages could be found, especially hoping they are in County!

Many thanks for any help.

Janice



Hi Janice

            Sorry but no luck I am afraid, there is nothing foe a Robert Whiston in Cheshire at all.

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Josephine on Friday 25 November 05 11:46 GMT (UK)
Chris in 1066Land,

If you are still doing the marriage look-ups, may I request the following:

Per FreeBMD:

Marriages Mar 1839

CHIRSTY    Robert         Bury    21   141   
TURNER    Elizabeth   Bury   21      141

[The first surname should be Christy.]

Thank you!
Josephine
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 25 November 05 11:52 GMT (UK)
Chris in 1066Land,

If you are still doing the marriage look-ups, may I request the following:

Per FreeBMD:

Marriages Mar 1839

CHIRSTY    Robert         Bury    21   141   
TURNER    Elizabeth   Bury   21      141

[The first surname should be Christy.]

Thank you!
Josephine

Hi Josephine

                   The marriage index's are for pre 1837 marriages in Cheshire only, sorry can't help.

good luck

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Josephine on Friday 25 November 05 12:08 GMT (UK)
Peter,

Oh, ack, sorry for my silly mistake!  The family was from Cheshire.  In my excitement, I forgot that Bury wasn't also in Cheshire!  ; )

Thanks anyway!
Josephine (in Canada)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: j-allen on Friday 25 November 05 18:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,
Whiston Family

Story of my life! Everyone lives in Cheshire but doesn't marry there.

Would be grateful if you could look for any of Robert and Ann Whiston's children marriages. particularly William Whiston who we think may have married twice. But at this point any Whiston marriages would be received with grateful thanks.

Sorry to put you to extra looking, by the amount of requests you've had I hope you aren't regretting your offer!!!!!

Janice
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 26 November 05 12:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Janice

               Sorry but I only have the indexes, no parents are named so making a positive connection is not possible.

               The only Whiston marriages I can find are for late 1700's and in the wrong area of Cheshire.

              It may be easier to trace backwards to your Whistons rather than starting way back and trying to advance "blind" so as to speak.
              What 19th century info do you have for descendants of your William born 1744 ? Do you know for definite he was born in Cheshire ?

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: j-allen on Saturday 26 November 05 12:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,
Thank you for your comments. William Whiston was born 1744 and died in 1819, aged 75 in Coventry.
He married a Henrietta Rew in 1780 in Coventry but was 19 years her senior. They had no living children. In her Will of 1841 Henrietta bequeaths a gold watch to her late husband's grandson William Whiston Batt which prompted the question of a first marriage and also silver to her niece Sarah Davies.
We have established that Sarah Davies is the daughter of Anderson Davies of Chester due to Sarah's late husband John Culcheth's Will of 1811 where he mentions the late Anderson Davies and his wife E. Davies, (who I was hoping was a sister and a Whiston)
Although I  never assume, I am trying to tie up the Davies family and the Whiston family but you have already told me that Anderson Davies didn't marry in the County, so I am well and truly stuck.
This is the background to the story and obviously the family dies out with the death of William Whiston, so I have no option but to go backwards from that point.
Thanks again Peter for your help.
Janice
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Jeano on Sunday 22 January 06 13:16 GMT (UK)
Hello,Chris,I wonder please IF you could help me?
I have a John Hunt born in Macclesfield,about 1811.would you be able to find any HUNT's for me there please? 8)
I would be really grateful if you could.
TIA.Jeano
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 22 January 06 18:13 GMT (UK)
Hi

     Have you looked in the IGI online, there is a record of a John Hunt baptised at St Michaels Macclesfield 1811 father Joseph Mother Jane.

     I have a record of a marriage dated 1/ Feb /1801 at St Peters Prestbury for a Joseph Hunt hatband maker of Sutton and Jane Shrigley of Macclesfield. This is the only marriage of a John H. and Jane so looks very likely "right" for the above baptism.

Hope this is what you are looking for.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Jeano on Monday 23 January 06 16:29 GMT (UK)
Hello,Peter.I HAD looked at the IGI etc,I was hoping someone MIGHT be researching this family-and we could have helped each other by exchanging facts.I am sure I have the information you sent me -for which I thank you.On a late census-Jane gives"Norfolk"-John gives Macclesfield-that is all I have pre their East End time. Not a lot to go on.
Thanks again,jeano
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Shesmiff on Monday 30 January 06 12:59 GMT (UK)
Would really appreciate any information on the marriage of Wm Spencer born 1798 died 1865, lived in Macclesfield for most of his life and his wife is believed to be Hannah born 1795 died 1853.

also

Francis Nadin born 1809 in Longton he married Mary Ann Bay born Manchester christened in 1810 we have no marriage details or death details for these two.

many thanks

Sheila
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 30 January 06 15:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Sheila

             Are you sure it was Hannah that William Spencer married, do you have them in any census year at all ?

             I have found a William Spencer marrying a Martha Dean in 18/ July/1819 at St Peters Prestbury. I seem to remember deans being one of yours ?

            Also Francis Naden cotton dresser married Mary Ann Bay also at St Peters Prestbury 12/Feb/1832.

let know about William

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Shesmiff on Tuesday 31 January 06 13:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,

That bit of the tree comes from the days when I did a lot of work at the library looking through the microfilm records one by one.

I must have found a Wm Spencer in the right area with a wife called Hannah and assumed it was the right one.

My daughter actually queried this with me as she found the Wm Spencer married to Martha with a daughter called Frances on the 1851 census.  That daughter would have been a lot younger than my gt. gt. gran

I am wondering now if William married twice or if I had the wrong one altogether because Ann Spencer, gt. gt. grandmother married twice, firstly to David Hodkinson and secondly to James Jolley. The second marriage is witnessed by a woman who's first name was Frances.

thanks for your help.

Sheila

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: LibbyW on Sunday 26 February 06 19:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
Thank you for your kind offer.
I have a John Lee marries Alice Duckers around 1785, Aldford if that is a place. Also a James Lee who marries an Eliza ??? and I appreciate if you can't find them they have there 1st child in 1830 so a look at 1829 would be great. I'm sorry that is all the info I have, if you can't find them please don't worry. Lee as a surname is quite tough to research especially as most boys are christened 'James'!!!

Thanks
Libby
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: acweng on Saturday 04 March 06 18:32 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris

Could you please check for a marriage of Ann Milner and John Earl poss at Crowley or Whitley abt 1823-26 .

Many thanks

Alan Ward
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: kelly on Sunday 05 March 06 08:10 GMT (UK)
Could I please ask for a look up of the Phillimore's register for Cheshire?

I am looking for the marriage of William Francis CRANE to Elizabeth (?).  The marriage is likely to have taken place in Chester between 1805 and 1813.  (I did have a look at Holy Trinity's records for this time but they appear to be missing)


Many thanks
Dorothy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 05 March 06 12:32 GMT (UK)
Hi

    Dorothy, Alan and Libby

Sorry cannot find a marriage for your people anywhere in Cheshire at all.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: kelly on Sunday 05 March 06 13:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking, Peter

Dorothy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: LibbyW on Sunday 05 March 06 13:05 GMT (UK)
Thanks Peter

Libby
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: acweng on Sunday 05 March 06 13:41 GMT (UK)
Mnay thanks again for your time

Alan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: GagaGram on Wednesday 08 March 06 03:34 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Would someone kindly do a marriage lookup for the following -
John Nield/Neild, born about 1812 Chester - a tailor to Harriett Collier,born about 1814/16 Chester. They possibly married between 1830 - 1841.

Also,
Was Charles Boulton/Bolton,born 1803/04 Chester,a cabinet maker,previously married  prior to his 1841 Liverpool marriage to Margaret Higham?
According to the 1851 census,there is an Elizabeth Boulton, 18 yrs. old,born Liverpool living in his household. Is she a daughter from a prior marriage or a relative?

Any help would be appreciated.
Nancy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Wednesday 08 March 06 09:29 GMT (UK)
Hi,

would it be possible for someone to look up a possible marriage in Cheshire?

My ancestor Richard Challenor was a potseller, dealer, hawker who travelled widely mainly in Cheshire. Congleton, Furness Vale, Macclesfield, Hyde etc.

When he married in Stockport in 1852 he was a widower but I dont know who or where he married previously.

If anyone could look up a Richard Challenor from about 1839 I would be very grateful. I know its a long shot but have no census data for him in 1841. His travelling lifestyle has made him difficult to track down.

Regards

Jean Rule
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 08 March 06 12:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Nancy

            The index I have shows a marriage at St Marys Chester dated 15/June/1835 John Nield a tailor and Harriet Conyers, it looks as if the name was difficult to read and someone had a guess (Collyer)

Nothing for Charles Bolton

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 08 March 06 12:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

          Cannot find anything (definate) in Cheshire for him sorry.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Wednesday 08 March 06 12:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,

many thanks for trying,

Regards

Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Elleray Girl on Wednesday 08 March 06 12:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

There is a marriage on the CheshireBMD ( http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk)

site for 1852 at St Mary's Stockport for Richard Challenor to Elizabeth Daniels - could this be yours?

Good Luck
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: jean Sandra on Wednesday 08 March 06 12:39 GMT (UK)
Hi,

yes this is Richards second marriage. He stated he was a widower but I can't find his first one.

Many thanks

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: GagaGram on Thursday 09 March 06 03:00 GMT (UK)
Peter,
Many thanks for the lookup. You've been a great help.
Best wishes,
Nancy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: dizziebee on Saturday 11 March 06 10:40 GMT (UK)
Hi I'm looking for a marriage between William Summerfield and Mary (Don't know) . William was born 1815ish and Mary in 1814 ish . The earliest child i can find was born 1833.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 11 March 06 12:22 GMT (UK)
Hi

    Sorry but there is nothing showing up in Cheshire at all for them.

  You don't say where they were born or where there first child was born, it may help in locating a marriage.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: dizziebee on Saturday 11 March 06 12:54 GMT (UK)
Sorry, William was born in Runcorn and his wife I think was Warrington but David Summerfield , their first son was born in 1833 in Liverpool although I can't find concrete evidence of him, (Because they keep moving across the Cheshire and Lancashire boarders I thought it was worth a lookup to illiminate it)

Many thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: suemuffy on Monday 13 March 06 10:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
Thanks for your offer of marriage look-ups.  I have the death of an Elizabeth Powel wife of Thomas Powel in 1767 which I am trying to link to my ggggGrandfather Thomas who married Alice Simpson the following year (6/9/1768) at West Kirby, I think they lived in Greasby.  At West Kirby on 10/07/1746 there is a marriage of Thomas Powell but no brides name but you may have access to further info.

Thanks
Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 13 March 06 12:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue

         All the indexes I have found seem to say the brides name was not filled in, I think the original parish registers would also indicate the same.

       Do any of their children have middle names that may indicate a mothers maiden name ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: suemuffy on Monday 13 March 06 13:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,

I have no info on Thomas Jnr whatever, I can't find his birth in Cheshire and no definite siblings and I have found no middle name.
I have found a Thomas Powell born in Liverpool in 1733 which would be about right and his father was Samuel, EUREKA I thought, Thomas's first son was Samuel, then I found Thomas's wifes father was Samuel too, so no evidence really.
What is interesting is my cousin came across a piece of paper dated 1880 which reads "Thomas Powell my great-grandfather took this property from the common".  Just makes me wonder if he had come from somewhere else and made a home for himself in the Wirral. Any ideas Peter?

Regards
Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: hazelnut on Wednesday 22 March 06 14:23 GMT (UK)
I am searching for the marriage details of my great grandparents John and Ellen Price both born in Birkenhead. Ellen was born in 1840.

Any help would be welcome.

Hazelnut
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: homeguard on Saturday 25 March 06 15:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris, this may be a long shot but !   I am looking for the marriage of John Grocott to Martha ?? not sure of the date, some time after 1850, could be in the Doddington, Walgherton areas, as I said a long shot ! many thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 26 March 06 12:36 BST (UK)
Hi

    Sorry but the parish indexes I have only go to 1837 after that there was civil registration, if they married in Cheshire it should be indexed in the http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/.

   I see from your other posts that Martha was from Flintshire, its likely she would have married in her own parish try http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/  Failing that I would recommend you check the GRO which is a full index of BMD in England and Wales https://www.1837online.com/Trace2web/index.html

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: homeguard on Sunday 26 March 06 17:43 BST (UK)
Thank you Peter, I wonder could you help with a Grocott [various spellings] family from Wybunbury, Hunsterson area pre 1837. I now think that Martha, John`s wife, was from Walgherton which I think is in the same area. Many thanks.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Shirley201 on Sunday 26 March 06 19:13 BST (UK)
Chris if your offer still stands, I am looking for a marriage of James Bilton to Hannah (?). Their eldest son was born 1795 and was baptized in Runcorn but I was unable to find their marriage in the All Saints, Runcorn registers. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Shirley USA
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 27 March 06 12:08 BST (UK)
Hi Shirley

              Sorry but I can't see any James Bilton marring at all anywhere in Cheshire, the indexes I have are fairly complete, so suspect they married out of the county. Or maybe they didn't ?

regards

peterbennett

     
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 27 March 06 12:12 BST (UK)
Thank you Peter, I wonder could you help with a Grocott [various spellings] family from Wybunbury, Hunsterson area pre 1837. I now think that Martha, John`s wife, was from Walgherton which I think is in the same area. Many thanks.

Hi

     Sorry to disappoint but cannot find a John marrying a Martha at all, was she known by any other name, there are a few Marys, do you have a rough idea of a year ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: homeguard on Monday 27 March 06 17:37 BST (UK)
Sorry Peter my mistake it`s John Grocott`s marriage to Emma thats pre 1837.  Their daughter Ann was born about 1836 so the marriage should pre date that.  John was born about  1814 at Hatherton, not sure where that is ! once again sorry for the mistake.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Shirley201 on Monday 27 March 06 19:07 BST (UK)
Thanks anyway Peter. It is still good to know as I will now broaden my search to other counties. And sorry about getting your name wrong!
Shirley USA
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: goff153 on Monday 27 March 06 23:17 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Do they go as far as 1822?

I am trying to verify an IGI entry - the marriage of George Peake and Mary Newton at Astbury, December 1822.

Regards

Godfrey
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Elizabeth Revel on Tuesday 28 March 06 10:33 BST (UK)

Dear Chris,

I was sent information about a possible marriage between William Gandy and Margaret (possibly Jones) 19 Feb 1832 in Lymm, Cheshire. Could you please confirm this?

William and a Margaret went on to have a family of six children, starting in 1834, so am hopeful that I have the right couple.

Beth
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 28 March 06 14:12 BST (UK)
Hi Beth

There is a record of the marriage at St Mary Lymm, Williams name was spelt Gandey,  their records can be viewed online at,

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 28 March 06 14:18 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Do they go as far as 1822?

I am trying to verify an IGI entry - the marriage of George Peake and Mary Newton at Astbury, December 1822.

Regards

Godfrey

Hi Godfrey

                The record is correct and indexed in the Bertram Merril index of  marriages, George's surname is spelt without the "e" and he is a bricklayer, Mary is descibed as from the parish of Sw. Swithamley I think it will be, or maybe Swettenham.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Elizabeth Revel on Tuesday 28 March 06 23:04 BST (UK)

Thank you, Peter, for taking time to look for me.

I shall check out the resource you quote.

Beth
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Lister on Wednesday 29 March 06 18:43 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
             many thanks for the offer. Could you look for the marriage of
John WILDE to Betty PENNY at Cheadle Cheshire on 18 November 1805?
I have them on the IGI, but it gives no further information.

Thanking you in advance,

                  Steve.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: debbie b on Sunday 02 April 06 08:00 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Would your info add anything more than what I found on the IGI ?

Manchester Cathedral marriage 5th July 1830
Thomas TYMMS (Born Mottram abt 1809)
married
Lucy CLAYTON (Born Derbyshire abt 1808).

Any Witnesses listed ?

Many thanks - Debbie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 02 April 06 11:15 BST (UK)
Hi Debbie

              Sorry my indexes only cover Cheshire, Manchester = Lancashire, not sure but I think you should be able to write to the Manchester Archives and obtain a copy of the original entry. Try our Lancs board.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 02 April 06 11:34 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
             many thanks for the offer. Could you look for the marriage of
John WILDE to Betty PENNY at Cheadle Cheshire on 18 November 1805?
I have them on the IGI, but it gives no further information.

Thanking you in advance,

                  Steve.

Hi Steve

             I cannot find this entry at all in the Cheadle or any other of the official parish registers indexes, it may be worth checking with the records office at Chester, you can do it by email at the address shown in the link at the bottom of my post, as you have the names place and date they will not usually charge.

good luck

peterbennett  
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: debbie b on Sunday 02 April 06 20:56 BST (UK)
Thanks for the reply anyway Peter, I'll contact them directly.

Debbie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: pierce-brosnan on Saturday 08 April 06 23:32 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

I wondered if you could have a look for a marriage for me please.  I am looking for the marriage of Thomas Bann (Band)  and his wife Sarah.  I am unable to locate their childs birth certificate so am trying a different angle, hence the reason for not knowng Sarah's maiden name.  The 1851 census is all I have of the couple in question - I hope you can help, best wishes Vanda.

1851 Census
8 Houses, Woodford Lane, Poynton, Cheshire
Thomas Bann - Head - mar - 31 - coal miner - Cheshire Poynton
Sarah Bann - Wife - Mar - 25 - Derbyshire, Sudbury
John Bann - Son - 6 - Cheshire, Worth
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: suee on Tuesday 18 April 06 21:24 BST (UK)
Hi
I was hoping you may be able to help, i am looking for a marriage of a joseph woodcock he was born in 1805 and married a Mary ? They had there first child in 1835 Joseph was born and lived in the Audlem Cheshire, were Mary came from i do not know i am assuming she was local.

Joseph also had a sister Ann Woodcock born 1807 and i have no idea who she married or when.
Both there parants were called James and Elizabeth woodcock.
Do your records cover the Audlem/Wrenbury area.
Thanks
Suee
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 19 April 06 12:15 BST (UK)
Hi
I was hoping you may be able to help, i am looking for a marriage of a joseph woodcock he was born in 1805 and married a Mary ? They had there first child in 1835 Joseph was born and lived in the Audlem Cheshire, were Mary came from i do not know i am assuming she was local.

Joseph also had a sister Ann Woodcock born 1807 and i have no idea who she married or when.
Both there parants were called James and Elizabeth woodcock.
Do your records cover the Audlem/Wrenbury area.
Thanks
Suee

Hi
    Sorry there is no sign of an appropriate marriage for Joseph or Ann on any index at Audlem or Wrenbury, can you tell me the name of the first child and do you have them in the early census ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 19 April 06 12:17 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

I wondered if you could have a look for a marriage for me please.  I am looking for the marriage of Thomas Bann (Band)  and his wife Sarah.  I am unable to locate their childs birth certificate so am trying a different angle, hence the reason for not knowng Sarah's maiden name.  The 1851 census is all I have of the couple in question - I hope you can help, best wishes Vanda.

1851 Census
8 Houses, Woodford Lane, Poynton, Cheshire
Thomas Bann - Head - mar - 31 - coal miner - Cheshire Poynton
Sarah Bann - Wife - Mar - 25 - Derbyshire, Sudbury
John Bann - Son - 6 - Cheshire, Worth

Hi Vanda

              Again no sign of a Cheshire marriage, as Sarah was born in Derbyshire its more than likely that is where they married, if they married at all.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: suee on Wednesday 19 April 06 17:26 BST (UK)
Hi thanks for looking
Joseph and Marys first child was a Mary b 1835, there was also a Margaret born 1835.
I have them on the 1841 census but there is no Margaret possible twin that died.
On the census were
Joseph
Mary
Mary age 6
Hannah age 4
Eliza age 2
William age 1 month
Thay lived Paddock Lane Audlem

I know nothing about Ann Josephs sister ,it was when i had a search done at chester for Josephs baptism that they picked up on Ann there were possible more i do not know yet the baptisms were at st James Audlem.

Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 20 April 06 12:05 BST (UK)
Hi Sue

      Still can't find a marriage for them, the 1851 census shows that Mary was born in Audlem so I cant understand why they were not married there, if indeed they did marry. A marriage could also have been at Wrenbury whose indexes I have up to 1837 but are a little patchy.

just in case you don't have it here is the 1851 census

HO107-2170-FOLIO 387  King Street Audlem

Joseph 45 ag lab Audlem
Mary 45
Hannah 14
Eliza 12
William 10
Sarah 8
Thomas 5
John 1
William Griffiths 21 visitor Audlem

the only thing I can suggest is that you obtain a copy of one of the childrens birth cert, this will show mums maiden name and maybe help to find the marriage.

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: shell on Monday 24 April 06 14:15 BST (UK)
Hi
I am looking for a marriage of John Heskey/Hesketh and Mary. in the cheshire area of Over. Their first child John was born c 1772 in Over.Hope you can help
Regards Shell
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Rumplestiltskin on Tuesday 25 April 06 00:02 BST (UK)
Hi not sure if you can help me I'm looking for the date of death of Charles (Anthony maybe??)  Burghardt b 1848 and or Mary Emily Burghardt b 1838 deaths likely post 1901 before 1920, as in 1901 census.
Death likey to have been near Stretford Trafford, Bowdon, Hale, Chorlton. Most likely buried at Chorton. St Clements.
Sorry about being so vague, but can't seem to find the needle in the haytstack.
   Thanks for any help.                                  Rumplestiltskin
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: Spurr on Tuesday 25 April 06 03:12 BST (UK)
Peter,

Could you please check for a marriage for a John McQueed (McQuade) to Esther, pre 1803.   I have a birth for a son Charles in 1803 in Warrington.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 25 April 06 11:47 BST (UK)
Hi Spurr

             The Warrington registers pre 1837 would most likely be published by Lancashire FHS, THAT IS IF THEY HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED, they don't appear in any of my Cheshire indexes.

try posting this request again on the Lancashire board
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,21.0.html

sorry can't help

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 25 April 06 11:59 BST (UK)
Hi not sure if you can help me I'm looking for the date of death of Charles (Anthony maybe??)  Burghardt b 1848 and or Mary Emily Burghardt b 1838 deaths likely post 1901 before 1920, as in 1901 census.
Death likey to have been near Stretford Trafford, Bowdon, Hale, Chorlton. Most likely buried at Chorton. St Clements.
Sorry about being so vague, but can't seem to find the needle in the haytstack.
   Thanks for any help.                                  Rumplestiltskin

Hi

      Cant help with this one sorry, you will have to search the General BMD indexes, this can be done for free at http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ you may have to sign up for a free trial.
      The indexes are also kept at Manchester and many local libraries.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Tuesday 25 April 06 23:44 BST (UK)
Hi,
could you please look up a marriage between Edward Ellis and Lydia, i dont know her surname. The marriage will probably have taken place some time between 1830 and 1838 in the Macclesfield/Prestbury area.
I would really be interested in learning Lydia's surname.
Many Thanks
Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: berny on Wednesday 26 April 06 00:28 BST (UK)
would you be able to help find George Partington abt 1811 married to Mary Brown abt 1813. I've been unsuccessful. They had their first child 1834.
thanks            Berny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Cholton on Wednesday 26 April 06 13:36 BST (UK)
Hello,

I am trying to find the marriage of William Dennett to Mary Helsby I think between 1820 and 1825. This would be in Ditton near Widnes and might well be in the parish of Prescot St. Mary. All a bit vague and this has been one of those "brick wall" situations.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Thanks,

Cholton
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 26 April 06 15:01 BST (UK)
Hi Colton

             Sorry but there is no marriage showing up in the Cheshire indexes, Widnes is Lancashire, you may have better luck finding their marriage on the Lancs board.

sorry

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 26 April 06 15:05 BST (UK)
would you be able to help find George Partington abt 1811 married to Mary Brown abt 1813. I've been unsuccessful. They had their first child 1834.
thanks            Berny

Hi

       Definatly no marriage in THE Cheshire indexes for this couple, there is one, a member submitted entry in the IGI, just says 8 Dec 1833 Manchester. You may be better asking on the Lancs board if their first child was born in Lancashire ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 26 April 06 15:11 BST (UK)
Hi,
could you please look up a marriage between Edward Ellis and Lydia, i dont know her surname. The marriage will probably have taken place some time between 1830 and 1838 in the Macclesfield/Prestbury area.
I would really be interested in learning Lydia's surname.
Many Thanks
Marie

Hi
    Edward Ellis an Organist married Lydia Beere spinster at Prestbury St Peter 24/Aug/1834.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Wednesday 26 April 06 15:36 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
thank you very much.
Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Wednesday 26 April 06 15:55 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
this is a long shot, but could you possibly look up a marriage between a Solomon Beamer and an Isabella, i would say it took place sometime around 1795 - 1805. I cant give you any more info than that, but i can tell you that Solomon Beamer is a really rare name, ive only ever come accross 2 others, and they are both in this family.
Many Thanks
Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 26 April 06 16:09 BST (UK)
Hi

    Sorry nothing in Cheshire for them.

    I have been reading your other requests and note from the 1851 census that Soloman and family came to Cheshire with children, and all born out of the county,with his wife Isabella being born in Uttoxitor Staffordshire I would suggest that that would be where to look first. Failing that look in the area that their first child was born.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Wednesday 26 April 06 16:14 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
thanks for checking, i knew it was a long shot, im not that lucky. I just thought that Solomon's origonal place of origin might have been cheshire, ah well back to the drawing board.
Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: berny on Wednesday 26 April 06 18:24 BST (UK)
This is a Stockport based family living in close proximity  to St Mary's Parish Church in the Market place. I know first 2 children were christened there.  Thanks very much for trying.           berny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 28 April 06 17:24 BST (UK)
Hi Berny

           I have had another look around the indexes and there is a marriage of a George Partington 5/November/1833 to a Mary Hatton by Licence at Stockport, looking through the various census years I can find only one family of Partingtons where the parents are George and Mary and the right ages. How certain are you that the mother was a Brown.

          I would suggest you try to have a look at this marriage in the records at Stockport, there will be more names on the Licence other than George and Mary, hopefully you may find a connection.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Nick Carver on Monday 01 May 06 19:03 BST (UK)
I am looking for details of the baptism (in Altrincham) of Harriet Cooper, born about 1818. I hope to discover her father's name - her mother was Sarah Cooper. Sarah was born in Manchester in 1784 and my next challenge is to find her marriage and hence maiden name.

Second challenge is to find the baptism of John Berry also born about 1818 in Altrincham and husband of Harriet. I suspect his father was William Berry, a butcher but that needs proving. Any light that can be shed will be msst welcome.

Thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: berny on Monday 01 May 06 20:03 BST (UK)
Hi Berny

           I have had another look around the indexes and there is a marriage of a George Partington 5/November/1833 to a Mary Hatton by Licence at Stockport, looking through the various census years I can find only one family of Partingtons where the parents are George and Mary and the right ages. How certain are you that the mother was a Brown.

          I would suggest you try to have a look at this marriage in the records at Stockport, there will be more names on the Licence other than George and Mary, hopefully you may find a connection.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Hi Peter, I have a birth certificate showing Brown as mum's name. I think I've found the marriage too. I was looking on the IGI site and found names and dates that fit BUT it states Manchester, Lancs which is a bit vague. However there are many later marriages at St Thomas' church in Heaton Norris which in 1833 would have been in Lancashire. I'm quite hopeful that this may take me back a further generation.
Many thanks for taking the trouble to do some searching. Very much appreciated.
                                    berny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: stanspot on Wednesday 03 May 06 19:08 BST (UK)
Hello

I am looking for the marriage of a George Astles b 1805 Shipbrook, Cheshire and a Catherine or Kate ?(no surname available) b 1801 in Whatcroft, Cheshire.
The first child I have for them is a George b 1831 in Davenham, Cheshire so they may have married there.

Thank you  ;)

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 04 May 06 12:45 BST (UK)
Hi

    There is a marriage at St Wilfred Davenham dated 7/June/1822 between George Astles and Catherine Dudlow. Thats all the imformation it gives,sorry.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pughy on Monday 08 May 06 18:44 BST (UK)
Hi
I am Looking for details of a Samuel Parsonage & Mary ?????Marriage The only info I have is as follows
They had a daughter Martha Parsonage Bapt 3rd March 1799 Tarvin Cheshire
                Pughy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pughy on Monday 08 May 06 18:50 BST (UK)
Hi
Looking for Marriage details of Ambrose Nield Bapt 1785 Christleton and Martha Parsonage Bapt 1799 Tarvin
First child born 1821 Christleton
                    Pughy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: TLambe on Monday 08 May 06 22:17 BST (UK)
Could you look up a marriage for a Nathaniel Procter/Proctor c1830
probably in the Macclesfield area?

Nathaniel's son Levi married 18th April 1853, aged 20, in the Parish Church, Prestbury.
Nathaniel was a staffman & Levi a weaver.

Thank you,
Tony Procter-Lambe
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 09 May 06 09:51 BST (UK)
Hi Tony

           Sorry there is no mention of a marriage in any of the published Cheshire marriage index.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 09 May 06 09:58 BST (UK)
Hi
Looking for Marriage details of Ambrose Nield Bapt 1785 Christleton and Martha Parsonage Bapt 1799 Tarvin
First child born 1821 Christleton
                    Pughy

Hi
      Sorry, cant find anything for these two either.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: stanspot on Tuesday 09 May 06 14:49 BST (UK)
Many thanks   ;)
Title: Nathaniel Procter
Post by: TLambe on Thursday 11 May 06 18:40 BST (UK)
Peter, Thank you so much for checking on my Nathaniel Procter.

If my Procter's lived in Buglwaton would their parish church be Prestbury?

Would this also be the case if they lived in Congleton?

Are there a lot of Procter/Proctor/Procktor marriages in the Buglawton/Congleton area in the 1825-1837 period?

Could you recommend the best directory for us to get that would help our research?

We really feel we are getting close to discovering our Nathaniel Procter...he may have used Levi or another forename & the other possibility is that he moved from Wolstanton area c1830.

Thank you , Tony

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 12 May 06 12:37 BST (UK)
Hi Tony

           The correct parish church for Congleton/Buglawton area is St Mary at Asbury, there are a couple of links here that will show which townships are covered by the various parish churches.

For Astbury
http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/chs/astbury.html

For Prestbury
http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/chs/prestbury.html

The Cheshire FHS have produced a cd that covers the marriages of all the North and East Cheshire districts up to cival registration (1837) it is for sale at this link,you will have to use there search facility to find it. The title is North and East Cheshire Marriage index 1754-1837
http://www.genfair.com/shop/system/index.html

hope this helps

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages- Bunbury, DODD -
Post by: chris_1 on Friday 12 May 06 17:23 BST (UK)
Hi there

I would greatly appreciate  a look from the Parish Records for the Marriage of Joseph Dodd ( Dood) of Bunbury Parish. He was a witness to the Marriage of Samuel Dodd ( Dod ) and Elizabeth Cookson on 19th Aug 1804 at St Boniface, Bunbury.

Joseph could have been the brother/father of Samuel.

Any help would be appreciated as I have come to a brickwall with this family.

Regards, Chris
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: corbie on Friday 12 May 06 19:16 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
 What a great thing you are doing for us all.
   I'm after what may be a longshot!
 
  The couple I'm looking for are,
     James Mullany (ey) c1806 and Johanna ? c1810.
    They were born in Ireland, no idea where but all their children were born in Macclesfield Cheshire. The eldest one in c1825.
  So I'm hoping they were married there.

      If you could take a look for me I will be forever in your debt.
 
                     THANKYOU  Sue.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mike1979 on Friday 12 May 06 21:41 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

I would be very grateful if you could find any information on the Shaw family of Bosley - all and any years.

I'd also be interested to find all Cheshire marriages of Samuel Shaw in the late eighteenth century.

Many thanks for your time on this.

Mike
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 13 May 06 12:24 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
 What a great thing you are doing for us all.
   I'm after what may be a longshot!
 
  The couple I'm looking for are,
     James Mullany (ey) c1806 and Johanna ? c1810.
    They were born in Ireland, no idea where but all their children were born in Macclesfield Cheshire. The eldest one in c1825.
  So I'm hoping they were married there.

      If you could take a look for me I will be forever in your debt.
 
                     THANKYOU  Sue.

Hi Sue

         There is a marriage indexed at Prestbury dated 8/2/1824 for a Jas Mullany a blacksmith of Macc and a Johanna Falvey spinster of Macc.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: corbie on Saturday 13 May 06 12:31 BST (UK)
WOW! Peter,
   You came through for me once again!
   This is them as James was a master blacksmith.
           Thankyou so much for your speedy reply.
                      Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 13 May 06 13:44 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

I would be very grateful if you could find any information on the Shaw family of Bosley - all and any years.

I'd also be interested to find all Cheshire marriages of Samuel Shaw in the late eighteenth century.

Many thanks for your time on this.

Mike

Hi Mike

           All Bosley marriages are indexed under the head church of Prestbury which covered a very large area around Macclesfield, so unless there is a statement in the register that the person was from Bosley it is not possible for me to sort them out. I will go through my indexes and see what can be found, but I am afraid that most of the Bosley folk will not be identified.

         As for sorting out all the Samuel Shaw's marrying in Cheshire you may be best to purchace the Bertram Merrill index of Cheshire marriages.
You can obtain this from http://www.fhsc.org.uk/fhsc/cdrom.htm

        I will get back to you in a day or two re the Bosley Shaws when I have gone through the indexes.

peterbennett
Title: Marriage, Prestbury Parish, SHAW c1830
Post by: TLambe on Sunday 14 May 06 02:52 BST (UK)
Peter, Thank you so much for the info on Prestbury/Astbury etc. & Cheshire CDs.

Could you please look for a marriage of a Charles Shaw, in about 1830, in the Macclesfield area, most probably in Prestbury Parish Church.

Thank you, Tony
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 14 May 06 12:11 BST (UK)
Hi Tony

   There is nothing in Prestbury around that time, do you have a Christian name for his wife ? Where did he live ?


All the Shaw’s below are described in the index as OF Bosley and all married in Prestbury.

James husbandman/ Mary Allen of Sutton 12/Feb/1793
James labourer/ Elizabeth Wheeldon sp of Bosley 31/Jan/1826
James servant/ Mary Davenport of Bosley 29/Dec/1829
James Shoemaker/ Mary Swaine sp of Macc 21/March/1818

John Farmer/ Ann Wheldon of Wincle 17/Sep/1797
John Farmer/ Sarah Turnock of Bosley 26/Dec/1822

Joseph husbandman of Bo/ (could be Bollington) Jane Brookes of Bo 20/Jan/1772 
Joseph farmer/ Lydia Bowyer of Bosley 6/Mar/1832

Mary Shaw sp/ John Redfern weaver of Sutton 24/Apr/1832
Matthew labourer/ Catherine Williamson sp of Bosley 3/Oct/1824
Matthew farmer/ Mary Trueman of Wildboarclough 19/Feb/1805

Samuel cordwainer/ Martha Burtinshaw 16/Dec/1765
Samuel husbandman/ Ann Pott of Rostherne 7/Dec/1789
Sarah Shaw/ Edward Turner carpenter of Bosley 6/Dec/1773
Sarah Shaw sp/ William Longden wheelwright of Sutton 5/Dec/1832
Soloman cotton stretcher/ Elizabeth Orme of Sutton 8/Sep/1794
Soloman farmer/ Elizabeth Chappell sp of Sutton 3/March/1828

William farmer/ Maria Allen widow of Bosley 31/May/1836


peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mike1979 on Sunday 14 May 06 18:47 BST (UK)
Peter

Many thanks for your time on the Shaws of Bosley and Samuel in particular.

I would like to pick your brain (and experience if I may).  I have an Ann Shaw born in Rainow on 28 Jun 1795 whose parents are Samuel and Ann Shaw - I spotted this in the Rainow parish register.  I am trying to trace the marriage of this Samuel and Ann.

Them marriage you have highlighted of;

Samuel husbandman/ Ann Pott of Rostherne 7/Dec/1789

could be the one.  Could I check that the Rostherne may not be Rainow.

The distance between the marriage and the birth of Ann is also causing me a problem.  I can't find any other births of Shaws with parents Samuel and Ann between 1789 and 1795 - I have looked in the Rainow records.

Any advice would be grately appreciated.

Many thanks again for your effort.

Mike Schilling
Title: Charles Shaw
Post by: TLambe on Monday 15 May 06 04:12 BST (UK)
Peter, Thanks for looking for Charles Shaw's marriage.
I don't know his wife's name, he lived in Macclesfield & was a weaver.

His daughter was Mary Ann Shaw born c1834 & married 1853 @ Prestbury Parish Church to Levi Proctor. One of her witnesses was a William Shaw.

I hope this helps,
Thanks
Tony Procter-Lambe
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 15 May 06 10:53 BST (UK)
Hi

    There is a marriage that looks to be the closest to your dates, at Prestbury 29/Jan/1822 Charles Shaw Silk weaver of Macc and Mary Frost sp of Macc.

   Do you have Mary Ann in the 1841 or 1851 census ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: TLambe on Monday 15 May 06 23:53 BST (UK)
Peter, That does seem to be the right Shaw's.
My cousin has now found them in the 1851 & 1861 census's & it all seems to fit & to make them our Shaws. Which is great as Shaw is a common name.

Thank you so much. We are still hunting for the elusive Nathaniel Procter but the Shaws are a link & so are the Plant family so we are progressing & you have been very helpful.

Regards, Tony Procter-Lambe
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Brian Wainwright on Sunday 21 May 06 12:53 BST (UK)
Hi

I am looking for a marriage between Thomas WARBURTON (b1813) and his wife Elizabeth. Their first child was born 1830 so I am guessing a marriage date in the late 1820s. Since Thomas came from Altrincham and Elizabeth from Mobberley I am guessing the likely location would be in the area of Altrincham.

Any info greatly appreciated.

Brian W
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 22 May 06 18:30 BST (UK)
Hi Brian W,

I've had a look on the Bertram Merrell index and the only marriage I could find pre or close to 1830 is Thomas Warburton, Farmer to Elizabeth Ellams 25 Jul 1829 at Chester St Peter which doesn't look very likely.  They'd be more likely to marry from the brides parish but this isn't always the case.

He would be very young if he married in 1829/1830, where have you found the information on the first child, and what was the name?  I thought I'd found him on the 1851 and 1841 census as a cordwainer, have I got the right one, because the eldest child there looks to be Margaret born c1834.

There is a marriage on the IGI (familysearch) site for a Thomas Warburton to Elizabeth Blackshaw on 27 Jan 1833 at Manchester Cathedral.  It caught my eye because I have Blackshaw's in my tree and one of the areas they are from is Mobberley.

Hope this helps and doesn't confuse things even more!

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Brian Wainwright on Monday 22 May 06 19:01 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Thank you! :) That is a big help, and actually better than I deserve, as in ruffling through my notes I somehow managed to conflate two of my sets of ancestors - the only excuse is that they were roughly contemporary and both lived in the Alty area.

I am reasonably sure that the Warburton/Blackshaw marriage is the one I was after, as the Elizabeth I was seeking came from Mobberley.

Apologies for giving false info - I shall try not to be so careless in future.

Brian W
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: daviesa on Monday 22 May 06 19:09 BST (UK)
Hello

Im trying to find a marriage around 1832 c  between

James Hopley  b. Malpas Cheshire    &
Ann  ?             b. Chorlton Manchester.

Any help much appreciated.

Alison  :)
Title: Macclesfield , BERKS
Post by: TLambe on Monday 22 May 06 20:55 BST (UK)
I'm looking for a marriage in the Macclesfield area c1810 between a  Sarah ______ & _______ Berks.

What I have is an 1881 census record in Macc. for widow Sarah Barks age 87 born Macc.

Thanks, Tony Procter-Lambe
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 22 May 06 22:22 BST (UK)
Hi Alison,

James Hopley m Ann DUCKIN 23 August 1831 at Malpas St Oswald.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 22 May 06 22:24 BST (UK)
Hi Brian,

Don't worry, easily done!! Do you already have the 1841 & 1851 census records?  I'm only guessing with the Blackshaw marriage as I know that there were Blackshaws from Mobberley.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Elizabeth Revel on Tuesday 23 May 06 02:01 BST (UK)
Hope you can help.

Information I have gleaned from a variety of sources

William Bancroft and Mary Moorcroft were married 30 Sep 1804, Farnworth, Nr. Prescot, Lancs. They had daughter Sarah, Warrington, 3 Jul 1810.
Sarah married William Turner, Whitesmith, b c 1811 (not in county as per 1841 census) William died prior to 1851 census. Oldest child, Thomas, born 1830.
Other possible children 1841, William, Richard, Mary Ann, Sarah, Caroline.

A marriage for Sarah and William might point me in the direction of William's roots.

Thank you.

Beth


Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 23 May 06 08:38 BST (UK)
Hi Beth,

Sarah Bancroft married William Turner 29 August 1830 at Grappenhall St Wilfrid.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Elizabeth Revel on Tuesday 23 May 06 09:24 BST (UK)

Thank you Jean.

Beth
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Rumplestiltskin on Tuesday 23 May 06 12:15 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
 Do you have any marriage info on a Francis Burghardt and Elizabeth (Froggot)?? possibly around 1828 to 1835 in Cheshire.
 Thanks Rumplestiltskin
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 23 May 06 15:48 BST (UK)
Hi

  Sorry this marriage or any for a Burghardt are not showing up the Cheshire indexes prior to 1837.

peterbennett

Title: Re: Macclesfield , BERKS
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 23 May 06 15:52 BST (UK)
I'm looking for a marriage in the Macclesfield area c1810 between a  Sarah ______ & _______ Berks.

What I have is an 1881 census record in Macc. for widow Sarah Barks age 87 born Macc.

Thanks, Tony Procter-Lambe

Sorry no likely marriage showing up in Cheshire, you should try finding her in an earlier census.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: judith 4 on Sunday 25 June 06 09:46 BST (UK)
Hi

I wonder if you could look up the marriage of John Quinn, Neston.  Possibly to a Jane. 

Thanks Judith
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Ruperta on Saturday 01 July 06 14:18 BST (UK)
Please would it be possible for you to look up the marriage of my ancestor John Ratcliffe, possibly born Appleton, his wife may be called Sarah? Their children appear to be born late 1820's - 1830's.  Any information would be gratefully received!

Ruperta
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 02 July 06 11:08 BST (UK)
Hi Ruperta and Judith

There is nothing showing up in any of the published Cheshire marriage indexes.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Ruperta on Sunday 02 July 06 20:26 BST (UK)
Thanks for your trouble anyway, Peter

Ruperta
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mobo on Thursday 06 July 06 08:39 BST (UK)
 :D :D :D

Hi Peter,

Would you please look up the marriages of:-

Nancy BUCKLEY (of Siddington) and   ??? ??? WHITEHURST who would probably have married around 1817 in Prestbury.

Also:-

Hannah BUCKLEY (of Siddington) and Joseph DAVENPORT who would probably have married around 1832 in Prestbury

Many thanks

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 06 July 06 11:38 BST (UK)
Hi Mobo  :)

                 Can only find one for a Ann Buckley and Egerton Whitehurst widower a blacksmith at St Mary Astbury dated 7/Sept/1820.

                 Nothing at all for Hannah and Joseph, sorry.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mobo on Thursday 06 July 06 12:19 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D

Thanks Peter - that's great  ;D ;D ;D

Nancy is another name for Ann so that's definitely them,  shame about Hannah & Joseph though, can't think where they can have married - mmmm   ??? ??? ???

Ah well - never mind

Thanks again !

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Elleray Girl on Monday 17 July 06 16:31 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am trying to locate the marriage of John Wren to Dinah ?? c 1827 to 1829 - I know that Dinah came from Knutsford and John from Keswick. Their first child was baptized in Oct 1829 at Cathedral, Manchester, where they remained.

I cannot locate a marriage in Manchester or Cumberland, and thought Cheshire might be the place.

Many thanks in anticipation of some help!

Karen  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 17 July 06 17:15 BST (UK)
Hi

     Sorry but there is nothing showing up in the Cheshire indexes.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: epfast on Wednesday 19 July 06 13:42 BST (UK)
Peter,

LONGSON FAMILY

My name is Jim & I am trying to trace my family I have I believe, managed to get back to around 1786 in Stockport.

I am trying to close the gap between James Longson born abt 1786 and James Longson who married Elizabeth Worthington on Mobberley (his 1st wife) in 1744 - They had a son James birth around 1753 again in Mobberley.

I know that the James 1786 married Hannah possibly in Ireland and I would like to know more - but the two James (senior & Junior) from Mobberly interest me if you can help with them or their ancestors.

Don't go to a lot of trouble but I would be grateful for any help or guidance

Kind regards.
Jim
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 19 July 06 16:05 BST (UK)
Hi Jim

        I think you would be advised to search the Mobberley parish registers they are available for births and marriages 1500's through to 1877. You will find them at the link below its for the IGI batch numbers.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyCheshire.htm#PageTitle.
    I would suggest you also search the Wilmslow batches as well, it was a favourite church for that area of Cheshire.
    It looks to me that he may have a wife Martha prior to Elizabeth if the records of their childrens births have been transcribed correctly. Unfortunatly there is no indication in any of the marriage indexes of a Martha and James Longson, not in Cheshire, maybe elsewhere.

sorry cant be of more help

peterbennett  

     
Title: Re: William AULT c 1820 macclesfield
Post by: Yonner on Thursday 20 July 06 20:41 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Do you have anything for a William AULT marrying a 'Mary' about 1820 ....probably in Macclesfield

Cheers
Alan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jennyhenry on Monday 24 July 06 16:09 BST (UK)
Any chance of finding the marriage of George Henry BROOKS born  1852 in Norwich and Ann RENSHAW,  In 1876 they had John born Castleton and Sidney born 1878. They were living in Castleton in 1881 and Stockport in 1891.

Also the marriage of Frank DAVENPORT b 1890 Stockport who's parents were Mark DAVENPORT and Catherine Racheal BROOKS.

Any record of Ann BROOKS b 1844 Norwich marrying
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jennyhenry on Monday 24 July 06 16:13 BST (UK)
Sorry just noticed your marriage index was pre 1837
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 24 July 06 17:04 BST (UK)
Hi Jenny,

If you look at the local register office indexes at www.cheshirebmd.org.uk there are a couple of Frank Davenport's marrying in the Stockport area.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mobo on Sunday 30 July 06 09:51 BST (UK)
 :D :D :D

Hi Peter

Could you possibly find the marriage of
William LEA and Mary ? circa 1835
which would have taken place around the Davenport/Somerford/Church Hulme area


Many thanks

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 30 July 06 12:50 BST (UK)
Hi

   Sorry, nothing showing up in the Cheshire indexes, was Mary born Cheshire or Staffordshire, its possible with being close to the border that they may have married in Staffs.

peterbennett

 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mobo on Sunday 30 July 06 13:00 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D

Thanks Peter,

I only know those areas, as William was from there, however, according to the 1841 Census, she was also born in Cheshire, so I assumed she married there.

Never mind, thanks anyway

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kathox on Tuesday 01 August 06 06:43 BST (UK)
Hi,
just wondering if you could look a marriage up for me, not sure of the year but it will be before 1815:
David Allen Lee and Esther.

I am also interested in any marriages of people with the middle/ last name combination of Allen Lee, it was a family tradition. The main area was around Staleybridge, Stayley etc.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: wardmob on Friday 11 August 06 01:48 BST (UK)
Hi - I am looking for a marriage between my Antwis ancestors in Cheshire. His name was Peter Antwis and her name was Betty. I suspect it was the frodsham area as all 8 children were born in frodsham - the eldest born in 1798 So I am guessing it would be before then Peter Antwis was born abt 1766 and Betty was born abt 1773

I would really apprceiate any help  you can give me

Gaylene
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 11 August 06 08:57 BST (UK)
Hi Gaylene,

I've checked my marriage index and can't see a marriage for Peter.  I also have the Frodsham PR up to 1812 and can confirm that they weren't married at Frodsham St Lawrence.  The children of Peter & Betty look to be the only Antwis(s) family baptised there.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 11 August 06 09:03 BST (UK)
Hi Kath,

Have checked my marriage index for David LEE and David ALLEN LEE but there is no marriage listed.  I've also checked for a marriage between a LEE and an ALLEN to see if that would explain the use of the middle name (although in one of my lines Allen with this spelling is commonly used as a first name).

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: wardmob on Friday 11 August 06 09:28 BST (UK)
Thanks Any - It rules one option out at the very least

gaylene
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: suemuffy on Friday 11 August 06 10:11 BST (UK)
Please could you check two POWELL marriages:

Thomas b.1770 Greasby (I have probability of Sarah Gill at St Bridgets, West Kirby in July 1790) but wondered if there was another possibility.
Also Joseph b.1776 Greasby (again I have Isabella Davies in 1814, Meols) any extra information to confirm these would be wonderful.

Thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 11 August 06 16:55 BST (UK)
Hi Sue,

Nothing close on my index, however the West Kirby parish register is online at: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ - I searched on Powel but couldn't see the marriage to Sarah Gill.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Sandra Parker on Saturday 12 August 06 02:58 BST (UK)
Thanks for your wonderful offer. Is there any sign of John Parker, (1775-1842), of Cheadle Cheshire? His son married into the Small family and I'm also looking for William Small (1811-1881) also Cheadle.
Also I would appreciate any details of Fidler or Lowe families. All Cheadle , Cheadle Hulme, Cheadle Mosely pre 1837.
Look forward to hearing some convenient time,
Cheers
Sandra  ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: suemuffy on Saturday 12 August 06 09:37 BST (UK)
Thanks Jean, I have already used the cprdb extensively, I oould not have done without it
Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Noreen Rose on Saturday 12 August 06 10:36 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
I am trying to find a marriage of a William WOOD from Brereton - died 1849, buried in the churchyard anyway.  He had sons Thomas, John and Joseph.  Joseph bn 1804 survived John died young but produced a daughter Jane, and 2 sons named Thomas's died young. I think he married a Mary, unfortunately my files have gone to my daughter who is producing a family tree for Peter WOOD - 60 next the only WOOD left as they have all had daughters.

The children were born in the 1790's.
There is nothing that fits on the IGI online

Noreen Rose
York uk



Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 12 August 06 13:13 BST (UK)
Sandra,

No obvious PARKER or SMALL marriages in the right timescale.

There are 30 FIDLER marriages at Cheadle St Mary on the index - can you be more specific about what you need?

There are a number of LOWE marriages but I suspect this one may be of interest if you don't already have it:
James LOWE m Molly FIDLER 29 Mar 1802 at Cheadle St Mary

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Sandra Parker on Saturday 12 August 06 23:08 BST (UK)
thanks for that. It was really John Parker and William Small I was hoping to find as my research stops with them at present.
I have not yet followed the Fidler/Lowe lot yet, so I do not have the parents of either of the following ladies.
Although these are possible dates for these marriages, I do not have any other details.
Betty (Elizabeth) Fidler (1813-1883)  married John Bailey (1803-1887) on 24th Sept 1827 at St Mary's Cheadle, ? her age is 14.  I have no knowledge of her parents and was looking for some clues.
Ann Lowe(1816-1888) married John Hooley (C1810-1890) on 15th October 1838 at St Mary's Cheadle. She may have been born in Staffordshire.

As always, your time and effort is really appreciated.
Sandra  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 13 August 06 09:42 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra,

Neither of the marriages you mention are on the index - but it is only an index so its very unlikely you would get further information from it.  The 1838 marriage is on the cheshirebmd index.

You could contact cheshire records office and ask for the details from the parish register - if Betty/Elizabeth was only 14 she must have been married by licence so the licence may give you more information - the register entry from 1827 wouldn't necessarily give you the parents names anyway.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pughy on Sunday 13 August 06 10:46 BST (UK)
HI Chris
I am looking for details on Samuel Parsonage & Mary ????? They had a Daughter daughter Martha Parsonage b abt 1799 Tarvin.

Also details on Ambrose Nield b 1785 Christleton & Martha Parsonage b 1799 Tarvin.    The eldest Child I have for them is 1821.

Any Info on a John Nield  I do not have a name for his wife. I have four children for him
                         Elizabeth b abt 1772
                              Jane   b abt 1776
                              John   b abt 1781
                         Ambrose  b abt 1785
They were all born in Christleton

Thanking You in Advance.
         Regards
                    Pughy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 14 August 06 14:28 BST (UK)
Hello Noreen,

Looking at your 1841 lookup request and Carrie's answer, do you think that William WOOD's wife was therefore Jane?  I'm afraid I still can't find anything obvious on the indexes and have also checked for a Joseph and Elizabeth but again nothing stands out.

Did William's wife die before him, or is there any mention in the will?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 14 August 06 14:38 BST (UK)
Hello Pughy,

Have checked for Joseph Nield marriages, none exactly right for the dates but:
married Martha Edge 19 Oct 1749 by banns, Tarvin St Andrew
married Margarett Dutton 8 Apr 1751 by banns, Tarvin St Andrew
married Elizabeth Price 18 Apr 1763 at Chester St Bridget
married Christian Perry 25 Apr 1794 at Tarvin St Andrew

Nothing on the index for Ambrose.

Nothing for a Samuel Parsonage within the right timescales.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Noreen Rose on Monday 14 August 06 18:23 BST (UK)
I know that it could be Jane as that has now come up in the 1841 census.  We have William's Will which mentions his son Joseph and grandaughter Jane daughter of his deceased son John that is all.   He is a widower!

I have requested a  Will of John WOOD Brereton died in 1824.   He is on the grave inscription at Brereton.  There is an Admon for Mary WOOD wife of William, so I have requested a copy of that too.

Thank you for helping me!  I am very grateful.

Noreen




Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: IanOZ on Thursday 17 August 06 06:04 BST (UK)
Chris

My GGgrandfather is reputed to have been married in Ince, most likely at St James P.C in 1778.  Their children were baptised there.

Thomas Clough to Anna ??

Both recordered as living at Church house Ince, I learn that there were four house together each called Church House.

Thanks

IanOZ
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 17 August 06 08:23 BST (UK)
Hi Ian,

There is no Thomas Clough on my index married in that timescale.  If you are pretty sure of the year and that the marriage was at Ince you could email Cheshire Records Office and ask if they could check the parish record film for you: recordoffice@cheshire.gov.uk

Do you know that Anna was from Ince, most marriages took place in the bride's parish.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: IanOZ on Thursday 17 August 06 12:07 BST (UK)
Jean

Now there's a thought!
Spent months worrying this one as my advice was Thomas (certainly Ince) married Anna ?? of Church House but maybe it was Thomas at Church House. That is confirmed by 1841 & 1851 census.

I guess I now wait for a miracle to get Anna's surname. I'll just sit and wait for it!

Thanks for your help

IanOZ
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 17 August 06 17:38 BST (UK)
Ian,

Is Anna on the 1851 or had she died before then?  If she was you should be able to get her place of birth but of course her family could have moved.  Were all the children born Ince, if not that might give you a clue if Anna wasn't from Ince.

Might still be worth an email to the records office.....

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: IanOZ on Friday 18 August 06 04:09 BST (UK)
Jean

Sorry the date of 1778 for the marriage was incorrect.  I have found the original email I got giving me Clough details and the date 1778 got mixed up in transit and had m. Anna next to it!

It appears that 1778 was Thomas's birth year.

Checking 1841 shown as Ann as born in county and 55
1851 shown as Anne has her born in Ince and 68 ! Maybe she wasn't too hot at arithmetic!

However children's ages from the two census confirm who she is.

The oldest child William was baptised Jan 16th 1820 so I guess now that Thomas and Anna/Hannah were married 1818/19

I would appreciate it if you could try the revised timeframe.

I have held off the records office as when I previously had a look I saw a search would cost 20 pounds minimum.


Thanks

IanOz

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: celia on Sunday 20 August 06 19:24 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,74819.45.html

St Hilary (Liscard)Marraiges 1744-1865  if Interested ;D

Celia
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 20 August 06 20:55 BST (UK)
Hi Ian,

Nothing in the revised timescale on my index either I'm afraid.  CRO charge by the hour for research, but it may be worth emailing them - if you have the correct year, and it sounds as if the marriage was at Ince they may do a look up for you.  The cost of a photocopy is small if you wanted one.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: IanOZ on Monday 21 August 06 02:34 BST (UK)
Jean

Thanks again. It seems the marriage date is critical, mind you did they marry!

I'll get it sorted yet.

cheers

IanOz
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hettie2000 on Monday 28 August 06 10:03 BST (UK)
Hi,

I'd appreciate help in looking for a marriage between Thomas Hodkinson and Sarah (unknown), which according to the IGI took place in 1817 in Christleton, Cheshire. Christleton is near Chester, I think.

The Cheshire office has checked the Parish Registers for Christleton but not found anything ??? . Any help would be very welcome!

Thanks,
Hettie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 28 August 06 10:51 BST (UK)
Hi Hettie

            There are entries for this marriage in any of the Cheshire indexes, looking at the IGI entry it looks very suspect to me, IE member submitted and no dates etc.

          Do you have any more info on Thomas and Sarah, such as census and death records.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hettie2000 on Monday 28 August 06 14:08 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, thanks for your reply  :)

I agree with you about the IGI entries... it's very frustrating because this whole family is proving difficult!

I don't have census entries yet for Thomas and Sarah, but according to the IGI they were the parents of Richard Hodkinson who was christened 1823 in Christleton, and also Sarah Hodkinson who was christened 1818, also in Christleton. The Cheshire Records office have found a record for Sarah which is on order.

Richard Hodkinson is on the 1841 census with his other siblings (not with Sarah or parents unfortunately). They are in Hyde, Cheshire (HO107/111/9 f21 p36) and myself and my cousin have traced them as best we can through the censuses. In 1851, Richard is still in Hyde and married to Mary, and gives his birthplace as Christleton.

Thanks for reading, and for trying....

 :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: RCB on Monday 28 August 06 20:15 BST (UK)
Hi Peter - You helped me out about a year ago, and I'm still plodding on, and you may see the posts on the general board.  We have a Peter Potts marrying Hannah ? probably around
1836, Sarah ? marrying ? Howard around 1790, and John Howard marrying Ann  ?  around 1825-30.

My Peter Potts family just doesn't seem to be there in 1841, but then my Harry Pownall born after the census of 1871 is in no census at all, might turn up in 1911.   Parents died when he was about 5, and he lived with his sister(s,) so I'm in the process of trying to find their marriages.  He joined the Indian Army using his real name age 21, so his marriage to Emily Howard from Macclesfield is not recorded, nor are they in the 1901 census, both were in India.  It will be a good story once I get there.   Thanks for anything you might find.  Cheers Fred
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 29 August 06 17:55 BST (UK)
Hi Fred

           I have the following marriage records

Peter Potts collier Hurdsfield / Hannah Lucas sp Hurdsfield 22-June 1836 St Peters Prestbury.

John Howard bricksetter / Ann Howard sp both of Macclesfield 17-August-1829

There is also this marriage record dated 1-April-1816 at St Peters Prestbury, John Howard bricksetter / Miriam Hordern sp both of Macclesfield, makes me think he may have been married twice.

Cannot seem to find a marriage for the Sarah Howard who was living with with John in 1841, it may be that she is a mother in law IE Ann's mother.

Hope this is some help

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JFOR on Saturday 02 September 06 21:59 BST (UK)
Hello from Canada.
Do you have a entry for the marriage of Thomas Fforster = Ellen Percivall in grappenhall 27/12/1752. It is not on the IGI so I cannot order an extraction from the LDS.
Thanks ahead. Jim
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: RCB on Sunday 03 September 06 19:00 BST (UK)
Peter your info  Peter Potts married Hannah Lucas, when you helped me last year you found my Abraham Pownall married Dorothy Lucas, i wonder if it's the same family?   If I didn't post an apology just now (might have lost it) then sorry I didn't reply to your last post.  cheers Fred
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Sunday 03 September 06 22:43 BST (UK)
I'm trying to find a marriage for a Maria Clowes/Clewes.
Maria [nee Bedford] married Thomas Clowes at the Cathedral Manchester in 1811.
Thomas died 1816 in Stockport, Cheshire, he was 29 years of age.
Did Maria remarry? if she did I think it would have been in the Stockport area from 1817 onwards.
Thanks in advance,
Pat.

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 04 September 06 08:08 BST (UK)
Hi Pat,

Maria CLEWES, widow, married Thomas BOWDEN widower, weaver 19 Feb 1821 at Stockport - one of my indexes has 19th, other has 18th Feb for this marriage.

Jean

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 04 September 06 08:11 BST (UK)
Hi Jim,

I can't see this marriage on any of my marriage indexes, but if I did it probably wouldn't have much more information than you already have.

If you are sure of the date you could order a photocopy from Cheshire Records Office at this link:
https://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/CheshireArchivesandLocalStudiesEShop/Copies.htm

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Monday 04 September 06 08:37 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,
Thankyou for the very speedy reply.
It's very much appreciated and saved me having to trawl through all of the Stockport parish records.
Cheers,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Thursday 07 September 06 23:23 BST (UK)

Can someone please have a look for the marriage of Edward Mollard and Mary?  I think it will be about 1810.
Many Thanks,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 08 September 06 10:13 BST (UK)
Hi Pat

       It was indexed as 7/Dec/1808 at St Mary Cheadle to a Mary Bailey.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Friday 08 September 06 16:49 BST (UK)
Hi, please would anyone be able to find a marriage of a Matthew and Ann Hibbert in the marriage indexes about 1720's/1730's in Sandbach/Astbury area.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: erika on Friday 08 September 06 18:20 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

I am looking for a John Griffith (s) marrying a Martha ? in the Thornton Le Moors area of Cheshire.
Their son Samuel was born c1812  and I have no knowledge of other children as yet.

Marriage date could range between 1800-1812 I suppose. Not too much information I'm afraid but would be grateful for any help.

Many thanks
Erika
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Friday 08 September 06 20:37 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
That's fantastic, thank you very much for your help.
Regards,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 09 September 06 12:45 BST (UK)
Hi, please would anyone be able to find a marriage of a Matthew and Ann Hibbert in the marriage indexes about 1720's/1730's in Sandbach/Astbury area.

Thanks

Anna


Hi Anna

           Sorry can't see anything in any of the Cheshire Indexes for this marriage.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 09 September 06 12:49 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

I am looking for a John Griffith (s) marrying a Martha ? in the Thornton Le Moors area of Cheshire.
Their son Samuel was born c1812  and I have no knowledge of other children as yet.

Marriage date could range between 1800-1812 I suppose. Not too much information I'm afraid but would be grateful for any help.

Many thanks
Erika

Hi Erika

            The only likely marriage is one dated 10/July/1809 at St Oswalds Chester to a Martha Roberts.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Saturday 09 September 06 12:53 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for taking the time and trouble to look for me anyway. Please would it be possible for you to check for a John and Elizabeth Royle for me in the Macclesfield area as well, 1814 or before.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: erika on Saturday 09 September 06 15:10 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Many thanks for finding that information, will hope to build on it.

Best wishes
Erika
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 09 September 06 15:26 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for taking the time and trouble to look for me anyway. Please would it be possible for you to check for a John and Elizabeth Royle for me in the Macclesfield area as well, 1814 or before.

Thanks

Anna


Hi

  Sorry nothing in the Macc area, where was Elizabeth born ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Saturday 09 September 06 15:42 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, am not really sure, I know that their daughter Ellen was baptised at Macclesfield St Michael's in 1814 but I have another ancestor on a completely different line who also just happened to be baptised there just about a year before and her parents were married at Prestbury so maybe there.

Thanks again, am very grateful for any help you are able to give me.

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: canniffe on Saturday 09 September 06 16:27 BST (UK)
Hello Chris,
i would be very grateful for a marriage lookup for James dale and Jane Tomkinson both from Smallwood near congleton sometime soon before the 1837 cut off.  I have a feeling they were Methodist, so I may be out of luck but here's hoping,
Thank you,
elaine
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 10 September 06 12:49 BST (UK)
Hi Elaine,

Sorry, no marriage for Dale/Tomkinson in that timescale.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: canniffe on Sunday 10 September 06 13:53 BST (UK)
Thank you for looking,
elaine
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Tuesday 12 September 06 14:29 BST (UK)
Hi, please would it be possible for anyone to give me the details of a John Simpson Ann Snelson marriage in Lower Peover in 1794. Also, please would it be possible for anyone to see if there is a marriage of a John and Mary Simpson in the same kind of area, 1773 or before.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 13 September 06 12:35 BST (UK)
Hi Anna

            There is a marriage indexed at St Oswalds Lower Peover dated 13/Dec/1794 for John Simpson and Ann Snelson.
             This marriage was by licence so you will be able to purchase a copy from the Cheshire Records Office, there is a link below.

            The request for John and Mary Simpson, does this mean a marriage to each other, or is it two seperate marriages ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Wednesday 13 September 06 13:32 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for that, yes the john and mary simpson marriage is a marriage to each other, I just don't know Mary's maiden name as yet.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 13 September 06 14:37 BST (UK)


     Sorry nothing in that area and timeframe.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Wednesday 13 September 06 14:38 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for looking for me anyway.

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: thebanshee on Wednesday 13 September 06 21:35 BST (UK)
Hya Chris,

Do you have any info on Goostrey marriages in or around Goostrey and especially Mobberley.  Any dates.....

Michelle Goostrey
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: goldup on Friday 15 September 06 23:14 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
Iam looking for the marriage of Soloman Dingle a Devon soldier to Ann Walker about 1740 in the Macclesfield/Gawsworth area. I hope you can help.
Thanks Yvonne
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Saturday 16 September 06 10:06 BST (UK)
This is a long shot, is there a marriage for Edward Darlington and Ann? Edward, according to the 1851 census, was born c1788 in Wales. I don't know where Ann was born but according to the 1841 census it wasn't in Cheshire and she died in 1850. Their daughter Mary was born 1812/13 in Stockport. I think Mary was the first born child so did they marry in Cheshire?
Many thanks,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 16 September 06 14:29 BST (UK)
Hi Michelle,

Ann GOOSTREY m Edwin HARDING, Tailor 13 Aug 1835 at Goostrey
Isaac GOOSTREY, blacksmith m Sarah FODEN 12 May 1800 at Goostrey
Isaac GOOSTREY m Hannah ADAMSON 5 Apr 1825 at Mobberley

However, another index gives:
Isaac GOOSTRY, blacksmith m Sarah MASSEY 12 May 1800 at Goostrey
Isaac GOOSTRY m Hannah LOYD 25 Apr 1825 at Mobberley

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 16 September 06 14:33 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
Iam looking for the marriage of Soloman Dingle a Devon soldier to Ann Walker about 1740 in the Macclesfield/Gawsworth area. I hope you can help.
Thanks Yvonne


Hi Yvonne,

Solomon DINGLE, soldier Devonshire m Ann WALKER 23 Jan 1740/1 by licence at Sutton (Macclesfield)

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 16 September 06 14:36 BST (UK)
This is a long shot, is there a marriage for Edward Darlington and Ann? Edward, according to the 1851 census, was born c1788 in Wales. I don't know where Ann was born but according to the 1841 census it wasn't in Cheshire and she died in 1850. Their daughter Mary was born 1812/13 in Stockport. I think Mary was the first born child so did they marry in Cheshire?
Many thanks,
Pat.

Hi Pat,

Edward DARLINGTON m Ann MANNEYFOLD 22 Apr 1811 at Cheadle

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Saturday 16 September 06 21:21 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,
Once again, many thanks for your help.
Regards,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: goldup on Sunday 17 September 06 11:26 BST (UK)
Hi Jean
Thanks for the information it has been a great help. Now I have  to find out why a Devonshire soldier was in Cheshire in 1740.
Thanks again
Yvonne
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Tuesday 19 September 06 15:26 BST (UK)
Hi, please can anybody look for an Isaac and Sarah Sympson/Simpson marriage for me in Peover area about 1750's/1760's or before.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 19 September 06 19:43 BST (UK)
Hi Anna,

I can't see anything on my indexes.  Do you mean that you are looking for a marriage for Isaac Sympson/Simpson to a Sarah ? or a Sarah Sympson/Simpson to Isaac ?  I've checked for Isaac and included Simson/Symson.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Tuesday 19 September 06 20:46 BST (UK)
Hi Jean, Thanks very much for looking for me, it is a Isaac Simpson to Sarah.

Thanks again

Anna

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: canniffe on Wednesday 20 September 06 07:50 BST (UK)
Hello Chris,
I would be very grateful for a lookup for a marriage between William Dale and Sarah. They were both born in Sandbach about 1780. The first child, I think, was born in Smallwood about 1808. I am guessing that the marriage was about 1800 ish in either place.
Many thanks,
Elaine Jones
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 20 September 06 11:34 BST (UK)
Hello Chris,
I would be very grateful for a lookup for a marriage between William Dale and Sarah. They were both born in Sandbach about 1780. The first child, I think, was born in Smallwood about 1808. I am guessing that the marriage was about 1800 ish in either place.
Many thanks,
Elaine Jones

Hi Elaine

            There is a marriage dated 31/December/1805 at Astbury between William Dale husbandman of the parish of Lawton and Sarah Lees of this parish.
             There are no others in the same time frame so think this is "right"

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: canniffe on Wednesday 20 September 06 12:57 BST (UK)
Thank you very much Chris. I am delighted with this.
Elaine
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: TLambe on Tuesday 26 September 06 20:15 BST (UK)
I am looking for a marriage of Hannah Proctor/Procter probably @ St. Peters, Congleton but certainly in the Macclesfield area. It would be after 18th August 1833 as her illegitimate son, Levi, was baptised on that date @ St. Peters.

Thanks,
Tony Procter-Lambe
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: IanOZ on Thursday 28 September 06 04:58 BST (UK)
Chris

I am looking for marriage of Thomas Clough to Anna/Hannah ? of Church House Ince.

The date I do not knowbut their first child William was baptised 16th January 1820.

Thomas Clough was born 1778 Parents John Clough & Elizabeth Large.

Can you help please, not knowing Anna's surname has been driving me mad!

Thanks

IanOZ
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 28 September 06 12:44 BST (UK)
Chris

I am looking for marriage of Thomas Clough to Anna/Hannah ? of Church House Ince.

The date I do not knowbut their first child William was baptised 16th January 1820.

Thomas Clough was born 1778 Parents John Clough & Elizabeth Large.

Can you help please, not knowing Anna's surname has been driving me mad!

Thanks

IanOZ

Hi Ian

         Think we may have been down this path before.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,136771.msg845835.html#msg845835

        Very frustrating I know but there is definitely nothing in the indexes

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: IanOZ on Thursday 28 September 06 22:59 BST (UK)
Peter

Thanks, it was a while ago and I mistakenly thought I was on a different route!

cheers

IanOZ
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Thursday 05 October 06 23:34 BST (UK)
Can someone please look for a marriage between a Wingfield and a Tittle, possibly in the Wybunbury area.

Thanks
Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Nick Carver on Friday 06 October 06 08:50 BST (UK)
Edward Berry married in 1764 (approx) in Gt Budworth according to IGI (but might be Over Peover). His wife is shown in the IGI record as Mrs Edward Berry - very helpful. Could someone check to see if her given name appears anywhere?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Gardengirl on Friday 06 October 06 21:27 BST (UK)
Hello,

if this offer of a lookup in the parish records is still valid please can Chris or another list member with access please look for the following marriage:

John ROGERS = Catherine EVANS
6th July 1812, Great Budworth, Cheshire.

Any other info from this entry would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards Val.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 08 October 06 14:20 BST (UK)
Hi Val

         The indexes of Cheshire marriages shows only the names and dates.

         It is unlikely that the original registers show any more than what you know, for a few pence you can obtain a copy of the original entry from the Cheshire RO, just write or email them the details to the address in this link.
http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.htm

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Gardengirl on Sunday 08 October 06 17:58 BST (UK)
Thanks Peter,

I will get an email off to them today. Even if it's just the names of the 2 witnesses or the fact that one was a widow/er can make a difference and may help.

I've had a bit of success with the old records when visiting Liverpool RO so I'm hoping the information given is the same from the Cheshire area.

Thanks for the link and taking the time to reply.
regards Val.

 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Sunday 08 October 06 18:10 BST (UK)
Hi Val I also have ancestors from round there (Peovers) and have heard recently that people had to get marriage licenses round there and unusually for back then it could mean that they could include parents full names, father's occupation etc. I am currently trying to look into this with mine with the help of a researcher.

Good Luck with yours

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Gardengirl on Sunday 08 October 06 18:27 BST (UK)
Hi Anna,

that sounds very promising. My John Rogers was a poor pansmith in the salt industry so I bet it was expensive for him to get the money for a licence, if that turns out to be the case. The extra information would be superb though as I'm stuck at John & Kitty, my 3x gt-grandparents.

Good luck with your research also.
Regards Val
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: suee on Monday 09 October 06 11:09 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
I was wondering if you could help me.
My GGG Grandfather was a William Dale born in Wrenbury.
Chester records office did a search for a baptism for me, he was baptised Wrenbury St Margarets July 21 1822, son of Mary Dale spinster of Dodds Green.
What i am looking for is any possible marriages of his mother Mary Dale after williams birth.
Hope you can help.
Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 09 October 06 12:16 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
I was wondering if you could help me.
My GGG Grandfather was a William Dale born in Wrenbury.
Chester records office did a search for a baptism for me, he was baptised Wrenbury St Margarets July 21 1822, son of Mary Dale spinster of Dodds Green.
What i am looking for is any possible marriages of his mother Mary Dale after williams birth.
Hope you can help.
Sue

Hi Sue

         Quite a few marriages for a Mary Dale, I have listed the ones indexed between 1822 and 1837.

1825 Thomas Cliff at Brereton
1825 Joseph Ashbrooke at Gt Budworth
1827 Peter Maddock at Bebington
1829 Peter Bayley at Middlewich
1830 Thomas Price at Gt Budworth
1831 John Norbury at Alderley
1831 Robert Harding at Whitegate
1833 James Bate at Gt Budworth
1833 William Ramsell at Middlewich

hope this is some help to you

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: suee on Monday 09 October 06 12:48 BST (UK)
Hi
Thanks for the quick responce, There had to be quite a few didn't there, but it now gives me something to go on.
Thanks again for your time.  :)
Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Lyn99 on Monday 09 October 06 14:20 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

If you are still taking requests, I'm looking for the marriage of Robert James and Harriet Longden, c. 1834, Macclesfield (probably Prestbury)

Many thanks
Lyn
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 09 October 06 16:46 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

If you are still taking requests, I'm looking for the marriage of Robert James and Harriet Longden, c. 1834, Macclesfield (probably Prestbury)

Many thanks
Lyn

Hi Lyn

         Welcome to Rootschat  :) :)

I have the marriage indexed at St Peters Prestbury Robert (plasterer) Harriet a spinster, dated 5/Oct/1834 both of Bollington.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Lyn99 on Tuesday 10 October 06 17:39 BST (UK)
Absolutely brilliant.  You have made another searcher very happy.

Lyn
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Kylie B on Friday 13 October 06 08:02 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Sincerely hope you can help - I am seeking marriages for the name CURZON (Curson, Courson, Courzon) in Cheshire.  Most likely in the St Chads Over area, or possibly Wharton.

In particular I am looking for a marriage of Owen (or Awen) Curzon to a Nancy or Ann pre 1820 - their first child was baptised in St Chads over in May 1820.

Many many thanks - here's hoping!!

Regards
Kylie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Friday 13 October 06 20:25 BST (UK)
I'd be most grateful if you could find these 2 marriages for me:

Joel Pownall and Elizabeth Johnson - first known child born Hazel Grove 1829.

James Johnson and Mary Ann - first known child born Hazel Grove c1835.

(IGI has James Johnson m. Mary Ann Bridge at Cheadle, 1831, which is a possibility - would like to know if there are any others!)

Many thanks!

Rambler
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 14 October 06 14:03 BST (UK)
I'd be most grateful if you could find these 2 marriages for me:

Joel Pownall and Elizabeth Johnson - first known child born Hazel Grove 1829.

James Johnson and Mary Ann - first known child born Hazel Grove c1835.

(IGI has James Johnson m. Mary Ann Bridge at Cheadle, 1831, which is a possibility - would like to know if there are any others!)

Many thanks!

Rambler

Hi MR

           Joel Pownall and Elizabeth Johnson at Cheadle dated 19/Jan/1828.

           The only Mary Ann marring a James Johnson is the one you already have, there are a few JJ to Mary's but none in the right time frame.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 14 October 06 14:26 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Sincerely hope you can help - I am seeking marriages for the name CURZON (Curson, Courson, Courzon) in Cheshire.  Most likely in the St Chads Over area, or possibly Wharton.

In particular I am looking for a marriage of Owen (or Awen) Curzon to a Nancy or Ann pre 1820 - their first child was baptised in St Chads over in May 1820.

Many many thanks - here's hoping!!

Regards
Kylie

Hi Kylie

           There are no marriages for Joel at all.

Here are the other Curzon that I have found.

Over St Chad

20/May/1766 Richard Curzon/Abigail Hickson
7/Dec/1824 Mary Curzon's / Thomas Smith

Davenham St Wilfreds for Wharton

5/Nov/1831 Samuel Curson/Hannah Bloor
27/Aug/1804 Thomas Curson/Mary Smith
20/Dec/1824 William Curson's / Mary Ann Palin
7/April/1788 Ann Curzon/John Dodd
28/Aug/1831 Ellen Curzon's/Samuel Forster
22/Jan/1828 Nancy Curzon's/John Perry

Great Budworth St Mary

2/July/1829 Elizabeth Curzon/George Minshall

Little Budworth St Peter

4/Feb/1828 William Courzen's/Mary Egerton

hope these help

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Saturday 14 October 06 17:05 BST (UK)
Thanks a lot Peter - much appreciated!

Rambler
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Wednesday 18 October 06 18:01 BST (UK)
Hi, would be very grateful if anyone could lookup a Hannah Gallimore who married someone by the surname of Broady in Astbury/Sandbach area somewhere between 1770's and the first decade of the 1800's on the marriage index please.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 20 October 06 15:08 BST (UK)
Hi, would be very grateful if anyone could lookup a Hannah Gallimore who married someone by the surname of Broady in Astbury/Sandbach area somewhere between 1770's and the first decade of the 1800's on the marriage index please.

Thanks

Anna


Hi

     Hannah married a Matthew Brody 29/Dec/1787 at Sandbach.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Friday 20 October 06 15:09 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for that.

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dorey on Friday 20 October 06 15:56 BST (UK)
I would be very grateful if anyone could find a marriage between

William Turner and Mary Trickel (Trickle) around 1780 there children were born in Hanmer which was in Cheshire around the middle of the 18th Century so I assume that there marriage would be in Cheshire if around 1780

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 21 October 06 11:53 BST (UK)
I would be very grateful if anyone could find a marriage between

William Turner and Mary Trickel (Trickle) around 1780 there children were born in Hanmer which was in Cheshire around the middle of the 18th Century so I assume that there marriage would be in Cheshire if around 1780



Hi

     There is a marriage indexed at Audlem St James dated 2/Jan/1780 William Turner and Mary Trickett

     The index definatly spells the name that way, there are quite a lot of Trickett marriages in the Audlem/Wybunbury area.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dorey on Sunday 22 October 06 09:15 BST (UK)
Thank you Peter, I will have to check the records at Chester.  Unfortunately I have to wait until the 18th November because working full time I can only go on a Saturday.

Would the entry that you have tell me if they had witnesses at the wedding or where the groom came from?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 22 October 06 11:53 BST (UK)
Hi

     Sorry but I only have indexes to the marriages, as you say the orginal registers at Chester will have the full entry.
     If you can't get to the RO then I would recommend you email them at the address in this link http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.tm
 (stating the marriage details you have) and they will look up the marriage and confirm the full entry back by email, there should be no charge for this, but if you require a photocopy of the original then a small fee will be charged.

    There is also the will search facility that I have found to be a big help with pieceing families together. It can done and wills purchaced online.
 http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/recordoffice/wills/Search.htm

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dorey on Sunday 22 October 06 13:28 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, thank you for that information, I will indeed chase up this lead. 

I have also just had a ride to Audlem and got the Vicars name from in front of the Church so I will try this line of enquiry as well.

Just hope it's them.

Thank you
Dot
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: katherinem on Monday 23 October 06 10:18 BST (UK)
Hi,
I would appreciate a lookup of a marriage for Samuel Cadman.  The only thing I know about him is that he is the father of Mary Cadman born c1829 in Stockport (from Mary's marriage cert).

On the IGI, there is a christening entry for a Mary, giving her mothers name as Sarah.  Also there is a marriage entry in Alderley on the 29th May 1828 for Samuel Cadman to Sarah Cooper.  I have also found a Sarah Cadman aged 21 on the burial index for Stockport date 1 Jan 1832, so if this is the right Samuel, he would most likely have remarried at some point.

Basically any marriage details for a Samuel Cadman would be really appreciated for around these dates.  Thanks in advance.

Kath

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 23 October 06 12:55 BST (UK)
Hi,
I would appreciate a lookup of a marriage for Samuel Cadman.  The only thing I know about him is that he is the father of Mary Cadman born c1829 in Stockport (from Mary's marriage cert).

On the IGI, there is a christening entry for a Mary, giving her mothers name as Sarah.  Also there is a marriage entry in Alderley on the 29th May 1828 for Samuel Cadman to Sarah Cooper.  I have also found a Sarah Cadman aged 21 on the burial index for Stockport date 1 Jan 1832, so if this is the right Samuel, he would most likely have remarried at some point.

Basically any marriage details for a Samuel Cadman would be really appreciated for around these dates.  Thanks in advance.

Kath



Hi

      Cheshire Marriage indexes show only 3 Samuel Cadman marriages

Sarah Pott 28/Dec/1800 Stockport
Samuel Cadman a farmer of Adlington to Hannah Brooke widow of Bollington 20/April/1829 Prestbury

hope this helps

peterbennett



Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: katherinem on Monday 23 October 06 13:52 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

Thank you very much for the information, it is really appreciated.

Kath
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jjabbott on Tuesday 24 October 06 18:16 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

I would much appreciate any information on the marriage of George Hadfield (Mottram) and Frances Heginbotham (Romiley) in the 1830s/early40s, and on their fathers Thomas Hadfield and Thomas Heginbotham.

Many thanks for any help.  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jayson on Tuesday 24 October 06 19:19 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Would it be possible for you to check your indexs for a marriage between James Bayley to Ann Hamnett.  I have their marriage bond which is dated 1747.

Thanks ~ Jayson
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 25 October 06 11:14 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Would it be possible for you to check your indexs for a marriage between James Bayley to Ann Hamnett.  I have their marriage bond which is dated 1747.

Thanks ~ Jayson

Hi Jayson

              There does not seem to be an entry in any of the Cheshire indexes, sorry.
               Where was the bond issued ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 25 October 06 11:28 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

I would much appreciate any information on the marriage of George Hadfield (Mottram) and Frances Heginbotham (Romiley) in the 1830s/early40s, and on their fathers Thomas Hadfield and Thomas Heginbotham.

Many thanks for any help.  :)

Hi

     The only one I can find for George and Frances is indexed in the http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/    at Cheadle St Mary 1840, to obtain more info you will proberbly have to obtain the certificate or veiw the registers at Stockport Library or Cheshire Record office.

    Do you have any more information on the two father's, when did they marry, what were their occupations, wifes christian names, where did they live.
   
Regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jjabbott on Thursday 26 October 06 11:23 BST (UK)
Hi,

I've now realised I had more information than I thought on George and Frances. They were married by banns on 4/5/1840, George was 21, Frances 22, both of Edgeley. Father Thomas Hadfield was a joiner, Thomas Heginbotham was a labourer. I'm afraid that's all I know about the fathers. Might be difficult from here. Many thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 26 October 06 12:21 BST (UK)
Hi,

I've now realised I had more information than I thought on George and Frances. They were married by banns on 4/5/1840, George was 21, Frances 22, both of Edgeley. Father Thomas Hadfield was a joiner, Thomas Heginbotham was a labourer. I'm afraid that's all I know about the fathers. Might be difficult from here. Many thanks anyway.

Hi

   Lots of Thomas Hadfield marriages around the right time and area, so had a search of the 1841 census and found this likely looking family in Mottram.

HO107-100-8-Folio 5 Page 4    Lane End Mottram-in-Langendale

Thomas Hadfield 45/50 joiner born in county
Mary Hadfield 45/50 not born in county
Margaret 15/20 in county
William 13
Maria 9
Martha 5

There is a marriage indexed at Mottram dated 11/Nov/1816 Thomas and Mary Barrowclough.

In the IGI http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/ there is a submitted birth dated 4/Oct/1818 Mottram for a George Hadfield father Thomas mother Mary.

In fact looking closly at the IGI it looks very much as if someone as already researched the Hadfields of Mottram, might be worth you having a good root through them.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 26 October 06 12:48 BST (UK)
Hi me again

Looking for details of Frances I found again in the IGI a baptism dated 4/Oct/1818 at Chadkirk Church Romily showing father as Thomas and mother as Kitty.

A marriage index search shows Thomas Heginbotham and Catherin Barber dated 11/Nov/1805 at Stockport.

1841 census

HO107-112-10-Folio 7 Page 9    Lane End Romily Stockport

Thomas Heginbotham farmer 55/60       all born in county
Catherine 55/60
Ann 20/25 cotton weaver
Martha 15/20 ~~~~~~
Elizabeth 15/20 ~~~~~
Thomas 11

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jjabbott on Thursday 26 October 06 18:01 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for all that Peter. It's very helpful indeed :D.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jayson on Thursday 26 October 06 19:06 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Very many thanks for looking.  The marriage bond for James Bayley and Ann Hamnett was issued in Cheshire.

Jayson
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Saturday 28 October 06 11:38 BST (UK)
thanks for kind offer...only have death of 5x grandfather ralf oakes b1760 not in cheshire..on cheshire records as ralph oakes died dec 8th 1800 buried in st oswalds ,backford,cheshire...have some info of son daniel born 1779 neston ,cheshire...father as ralf not ralph...not much info i know...regards and thanks...allan oakes..ps  i`m a bit green at all this even though i`ve been trying for 3 years...
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hwlambert on Sunday 29 October 06 02:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
I am looking for a George Marshall born around 1790.  He married a Mary ???? in Taxal around 1822.  The children I have found are James 1822, Jonathon 1824.  In the 1841 census for New Mills he is described as widower, 50, not born in Derby with children James, Jacob, Isaac, Jonathon, not born in Derby and William, Mary & Elizabeth born in Derby.
Can you help please.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dorey on Sunday 29 October 06 07:08 GMT (UK)
Can anyone tell me what the Bertram Merrell's marriage index and the Pallot Marriage Index is forgive my ignorance but haven't investigated many marriages around 1780's. 

Best wishes
Dorey
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 29 October 06 11:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
I am looking for a George Marshall born around 1790.  He married a Mary ???? in Taxal around 1822.  The children I have found are James 1822, Jonathon 1824.  In the 1841 census for New Mills he is described as widower, 50, not born in Derby with children James, Jacob, Isaac, Jonathon, not born in Derby and William, Mary & Elizabeth born in Derby.
Can you help please.

There is a marriage of Geo MARSHALL, Taxal, Collier to Mary HILL, sp. Kett 28 Jul 1823 at Prestbury

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 29 October 06 11:31 GMT (UK)
Can anyone tell me what the Bertram Merrell's marriage index and the Pallot Marriage Index is forgive my ignorance but haven't investigated many marriages around 1780's. 

Best wishes
Dorey

Hi Dorey,

Pallot's is an index covering approximately 1.5 million marriages mainly in the London and Middlesex area 1780 - 1837.  It contains limited coverage of other parishes around the country.

The Bertram Merrell index was compiled by Bertram Merrell and contains marriages from various parishes at various dates, but does not have complete coverage - the coverage is for Cheshire only.  The CD available from the Cheshire family history society also contains the Hartley Jones Marriage Index for the Wirral Peninsula, and the Mid-Cheshire Marriage Index.

There is also a North & East Cheshire Marriage Index compiled by volunteers and mainly covering the dates 1754 - 1837.  The coverage between these dates is complete for some parishes.  This is also available to purchase from the Cheshire Family History Society.

Other counties may also have indexes that cover some parishes, you will often find reference to them in the county resources boards here in rootschat.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 29 October 06 11:44 GMT (UK)
thanks for kind offer...only have death of 5x grandfather ralf oakes b1760 not in cheshire..on cheshire records as ralph oakes died dec 8th 1800 buried in st oswalds ,backford,cheshire...have some info of son daniel born 1779 neston ,cheshire...father as ralf not ralph...not much info i know...regards and thanks...allan oakes..ps  i`m a bit green at all this even though i`ve been trying for 3 years...

Hi Allan, have you seen the Cheshire Parish Register project site - http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/?  The Backford parish register is one of the transcriptions available, there are the following baptisms:

Elizabeth dau of Ralph & Mary Oakes 12 Mar 1776
Peter son of Ralph & Mary Oakes 17 Oct 1779
Elizabeth dau of William & Margaret Oakes 15 Oct 1780
Daniel son of Ralph & Mary Oakes 25 Jan 1782
etc - 32 baptisms in all between 1776 and 1830.

Also burial of Ralph Oakes of Backford, Farmer, 13 Feb 1800 - there are 15 OAKES burials at Backford between 1790 and 1854.

Hope this is of some help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dorey on Sunday 29 October 06 13:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Thank you for that information.  Would these also be available at the Chester Records Office?

Also, when I visit other counties I presume that the apart from the Parish Registers there are different indexes for marriage in different parishes and basically the Records offices of that county should have them, is this correct?

Best wishes
Dorey
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 29 October 06 13:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Dorey,

I'm not sure, you would have to check with CRO to make sure - they work closely with Cheshire FHS so I would imagine so.

Most record offices will have this type of index if there is one, but many parishes aren't indexed and then you have to search through the records.  It's worth checking the FHS sites or www.genfair.com to see what is available.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hwlambert on Sunday 29 October 06 21:32 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean, do you know what the "kett" means,
now just need to find the children.
Cheers
Heather
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 29 October 06 22:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Heather,

My first instinct would be the place, Kettleshulme, but I'm not sure.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hwlambert on Monday 30 October 06 06:55 GMT (UK)
Okay, thanks Jean.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pughy on Monday 30 October 06 15:56 GMT (UK)
HI Chris
Do you have any info on a Ambrose Nield Born 1785 Christleton & Martha Parsonage Born Tarvin Married abt 1820
Regards
Pughy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pughy on Monday 30 October 06 16:01 GMT (UK)
HI Chris
Do you have any info on Samuel Parsonage and Mary ???? I have a daughter for them born 1799 TARVIN Cheshire
Regards
             Pughy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: fairlane on Friday 03 November 06 17:29 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Just moved this from general board as Celia kindly pointed out I'd get a quicker response on the specialised board.
My ggg grandfather Thomas Edwards bap 1827 in Burwardsley St John (born Peckforton). Parents John and Mary Edwards. My problem is that marriage records for Burwardsley have not yet been deposited at the R.O. Could someone please check the marriage indexes for Cheshire to see if there is a marriage about this time and any details. Many thanks.

Fairlane
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 04 November 06 15:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Fairline

     Although Burwardsley St John was licenced for baptisms and burials it did not aquire a licence for marriages until 1841, being a chaplet of St Boniface at Bunbury all marriages within the parish would have been conducted there.

    The index does not show up any likely marriages around the right timeframe, do you know John and Mary's ages, or where Mary was born, what did John do for a living ?

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: fairlane on Saturday 04 November 06 16:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter
Thanks for your reply. I have no other info on John and Mary but as I have traced Thomas back on censuses as born /Peckforton Bunbury it was an inspired guess to try Burwardsley as I had already tried Bunbury, Marbury, Malpas, Tattenhall Parish registers to no avail. Therefore I feel sure this is our Thomas. Thomas was a labourer so I feel his father would have been of similar employment. I also found a brother John (bpt 1829 Burwardsley) who was was a M.S. in Peckforton in 1841 (age 12). Probable - mother Mary (b.c. 1801) as widow on poor relief in Peckforton on 1841 census HO107/96 Bunbury En.Dis.9 page 7 with daughters Mary and Elizabeth. One of the witnesses at Thomas's wedding was Mary Edwards but neither she nor Elizabeth were baptised at Burwardsley. I have checked Bunbury, Marbury and Tattenhall for marriage of John & Mary to no avail.
My next step is probably to widen the circle?

regards, Fairlane
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 05 November 06 11:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Fairline

              Looking at the Cheshire indexes they show 10 John Edwards marrying between 1815 and 1829 most at one or other of the Chester City churches, but non to a Mary.

            There was one to a Maria Tavo 23.11.1826 at Chester St John, Mary and Maria are sometimes used together. This J.E. was a cabinetmaker so maybe a little doubtful.

            I would suggest you maybe have a look at Whitchurch Shropshire records, a lot of Cheshire folk married there ( just over the border )

sorry cannot give you anything more definite

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: fairlane on Sunday 05 November 06 16:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter

Your help is much appreciated as it saved me trawling through more hours of PR's for Cheshire. I'll take your advice and look over the border - with the name of Edwards just over the border into Wales may be another possibility.

regards,
Fairlane
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Monday 06 November 06 19:05 GMT (UK)
I'm trying to find the marriage of John Roberts, occupation blacksmith. His wife's name was Margaret.  When their son Geoge was born n 1818 they were residing in the parish of Willaston near Neston.

Also, Samuel Williams to Martha. He was a farmer in Bromborough.

Thanks a lot.

Pat

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 07 November 06 11:00 GMT (UK)
I'm trying to find the marriage of John Roberts, occupation blacksmith. His wife's name was Margaret.  When their son Geoge was born n 1818 they were residing in the parish of Willaston near Neston.

Also, Samuel Williams to Martha. He was a farmer in Bromborough.

Thanks a lot.

Pat



Hi Pat

         All the Wirral BMD are avalable to search online at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Had a quick and nothing seems to jump out as being your wanted couples.
Would advise you to check the Liverpool churches as well, they were well used by Wirral folk.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Tuesday 07 November 06 12:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking Peter. I tried to use the web site you mention yesterday but the database page just kept posting the message "error on the page" so I gave up.
I followed your advice you gave me before about Liverpool for the marriage of George and Martha and found them in 1840 so will try again for the others.

Pat
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 07 November 06 16:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking Peter. I tried to use the web site you mention yesterday but the database page just kept posting the message "error on the page" so I gave up.
I followed your advice you gave me before about Liverpool for the marriage of George and Martha and found them in 1840 so will try again for the others.

Pat

Hi Pat

          Just had a look at your other posts and saw that Jason had found a baptism as early as 26/June/1813 for a John Roberts, father John blacksmith, mother Margaret, if this is the couple your trying to find a marriage for it looks as if this could be the one dated 10/Jan/1813 at Holy Trinity Liverpool to a Margaret Smith. Found on the IGI at http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/

hope this helps a bit

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Wednesday 08 November 06 08:33 GMT (UK)
Thanks a lot Peter. That must be them. I don't suppose that there were many John Roberts, blacksmith in that area at the same time.

Regards,

Pat
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cherylg on Wednesday 08 November 06 15:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris


Is there any chance you could check for a couple of marriages for me.

Both in the Astbury /Congleton area.

George Foden to Mary?  c1816

Charles Sherratt to Catherine? c1804

Thanks
Cheryl
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 08 November 06 19:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Cheryl,

Geo FODEN Lab. m Mary WALKER Sp. 1 Jun 1818 at Sandbach
A couple of others in the 1830's at Astbury but none for your dates.

Charles SHERRATT, parish of Astbury m Katharine KILLMISTER 7 Jul 1803 Leek STS by Licence

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cherylg on Wednesday 08 November 06 22:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean


You are a star!!!!!

My Gt Gt Gt Grandfather was George Kilminster Sherratt with the marriage youv'e just found that explains where the Kilminster comes from.His mother was Catherine Kilminster.

Not sure about George Foden and Mary I based the date I gave you on the assumed birthday of their first child which was 1819 .

Thankyou so much

Cheryl
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Corsharn on Thursday 09 November 06 03:23 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris, :)
If your not run off you're feet doing look-ups.  ::) Could I impose on you to do a look-up for me please? ;D

My 3rd great-grandparents Charles Bowen & Martha Dickens.

I can only assume that they were married in the 1840's early 1850's But it could have been earlier ??? I don't know if they had other children... I am solely going on the information from my 2nd great-grandmother's marriage certificate.....She was Adelaide Bowen, born around 1853 in St Helens.

The only other bits of info I have was that  Charles Bowen was a Master Builder..and Martha Dickens was from St Johns, New Brunswick, Canada....And might have been a Milliner.

Sorry that I can't offer you anymore information :-[

I would be very grateful if you can help find Charles & Martha.

Many Thanks!!
Corsharn ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 09 November 06 13:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Corsharn

                Sorry but there is nothing in the Cheshire indexes for them.

                 St Helens is in Lancashire so might be worthwhile you trying there with a request.

If the marriage was after 1837 you can search freely the Ancestry BMD at  http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx

Use the full BMD indexes. These cover the whole of England and Wales

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Thursday 09 November 06 13:33 GMT (UK)
Hi, please can anybody look up the marriage of a Charles Tomkinson and Lucy for me.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 09 November 06 14:34 GMT (UK)
Hi, please can anybody look up the marriage of a Charles Tomkinson and Lucy for me.

Thanks

Anna


Hi Anna

            Nothing showing up in the indexes, can you tell us where and they married ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Thursday 09 November 06 14:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for that, I think Astbury or thereabouts.

Thanks again

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Nick Carver on Thursday 09 November 06 16:17 GMT (UK)
I am searching for a marriage between Sarah (surname unknown) and Mr Cooper (forename unknown) that took place probably in Knutsford. Sarah was born in 1789, so it probably happened between 1810 and 1820. Sorry about the vagueness of the request, but I have Sarah's 1851 census record in which she is widowed.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 09 November 06 17:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Nick,

Best matches:

Adam COOPER, warehouseman, Hurds, m Sarah PRIEST, sp, Hen 3 May 1818 Prestbury
Bristowe COOPER, shopkpr, m Sarah HOWARD 11 Nov 1819 Stockport Licence
Jas COOPER, farmer Rainow m Sarah BAILEY, sp Wbc 13 Apr 1816 Prestbury
John COOPER, Farmer m Sarah KEAY 16 Mar 1817 Bowdon
John COOPER m Sarah PEACOCK 16 Mar 1820 Rostherne
John COOPER m Sarah HAMNETT 28 Feb 1822 Bowdon
Joseph COOPER bach m Sarah WARTON sp 9 Jul 1821 Great Budworth B C.o.P
Randle COOPER m Sarah COOK 31 Mar 1814 Wynbunbury
Samuel COOPER spinner m Sarah BARDSLEY 1 Nov 1818 Stockport
Stringer Berry COOPER m Sarah BARNES 21 Jul 1812 Gt Budworth
William COOPER joiner m Sarah HASTINGTON 13 Jan 1812 Stockport
William COOPER printer m Sarah KNOWLES 16 Nov 1818 Stockport
Wm COOPER farmer Macc Forest m Sarah NIXON sp minor Rainow 9 Nov 1814 Prestbury Licence
 
Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 09 November 06 17:37 GMT (UK)
And a few more.....

John COOPER m Sarah JACKSON 29 Apr 1806 Knutsford St John
Joseph COOPER weaver m Sarah WORTHINGTON 10 Sep 1816 Gawsworth St James
Richard COOPER m Sarah WILLIAMSON 11 Apr 1811 Malpas St Oswald
Thomas Whitney COOPER m Sarah SIMPSON 3 Jan 1815 Lower Peover St Oswald

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Nick Carver on Thursday 09 November 06 22:46 GMT (UK)
Jean

Thanks so much for these options. Will have to whittle them down, but there are quite a few of them that look highly promising.

Nick
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Nick Carver on Thursday 09 November 06 22:53 GMT (UK)
I should have said that knowing the names amd ages of one or two of the children, then hopefully an IGI search might throw up the right marriage. Thanks once again.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Corsharn on Thursday 09 November 06 22:54 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Peter, :)
I have searched in Lancashire, but couldn't find them...Very Disappointing :(

I'll just keep plodding along, Charles & Martha must be out there somewhere. ::)

  Thank you for your help. ;D

Cheers,
Corsharn
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 10 November 06 12:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for that, I think Astbury or thereabouts.

Thanks again

Anna


Hi Anna

             Nothing showing up at anywhere in Cheshire. You dont say when and where they were born ? do you have them on any census at all ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Friday 10 November 06 14:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, Charles and Lucy had a daughter Martha in 1752 in Astbury who I think is my direct ancestor, they may also have had kids before that (1740's).

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Saturday 11 November 06 15:45 GMT (UK)
Hi, please can anybody lookup the marriage of a William Hackney and Ann for me, they definitley had a kid born in 1829 in Astbury area I think.

Would be very grateful for any help anybody is able to give me.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 11 November 06 15:58 GMT (UK)
Hi

     The only one that looks as though it may fit is dated 15/May/1826 at Prestbury to a Ann Barber of Marton (nr Congleton/ William Hackney bat of Macclesfield.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Saturday 11 November 06 16:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for that, it may fit, please can you tell me what bat means, is it bachelor at please or born at?

Thanks again

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 12 November 06 15:27 GMT (UK)
Hi

    Yes its batchelor

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Sunday 12 November 06 16:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks for that.

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bleary2eyes on Thursday 16 November 06 10:06 GMT (UK)
Hi, I'm new to this forum and have just spotted you very kind offer of Cheshire Look-ups.  Can I be cheeky please and ask you to check something for me.

My maternal ancestors were from the HARDY's of Thurstaston and Heswall, Cheshire and I've managed to trace them back to Daniel HARDY b. 1770 Heswall married to Mary DAVIES b. 1770 Heswall in 1790 @ Heswall Parish Church St Peters.

I have Mary Davies' parents but can't go any further back with Daniel HARDY who was my g.g.g.g.grandfather.

Also, am trying to find the wedding date of

Hugh WILLIAMS b. 1722 Heswall and Mary (surname unknown) b. 1726 Heswall..  They were my 6x g.grandparents.

I have their names (obviously, as above) and their children's names, but no surname for Mary, no Wedding Details and no parents for either of them.

I would be grateful for any help.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 16 November 06 13:05 GMT (UK)
Hi

   Welcome to Rootschat  :)

Most of the Wirral parishes have been transcribed and can be found online at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ it isn't the easiest site to use but well worth persevering, if you have any trouble please get back to us and we will try to help.

I did find the following.

1/August/1768 baptism at West Kirby Daniel Hardy father William mother Mary, said to be living in the township of Little Meols

22/August/1767 Marriage at West Kirby William Hardy/Mary Jones witnesses, Joseph Jones and John Brown, again living at Little Meols.

The marriage of Hugh Williams and Mary Longley was dated 8/Sept/1747 at St Nicholas Liverpool.
Liverpool was a favourite venue for Wirral folk.
This record was found in the IGI at http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bq/

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bleary2eyes on Thursday 16 November 06 13:30 GMT (UK)
Hello PeterBennett,  how kind of you. I very much appreciate you looking that information up for me.

I have added those websites to my favs and will look at them later.

Kindest regards to you  ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: AnneMc on Thursday 16 November 06 16:20 GMT (UK)
Do you have the marriage records for the area of Marple Cheshire?  As I am looking for the surname Graham?

Cheers
Anne
Canada
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 16 November 06 16:39 GMT (UK)
Hi

    Anyone in particular, most of the Marple marriages are indexed under the Stockport parish of St Mary, and there are lots of Grahams, but the index does not seperate where the couples came from.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: AnneMc on Thursday 16 November 06 21:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter:
thanks for the reply...  I have just started working on my Graham line, but what I have found so far, they were all born in Yorkshire and then moved to marple, so I think that most of them married in Yks.   but one that may have married there is a William Graham born 1810 whose wife is named Eliza born 1816 in Marple. Have found them onthe 1851 census.

thank you for telling me where to look for marriages.  The next generation of children were born in Marple so now know where to look for marriages.

Cheers
Anne
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 17 November 06 13:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Anne

          Sorry no sign of a marriage in Cheshire

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: AnneMc on Friday 17 November 06 17:10 GMT (UK)
hello Peter:
Thank you very much for looking for me.. I really appreciate it...  Will start looking under Southport.

Cheers
Anne
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 17 November 06 17:14 GMT (UK)
Anne

                       Southport  ???

Do you think the marriage to Elizabeth was a second marriage for either of them ?  There is one at Manchester Cathedral
ELIZABETH BROOKES OR WALLWORK (Possibly a widow)
25 NOV 1845
   
peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bursy on Monday 20 November 06 21:06 GMT (UK)
Hi, Chris
Thanks for the lookup offer

I am looking for John Burslem born 1695 in Astbury, possible parents or marriage.

Sorry about the lack of info.

Kind Regards,
Dave
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 21 November 06 11:21 GMT (UK)
Hi, Chris
Thanks for the lookup offer

I am looking for John Burslem born 1695 in Astbury, possible parents or marriage.

Sorry about the lack of info.

Kind Regards,
Dave


Hi Dave

           Sorry nothing showing up in the marriage indexes, and I don't have acsess to the birth registers.

           How sure are you of the birth date ? is it accurate. If so you may be able to get a birth search done at the Cheshire RO ( a couple of years either side is not usually charged for) there is a email contact address below.

          The only Burslem marriage I can find at Astbury around that date is dated 02/May/1705 William Burslem and Jane Phythian.

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bursy on Tuesday 21 November 06 18:02 GMT (UK)
Hi, Peter
Many thanks for the lookup
The birthdate is the middle one of four I have for a Jane, I will try Cheshire.

I now know the surname of Jane, William's wife

Once again, many thanks,
Regards, Dave
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 28 November 06 12:55 GMT (UK)
This is a long shot but can you possibly find the marriage of Thomas Lawrinson (various spellings, sorry) born around 1796 Tarporley and Rebecca (surname unknown, sorry) born about 1791 possibly Tarporley.

Marriage year unknown, sorry .... unhelpful wild guess ... 1820 ish? They have a child in 1825 but there may be others before that date.

Sorry about the lack of information ... you can tell me to go away and come back when I have more facts if you want to - I will understand.
Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 28 November 06 17:42 GMT (UK)
This is a long shot but can you possibly find the marriage of Thomas Lawrinson (various spellings, sorry) born around 1796 Tarporley and Rebecca (surname unknown, sorry) born about 1791 possibly Tarporley.

Marriage year unknown, sorry .... unhelpful wild guess ... 1820 ish? They have a child in 1825 but there may be others before that date.

Hi Ruskie,

Sorry, no likely marriage showing in that time period on my indexes.
Don't go away, you had enough information for a try!  :)

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 29 November 06 00:14 GMT (UK)
Aw, thanks Jean. And thanks for looking. This family is sending me mad.

Added later:
I think I have located earlier children for this couple. Jean, do you mind me asking the dates you looked for this marriage? I think perhaps the marriage may have been earlier than 1820ish - maybe 1816 ish? Can I be a pest and ask if you could have another quick look? Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Wednesday 29 November 06 19:00 GMT (UK)
Hi, please would it be possible for anyone to lookup the marriage of a William Snelson and Elizabeth in Peover area for me I think 1730's to 1760's.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 30 November 06 15:08 GMT (UK)
Hi

    There are two marriages indexed in Cheshire for that time frame for a William Snelson and an Elizabeth.

Elizabeth Walley Davenham St Wilfred 11/Dec/1743

Elizabeth Baddeley Church Lawton 2/October/1758

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Friday 01 December 06 17:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for that, sorry it has taken me a while to get back to you, I broke my leg recently and it is still non weightbearing which is very frustrating as I can only really go up and down stairs once each way at the moment (on my backend, the computer is downstairs), anyway thanks again for your time and trouble.

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rubyrose on Friday 01 December 06 19:49 GMT (UK)
Hello

Would you please be kind enough to look for the marriage of George Baker to Mary in Over sometime around 1785. I have the birth index records for 5 of their children, the first one I have is 1803 and the last 1815. All the children were christened in St Chads.

I am also looking for Thomas Ellison who married Rachael, their children were also christened in St Chads around the same time. This one may be a long shot as, according to the early census records Thomas was born in Birmingham and Rachael in Dorchester.

George and Thomas are my husband's gggggrandfathers.

Many thanks.

Rubyrose
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 03 December 06 11:42 GMT (UK)
Hello

Would you please be kind enough to look for the marriage of George Baker to Mary in Over sometime around 1785. I have the birth index records for 5 of their children, the first one I have is 1803 and the last 1815. All the children were christened in St Chads.

I am also looking for Thomas Ellison who married Rachael, their children were also christened in St Chads around the same time. This one may be a long shot as, according to the early census records Thomas was born in Birmingham and Rachael in Dorchester.

George and Thomas are my husband's gggggrandfathers.

Many thanks.

Rubyrose

Hi Rubyrose

                The Cheshire marriage index shows these two marriages that would seem to be the ones your after.

22/Feb/1801 St Chads Over George Baker/Mary Waters, Mary being of the parish of Neston.

27/Dec/1806 St Chad Over Thomas Ellison/Rachael Anderson

There is a baptism of a Mary Waters registered in Neston dated 18/July/1780 father James, mother Ann. This may or may not be "your"
Mary but looks a likeley candidate.
You can veiw most of the Wirral/Neston area parish registers index  online at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 03 December 06 17:31 GMT (UK)
I think I have located earlier children for this couple. Jean, do you mind me asking the dates you looked for this marriage? I think perhaps the marriage may have been earlier than 1820ish - maybe 1816 ish? Can I be a pest and ask if you could have another quick look? Thank you so much.

Hi Ruskie,

Sorry, I had missed this, I checked for any marriages between a Thomas Lawrinson and Rebecca and there were none on the indexes.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Quiller on Sunday 03 December 06 19:12 GMT (UK)
Hello Peter

Looking for a marriage of John Cliff(e) b 1599 son of John Cliffe and Ann Roodes their marriage 1597. John Cliffe senior was married in Nantwich. Do not have any other details other than John and ?  first child Richard Cliffe was b 1631. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rubyrose on Sunday 03 December 06 21:08 GMT (UK)
Many thanks peterbennett, these do look like the right ones.

I'll follow the lead you gave me for Mary Waters and also have a look at the web site link.

Once again, many thanks for the help.

Regards

Ruby
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 05 December 06 11:02 GMT (UK)
Hello Peter

Looking for a marriage of John Cliff(e) b 1599 son of John Cliffe and Ann Roodes their marriage 1597. John Cliffe senior was married in Nantwich. Do not have any other details other than John and ?  first child Richard Cliffe was b 1631. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi

   Sorry but nothing is showing up for him anywhere in Cheshire, tried all kinds of spelling variations  :(  Evan tried Clive.

Sorry

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 05 December 06 12:16 GMT (UK)
thanks jd gen....i`ve scrutinised the chesh site recommende by peter bennett and have ralph oakes and mary oakes`s 3 children......elizabeth 1776-peter 1779 -daniel(my 4x g.grandfather)1782....have ralphs death and buried in backford,chesh......births from 1776 to 1801 in backford.....fathers names....ralph oakes(my 5x g.grandfather)...william oakes...joseph oakes...thomas oakes...samuel oakes....and a marriage for mary oakes in 1790......backford is a very small village abt 6 miles outside chester.....it suggests to me that ralph/william/joseph/thomas/samuel/mary oakes were bros/sister..or at least some of them were......so where is ralph and mary`s marriage and where did all those oakes`s appear from,as there`s no record in st oswalds church records before elizabeth oakes`s birth 1776...any advice???...i could obtain ralph oakes death certificate...would that have his parents names on ...i know it has his birth place.....regards....allan oakes :-\..added 1545pm....had contact on genes ru and roots welsh page of  a  ralph/william/joseph/samuel/mary/thomas....john/hannah/richard 1758-1764 all born middlewich to ralph oakes b abt 1732  and mary oakes b abt 1736 ...how can i check this is the same family that moved to backford???...regards...allan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Laverdiere on Wednesday 27 December 06 23:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter I am looking for an Abraham Robinson married betwen 1810 and 1820 perhaps in Wybunbury, Cheshire.  Thanks, Laverdiere
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 28 December 06 01:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Lavediere,

The only Abraham I can see is this - a long way from Wynbunbury though:

Abr ROBINSON m Hannah ELLIS 13 Jul 1807 Mottram in Longdendale

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Laverdiere on Thursday 28 December 06 04:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean.  I have to keep looking. Laverdiere
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mshrmh on Thursday 04 January 07 11:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,
Could you please try to find marriages for the following:-

Thomas Warren to Mary (prob. Mason)  - first child baptised at Prestbury 21 Aug 1825, when Thomas was described as a farmer & they were living at Butley. Census has Thomas as born Bollington & Mary at Wildboarclough.

James Warren to Peggy - first baptism found at Prestbury gives birth date of 21 Dec 1793 when they were at Bollington.

many thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 04 January 07 11:45 GMT (UK)
Hi

     Welcome to Rootschat  :) :)

Thomas Warren (lab) married Mary Mason (sp) 24/January/1825 at St Peter Prestbury

James Warren (husd. Bollington) married Peggy Brooke (Boll.) 4/April/1790 again at St Peter Prestbury.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mshrmh on Thursday 04 January 07 13:53 GMT (UK)
Many, many thanks Peter for that information.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: BiscuitTin on Sunday 07 January 07 17:27 GMT (UK)
Hi

Can you look up a marriage for me please

George Davenport to Elizabeth, 1825-27 in or near Prestbury, Macclesfield

George was about 20, Elizabeth 16 or so

Thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: The Engineer on Sunday 07 January 07 19:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter  ;D

can you do a couple of look-ups for me please?

1.  William HANCOCK (b.abt 1777 Chester) and Mary JOHNSON (b. 27/10/1781 Weaverham), 1802 or earlier at Weaverham.

2.  Benjamin JOHNSON (b.abt 1766 Weaverham) and Nancy (no other details) 1791 or earlier at Weaverham or Little Leigh.

These are all my 4th great-grandparents.  Anything you can uncover would be very much appreciated indeed.

BTW I think this is a very generous service you are giving of your own personal time to help others.  It's really appreciated.

Cheers,
Garry
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 08 January 07 08:42 GMT (UK)
Can you look up a marriage for me please

George Davenport to Elizabeth, 1825-27 in or near Prestbury, Macclesfield

George was about 20, Elizabeth 16 or so

George DAVENPORT, Farmer married Elizabeth SLACK, sp 29 Apr 1826 Prestbury, both of Bosley

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 08 January 07 08:49 GMT (UK)
1.  William HANCOCK (b.abt 1777 Chester) and Mary JOHNSON (b. 27/10/1781 Weaverham), 1802 or earlier at Weaverham.

2.  Benjamin JOHNSON (b.abt 1766 Weaverham) and Nancy (no other details) 1791 or earlier at Weaverham or Little Leigh.

Hi Garry,

Wm HANCOCK married Mary JOHNSON 7 Sep 1802 at Runcorn, both of Norton, Parish of Runcorn

Nothing for Benjamin although there is this later marriage that might be connected:
Benjamin JOHNSON m Betty GIBSON 18 Feb 1820 at Weaverham

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: The Engineer on Monday 08 January 07 15:42 GMT (UK)
Many thanks indeed Jean!!

I'll have to look into that Benjamin JOHNSON more closely.........
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pughy on Tuesday 09 January 07 18:12 GMT (UK)
HI Peter
Could you please look up a Marriage for a RICHARD WALKER  Born abt 1817 Waverton to
                                                                           SARAH  ????? Born abt 1812 Ashton

        First child as far as I know born abt 1837 in Ashton
          Kind Regards
                              Pughy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 10 January 07 13:23 GMT (UK)
Hi

   Sorry but cannot see anything for them in the Cheshire Indexes.

  Just looked in the 1841 census and there seems to be another child (Martha 4) as well as Thomas 2

HO107 90-39-F10-P14  Waverton

John Walker 65 farmer           all born in county
Martha ~ 65
Richard ~ 20 ag lab
Sarah   ~ 25
Martha ~ 4
Thomas~ 2
Phebe Hughes 10 female servant

This Martha in 1851 is a servant girl at a farm in Ashton Tarvin Grt Boughton.

Hopefully this is the same family as you are looking at, it is possible that they could have married in one of the Chester Churches, which have a lot of gaps in the marriage register.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jillruss on Wednesday 10 January 07 21:11 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I'd be grateful if you could look for the marriage of

THOMAS LLEWELLIN (Lewelling etc) and SARAH

probably somewhere near Cuddington, Malpas about 1738-48.

They has a child - Elizabeth - in 1748 baptised in Malpas. In the records, Sarah is described as from Cuddington.

As far as I can tell, the rest of their children were all baptised in nearby Whitchurch, Shropshire which was where Thomas was from.

Thanks,
Jill

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: randh on Thursday 11 January 07 10:55 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Any marriages for Bosley, Boasley, Bausley, Bawsley or equivalents with z instead of s particularly in the Tarvin area please.

Many thanks, randh
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 11 January 07 11:17 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I'd be grateful if you could look for the marriage of

THOMAS LLEWELLIN (Lewelling etc) and SARAH

probably somewhere near Cuddington, Malpas about 1738-48.

They has a child - Elizabeth - in 1748 baptised in Malpas. In the records, Sarah is described as from Cuddington.

As far as I can tell, the rest of their children were all baptised in nearby Whitchurch, Shropshire which was where Thomas was from.

Thanks,
Jill



Hi Jill

         Sorry but can't see anything in my indexes anywhere in Cheshire.
I have coverage of Malpas 1570-1837, it shows only 2 Llewellin marriages indexed and both are for a Thomas Llewellin/Llewellyn.

1696 by banns to Margaret Seavill

14/September/1804 by banns to Elizabeth Wilson

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 11 January 07 11:28 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Any marriages for Bosley, Boasley, Bausley, Bawsley or equivalents with z instead of s particularly in the Tarvin area please.

Many thanks, randh

Hi

  Only one marriage indexed at Tarvin, 28/Dec/1810 Thomas Boseley and Ellen Dunn by banns.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: randh on Thursday 11 January 07 12:46 GMT (UK)
Many thanks, randh
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jillruss on Thursday 11 January 07 13:11 GMT (UK)
Thanks for taking the time to look, Peter.

Jill
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: chris_1 on Thursday 11 January 07 14:57 GMT (UK)
Hi
Please could you look-up a marriage between Joseph Dodd (Dood) b about 1777, Peckforton ,and Ann ? also about same age b Nantwich.

A Joseph Dodd was a witness to the Marriage of Samuel Dodd and Elizabeth Cookson in Aug 1804 at St Boniface Church, Bunbury.

Joseph could have been a brother/father/cousin to Samuel. I thought that maybe the witnesses to the marriage might give me some more hope of finding more about Samuel. Joseph Cookson was also present.

Samuel spent the last 20 yrs of his life in Calveley, Bunbury until he died in 1862. I don't know where he was born.

He had a son Joseph b 1817 and lived with him up to his death.

I found Joseph and Ann Dodd in 1841 census aged about 60yrs. Living in Ridley near Bunbury and wondered if he could possibly be the witness at Samuel's marriage.

I have not made any progress on my research along this line for a long time.

Please help if you can

Kind regards

Chris

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 11 January 07 17:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris

           There is a marriage indexed at Bunbury and dated 2/July/1826 Joseph Dodd a widower to Anne Dutton.
Could this be your couple from the 1841 census ?

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: chris_1 on Friday 12 January 07 23:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter

I dont think this was the couple in the 1841 census. They were in their 60's in 1841 and Joseph and Ann Dutton would have been about 40 yrs old.

Chris

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mike1979 on Monday 15 January 07 19:36 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am trying to find marriages at Bollington for the Jackson family between 1840 and 1900.

Particularly John or Richard Jackson.

Many, many thanks
Mike

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 15 January 07 21:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Mike,

The indexes in use for these lookups are for pre 1837 marriages.  If you look at www.cheshirebmd.org.uk you will be able to look at marriages for the relevant parishes for Bollington yourself (although there are 2 Bollingtons if you look at this page: http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/chs/parishes.htm#B).

There is also a coverage page which will tell you which years have been completed, but coverage is very good for most of Cheshire.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mike1979 on Monday 15 January 07 22:51 GMT (UK)
Dear All

I would be grateful for any information in the indexes on the Shaw family of Sutton (Lane Ends).  Marriages before 1800.

Particulaly Samuels, Solomons and Edwards.

Many many thanks for your help.

Kind regards
Mike
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Saturday 20 January 07 18:14 GMT (UK)
Hi, please can anybody check for any marriages of a Betty/Elizabeth Mullins (or any variations) in Macclesfield/Wildboarclough in about the 1830's, have checked the BMD's with so far no success.

Many Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Sunday 21 January 07 13:56 GMT (UK)
Hi, also please would it be possible to have a lookup for a John Mullins and Martha, 1814 or before in same kind of area.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 22 January 07 11:49 GMT (UK)
Hi, also please would it be possible to have a lookup for a John Mullins and Martha, 1814 or before in same kind of area.

Thanks

Anna


Hi Anna

           There is no marriage listed for an Eliz/Betty at all, there is one for a John Mullins dyer of Wildboarclough to Ann Hunt of Wildboarclough dated 5/February/1810 at Prestbury (right parish for WBC township)

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 22 January 07 11:54 GMT (UK)
Dear All

I would be grateful for any information in the indexes on the Shaw family of Sutton (Lane Ends).  Marriages before 1800.

Particulaly Samuels, Solomons and Edwards.

Many many thanks for your help.

Kind regards
Mike

Hi Mike

        There is nothing definate entry in the indexes pre 1800 for your Shaws, apart from the ones you already know about, not all entries have the township where they came from, so plenty of Shaws listed but no Soloman, and no way of knowing where the others were living.

sorry not much help I know.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hepburn on Monday 22 January 07 12:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,
could you look up a marriage for "Jayson",for a while now he's been trying to find these two marriages...James Bayley to Anne Pulestone 1741,James Bayley to Ann Hamnett 1747
(Stapeley)..thanks, Oonagh..
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 22 January 07 13:08 GMT (UK)
Hi

     Cant find any exact matches for Bayley, there is this for an Anne Puleston widow 1737 to John Puleston son of John at St Edith Shocklach by licence. Its the only Anne indexed.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hepburn on Monday 22 January 07 13:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks very much for your quick reply Peter,it's much appreciated.Oonagh.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Monday 22 January 07 13:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks so much for looking for me anyway, I suppose there might be a chance that elizabeth (betty) could have been married just over the border in Staffordshire, what do you think about this please?, would be very grateful for your opinion or anybodyelse's. John and Martha also only have one kid baptised in the Macclesfield St Michael Registers so maybe they could have been from elsewhere as well.

Thanks again

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 22 January 07 17:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Anna

            Have you found them in the 1841 census or other years ?
What records led you to the Mullins of Wildboarclough ?

I don't have any Staffordshire records sorry.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Monday 22 January 07 17:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, the only Mullins I have traced through the censuses is my 4 times greatgrandmother Hannah Hughes nee Mullins born 1810 and down on all the censuses she was on as being born in Wildboarclough, Betty is her sister and her parents are the John Mullins and Ann Hunt you kindly found for me, would be very grateful with any help you can give me with them in Cheshire though.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 23 January 07 12:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Kena

          Looking at the census of 1841 it shows Hannah and husband Peter living in Manchester with 3 children all born Lancashire, is this your family ?

Are you sure Betty had not died before marrying ?

I have checked the census by searching with Betty, keyword Wildboarclough and then again with keyword Macclesfield and then checked all the married ones in the marriage index, but no Mullins, sorry.

It is possible she married out of the county, but she is not showing up in the census.

peterbennett

           
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Tuesday 23 January 07 12:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for looking for me, am just going on what I have, I know there was a Betty Hudson wife of Peter living in Staffordshire who is said to have been born in Wildboarclough but can't find a marriage on Staffordshire BMD, the IGI or Familyhistoryonline for her, what do you think please?, as before would be very grateful for your opinion.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 23 January 07 15:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Kena  :)

Quote
I have checked the census by searching with Betty, keyword Wildboarclough and then again with keyword Macclesfield and then checked all the married ones in the marriage index, but no Mullins, sorry.

But just for you  ;)

Peter Hudson married Elizabeth Downes at St Peter Prestbury 24/Dec/1831 both from the township of Wildboarclough.

You really need to ask at the record office for a search of deaths in the Prestbury parish registers, from her baptism dates onwards.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Tuesday 23 January 07 15:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, thanks so much for that and for the tips.

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: RCB on Tuesday 23 January 07 19:00 GMT (UK)
What would we do without Peter Bennett and C0?

More favours, my cousins family this time. BOLTON's in Stockport

I'm back to James William Bolton born about 1801, in 1841 he is living Edgeley, Stockport with his wife Mary, so I'm looking for a marriage.

I found one baptism in 1785  Sarah Bolton daughter of John and Nancy Bolton, I think it was the Wesleyan Church Stockport?  didn't write it down ::)

I'm hoping John and Nancy are also parents of James 1801?  his first son is named John, and he has a daughter Nancy.

John born about 1836 goes on to marry Elizabeth (Betsy) Minikin, she and her sister Margaret show up in the 1841 census in the household of John and Mary Fletcher in Churchgate, Stockport.  The girls were born in Manchester, and I have no idea what relationship they have to the Fletchers.  I think they are probably orphans.  I'll try the Lancashire board.

One more question, probably should be on the general board.  My cousins father and brother went into care of some sort when their parents died around 1910.  Sisters were taken in by a family, but they didn't want the boys.  Both boys joined the army aged 14 towards the end of the First World war, would these lads have gone into the Workhouse?
                                            Thanks for any help  fred B
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cando on Wednesday 24 January 07 03:16 GMT (UK)
Looking for Peers in Cheshire

cando
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 24 January 07 08:04 GMT (UK)
I'm back to James William Bolton born about 1801, in 1841 he is living Edgeley, Stockport with his wife Mary, so I'm looking for a marriage.

I found one baptism in 1785  Sarah Bolton daughter of John and Nancy Bolton, I think it was the Wesleyan Church Stockport?  didn't write it down ::)

I'm hoping John and Nancy are also parents of James 1801?  his first son is named John, and he has a daughter Nancy.                                 

Hi Fred,

The only marriage I can see is for James BOLTON and Mary ROBINSON 24 Oct 1825 at Cheadle.  The indexes don't give any further information and the parents aren't shown on the PR entry at this time, but the witnesses might give you a clue.  I'd suggest that you contact Cheshire Records office with the marriage information and see if you can confirm it is your James.

If you look at the Cheshire Family History Society webiste there are a number of microfiche available to purchase for the Stockport area.

Sorry I can't help with the other questions.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 24 January 07 11:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter

Looking for a marriage for William PEERS to ?Ellen, at Stockport pre 1784 [year of birth of my ggg grandfather] 

Thanks
cando

Hi cando

            Sorry nothing in the indexes for William and Ellen, where did you get the referance for Ellen from ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cherylg on Wednesday 24 January 07 15:38 GMT (UK)
Hi

I wondered if you could help please.

I am trying to find the following marriage should be in the Congleton/Smallwood area.

George Foden c 1780 to Elizabeth ? c 1780 first child born 1816 in Astbury.

 
George  and Elizabeth are not on the 1841 census as they both must have passed away. 

Any help woudl be appreciated.

Regards
Cheryl

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 24 January 07 17:21 GMT (UK)
I wondered if you could help please.

I am trying to find the following marriage should be in the Congleton/Smallwood area.

George Foden c 1780 to Elizabeth ? c 1780 first child born 1816 in Astbury.

 
George  and Elizabeth are not on the 1841 census as they both must have passed away. 

Any help woudl be appreciated.

Hi Cheryl,

This is the best match:

George FODEN B. Husb m Eliz. TOWNLEY Sp 7 Oct 1810 Astbury

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cando on Thursday 25 January 07 11:59 GMT (UK)
Wm and ?Ellen Peers -

cando
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 25 January 07 12:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Cando

        Confused !! me!! alway's !! To be honest I was born confused so anything you throw at me won't make the slightest bit of difference.  :)

            There is a marriage of a William Peers cotton check maker of Levenshulme Manchester to a Sabra Heddington of the parish of Nantwich, marriage at Nantwich 12 June 1783.

Levenshulme being on the south side (Stockport side) of Manchester.

Still not sure where you get the name Ellen from ? are you saying the obituary could have said that Williams wife was Ellen or maybe Sabra ?

Like I said there are no William Peers marrying an Ellen in Stockport area.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 25 January 07 17:11 GMT (UK)
            There is a marriage of a William Peers cotton check maker of Levenshulme Manchester to a Sabra Heddington of the parish of Nantwich, marriage at Nantwich 12 June 1783.

Hi cando and Peter,

You can get the full transcript of the marriage here:
http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ as the Nantwich PR's have been transcribed.  The entry says Levenholme Manchester P Lancs and the witnesses were Thos Eaton jnr and Thos Birchall.  Both bride and groom signed the register and the marriage was by licence.   The Thomas Birchall mentioned as witness is probably one of mine......

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cando on Sunday 28 January 07 06:39 GMT (UK)
Thank you.

cando
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 28 January 07 11:09 GMT (UK)
Hi cando,

The Birchall's were farmers in the Nantwich area - I haven't found any in the cotton industry - yet!

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cando on Sunday 28 January 07 11:20 GMT (UK)

Thanks

cando
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Wednesday 31 January 07 15:58 GMT (UK)
Hi, please can anybody tell me if there is a marriage of a Noah Trafford and Ann Barton in Astbury at all in the index.

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 31 January 07 17:15 GMT (UK)
Hi, please can anybody tell me if there is a marriage of a Noah Trafford and Ann Barton in Astbury at all in the index.

Thanks

Anna


Hi Anna

            Dated 15 May 1815 at Astbury Noah described as a silk throwster.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Thursday 01 February 07 13:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, sorry it has taken me a little while to answer you, thanks very much for doing the lookup for me, please did it say which parish either of them were of?

Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 01 February 07 14:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Anna

        No. sorry, it did not say.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Thursday 01 February 07 14:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for that anyway, might have to check out the original entry in the parish registers.

Thanks again

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: doric on Thursday 01 February 07 23:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

I wonder if you could possibly help me.  I am researching my Westgarth family and my gt.gt.grandfather states that he was born in Altrincham, Cheshire in 1821.  I have been unable to trace a birth for him and would like to find out who his parents were.  I have found a birth for a Mary Westgarth in 1819 in Cheshire and whose parents were Harriet (nee Rowbottom) and William Westgarth.  The marriage for William and Harriet took place on 22/12/1817 in Bowden, Cheshire.  How can I find out if William and Harriet are also the parents of James?  I would be most apreciative of any help you could offer.

                              Kind regards,

                                 Dorothy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 02 February 07 12:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Dorothy

         Sorry I dont have any birth records, marriages only.
I did look for other Westgarth marriages in Cheshire but only found one, Peter Westgarth of Bowden and Jane Burgess of Middlewich, the marriage being at Middlewich 16 Feb 1804.

Could not find a marriage for Wm Westgarth at Bowden, but there is one for a William Westhead and Harriet Rowbotham  22/Dec/1817. Is this mistranscribed ?

There are very few Cheshire records online so I would suggest you send an email request to Cheshire Records office and they will search Bowden registers for you, they normally look at two years either side of the date you give them and don't charge.

Send your request to them at the email address in this link
http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.htm

Goog luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: doric on Friday 02 February 07 13:11 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for your prompt reply and for pointing me in the right direction Peter.  I will do that.  The name of William  'Westhead' is definitely a transcription error as I have it confirmed as William Westgarth and Harriet Rowbottom.  Just not sure if these two are my James parents.

Again thanks for your help, it is very much appreciated.


                          Kind regards,

                             Dorothy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: gillbill on Saturday 03 February 07 20:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
I can't find the marriage of my Great X 3 Grandfather who may have married in Cheshire. If I've got it right his son was born c1807 in Handforth, Wilmslow but I can find no siblings. According to his Baptism at St Bartholomew's Wilmslow his parents were John Holt & Ann. John's son George I have followed right up to date but George Holt's parents are a very solid brickwall!
I know there are quite a lot of Holt's in Lancs...no matches so far.
Any help much appreciated. Thanks
Gillbill
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 03 February 07 20:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Gill,
What is the name of your 3xggrandfather?  Is it John Holt and you are looking for a marriage to Ann around 1807?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: gillbill on Saturday 03 February 07 20:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean
My Great Grandfather x3 was John Holt wife Ann. The only son I've found was born 1806/1807 but he could be the first or last. Not very helpful I'm afraid for the marriage date.
Gillbill
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 05 February 07 20:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean
My Great Grandfather x3 was John Holt wife Ann. The only son I've found was born 1806/1807 but he could be the first or last. Not very helpful I'm afraid for the marriage date.
Gillbill

Hi Gill,

Unusual with such a common name, but the only marriage I can see is below and it does seem a bit early:

John HOLT, Carpenter m Ann MADDERS, Sp. 5th Feb 1776 at Knutsford.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 05 February 07 20:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Just about to head off to bed when I saw your reply - thank you.  You are the first contact with  possible  'connection'.  The time frame ie. pre 1837 is very hard to research.   I have had wonderful help from rootschatters.  I have lots of info from 1841 census onwards.

I do have a couple of wills to follow up that may confirm that this is the correct family.

Thank you Jean

cando

Hi cando,

I'm afraid that this isn't necessarily a connection as I think Thomas Birchall was possibly the Church Warden so would have witnessed lots of marriages, but if you find out differently please do let me know.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: gillbill on Monday 05 February 07 23:54 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean
Thanks for the John Holt/Ann Madders marriage I will see if I can find any connection. As you say a bit early but perhaps my George Holt was the "end?"
I see you have Lymm connections so have I but not your name.
Thanks
Gill
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JenClark on Wednesday 07 February 07 11:10 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Was hoping that someone could look in the index for the following couples:

Samuel Warburton marrying Mary Yardley 1768 probably Tilston area

James Warburton marrying Elizabeth Roberts 1742 not sure where but possibly same area

John Warburton marrying Ann Williams 1720 also not sure of where in Cheshire

Thanks so much :)

Jenny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 07 February 07 11:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Jenny

           There is a marriage indexed at St Mary Tilson by Banns for Samuel and Mary Yardley dated 30/September/1768.

         Nothing for the others, sorry.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JenClark on Wednesday 07 February 07 12:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks Peter, Does it say where they are from?

Jenny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 08 February 07 12:28 GMT (UK)
Thanks Peter, Does it say where they are from?

Jenny

Hi
    No, sorry it dosen't say.

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Wednesday 14 February 07 14:59 GMT (UK)
Hi, please can anybody lookup any John Lowndes's marriages in the late 1820's to early 1830's for me in Eaton/ Astbury/Congleton/Buglawton area for me, my John Lowndes was a widower when he got married to the lady I know about (my 4 times greatgrandmother) so would be v.grateful for any help anybody is able to give me with this one.

Many Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 14 February 07 16:34 GMT (UK)
Hi, please can anybody lookup any John Lowndes's marriages in the late 1820's to early 1830's for me in Eaton/ Astbury/Congleton/Buglawton area for me, my John Lowndes was a widower when he got married to the lady I know about (my 4 times greatgrandmother) so would be v.grateful for any help anybody is able to give me with this one.

Many Thanks

Anna


Hi Anna

        There is a marriage dated 19th February 1823 at Astbury St Mary for a John Lowndes widower bread baker and a Sarah Nicklin, could this be them ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Thursday 15 February 07 13:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks so much for that, I think it might have been a bit early for my John though as he was born in 1809/1810. He could have got married in Staffordshire I suppose as that was where his second marriage took place before they moved back to Cheshire again but so far I haven't been able to find a marriage for him there.

Thanks again anyway

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Melagbe on Thursday 15 February 07 15:04 GMT (UK)
Trying to find a mariage of a Timothy Davies a miller in the Tarvin area about 1800 - 1815.
I think his father is Thomas.

Many Thanks

Mel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 15 February 07 16:56 GMT (UK)
Trying to find a mariage of a Timothy Davies a miller in the Tarvin area about 1800 - 1815.
I think his father is Thomas.


Hi Mel,

There are these 2:
Timothy DAVIES m Betty PARKER 28 Dec 1795 at Frodsham
Timothy DAVIES m Catherine DIDSBURY 23 Mar 1832 at Frodsham

I also checked for DAVIS.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: enoch on Friday 16 February 07 05:29 GMT (UK)
Hello

I've just found these entries and wonder if I could ask if anyone can see a marriage for:

Joseph Weedall to Elizabeth (unknown surname)

Joseph a shipwright born c1780, first child possibly born 1811. Spouse Elizabeth born Northwich.

Many thanks
Linda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Chorlton on Friday 16 February 07 06:53 GMT (UK)
I am looking for a marriage in Ashton-Under-Lyne, but am not sure if that is classed as Cheshire or Lancashire ?

The name is Henry Chorlton born c1788, and Ann ?
Henry and Ann's first child was born in 1813, so I assume the marriage is between 1805 and 1813.

Henrys parents are George & Betty Chorlton, but I don't know where they were married, or born.

Thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 16 February 07 13:00 GMT (UK)
I am looking for a marriage in Ashton-Under-Lyne, but am not sure if that is classed as Cheshire or Lancashire ?

The name is Henry Chorlton born c1788, and Ann ?
Henry and Ann's first child was born in 1813, so I assume the marriage is between 1805 and 1813.

Henrys parents are George & Betty Chorlton, but I don't know where they were married, or born.

Thanks

Hi
    Sorry, but there are no marriages in any of the Cheshire Indexes, proberbly best to try Lancashire.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 16 February 07 13:03 GMT (UK)
Hello

I've just found these entries and wonder if I could ask if anyone can see a marriage for:

Joseph Weedall to Elizabeth (unknown surname)

Joseph a shipwright born c1780, first child possibly born 1811. Spouse Elizabeth born Northwich.

Many thanks
Linda

Hi

    Sorry but there are no marriages for a Joseph at all, plenty for John's.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: enoch on Friday 16 February 07 23:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter

re Joseph Weedall marriage.

Many thanks for checking. If he doesn't appear in the index can I assume he didn't marry in Cheshire?

Linda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 17 February 07 12:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter

re Joseph Weedall marriage.

Many thanks for checking. If he doesn't appear in the index can I assume he didn't marry in Cheshire?

Linda

The index is complete for the Gt Budworth (Northwich) area, and most other parishes at the time your looking at.
The name Weedall is one that can be wrongly transcribed in many ways, I have checked all the various spellings I can think of but cannot see a Joseph anywhere. Athough I wouldn't swear to it I would they did not marry in Cheshire.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cyndy on Saturday 17 February 07 17:05 GMT (UK)
Looking for info. on these marriages:-

JAMES BATE to MARGARET

and the marriage of their son

WILLIAM BATE[born abt1803] to PHEBE[PHOEBE]born abt1806

The Bate family seem to live in the Sutton area of Cheshire.Many have been married at Halton Church.

Thanks, Cyndy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jillruss on Saturday 17 February 07 19:19 GMT (UK)
I wonder if you can help?

I've failed to find the following marriages in parishes of Shropshire immediately neighbouring the Cheshire parishes of Audlem, Acton, Marbury & Malpas.

Given that marriages almost always take place in the bride's home parish, I wondered if the brides in question just might have come from 'over the border'!

They are:-

1. Philip Simon(s) & Margaret  c. 1690-1720
2. Thomas Simon(s) & Susan(na) c.1740-50
3. Joseph Reynolds & Mary c.1735-50
4. Thomas Stubbs & Mary c.1730-60

Thanks in anticipation.

Jill
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: enoch on Saturday 17 February 07 23:05 GMT (UK)

 Athough I wouldn't swear to it I would they did not marry in Cheshire.

This is very helpfull
Thanks Peter

Linda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 18 February 07 11:57 GMT (UK)
I wonder if you can help?

I've failed to find the following marriages in parishes of Shropshire immediately neighbouring the Cheshire parishes of Audlem, Acton, Marbury & Malpas.

Given that marriages almost always take place in the bride's home parish, I wondered if the brides in question just might have come from 'over the border'!

They are:-

1. Philip Simon(s) & Margaret  c. 1690-1720
2. Thomas Simon(s) & Susan(na) c.1740-50
3. Joseph Reynolds & Mary c.1735-50
4. Thomas Stubbs & Mary c.1730-60

Thanks in anticipation.

Jill

Hi Jill

        Nothing showing up for the Simons or Reynolds, but there is a possible borders marriage at St Bertoline Barthomely 1735/36 Thomas Stubbs to Mary Proudlove. Stubbs is a very common surname so its a bit of a long shot.

sorry couldn't help more

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 18 February 07 12:05 GMT (UK)
Looking for info. on these marriages:-

JAMES BATE to MARGARET

and the marriage of their son

WILLIAM BATE[born abt1803] to PHEBE[PHOEBE]born abt1806

The Bate family seem to live in the Sutton area of Cheshire.Many have been married at Halton Church.

Thanks, Cyndy

Hi Cyndy

          Sorry nothing showing up in the Cheshire indexes.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jillruss on Sunday 18 February 07 12:25 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking, Peter.

Jill
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Melagbe on Sunday 18 February 07 15:13 GMT (UK)
Re Timothy Davies in Tarvin area

many thanks for checking. Looks as though I will have to look outside the area.

Mel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: millymcb on Monday 19 February 07 18:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris....wonder if you would be able to help out with these two? I don't know birthplaces but have a little info on children.


William Derbyshire (b abt 1781, ag labourer) marriage to Martha (b abt 1776)

They had William Derbyshire (b abt 1814 in Marple) and possibly Benjamin Derbyshire b abt 1811 also in Marple. I don't know of any other children but there could be.  1811 is the earliest I have. I am hoping the marriage may have been in Marple but of course could have been somewhere else.

They lived in Marple for a while and then moved to Bollington pre 1841 where the family settled until the 1880s. Later descendants  (eg William 1814) married and I believe also buried at Prestbury Parish Church but I don't know about William and Martha themselves.

ALSO

James Maurice (b abt 1791 ag labourer)  and Hannah (b abt 1791)

In census returns they are listed with the following children but I do not know for sure that they were all Hannah's children or whether James married twice. There could be other children I don't know of.  There is strange spacing between the children which raises questions as to whose they are.

Mary Maurice 1815 Wilmslow
Ellen Maurice 1815 ?
James Maurice 1819 Wilmslow ( I think he is theirs)
Samuel Maurice 1824 Wilmslow
Daniel Maurice 1831 Wilmsow
Aibgail Maurice 1832 Macclesfield

In 1841 they live in Bollington. and all the children are there except James and Samuel. By 1851 they have all gone but we now have James age 32 (hence slight confusion over him). Mary married William Derbyshire (1814 above) at Prestbury Parish Church and lived in Bollington with him. Samuel went to live in Macclesfied. Not sure yet about the others.

Sorry I don't have anything else. Hope it's not too vague.

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 20 February 07 11:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris....wonder if you would be able to help out with these two? I don't know birthplaces but have a little info on children.


William Derbyshire (b abt 1781, ag labourer) marriage to Martha (b abt 1776)

They had William Derbyshire (b abt 1814 in Marple) and possibly Benjamin Derbyshire b abt 1811 also in Marple. I don't know of any other children but there could be.  1811 is the earliest I have. I am hoping the marriage may have been in Marple but of course could have been somewhere else.

They lived in Marple for a while and then moved to Bollington pre 1841 where the family settled until the 1880s. Later descendants  (eg William 1814) married and I believe also buried at Prestbury Parish Church but I don't know about William and Martha themselves.

ALSO

James Maurice (b abt 1791 ag labourer)  and Hannah (b abt 1791)

In census returns they are listed with the following children but I do not know for sure that they were all Hannah's children or whether James married twice. There could be other children I don't know of.  There is strange spacing between the children which raises questions as to whose they are.

Mary Maurice 1815 Wilmslow
Ellen Maurice 1815 ?
James Maurice 1819 Wilmslow ( I think he is theirs)
Samuel Maurice 1824 Wilmslow
Daniel Maurice 1831 Wilmsow
Aibgail Maurice 1832 Macclesfield

In 1841 they live in Bollington. and all the children are there except James and Samuel. By 1851 they have all gone but we now have James age 32 (hence slight confusion over him). Mary married William Derbyshire (1814 above) at Prestbury Parish Church and lived in Bollington with him. Samuel went to live in Macclesfied. Not sure yet about the others.

Sorry I don't have anything else. Hope it's not too vague.

Thanks  :)

Hi

  This one looks as if it could be yours datewise, at Stockport 27/Nov/1809 William Derbyshire husbandman and Martha Richards widow.
There is only one other possible in the area dated 10/July/1803 William a stationer and Martha Rothwell also at Stockport.

Checked all the various spelling of the name Mourice and found this one at Wilmslow dated 11/July/1808 James Morris and Hannah Hatton

nothing certain, but hope it helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: millymcb on Tuesday 20 February 07 12:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much for that.... :)

 I don't suppose it gave any idea of parish church or anything else did it? 



Hi

  This one looks as if it could be yours datewise, at Stockport 27/Nov/1809 William Derbyshire husbandman and Martha Richards widow.
There is only one other possible in the area dated 10/July/1803 William a stationer and Martha Rothwell also at Stockport.

Checked all the various spelling of the name Mourice and found this one at Wilmslow dated 11/July/1808 James Morris and Hannah Hatton

nothing certain, but hope it helps

peterbennett
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Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 20 February 07 13:08 GMT (UK)
Hi

  The Stockport marriage would have been St Mary and Wilmslow was St Bartholamew.
 Very few churches other than the main parish church were licenced for weddings until around the 1840's.

These links should help with the location of Churches and records etc.

http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/chs/stockport.html

http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/chs/wilmslow.html

Stockport Library holds copies of the parish registers for their area as well as Cheshire RO and Manchester Central Library also.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: millymcb on Tuesday 20 February 07 13:29 GMT (UK)
Thanks Peter - that's great. 

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Kristin15 on Wednesday 21 February 07 00:26 GMT (UK)
Hello,
What a wonderful offer. I am looking for a marriage for George GARNER and Elizabeth CHESTERS about 1790 Alsager, Bat\rtholmey, Cheshire.
Also a Samuel CHESTERS and Sarah LEWIS about 1770 the same parish.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Carolyn
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 21 February 07 11:36 GMT (UK)
Hello,
What a wonderful offer. I am looking for a marriage for George GARNER and Elizabeth CHESTERS about 1790 Alsager, Bat\rtholmey, Cheshire.
Also a Samuel CHESTERS and Sarah LEWIS about 1770 the same parish.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Carolyn

Hi Carolyn

     Welcome to Rootschat  :)

There is a marriage dated 25/June/1768 for Samuel Chesters and Sarah Lewis at Barthomely

Also at Barthomely 6/Dec/1790 Elizabeth Chesters 19 spinster and George Garner bat. 20 labourer.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Kristin15 on Wednesday 21 February 07 19:30 GMT (UK)
Dear Peter,
Thank you so much. This is absolutely great. I appreciate your time and effort. You have helped put another branch on my tree.
Kind Regards,
Carolyn
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Lazylover on Wednesday 21 February 07 22:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter

Could you have a look for a marriage between

Timothy DAVIES (Born about 1803; Crowton, Cheshire)

and

Sarah ______ (Born about 1802; Chester)

In 1851 they lived in Handbridge.

Their first child was born in 1830 in Chester (Cathedral District) and her name was  Betsy.

Sorry I have no more information.

Thanks in advance

Carole
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 22 February 07 11:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole

           Welcome to Rootchat  :)

            The only Timothy Davies/Sarah marriage around the right date is this one at St Oswald's Chester 11/April/1826 to a Sarah Wood, Timothy is described as a miller.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Lazylover on Thursday 22 February 07 16:21 GMT (UK)
Thank you thank you thank you thank you

Giant Hug for you

 ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: fairlane on Friday 23 February 07 20:56 GMT (UK)
Hello Peter

Please would you look in your indexes for a marriage between William Potts and Mary abt 1780 in the Marton area. The first baptism I can find is in 1780 for Richard Potts. According to William's gravestone he died in 1840 aged 81. Many thanks.

Fairlane
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 24 February 07 12:53 GMT (UK)
Hello Peter

Please would you look in your indexes for a marriage between William Potts and Mary abt 1780 in the Marton area. The first baptism I can find is in 1780 for Richard Potts. According to William's gravestone he died in 1840 aged 81. Many thanks.

Fairlane

Hi Fairlane

             There is nothing in the indexes that I can find for them, sorry.
Is the Marton your interested in the one near Congleton or Winsford ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: fairlane on Saturday 24 February 07 18:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter

Thanks for looking - the Marton I'm interested in is the one near Congleton.

best wishes,
Fairlane
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rosndel on Sunday 25 February 07 03:57 GMT (UK)
Hello Peter,

Do you have a marriage for George Deane who was born anout 1781 in Adlington, and lived in Bollington ? (where his children were born, the first I know about being Mary born about 1819) George's wife's name was Ann and according to the 1851 census she was born in Derbyshire so this might be a long shot.

Would appreciate any help in locating this couple. Thank you.

Rosndel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 25 February 07 12:07 GMT (UK)
Hello Peter,

Do you have a marriage for George Deane who was born anout 1781 in Adlington, and lived in Bollington ? (where his children were born, the first I know about being Mary born about 1819) George's wife's name was Ann and according to the 1851 census she was born in Derbyshire so this might be a long shot.

Would appreciate any help in locating this couple. Thank you.

Rosndel

Hi

    There are two marriages that may fit,
21/Feb/1820 George Deane wood turner and Ann Waring.
11/Jun/1810 George Dean cotton spinner of Bollington and Ann Wilkinson of Rainow.

both marriages at Prestbury.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rosndel on Sunday 25 February 07 12:20 GMT (UK)
Hello Peter,

Thanks for that. I lean toward the latter if only because it places George at Bollington and has the couple married before Mary was born!

Thanks a lot,
Rosndel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: daveyowen on Monday 26 February 07 13:04 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris,

Can you please look up a few things for me.

My gt gt gt grandfather William Owen born 1788, married Mary Dykes in Barthomley, Cheshire 30/12/1813. Can you posibly check to see if there are any parent names ? Just confirming below.

My gt gt gt gt grandfather John Owen married Sarak Walker at Barthomley, Cheshire 23/10/1774. Can you possibly check to see if there are any parent names ?

Many thanks,

David    :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 26 February 07 16:33 GMT (UK)
Hi David

            Sorry but I only have the marriage index. You should be able to obtain a copy of the full register entry by emailing the Cheshire Records Office at the address in the link below, just make sure you give them all the names dates and churches, so there will not be a search fee involved.

http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.tm

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: junev on Tuesday 27 February 07 17:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

New to Rootschat, hope you can help with 2 marriages for me! Surname is Carrington (or variant). I have Richard (Recardus) whose first recorded child (Ellena) was baptised in 1662 in Eastham and then Richard's father John (Johannis) whose first recorded child was baptised in 1620 again in Eastham. I have no idea of the female names.

Many thanks,

Junev
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 28 February 07 11:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Janev

           Welcome to Rootschat  :)

Sorry no good news I am afraid, there is no mention of those marriages at all in any of the published Cheshire index's.

peterbennett



Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: junev on Thursday 01 March 07 19:20 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Thanks for this. It may be that they married in Lancashire as Eastham was a major ferry route over the Mersey at that time.

I'm sure I'll be back with more requests!

Junev
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sredding on Thursday 01 March 07 23:23 GMT (UK)
Any information on this Cheshire/Lancashire Bennett family? Thanks.

Christopher Allen married Amelia Bennett on January 16, 1826, at Manchester, St. Johns, Lancashire, a Church of England chapel that no longer stands but is marked by a monument.  On the parish marriage certificate, Christopher Allen is listed as a brass founder.  The certificate is witnessed by Richard Fosbrook Allen and Peter Bennett, Jr.  Richard was Christopher’s younger brother; Peter is no doubt related to Amelia, but we do not know in what way. In 1844, Christopher and Amelia emigrated to America and settled in Cleveland, Ohio.

Parish records show that Amelia Bennett, daughter of Samuel and Betty Bennett, was baptized on June 29, 1806 at Manchester Cathedral in Lancashire.

Thomas (brother of Amelia) and Anne Bennett, lived in Manchester, England.  In 1835 or 1836 they sailed for America and bought a farm at North Eaton, Ohio.

Thomas's father Samuel Bennett came to America about 1838, went to Dubuque, Iowa, and bought two sections of land.  On the return trip by boat, he became very ill, died and was buried in the Mississippi River before the family were aware of his death.     

Thomas Bennett died in an accident and was buried on January 8, 1874, at the age of 69 and is buried at Woodland Cemetery, Cleveland. Buried next to Thomas are his wife Anne, buried at age 71 on August 10 , 1891; Martha Clark Jackson, Ann’s mother, buried September 12, 1875 at the age of 77; and Thomas C. Bennett, a grandson by Hamlet Bennett who owned the cemetery plots, age 12, buried March 15, 1891.  When Thomas and Anne came to America from England about 1836, she would have been only 16 years old (she was 16 years younger than Thomas).  Other children of Hamlet and Belle were Nellie (Heina), Ruth (Pate), Frances (Maurer), Bess, and Charles (wife Rita).  Hamlet died at age 86 in 1931.  Hamlet’s sister Rachel was born about 1843, married George Dart in 1861, and was the mother of George B., Annie (Bates), Ellen (Kaster), Janice, Flora (Steves), Martha (McDowell), and Grace (Mayette).  Rachel died in 1924 at the age of 81, with services at the Methodist Episcopal Church in Cleveland.

Amelia Bennett Allen’s brother Joseph remained in England.  In 1841, Joseph was at Hope Street in Heaton Norris (between Manchester and Stockport), age 40, a waste dealer, married to Hannah age 40.  Their children were Ann 15; Samuel, a brassfinisher, age 15; James, age 10.  Also in the household was Sophia Holden, 15, a cotton weaver.  Everyone in the household had been born in Lancashire (Heaton Norris is in Lancashire).  The ages are not exact because ages were rounded to the nearest 5 in this census. 

Samuel, the son of Joseph living with his father in 1841, was Christopher Allen’s apprentice. We believe Samuel was baptized at Hatherlow Congregational Church in Stockport, Cheshire, on June 14, 1823, the son of Joseph and Mary Bennett.  If so, Mary must have died; in 1841 Joseph’s wife is Hannah. This would make Samuel 18 years old at the time of the 1841 census, a year before his uncle Christopher departed for America.  In the 1851 census, Samuel Bennett is in Hulme at 15 Melbourne Street, at age 28 (born Stockport, Cheshire) with wife Mary (28 and born in Manchester), son Thomas (age 4, born in Chorlton, Lancashire), and daughter Mary Jane (age 1, born Hulme, Lancashire).  Samuel is a master brassfounder at this time.  The Slater’s directory of the same year lists Samuel Bennett as a partner in Bennett and Storey, brass founders.

also requested on the Lancashire board
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,218037.msg1136088.html#msg1136088
Title: Re:Samual and Hannah Collier Marriage - Stockport
Post by: millymcb on Monday 05 March 07 14:16 GMT (UK)
Hello Peter, Chris or anyone else who may be able to help..I'd be most grateful ;D

I'm looking for Marriage of Samuel Collier (b 1812/13) to Hannah (b 1812/13)...probably in Stockport and baptism of their (presumed) first daughter Ellen (census always gives year of birth as 1836).

All later census shows all three as being born in Stockport. He was a clogger. 

I'm guessing the marriage would have been about 1834/5 as that is just before Ellen was born but there is no daughter Hannah so there could have been a child before Ellen who did not survive.

In 1841 they lived at Hempshaw Lane, Stockport.

For info: There is another Samuel Collier from Stockport about that time with daughter Ellen but wife Suzanna. They lived in High Lane. I've checked and it is not the same family.


By 1851 they had moved to Sculcoates/Sutton in Yorkshire


There are also the following siblings post 1837 and  I may send off for a birth cert for one eventually but have not done so yet.
Samuel 1838
Robert 1840
William 1843
Richard 1846
Harriet 1848
George 1850


Thankyou very much.. :) :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 05 March 07 16:37 GMT (UK)
Hi

     There seems to be just one marriage around that time period.

Samuel Collier to Hannah Dodge Jadburn at St Mary Cheadle dated 9/May/1835.

I suspect the name Jadburn is a mistranscription but of what I am not sure. Checking other indexes for the same name anytime anywhere brings up nothing.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: millymcb on Monday 05 March 07 16:45 GMT (UK)
Hi

     There seems to be just one marriage around that time period.

Samuel Collier to Hannah Dodge Jadburn at St Mary Cheadle dated 9/May/1835.

I suspect the name Jadburn is a mistranscription but of what I am not sure. Checking other indexes for the same name anytime anywhere brings up nothing.

regards

peterbennett

That looks like the right one. In 1841 they are living with a family called Chadburn.  I thought it was just another family renting rooms but now can investigate as possible in-laws.

Thank you ever so much :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: celia on Monday 05 March 07 17:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Milly
I shouldn't put this on here but it might help ;)
Ellen Collier was C 4th June 1843 St Thomas Stockport
Father Samuel Collier Mother Hanna Collier (has a source)

Celia
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: millymcb on Monday 05 March 07 17:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Milly
I shouldn't put this on here but it might help ;)
Ellen Collier was C 4th June 1843 St Thomas Stockport
Father Samuel Collier Mother Hanna Collier (has a source)

Celia

Thanks for that Celia.  The birth is 1836 so either it was done late  or mis-transcribed so I'll put on my list of originals to take a look out.

 :) :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: millymcb on Monday 05 March 07 17:36 GMT (UK)
Hi

     There seems to be just one marriage around that time period.

Samuel Collier to Hannah Dodge Jadburn at St Mary Cheadle dated 9/May/1835.

I suspect the name Jadburn is a mistranscription but of what I am not sure. Checking other indexes for the same name anytime anywhere brings up nothing.

regards

peterbennett

That looks like the right one. In 1841 they are living with a family called Chadburn.  I thought it was just another family renting rooms but now can investigate as possible in-laws.

Thank you ever so much :) :) :) :)

Hello again :)

I've checked the 1841 census and if those Chadburn's are the in-law's then Hannah's parents should be called Richard and Martha.    Would you (or anyone) be able to look and see if a baptism comes up for Hannah (most likely in Stockport) around 1812 (although 1841 census puts it at 1816 and 1871 as  1807 so I'm not entirely sure of the date)

Dodge is an odd middle name - perhaps that is HER mother's maiden name.

Thanks again for all the help
 :) :)

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 06 March 07 13:33 GMT (UK)
Hi

     I don't have access to baptism records and very few for Stockport are available in the IGI, none for Hannah Chadburn.
I would suggest you put a separate request on this board you may catch someone who's going to the record office.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,205.0.html

As to marriages for Richard there are two, neither of which are to a Martha or a Dodge.

22/January/1789 Richard a weaver and Lettice Wilkinson at Stockport.
1/September/1795 muslin weaver and Ann Shelmerdine also at Stockport.

Just found a marriage which looks as if it may be the one.

Richard Chatburn weaver 25/October/1801 to Martha Harrop at Stockport by licence.
This where the Dodge connection seems to arrive
Martha Dodge married Robert Harrop 26/Nov/1774 at Stockport.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: millymcb on Tuesday 06 March 07 13:42 GMT (UK)
Hi

     I don't have access to baptism records and very few for Stockport are available in the IGI, none for Hannah Chadburn.
I would suggest you put a separate request on this board you may catch someone who's going to the record office.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,205.0.html

As to marriages for Richard there are two, neither of which are to a Martha or a Dodge.

22/January/1789 Richard a weaver and Lettice Wilkinson at Stockport.
1/September/1795 muslin weaver and Ann Shelmerdine also at Stockport.

Just found a marriage which looks as if it may be the one.

Richard Chatburn weaver 25/October/1801 to Martha Harrop at Stockport by licence.
This where the Dodge connection seems to arrive
Martha Dodge married Robert Harrop 26/Nov/1774 at Stockport.

hope this helps

peterbennett

That Dodge connection is really interesting...thank you so much. I'll look into it all.  The expertise of you and others on this site never ceases to amaze :) :) :)

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Noreen Rose on Friday 09 March 07 16:20 GMT (UK)
WOOD

I am looking for a marriage for the following couple, their grave is in Brereton, can you help?   

William WOOD 70 Farmer
Jane  63

These are their ages in 1841 and they live at Sproston, Middlewich.

Their son Joseph WOOD bn 1803 married Elizabeth? and son John WOOD married Anne ?   John is mentioned on the grave stone but not Joseph, would it be possible to find either of their marriages please?

Noreen Rose
York
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 09 March 07 17:30 GMT (UK)
WOOD

I am looking for a marriage for the following couple, their grave is in Brereton, can you help?   

William WOOD 70 Farmer
Jane  63

These are their ages in 1841 and they live at Sproston, Middlewich.

Their son Joseph WOOD bn 1803 married Elizabeth? and son John WOOD married Anne ?   John is mentioned on the grave stone but not Joseph, would it be possible to find either of their marriages please?

Noreen Rose
York


Hi Noreen  :)

             Cannot find anything for Joseph, but there are these that look mabe right for John and William.

William of Astbury 6/June/1797 at Brereton to Jane Pierpoint by Licence
John of Astbury 19/Sept/1820 at Brereton to Ann Lea by Licence

Hope this helps a bit

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Noreen Rose on Friday 09 March 07 17:58 GMT (UK)
Wow!

This is very kind of you, thank you very much, I started to look for ths family of in laws with just the deaths on the grave stones at Brereton.

Kind regards

Noreen

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Noreen Rose on Friday 09 March 07 18:18 GMT (UK)
Peter

Help, I am unable to locate the reply to my WOOD query, having thnked you before I recorded it silly me!!  I was so pleased

Noreen
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 10 March 07 12:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Noreen

              It on the previous page.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,136771.msg1147433.html#msg1147433

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Thursday 15 March 07 14:17 GMT (UK)
Hi, please can anybody tell me if there is a marriage of a William Beresford (or variant) and Mary Ann Washington in the indexes anywhere, think Mary Ann might have been from Barthomeley and the marriage would have taken place in the 1600's sometime.

Many Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 15 March 07 14:39 GMT (UK)
Hi, please can anybody tell me if there is a marriage of a William Beresford (or variant) and Mary Ann Washington in the indexes anywhere, think Mary Ann might have been from Barthomeley and the marriage would have taken place in the 1600's sometime.

Many Thanks

Anna


Hi

     Sorry but nothing showing up in any of my Cheshire indexes.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Thursday 15 March 07 14:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for looking for me anyway.

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: tine on Monday 19 March 07 13:42 GMT (UK)
Hi wonder if you can help.......Looking for a marriage James Boyer to Mary Broady l827 Great Budworth.....trying to trace there parents....thankyou.....Tine
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 19 March 07 14:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Tine

      Welcome to Rootschat  :)

     The marriage was indexed as 12/March/1827 but no parents names are mentioned.
      Do you have any other details for them IE ages, children, census, etc.

      There are some entries in the IGI that may tie in with this couple, have you found them ?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bq/

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: tine on Monday 19 March 07 15:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,

thankyou for the help, and yes I do have more information......apparently Mary had a son John Broady in approx l825 and having tried to research this over about three years Ive come to a dead end....let me explain.....John Broady was my great great grandfather, and it was only on delving into the past did I find out that Mary his mother,  was unmarried at the time of his birth, she then went on to marry James Boyer who I believe was Johns father in l827 in great Budworth Cheshire,  I believe Mary's parents may be Tom and Mary Broady all from the Great Budworth and Moulton area of cheshire. I think Mary and James went on to have 4 more children Richard William Ann and Ruth but have no proof to actually tie these children in with Mary and James.....its been a bit of a stumbling block really and other members of the family far and wide who Ive traced cant get beyond this so anything you could find would be appreciated. ps John Broady married Sarah Phipps in mid l840"s
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 19 March 07 17:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,

thankyou for the help, and yes I do have more information......apparently Mary had a son John Broady in approx l825 and having tried to research this over about three years Ive come to a dead end....let me explain.....John Broady was my great great grandfather, and it was only on delving into the past did I find out that Mary his mother,  was unmarried at the time of his birth, she then went on to marry James Boyer who I believe was Johns father in l827 in great Budworth Cheshire,  I believe Mary's parents may be Tom and Mary Broady all from the Great Budworth and Moulton area of cheshire. I think Mary and James went on to have 4 more children Richard William Ann and Ruth but have no proof to actually tie these children in with Mary and James.....its been a bit of a stumbling block really and other members of the family far and wide who Ive traced cant get beyond this so anything you could find would be appreciated. ps John Broady married Sarah Phipps in mid l840"s

Hi
     I think it may be best if you ask for a lookup of the Gt Budworth registers on this board http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,6.0.html
A lookup of the birth of John Broady and the possible siblings.
It is unlikely that the original marriage entry will show the parents of Mary and James but worth a look.

Did John Broady's marriage certificate give any clues as to father and who were the witnesses ?

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: tine on Tuesday 20 March 07 14:28 GMT (UK)
thanks for the help peter and yes  from the information ive recived his  father  isjames boyer, but from what we can understand it was policy in those days to take mothers surname  if parents were not married.  I will take your advice and have a look on the boards you have mentioned....once again thankyou
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Les de B on Friday 23 March 07 11:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris

I'm looking for any details of a marriage between Charles Willcock and Sarah Eardley, 18/5/1824, Astbury, Cheshire, thanks.

Regards

Les de Belin
(Sydney AUS)

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 23 March 07 11:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Les

         Welcome, nice to see your first post on the boards  :)

The marriage index show that Sarah Eardley married Chas Wilcocks school master married by licence.

If you send an email to the Cheshire RO at the address in the link below and give them the marriage details you can ask for a copy of the licence and any accompanying bond.
http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/shop/

The bond may show a relatives name, but is unlikely to give parents details.
They are fairly quick and would only make a small charge to cover cost of copying etc.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 23 March 07 12:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris

I'm looking for any details of a marriage between Charles Willcock and Sarah Eardley, 18/5/1824, Astbury, Cheshire, thanks.

Regards

Les de Belin
(Sydney AUS)



Hi Again

Just had a good look at the 1841 census

1841 HO107-119-11-Folio 13 The Parks Congleton

Charles Wilcock  42  school master    not born in county
Edward               12                                  born in county
Elizabeth            10                                      ~         ~
George                7
Charles               5
Soloman              1
Sarah                 38

And on the same page

1841 HO107-119-11-Folio 13  The Parks Congleton  

Elizabeth Eardley 85  independant          born in county
Louisa Willcock    14  female servant         ~    ~    ~

The 1841 census does not give relationships, so its quite conceivable that Louisa is related to Elizabeth Eardley

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Les de B on Friday 23 March 07 12:49 GMT (UK)
Thanks again for your ongoing help, Peter. I'll follow up your advice regarding emailing the Cheshire RO.

Regarding the 1841 Census, Louisa Willcock aged 14 would probably be the great grand daughter(?) of Elizabeth Eardley. Louisa's mother is Sarah Willcock (nee Eardley) in the other Census you supplied. Sarah's mother was Mary Eardley (nee Badcock), so that's why I presume Elizabeth could be the great grandmother.

Regards

Les de Belin
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: dyoll on Friday 23 March 07 15:00 GMT (UK)
hi chris just a long shot.   
do you have a marriage for sanuel lloyd and jane ? In chester around 1818-22
                   thank,s Pauline
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 24 March 07 13:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Pauline

             Sorry to say there is no Samuel Lloyd/Jane marriage indexed at all.

             Do you have any more information on them, census or where they were born etc.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 24 March 07 19:30 GMT (UK)
Regarding the 1841 Census, Louisa Willcock aged 14 would probably be the great grand daughter(?) of Elizabeth Eardley. Louisa's mother is Sarah Willcock (nee Eardley) in the other Census you supplied. Sarah's mother was Mary Eardley (nee Badcock), so that's why I presume Elizabeth could be the great grandmother.

Les, if you have an interest in the Eardley surname you may want to have a look at this site: http://www.eardley.org/ - lots of interesting information and I think there are some family trees on there if you dig around.  Also a message board, I'm sure that they'd like to hear from you if you haven't already been in touch.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Les de B on Sunday 25 March 07 00:46 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that information Jean, I will certainly pay that website a visit!

Regards

Les
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: AH on Sunday 25 March 07 13:00 BST (UK)
Hello
I wonder whether you could look up the marriage of a John Roylance and Sarah?. He appears on the 1841 census aged 35 (actually 37) living at Upton Court Stockport. His eldest child is aged 10 years on the 1841 (20 on 1851 census)census so presumably married around 1829-1832 ish?
Any help gratefully received!
With thanks
AH
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 26 March 07 11:38 BST (UK)
Hi AK

       There is a marriage at St Mary Cheadle dated 20th June 1826 John Roylance and Sarah Jent.

There is only one other Jent marriage in the index for the area, (although plenty of Gent's)

Ann Jent to John Bent at Cheadle 18th July 1819. Maybe related.

Regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: AH on Monday 26 March 07 16:10 BST (UK)
Thanks for looking that up.
I suppose if thats the only John Roylance and Sarah it must be them? I know that on the 1851 census John and Sarah have a ?Aaron Gent? brother-in law living with them and I suppose its not inconceivable that Gent and Jent are a bit interchangeable....sometimes I wish I had one of those bibles with everything nicely written down going back to 1066 or some such date :P...still I suppose that would spoil the fun  ::)!!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Cornish Terrier on Monday 26 March 07 17:28 BST (UK)
G'day there,
This is a bit of a long-shot but would be interested to know if there is any record of the name 'Trewhella' (var.) having been married in Cheshire.
Been researching the name for nearly thirty years and still have some to track down.
IF possible (and ONLY IF possible) I would appreciate a lookup.

Ian
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 26 March 07 17:39 BST (UK)
G'day there,
This is a bit of a long-shot but would be interested to know if there is any record of the name 'Trewhella' (var.) having been married in Cheshire.
Been researching the name for nearly thirty years and still have some to track down.
IF possible (and ONLY IF possible) I would appreciate a lookup.

Ian

Hi Ian

         Welcome to Rootschat  :)

The marriage indexes don't show any Trewhella's but does have quite a few Trelva, Trelfar and Trelfa, these are the closest. if you need any details please ask

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Cornish Terrier on Monday 26 March 07 18:30 BST (UK)
Peter,
A second reply to this as I am not sure my attachment worked.
The address for the new Penwith Genealogy forum is as follows:-

http://azazella.proboards41.com/

I tried to copy it as a hyperlink but it didn't work in the note. (Will have to start learning a bit more about these types of things!)
Have been working with computers since the mid-70's but had a period of several years where I did not have Internet access. It is only now about four months since I had renewed access so a lot of things are a big learning curve.

I reckon you will be able to sort the above out and we might get some more information flow going.

Best Regards,

Ian
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Cornish Terrier on Monday 26 March 07 18:36 BST (UK)
Peter,
My second note appears to have gone through ok with the supplied address 'hyperlinked'.
However, it would appear my original note may not have made it.
So, basically, thank you for your look up and expedient response.
I did not really expect a positive result but I do now at least know that Cheshire was not a place where my people married - at least prior to 1837!

Thanks again,

Ian
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SShand on Friday 30 March 07 08:45 BST (UK)
Dear Chris,

I'm looking for the marriage certificate for Miriam Massey and Thomas Hinton at Great Budworth, Cheshire. I believe this was in September 1812.
Does this show her mother's maiden name ? I would be particularly interested if it does.

Thanks so much!
Susie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 30 March 07 14:40 BST (UK)
Hi Susie

       Welcome to Rootschat  :)

Sorry but no marriage certificates in the UK prior to 1837.
The parish records will not show Miriams mothers maiden name, it is also very likely that her mother and father are not be mentioned either.

There was some research done for another member a couple of years ago for the same family, maybe they have the answer.
You can find it in this link.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,54684.msg223311/topicseen.html#msg223311

Good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SShand on Friday 30 March 07 15:01 BST (UK)
Thanks Peter! I'm very new to this as you can gather...
Will try a different approach!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: enoch on Sunday 01 April 07 07:26 BST (UK)
Some time ago Peter generously searched the marriage index for Joseph Weedall but was unable to find him.

After much searching on the LDS site I've found the following marriage which looks promising but is a patron submitted entry with no source details.

Joseph Widdall / Elizabeth Widby 16 April 1810 Sandbach

I would be very appreciative if these names could be checked in the index.

Many thanks
Linda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 01 April 07 08:58 BST (UK)
Some time ago Peter generously searched the marriage index for Joseph Weedall but was unable to find him.

After much searching on the LDS site I've found the following marriage which looks promising but is a patron submitted entry with no source details.

Joseph Widdall / Elizabeth Widby 16 April 1810 Sandbach

I would be very appreciative if these names could be checked in the index.

Hi Linda,

The index has Jos WIDDALL m Eliz WIDBY 16 April 1810 at Wilmslow

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: enoch on Sunday 01 April 07 09:11 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks so much for this...

Now to find out if he's my man!

Linda



Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: gilbert scott on Tuesday 03 April 07 22:22 BST (UK)
Hi CHRIS i am looking for the marriage for robert clayton davis & elizabeth barlow first child born 1888-9 son frank davis stockport cheshire.



 gilbert
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: millymcb on Wednesday 04 April 07 00:58 BST (UK)
Hi Chris....wonder if you would be able to help out with these two? I don't know birthplaces but have a little info on children.


William Derbyshire (b abt 1781, ag labourer) marriage to Martha (b abt 1776)

They had William Derbyshire (b abt 1814 in Marple) and possibly Benjamin Derbyshire b abt 1811 also in Marple. I don't know of any other children but there could be.  1811 is the earliest I have. I am hoping the marriage may have been in Marple but of course could have been somewhere else.

They lived in Marple for a while and then moved to Bollington pre 1841 where the family settled until the 1880s. Later descendants  (eg William 1814) married and I believe also buried at Prestbury Parish Church but I don't know about William and Martha themselves.
 

Thanks  :)

Hi

  This one looks as if it could be yours datewise, at Stockport 27/Nov/1809 William Derbyshire husbandman and Martha Richards widow.
There is only one other possible in the area dated 10/July/1803 William a stationer and Martha Rothwell also at Stockport.

Checked all the various spelling of the name Mourice and found this one at Wilmslow dated 11/July/1808 James Morris and Hannah Hatton

nothing certain, but hope it helps

peterbennett


Hi Peter,

A while ago you very helpfully suggested the above marriages for William and Martha Derbyshire.  Well I went to Chester RO last week and looked for their children's baptisms and the first born appears to be in 1810 which fits well with the Martha Richards marriage in 1809.  I found the original for that but it didn't add very much. Nothing else came up so it's looking very likely. 

It says she is a widow and I was wondering if you would be able to check and see if there are any options for her first marriage? Sorry - there's not much to go on I know.   I'm thinking there may have been half siblings to be found which could throw up some more clues.

Thanks

 :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 04 April 07 11:18 BST (UK)
Hi Millymcb

              There are two possible for a first marriages in Cheshire, of ( ..... ? Richards and a Martha .....? )

Benjamin Richards weaver of Bollington and Martha Shaw of Tytherington 22/1/1805 at Prestbury.

Jas Richards Scissors manufacturer and Martha Chew 15/Oct/1792 Stockport.

The 1841 census seems to suggest that Benjamin may still be alive, living alone in Adlington born c1770. He is still around in 1851 in Adlington 78 and a retired farmer born Rugeley Staffordshire.
So maybe you can rule out the Benjamin/Martha marriage.

It is also possible Martha's first marriage could have been in Derbyshire, Marple being quite close to the border.

Good luck

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 04 April 07 11:29 BST (UK)
Hi CHRIS i am looking for the marriage for robert clayton davis & elizabeth barlow first child born 1888-9 son frank davis stockport cheshire.



 gilbert

Hi Gilbert

            Looking in the http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/cheshirebmd/index.html

There is a marriage in Stockport for Elizabeth and a Robert C Davies  1885, sorry but it is only an index so no further information given.
The 1881 census may give you family details, it is free to search online at http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ib/  (Family Search. Com )

good luck, if you need any other help with them please ask.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: millymcb on Wednesday 04 April 07 12:01 BST (UK)
Hi Millymcb

           
Benjamin Richards weaver of Bollington and Martha Shaw of Tytherington 22/1/1805 at Prestbury.

Jas Richards Scissors manufacturer and Martha Chew 15/Oct/1792 Stockport.
 

peterbennett



Thanks for this Peter....
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: PixieAnna on Wednesday 11 April 07 21:59 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

Does the Index you have ever show parents names of brides and/or grooms? I'm trying to trace the parents of Joseph Hankinson b. 1769/70 who married Martha Clark on 3.May 1792 at St Mary's, Bowdon, by license. If the record doesn't show the parents, would you mind having a look for any other Hankinson marriages before 1770 in that area, or Altrincham, as the couples children were christened at Hale and Shaws Lane Presbyterian?
Many thanks,
Pixie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: PixieAnna on Thursday 12 April 07 08:10 BST (UK)
Sorry Chris - should my post have been addressed to you?

Confused Pixie!!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 12 April 07 14:24 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

Does the Index you have ever show parents names of brides and/or grooms? I'm trying to trace the parents of Joseph Hankinson b. 1769/70 who married Martha Clark on 3.May 1792 at St Mary's, Bowdon, by license. If the record doesn't show the parents, would you mind having a look for any other Hankinson marriages before 1770 in that area, or Altrincham, as the couples children were christened at Hale and Shaws Lane Presbyterian?
Many thanks,
Pixie

Hi Pixie.  :)

         It dosen't really matter who you address your message to, there are several members with the resourses to help on this thread.

Unfortunatly the resourse is only an index of the marriages and gives very little information apart from the basic names dates etc, the orginal parish register entry may give a little bit more, but not as a general rule.

Do you have a copy of the licence and or bond from the marriage you mention ? if it servives a copy will be available from the Cheshire RO. The bond document may give you a clue as to parents.

There are two marriages around that time and area.

John Hankinson of Bowden and Susannah Williamson dated 23/January/1753 at Ashton on Mersey St Martins.

John Hankinson and Ann Bate 16/January/1769 at Wilmslow.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: PixieAnna on Thursday 12 April 07 20:27 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, :)

Thank you very much for your reply and the info about the other Hankinson marriages.
The details I gave about Joseph and Martha's marriage were obtained by another genealogist who looked in the Bowdon Parish Register. I do not have a copy of the Bond or License - I didn't realise CRO microfilmed entries were available as copies. I'll try to get one ordered!

Many thanks,
Pixie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 13 April 07 12:48 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, :)

Thank you very much for your reply and the info about the other Hankinson marriages.
The details I gave about Joseph and Martha's marriage were obtained by another genealogist who looked in the Bowdon Parish Register. I do not have a copy of the Bond or License - I didn't realise CRO microfilmed entries were available as copies. I'll try to get one ordered!

Many thanks,
Pixie

Hi Pixie

Let us know how you get on, good luck.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jud444 on Tuesday 17 April 07 18:28 BST (UK)
Hi Chris I am just a beginner and I am searching for members of the Chesworth family in Lower Peover. My family of  Chesworths  lived in Allostock and were  mainly married at St Oswalds Church, Lower Peover. I have found Abraham Chesworth who married Mary Johnson on 13/2/1766, Thomas Chesworth born1739 who married Jane and William Chesworth born 1730 who married Jane born1738.Do your records show any Chesworths from Allostock married at St Oswalds at an earlier date as I am searching for their parents. Any help would be gratefully recieved. jud444
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: PixieAnna on Tuesday 17 April 07 21:47 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

Regarding my earlier query about copies of Licenses held on microfilm at CRO - I e-mailed the Office and had a reply from the Archivist saying that they have located the Hankinson/Clark License, and I can have a copy for the princely sum of £2.95!! A bargain!!

Many thanks for your help Peter,
Best wishes,
Pixie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 18 April 07 10:02 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

Regarding my earlier query about copies of Licenses held on microfilm at CRO - I e-mailed the Office and had a reply from the Archivist saying that they have located the Hankinson/Clark License, and I can have a copy for the princely sum of £2.95!! A bargain!!

Many thanks for your help Peter,
Best wishes,
Pixie

Get two while they are going cheap  :D :D :D

good luck with it

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 18 April 07 10:32 BST (UK)
Hi Chris I am just a beginner and I am searching for members of the Chesworth family in Lower Peover. My family of  Chesworths  lived in Allostock and were  mainly married at St Oswalds Church, Lower Peover. I have found Abraham Chesworth who married Mary Johnson on 13/2/1766, Thomas Chesworth born1739 who married Jane and William Chesworth born 1730 who married Jane born1738.Do your records show any Chesworths from Allostock married at St Oswalds at an earlier date as I am searching for their parents. Any help would be gratefully recieved. jud444

Hi

    Welcome to Rootschat  :)

Apart from the ones you allready have I've detailed the rest below.

2/Feb/1578 Ellin to George Jackson
2/June/1666 Janna to Thomas Chesworth
29/Sept/1711 Steven to Ellen Buckley
9/Jan/1713 Peter to Martha Costin
1/July/1753 William to Elizabeth Baggiley
19/June/1782 Mary to William Royle of Knutsford
22/Jan/1792 James to Nancy Furnivall/Furnifall

hope these help

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: PixieAnna on Friday 27 April 07 21:26 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

With regard to my queries about the Hankinson/Clarke Marriage License on page 61 - I have received it today but it doesn't offer any new clues as to the groom's parents unfortunately. But it has given me a bit more info on the couple - the Bond was sworn by Joseph H and Phillip Clarke, both shown as Farmers, with Martha Clarke shown as a resident of Ashley (near Bowdon). The document is dated 1.5.1792 and the parties swear to pay a bond of £200 if the marriage fails to take place (the couple married on 3.5.1792 at St.Mary, Bowdon).

Do you know whether this was a standard fee? £200 sounds a bit steep to me and I wondered if the Bond might indicate the parties income levels?
Also, I thought Phillip Clarke might be Martha's father. There's one listed in the IGIndex, chr. at Rostherne 23.9.1750, married 1778 at Bowdon, but this date suggests he's unlikely to be her father.
If you have access to any records which might shed some light on these questions, I would be very grateful for lookups if you have the time. If not, any suggestions on how to unravel this tangle would be great!!

Many thanks,
Pixie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hheapet on Monday 30 April 07 16:21 BST (UK)
Hi all,
I am looking for information on the marriage of Robert Wainwright and Martha ???.
He was born Middlewich Cheshire 1781 and on 1841 census was living in Wheelock Cheshire. No other info at present.

Peter
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 30 April 07 19:56 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

The only one I can see is this:

Robt WAINWRIGHT m Martha BARROW 14th June 1802 at Davenham

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hheapet on Monday 30 April 07 22:21 BST (UK)
Thanks Jean, that might link in with the next but 1 generation where Roberts granddaughter married a Barrow. Something to look at anyway.

peter
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: madpants on Monday 30 April 07 22:37 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

Would you have any details on Ashton under Lyne?  It's classed as Cheshire I've discovered.

The marriage of Charles Yeaman and Lucy Lowe on 24/5/1813, are there any details please?

and, is there a marriage for James Siddall to an Alice, around 1812-17 (their first child I can find christened is 1817)

I think both of these would be St Michaels, Ashton

many thanks,
Tessa
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 01 May 07 08:24 BST (UK)
Would you have any details on Ashton under Lyne?  It's classed as Cheshire I've discovered.

The marriage of Charles Yeaman and Lucy Lowe on 24/5/1813, are there any details please?

and, is there a marriage for James Siddall to an Alice, around 1812-17 (their first child I can find christened is 1817)

I think both of these would be St Michaels, Ashton

Hi Tessa,

Ashton under Lyne isn't classed as Cheshire but the Ashton under Lyne registration districts (post 1837) cover parts of Cheshire so these have been covered by the Cheshire BMD project.  The data that we have access to is an index only so won't give any more information than you have already for the marriage of Charles Yeaman although I did check just in case.  I've also checked for the James Siddall marriage, but nothing there I'm afraid.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: madpants on Tuesday 01 May 07 11:39 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thank for taking the time to look, a lot of my ancestors lived on borders of counties, makes looking twice as difficult  :)

Tessa
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mumsie2131 on Tuesday 01 May 07 20:12 BST (UK)
Do You have access to Mottram-in-Longdendale, St Michaels records ?
My gt grandmother Hannah Broadhurst married Sydney(Sidney) Greaves somewhere before 1836 when Elizabeth Greaves was born.  She is from Newton which I know at that time was in Mottram Parish.
Best Regards
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 02 May 07 14:38 BST (UK)
Hi

     Yes the index does cover St Michaels but there is nothing there for them.
     But I did find this record which could be them,

5/April/1835 at St Mary Stockport Sid Greaves of Wernerth and Hann Broad

You don't say where Sidney was born but if there is any Wernerth connection then I would say the Broadhurst name may have been misheard and entered wrongly.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mumsie2131 on Wednesday 02 May 07 15:47 BST (UK)
Yes they lived in Werneth - Sidney/Sydney came from Chadderton and Hannah Newton,  I have the birth certificate of their youngest child so I know the name is correct and I have all their Census details as well as Hannah's death certificate.
Thankyou for your help that could well be them.
Title: Darlington Marriage c.1818
Post by: Lazylover on Wednesday 02 May 07 17:15 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

This is a bit of a long shot but I'm looking for a marriage between

William Darlington and Ann (e)

They had their first child Joseph in 1820 so i'd guess they married about 1818. Joesph was born in Chester.

Sorry I have no further information.

Thanks in advance

Carole



Title: Re: Darlington Marriage c.1818
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 02 May 07 17:32 BST (UK)
This is a bit of a long shot but I'm looking for a marriage between

William Darlington and Ann (e)

They had their first child Joseph in 1820 so i'd guess they married about 1818. Joesph was born in Chester.


Hi Carole,

William DARLINGTON married Ann RADCLIFFE 30 Sep 1817, Chester St Oswald
William DARLINGTON, farmer married Ann NELSON 6 May 1820, Tarporley

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Lazylover on Wednesday 02 May 07 19:36 BST (UK)
Jean

I love you!!!


Thanks so much :)

Carole
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 02 May 07 20:40 BST (UK)
Jean

I love you!!!


Thanks so much :)

Carole

Glad to be of help!  ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pughy on Thursday 10 May 07 17:32 BST (UK)
HI Chris
Does your index Cover Kinnerton/Dodleston Cheshire/Flintshire If so could you look for the marriage of a   William Williams b abt 1806 Kinnerton & Mary ???? b abt 1816 Mold Flintshire
There first Child Thomas Williams was born abt 1835 Kinnerton.
          Thanking You.
                              Regards
                                         Pughy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: flocklet on Friday 11 May 07 01:18 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
Many thanks for your kind offer. I'm clutching at straws here, so forgive! I have a Richard Wenlock HOLTON marrying a Frances FARRAND. He dies in 1803 aged 54,the following year a 2nd daughter dies aged 2, so I feel this is a 2nd marriage for him. So maybe around 1798 - 1806 perhaps? I'm asking as the name FARRAND seems quite prominant in Cheshire. Here's hoping.  :)as I have found absolutely nothing regarding this couple for quite a while.
Thanks again, Stella ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 11 May 07 09:49 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
Many thanks for your kind offer. I'm clutching at straws here, so forgive! I have a Richard Wenlock HOLTON marrying a Frances FARRAND. He dies in 1803 aged 54,the following year a 2nd daughter dies aged 2, so I feel this is a 2nd marriage for him. So maybe around 1798 - 1806 perhaps? I'm asking as the name FARRAND seems quite prominant in Cheshire. Here's hoping.  :)as I have found absolutely nothing regarding this couple for quite a while.
Thanks again, Stella ;D

Hi Stella,

             Sorry nothing at all in the indexes, in fact only one "Farrand" marriage showing up and thats a male.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: flocklet on Friday 11 May 07 10:13 BST (UK)
Peter,
Many thanks for trying them for me,much appreciated.
Back to the drawing board!!
Cheers again, Stella :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 11 May 07 14:30 BST (UK)
HI Chris
Does your index Cover Kinnerton/Dodleston Cheshire/Flintshire If so could you look for the marriage of a   William Williams b abt 1806 Kinnerton & Mary ???? b abt 1816 Mold Flintshire
There first Child Thomas Williams was born abt 1835 Kinnerton.
          Thanking You.
                              Regards
                                         Pughy

Hi Pughy

            Sorry there is nothing that looks right, the index does not cover Flintshire.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pughy on Friday 11 May 07 16:00 BST (UK)
HI Peter
 Thank's for looking
 Regards
Pughy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Friday 11 May 07 21:05 BST (UK)


I’m trying to find the first marriage for Thomas Bowden born c1765, Stockport.
I’ve found two possible entries on the IGI.
The first is in 1787 to Martha and the second one to Peggy Thompson in 1789,both Stockport.
Could you please look at the index to see if there are any more details for either marriage and if it’s not too much trouble see if there are any more Thomas Bowden marriages in Stockport about that time?
Many Thanks,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: TLambe on Sunday 13 May 07 19:14 BST (UK)
I am looking for the marriage/marriages of James Hooton, gardener in the Duckinfield/Ashton-under_Lyne area.
There may be two marriages.
First to Alice c1825 & then c1830 to Ann.

Thanks, Tony Lambe
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 14 May 07 14:27 BST (UK)
I am looking for the marriage/marriages of James Hooton, gardener in the Duckinfield/Ashton-under_Lyne area.
There may be two marriages.
First to Alice c1825 & then c1830 to Ann.

Thanks, Tony Lambe

Hi Tony

         Sorry but nothing in the Cheshire indexes, no James mentioned at all any time.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 14 May 07 14:31 BST (UK)


I’m trying to find the first marriage for Thomas Bowden born c1765, Stockport.
I’ve found two possible entries on the IGI.
The first is in 1787 to Martha and the second one to Peggy Thompson in 1789,both Stockport.
Could you please look at the index to see if there are any more details for either marriage and if it’s not too much trouble see if there are any more Thomas Bowden marriages in Stockport about that time?
Many Thanks,
Pat.


Hi Pat

        Cannot find a mention of the 1787 marriage to a Martha, but the one to Peggy in 1789 is indexed and the only other info is that he was a weaver.

        2 other Thomas Bowden marriages in 1780 but this seems a bit early for your chap.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Monday 14 May 07 22:29 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
Many thanks for the look-up; it’s very much appreciated.
Thomas’s occupation was weaver when he married for the second time, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed that this is the one.
Once again many thanks,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dibley on Monday 14 May 07 22:37 BST (UK)
Dear Chris,
I am researching HOLTBY family and wondering whether there are records of a marriage of James Holtby to Margaret Hollerin in the 1820's, probably Stockport?  Many thanks,
Lynne :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 15 May 07 13:04 BST (UK)
Dear Chris,
I am researching HOLTBY family and wondering whether there are records of a marriage of James Holtby to Margaret Hollerin in the 1820's, probably Stockport?  Many thanks,
Lynne :)

Hi Lynne  :)

                Welcome to Rootschat  :)

Sorry to say that there are no Holtby marriages indexed in the Stockport are prior to 1837.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: madpants on Tuesday 15 May 07 13:47 BST (UK)
Hello,

Would you have any record of,  Richard WARREN marrying a Mary around 1825 (eldest at home is 15 in 1841) in Macclesfield Forest.

Many thanks
Tessa
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 15 May 07 15:24 BST (UK)
Hello,

Would you have any record of,  Richard WARREN marrying a Mary around 1825 (eldest at home is 15 in 1841) in Macclesfield Forest.

Many thanks
Tessa

Hi Tessa

            The marriage was at St Peters Prestbury 1/Nov/1817 Rich Warren lab. Mary Pickford spinster both of Macclesfield Forest.
Looks as if they may have had children earlier than 1825 ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: madpants on Tuesday 15 May 07 16:31 BST (UK)
Thanks Peter,

Yes they probably had older children, he is 50-54 on the 1841 census and she is 40-44 (or lying!) the eldest child is 15 but at the bottom of their family list is Septimus Warren 35 who I presume is Richard's younger brother.  :-\
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: harewoodhouse on Wednesday 16 May 07 05:50 BST (UK)
 :D Hi there,
you wouldnt have any harrops or cookes on your records would you, the harrops came from around bollington and the cookes near altrincham dunham massey the story goes that there is a connection between the cookes and the greys of dunham massey, you know the wrong side of the sheets type of thing and I would love to find out if the story is true, many thanks...sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 16 May 07 12:34 BST (UK)
Hi Sue  :)

      Welcome to Rootschat  :)

     There is only one marriage between a Cooke and an Harrop anywhere in the Cheshire indexes

Nathaniel Harrop/Alice Cooke 14/8/1805 at Prestbury

There does not seem to be any Grey/Gray marriages to either Harrop or Cook.

Not a lot of help I know, problem is there may have been a relationship between the families but if its not a marriage or a birth it won't be registed anywhere to prove or disprove.

Anyway they didn't do things like in Cheshire did they  ;D ;D

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: harewoodhouse on Wednesday 16 May 07 23:56 BST (UK)
Thank you for that, no what is supposed to of happened is the  servant girl being had by the lord and married off and the child provided for...my mother was sure it was the 7th earl, and although he was a rouge and had strange taste in women I don't think it was him, I thought it was the harry Grey who became the 8th earl...before he was sent away to south Africa by bringing shame on his family by being a drunk and a wasterall...that would of made it a Sarah Jane jackson who worked as a servant for them and Alfred Cooke who she was married off too and even though they had 12 children I might add I can find no record of them ever being married and for some strange reason all 11 kids were baptized but the first one George w...never was, but I have come across a book that puts the Cooke's working for the earls of Stamford back when the 5th earl was alive and that George Cooke died and left a lot of money back to the Grey family..the author of the book implied he might of stolen it but why would you leave money to the family you stole from...no looking at the bit of will she has in the book I think he was the Cooke born out of wedlock and taken on as steward..the money he left would of been to his half brothers etc...so the story seems to be a lot older then I had first thought.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bh1 on Thursday 17 May 07 14:16 BST (UK)
I am trying to find details for 2 marriages if possible.

The first is William Shore in malpas abt 1806.  I believe the spouse to be Hannah Dunn and she may be from Staffordhire.

The second is Joseph Shore.  He was born around 1750 in the Malpas area.  I'm not sure of his spouse, but it may be Margaret Dickins.

Any information gratefully received.

Thanks Barbara

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 17 May 07 14:46 BST (UK)
I am trying to find details for 2 marriages if possible.

The first is William Shore in malpas abt 1806.  I believe the spouse to be Hannah Dunn and she may be from Staffordhire.

The second is Joseph Shore.  He was born around 1750 in the Malpas area.  I'm not sure of his spouse, but it may be Margaret Dickins.

Any information gratefully received.

Thanks Barbara



Hi Barbara  :)

      There is a marriage at St Oswalds Malpas dated 24/Feb/1806 for William and Hannah Dunn.

     Sorry but can't find anything in Cheshire for a Joseph around that timeframe (1765-1800)

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bh1 on Thursday 17 May 07 15:40 BST (UK)
Thanks for the quick reply Peter.

I don't suppose you would check one more for me please.

It is for Joseph Platt who married a Mary.  He was from Faddiley born abt 1805/6, but I think Mary was form Bronington in Flintshire.  The marriage would have been between about 1822-1832 but I don't know whether it was in flintshire or Cheshire.

Thanks very much.

Barbara
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 20 May 07 13:33 BST (UK)
Thanks for the quick reply Peter.

I don't suppose you would check one more for me please.

It is for Joseph Platt who married a Mary.  He was from Faddiley born abt 1805/6, but I think Mary was form Bronington in Flintshire.  The marriage would have been between about 1822-1832 but I don't know whether it was in flintshire or Cheshire.

Thanks very much.

Barbara

Hi

   The only marriage in Cheshire in the right time frame was dated 27/March/1828 at Witton Joseph Platt (farmer) Mary Platt, it was by licence.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Sunday 27 May 07 17:19 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

I'm looking for a marriage between Thomas Holt & Sophia ?

My 3xGgrandfather Charles Holt [their son] was baptised at Bramhall in 1814 but I can't find any siblings or a marriage on either IGI or BIVRI, so I am firmly at a brick wall.

Marriage may be any time between 1780 & 1814 I guess  :-\

Many thanks for anything you can find

SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: tess4207 on Monday 28 May 07 07:32 BST (UK)
 I am looking for the marrriage of Adam Nichol to Jane Shiells around 1845in Cheshire.
Thanks Tess
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 28 May 07 11:09 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

I'm looking for a marriage between Thomas Holt & Sophia ?

My 3xGgrandfather Charles Holt [their son] was baptised at Bramhall in 1814 but I can't find any siblings or a marriage on either IGI or BIVRI, so I am firmly at a brick wall.

Marriage may be any time between 1780 & 1814 I guess  :-\

Many thanks for anything you can find

SandraC

Hi Sandra

            There isn't a marriage at all in the area between a James and Sophia that would fit in that time frame, but there is one dated 18/June/1837 James to a Sophia Taylor at Stockport, could be he was married previously ? What did he do for a living ? I will check the other James Holt marriages in Stockport area.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 28 May 07 11:21 BST (UK)
I am looking for the marrriage of Adam Nichol to Jane Shiells around 1845in Cheshire.
Thanks Tess

Hi Tess

          Sorry can't seem to be able to find anything in Cheshire at all, do you know where they were born ? or had children ? if they married in or around 1845 you should be able to find them in the GRO indexes, free to search at http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8965&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0

Good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Monday 28 May 07 12:36 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

When 3xGgrandfather Charles Holt married in Cheadle in September 1837, he gave his father as Thomas Holt, weaver.

BIVRI has an entry for a baptism for Charles Holt son of Thomas & Sophia at Bramhall on 12/6/1814.

This is all I can find.  Charles names his daughter Sophia too.

Thanks for your help

SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pughy on Tuesday 29 May 07 10:26 BST (UK)
HI Peter
Could you please look for marriages for the following all their children were Born/Baptized in Christleton.

Thomas Nield who's first born was William Baptized 30/4/1775

Joseph Nield who's first born was Ann Baptized 28/12/1783

John Nield who's first born was Elizabeth Baptized 3/5/1772 

Here's Hoping Kind Regards
                        Pughy

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 29 May 07 10:57 BST (UK)
HI Peter
Could you please look for marriages for the following all their children were Born/Baptized in Christleton.

Thomas Nield who's first born was William Baptized 30/4/1775

Joseph Nield who's first born was Ann Baptized 28/12/1783

John Nield who's first born was Elizabeth Baptized 3/5/1772 

Here's Hoping Kind Regards
                        Pughy



Hi

     Can only find 1 possible, dated 22/April/1774 Thomas to Ann Platt at St Andrews Tarvin.

      There dosn't seem to be any Nield marriages at Christleton before c1820.

Sorry

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 29 May 07 11:10 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

When 3xGgrandfather Charles Holt married in Cheadle in September 1837, he gave his father as Thomas Holt, weaver.

BIVRI has an entry for a baptism for Charles Holt son of Thomas & Sophia at Bramhall on 12/6/1814.

This is all I can find.  Charles names his daughter Sophia too.

Thanks for your help

SandraC

Hi Sandra

              A bit embarrassed here, for some unknown reason in my first search I looked for a James and Sophia when your request quite plainly states Thomes, must be old age creeping on  :-[

Anyway here is the entry for Thomas (weaver) and Sophia Wood at Stockport dated 24/Dec/1805.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Tuesday 29 May 07 11:30 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

No worries - we all have senior moments  ;D

Great news - another name to add to the list.

Also, Pughy, if the Neild / Platt marriage turns out to be legit, I may want to speak to you as all my Platt family start in Tarvin / Barrow.

Regards
SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mumsie2131 on Thursday 07 June 07 18:50 BST (UK)
I have a John Ridgway born either Bredbury or Romiley c1807 married a Martha ??????? (from Denton) before(ish) 1829 which was the birth of their first child.  I have a feeling Phillimore doesn't coves North East Cheshire but thought it worth an ask.
By the way I'm just 'up the road' from you in Henfield.
Dot
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 08 June 07 13:13 BST (UK)
I have a John Ridgway born either Bredbury or Romiley c1807 married a Martha ??????? (from Denton) before(ish) 1829 which was the birth of their first child.  I have a feeling Phillimore doesn't coves North East Cheshire but thought it worth an ask.
By the way I'm just 'up the road' from you in Henfield.
Dot


Hi Dot

         There is a marriage dated 17/June/1827 at Cheadle St Mary for a John Ridgway and a Martha Ashworth.

         No other marriages that may fit the bill are indexed in the area at that that time.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: gillbill on Friday 08 June 07 23:14 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Any chance of finding my "brick wall" Marriage --John Holt married Ann? The only son I've found was

George baptised at St Bartholomews, Wilmslow--1806. They were described on his baptism as of

Handforth. I have no other info

Thanks

gillbill
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 09 June 07 13:57 BST (UK)
Hi

     The only marriage in the index that may be right is one at Knutsford dated 26/December/1802 John Holt and Hannah Bailey.
No occupation mentioned at all.

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bjh1225 on Tuesday 26 June 07 04:12 BST (UK)
Chris,  I would truly appreciate your looking for Booth marriages in the Grappenhall and Thelwall areas of Cheshire.   Mostly the names of the men were John and Thomas.

Thank you so very much for your valuable time and effort.

Regards,  Bettye  in California USA
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: N.Z girl on Tuesday 26 June 07 09:28 BST (UK)
Hi,

I'm trying to trace the marriage of Daniel Cliff b. 1799 of Macclesfield to Sophia(Sofia) who was born in Wilmslow.   I haven't found her maiden name as yet.  The marriage may have taken place around 1830.

I've found the details of Daniel's parents marriage (or at least I hope so!)
Daniel Cliff (Snr) to Sarah Wilshaw, April 22 1794 in Macclesfield and  also other  Cliff's  around this time.

I found a marriage for Thomas Cliff to Lidia Trueman - January 5 1736 - but I don't know if he is connected to them.  It's a long shot but Thomas is a family name. 

Any information or advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Sarah

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 26 June 07 17:42 BST (UK)
I'm trying to trace the marriage of Daniel Cliff b. 1799 of Macclesfield to Sophia(Sofia) who was born in Wilmslow.   I haven't found her maiden name as yet.  The marriage may have taken place around 1830.

Hi Sarah,

The closest I can see is this:

Dan CLIFF, dyer married Sophia HOOLEY 30th May 1825 at Astbury

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 26 June 07 17:46 BST (UK)
I would truly appreciate your looking for Booth marriages in the Grappenhall and Thelwall areas of Cheshire.   Mostly the names of the men were John and Thomas.

Hi Bettye,

There are 44 pages of BOOTHs on my disk (35 to a page) and I can't search for a specific area.  Can you be more specific about individuals and dates and I'm sure we will be able to help.

Thanks
Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bjh1225 on Tuesday 26 June 07 18:18 BST (UK)
Jean,   I am looking for marriages for the following Booth men.  They probably resided in  the Grappenhall and Thelwall areas of Cheshire.   My guess is that they would have married when they were about 21 yrs of age thus I would add that to their birth years and go forward about another 10 yrs.

Thomas Booth bc 1724

John Booth bc  1749

Thomas Booth bc 1789 in Grappenhall.   He married Mary __.

I sincerely thank you for your response.

Regards,  Bettye
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 26 June 07 19:14 BST (UK)
Jean,   I am looking for marriages for the following Booth men.  They probably resided in  the Grappenhall and Thelwall areas of Cheshire.   My guess is that they would have married when they were about 21 yrs of age thus I would add that to their birth years and go forward about another 10 yrs.

Hi Bettye,

I've had a look but can't see anything very obvious.  There are only a couple at Grappenhall and they don't fit with your names and dates.  I've had a look for a couple of other things so I'll post on your other thread.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bjh1225 on Tuesday 26 June 07 19:43 BST (UK)
Jean,  I appreciate that you took the time to look.

Regards,  Bettye
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: N.Z girl on Wednesday 27 June 07 06:56 BST (UK)
Hi Sarah,

The closest I can see is this:

Dan CLIFF, dyer married Sophia HOOLEY 30th May 1825 at Astbury

Hope this helps,

Jean  

Hi Jean,

Many Thanks for your reply.  Daniel was a dyer, like his father.   Sounds like it may well be our people.  No wonder I couldn't find them in their home parishes!

Sarah
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: indulgence on Sunday 01 July 07 23:05 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

I have a few requests if you don't mind
All information available on the following marriages:

1st marriage, Peter Stubbs, married Mary Pedley on 27/12/1770

2nd marriage, Peter Stubbs, Married Mary Hassellhurst 1784

Peter Stubbs, married Mary Hatton 1820 Church Minshul

John Welsby, married Betty Hart 6/10/1806 St Wilfreds Grappenhall

Please help
lisa
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 02 July 07 10:44 BST (UK)
Hi Lisa  :)

          Don't think I can add a lot to what you already have, just a few bits and pieces. The marriage indexes are only indexes therefore not much more than names and dates.

         If you want a full copies of the parish register entries or licences these can be obtained quite easily from the Cheshire RO. By emailing the full details to the address in this link.

http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.tm

Peter Stubbs 1770 occupation farmer married by licence
Peter Stubbs 1784 occupation yeoman married after banns
Peter Stubbs 1820 of Nantwich married after banns

Nothing additional for the Welsby marriage.

Hope this helps

peterbennett



Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: indulgence on Monday 02 July 07 23:58 BST (UK)
Chris
 thank you for such a quick reply,  and for you time while looking
lisa
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cherylg on Wednesday 04 July 07 12:52 BST (UK)
Hi chris

I am trying to locate the marriage of John Foden to Sarah? in the Congleton area.

My Grandfather x 3 Henry Foden, their son,was born 1825 but I am sure there were probably other children.

John was a Butcher.

Here's hoping

Cheryl

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 04 July 07 16:20 BST (UK)
Hi Cheryl

            There is a marriage at Goostry dated 25/May/1835 for a Sarah Potts and John Foden butcher.

Also there are several marriages in the area for John Foden butcher prior to 1816.

Do you have your John and Sarah + Henry together in any census at all, where was Henry born ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cherylg on Thursday 05 July 07 13:05 BST (UK)
Hi Peter


Henry was born in 1825, I have him down as born Congleton but I am not sure whether that is correct.

I have found a John Foden born1776 on the 1841 Census listed as living in a place called Blackden (Congleton), with wife Sarah and another son called James who is also a Butcher.The birth date of 1776 ties in with the info I have been given by my Cousin.
Henry married a Mary Harvey (a widow) in 1848 at Astbury Church, John is listed as deceased on the Marriage certificate.
I cannot find another John Fode listed as a Butcher on the 1841 Census.

Hope that helps a bit

Thanks for your help

Regards
Cheryl
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cilvrnum on Thursday 05 July 07 14:40 BST (UK)
KIRKPATRICK

Would it be very cheeky to ask for all that are listed under the name KIRKPATRICK please?  [if its not too big an undertaking of course]
The family I am searching, although some lived in Lancashire, I know there was a presence in Cheshire.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 05 July 07 17:13 BST (UK)
Hi Peter


Henry was born in 1825, I have him down as born Congleton but I am not sure whether that is correct.

I have found a John Foden born1776 on the 1841 Census listed as living in a place called Blackden (Congleton), with wife Sarah and another son called James who is also a Butcher.The birth date of 1776 ties in with the info I have been given by my Cousin.
Henry married a Mary Harvey (a widow) in 1848 at Astbury Church, John is listed as deceased on the Marriage certificate.
I cannot find another John Fode listed as a Butcher on the 1841 Census.

Hope that helps a bit

Thanks for your help

Regards
Cheryl

Hi Cheryl

             Here is a list of John Fodens butchers marrying, it looks as if the 1841 census (John 65 and Sarah 60) may be a late marriage.

John Foden butcher of Siddington and Phebe Harrop 6/Oct/1770 Prestbury licence

John Foden butch Lower Withington and Mary Bartington 31/Dec/1776 Prestbury

John Foden but Lower With and Mary Gateley minor of Macc 8/Mar/1797 Prestbury licence

John Foden butcher widr and Phebe Barker 31/Dec/1810 Astbury

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 05 July 07 17:35 BST (UK)
KIRKPATRICK

Would it be very cheeky to ask for all that are listed under the name KIRKPATRICK please?  [if its not too big an undertaking of course]
The family I am searching, although some lived in Lancashire, I know there was a presence in Cheshire.

Hi

    I have listed all those I can find, it may not be a complete one, as the index only goes to 1830 in certain areas.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cilvrnum on Thursday 05 July 07 18:08 BST (UK)
KIRKPATRICK

Hi

    I have listed all those I can find, it may not be a complete one, as the index only goes to 1830 in certain areas.

peterbennett

That's terrific!  Thank you for doing this.  Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: yazzie on Saturday 07 July 07 12:15 BST (UK)
Hi There,
        Would you have anything on a John jones who married a Martha Dodd in Bunbury About 1810
                         Thanks
                            Yazzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cilvrnum on Saturday 07 July 07 12:56 BST (UK)
Sorry.  My post related solely to KIRKPATRICK.  Perhaps you meant to post to the list as a whole.  Good luck in your research.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 07 July 07 15:09 BST (UK)
Hi There,
        Would you have anything on a John jones who married a Martha Dodd in Bunbury About 1810
                         Thanks
                            Yazzie

Hi Yazzie

          Not a lot of info on the marriage, except it seems it may have been difficult to read in the register as it indexed twice, with differant dates and names.

21/March/1810  Mary Dod
21/May/1810  Martha Dod

St Boniface Bunbury after banns

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: yazzie on Sunday 08 July 07 00:54 BST (UK)
Hi There,     
            Thank you for that I am quite new to this,Would you have any on  William Jones who married Jane Walley in Beeston,All these reles seemed to have worked at Pecforton Castle and I cant find any records of the castle
                          Regards
                            Glenys
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 08 July 07 10:40 BST (UK)
Hi Glenys,

Try here for Peckforton Castle:

http://www.touruk.co.uk/houses/house-cheshire-peckforton-castle.htm

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 08 July 07 11:33 BST (UK)
Hi There,     
            Thank you for that I am quite new to this,Would you have any on  William Jones who married Jane Walley in Beeston,All these reles seemed to have worked at Pecforton Castle and I cant find any records of the castle
                          Regards
                            Glenys

Hi

    Do you have an idea of date for the above marriage, can't seem to find a marriage at all for them, anywhere.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: yazzie on Sunday 08 July 07 12:02 BST (UK)
I have found a marriage record William Jones Jane Walley 1852 Bunbury St Boniface
                 Yazzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 09 July 07 13:02 BST (UK)
I have found a marriage record William Jones Jane Walley 1852 Bunbury St Boniface
                 Yazzie

Hi Yazzie  :)

             The indexes you have asked for a search in are for pre 1837 (Civil Registration ) only, sorry but don't have any info after that date. It would probably be best to obtain the copy of the marriage certificate.

peterbennett  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: yazzie on Monday 09 July 07 13:09 BST (UK)
thanks for that anyway
 yazzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: junev on Monday 09 July 07 17:01 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

I have 2 marriages I would love some help with

James Dale (b~1805) m. Sarah?  ~1826 (first child ~1827) Leftwich area - her maiden name may be Jackson as one child had this as a middle name.

Samuel Harrison  (b~1796) m. Elizabeth ~1820 (first child ~1821) Northwich area - last child of 8 was called Henshaw so possibly a maiden name again.

many thanks,

June
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 09 July 07 17:52 BST (UK)
James Dale (b~1805) m. Sarah?  ~1826 (first child ~1827) Leftwich area - her maiden name may be Jackson as one child had this as a middle name.

Hi June,

Nothing jumps out as obvious:
James DALE, weaver m Sarah HILLARD 23 Sep 1811 at Stockport
Jas DALE, widower, farmer m Sarah GLOVER 27 Feb 1820 at Astbury
Jas DALE, schoolmaster, m Sarah BARNETT 5 May 1824 Astbury

Also
James DALE, servant m Mary JACKSON 28 Mar 1811 Nantwich by licence

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 09 July 07 17:58 BST (UK)
Samuel Harrison  (b~1796) m. Elizabeth ~1820 (first child ~1821) Northwich area - last child of 8 was called Henshaw so possibly a maiden name again.

Hi June,

Sam. HARRISON, boatman m Eliz. DAVIES. Sp. 31 Aug 1818 Sandbach
Saml. HARRISON, bach m Betty CARTER, Sp. 27 Dec 1818 Great Budworth
Samuel HARRISON, bach m Betty WILLIAMSON, Sp. 28 Dec 1820 Great Budworth

Again, nothing obvious I'm afraid.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: junev on Monday 09 July 07 19:17 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Samuel Harrison & Elizabeth Davies looks very good as in 1841 he was a flatman. I can look at Elaizabeth Davies' now and see if there was a connection with a Henshaw.

Forgive me I have just realised I gave the wrong information  - James Dale also married an Elizabeth   - Sarah Jackson Dale was their daughter...... I seem to have brain fade (all too often!!). James was a farmer.

please, please forgive....

June
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 09 July 07 19:31 BST (UK)
please, please forgive....

Forgiven!  ;D

However, I can't see a James DALE - Elizabeth marriage that fits at all!

Jas DALE m Eliz BROADHURST 24 Apr 1828 at Cheadle
Jas DALE, cotton spinner m Betty JONES, sp 12 Jun 1824 at Prestbury (both of Macclesfield)

The only other one is in 1773!  There is this just out of interest:

James DALE, farmer m Mary HARRISON, sp 18 Jun 1804 Astbury by licence.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: L on Monday 09 July 07 20:34 BST (UK)
Hi,

Would it be possible please, to see if there is a marriage between a George Hook and an Ann Gar(di)ner in the Chester area probably in 1832/3. Their first child , George, was born circa 1833.

Many thanks,
Lesley
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 09 July 07 22:14 BST (UK)
Would it be possible please, to see if there is a marriage between a George Hook and an Ann Gar(di)ner in the Chester area probably in 1832/3. Their first child , George, was born circa 1833.

Hi Lesley,

I've checked both my marriage indexes for GAR[D]NER and HOOK but no luck.  In fact there are virtually no HOOK marriages at all.  Chester doesn't look to be very well covered although it is difficult to tell at a glance.  It might be worth keeping an eye on http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ - things are very slow moving but there has been an update recently although no additions.  If you look at progress a couple of Chester parishes are nearly ready for upload, but don't hold your breath...last one was quite a long time ago now!

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: L on Monday 09 July 07 22:19 BST (UK)
Many thanks for looking Jean. My Hooks originate in Sussex, but I have found no marriage there, and as Ann was from Chester, thought it was worth a try! I will keep checking for updates until I am able to get a look at the registers.

Lesley

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cherylg on Tuesday 10 July 07 09:53 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Thankyou very much for the John Foden marriage information.

I think the only way to be sure is to see if anybody has any birth records for 1825, and try and find Henry Foden's birth in 1825.


Thankyou again

Cheryl
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bjh1225 on Thursday 19 July 07 04:00 BST (UK)
Chris,  would you please check your Cheshire Parish Records Marriage book for the following two names ?
Thomas BOOTH  m.  Mary __   probably in Grappenhall (or Warrington).    He was born there in 1784 so I suspect he would have married between the years of 1804 and 1812.

Thomas' father was John Booth b 1749 in Ince (near Thornton le moor).   Wife's name is unknown.   He would have probably married between  1770 and 1780.   

Thank you for your kindness,   Bettye
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 19 July 07 11:18 BST (UK)
Chris,  would you please check your Cheshire Parish Records Marriage book for the following two names ?
Thomas BOOTH  m.  Mary __   probably in Grappenhall (or Warrington).    He was born there in 1784 so I suspect he would have married between the years of 1804 and 1812.

Thomas' father was John Booth b 1749 in Ince (near Thornton le moor).   Wife's name is unknown.   He would have probably married between  1770 and 1780.   

Thank you for your kindness,   Bettye

Hi Bettye

              Unfortunatly the Cheshire marriage indexes do not as a rule have the Warrington churches records, these are generally regarded as being "Lancashire" here is a link that shows the various churches and which records are kept where.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Warrington/#ChurchRecords

Found nothing for a Thomas at all, but did find a couple of other Booth marriages that may be of interest to you, if not at the moment then they may/maynot be useful further into your research.

26/March/1733 at Thornton-le-Moors St Mary John Booth and Elizabeth Hyde (banns)

9/September/1781 John Booth and Ann Jackson at St Wilfreds Grappenhall (banns)

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: celia on Thursday 19 July 07 16:36 BST (UK)
bjh1225

I.G.I. 1797-1818 has a source


There is a Thomas Booth Married Mary Blase 14th March 1809 Warrington In Lancashire. No place/church of marriage given.

Celia
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pepsi62 on Thursday 19 July 07 19:15 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
I am looking for a marriage of William Davies between 1816 and 1823, almost certainly in Nantwich.

Wife possibly Ellen and his occupation probably in the shoemaking trade.

Thanks in anticipation
Peter
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 19 July 07 19:18 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

The Nantwich parish records are online here:

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: fairlane on Monday 30 July 07 21:34 BST (UK)
Could you please look for a marriage in the Bunbury/Marbury area for Mary Badcock and ?? Edwards between 1820 and 1840. In 1841 as Mary Edwards she married Samuel Powell and I am trying to find out if she is the widow of John Edwards.

Many thanks,
Fairlane
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 31 July 07 12:10 BST (UK)
Could you please look for a marriage in the Bunbury/Marbury area for Mary Badcock and ?? Edwards between 1820 and 1840. In 1841 as Mary Edwards she married Samuel Powell and I am trying to find out if she is the widow of John Edwards.

Many thanks,
Fairlane

Hi

    Sorry but there is nothing in the indexes for the possible marriage. If she was a widow the marriage certificate of 1841 will probably have her maiden name as well as previous married name.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: fairlane on Tuesday 31 July 07 18:48 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Thanks for looking. The 1841 marriage has her as Mary Edwards - father Thomas Badcock. I tried a few months ago for a marriage of John Edwards to a Mary and nothing came up - the search goes on.. and on... and on!

Fairlane
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jax49 on Friday 03 August 07 19:54 BST (UK)
Hi,

I would love to have help to find the marriage between THOMAS DALE AND ANN ?? probably in CONGLETON all their 10 children were born in Congleton the first in 1828. If it helps Thomas was a wood turner/joiner.

Many thanks.

Jax
Title: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Raylen on Saturday 04 August 07 12:59 BST (UK)
Hello to you all. :)

Looking for help with a marriage between Richard Jones and Martha Later/Sater about 1822 in Cheshire.
Richard Jones occupation was accountant/gold broker.
Sorry I don't have any more information than that on the marriage. 

I believe their was a son from the marriage - Henry Jones born abt 1829.

Can anyone confirm the marriage details and see if there are  anymore children from the marriage please.

Appreciate any help or advice,
Raylen
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 04 August 07 15:37 BST (UK)
Hi,

I would love to have help to find the marriage between THOMAS DALE AND ANN ?? probably in CONGLETON all their 10 children were born in Congleton the first in 1828. If it helps Thomas was a wood turner/joiner.

Many thanks.

Jax

Hi Jax

         The nearest marriage I can find prior to 1828 is dated 17/August/1824 at St Mary Astbury to a Hannah Shrigley, the only problem is it states Thomas as being a widower.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 04 August 07 15:57 BST (UK)
Hello to you all. :)

Looking for help with a marriage between Richard Jones and Martha Later/Sater about 1822 in Cheshire.
Richard Jones occupation was accountant/gold broker.
Sorry I don't have any more information than that on the marriage. 

I believe their was a son from the marriage - Henry Jones born abt 1829.

Can anyone confirm the marriage details and see if there are  anymore children from the marriage please.

Appreciate any help or advice,
Raylen

Hi

      The marriage is dated 30/December/1822 at Bowden St Mary Martha Later to Richard Jones of Liverpool by banns.

Sorry can't help with the children. Suggest you post again in the Cheshire Lookup request, that is if Henry was born in Cheshire ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Raylen on Sunday 05 August 07 23:52 BST (UK)
Thank you Peter for the information.
Very helpful indeed  :)

Raylen
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterjd on Sunday 12 August 07 17:03 BST (UK)
hi Chris any chance of you looking for a marriage of William bracegirdle and Elizabeth Vernon Davenham 18/3/1822 any info would be appreciated cheers Pete
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kelly on Monday 13 August 07 08:03 BST (UK)
Hoping you can help me please. 

Having, after several years of searching, just found the marriage of my 3 x great grandparents in Chester, I now know the surname of my ggg grandmother!

She was Elizabeth PARRY born Chester c.1788. 

I am hoping to find her baptism record.  She was married to Wiliam CRANE at St. Mary on the Hill on 1811.  All the census records I have for her give a year of birth at 1788 + or - 1 year.

Any help gratefully appreciated
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 13 August 07 11:49 BST (UK)
Hoping you can help me please. 

Having, after several years of searching, just found the marriage of my 3 x great grandparents in Chester, I now know the surname of my ggg grandmother!

She was Elizabeth PARRY born Chester c.1788. 

I am hoping to find her baptism record.  She was married to Wiliam CRANE at St. Mary on the Hill on 1811.  All the census records I have for her give a year of birth at 1788 + or - 1 year.

Any help gratefully appreciated

Hi

      There are quite a few Elizabeth Parry baptisms indexed in the http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

The nearest date wise is this one BAPTISM 15/Feb/1786 at St John Chester, mother Frances father Francis (a baker) actual birthdate 11/Jan/1786.

Hope this helps a little

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 13 August 07 11:57 BST (UK)
hi Chris any chance of you looking for a marriage of William bracegirdle and Elizabeth Vernon Davenham 18/3/1822 any info would be appreciated cheers Pete

Hi Pete

             Only have the indexes which only give the same info as you have, it seems that William had an initial "E"

You can apply to the http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.tm

For a copy of the register entry, this may or may not give you more information.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kelly on Monday 13 August 07 13:17 BST (UK)
Peter

Thanks very much for your help
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterjd on Monday 13 August 07 16:47 BST (UK)
thanks pete
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 14 August 07 16:06 BST (UK)
hi Chris any chance of you looking for a marriage of William bracegirdle and Elizabeth Vernon Davenham 18/3/1822 any info would be appreciated cheers Pete

Hi Pete

             Only have the indexes which only give the same info as you have, it seems that William had an initial "E"

You can apply to the http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.tm

For a copy of the register entry, this may or may not give you more information.

peterbennett

Hi Peter and Peter!

The Davenham parish records are now online at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ which will give you a full transcription of the original entry.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterjd on Tuesday 14 August 07 18:34 BST (UK)
THANKS JDGEN JUST COST ME £2.50 5 MINS AGO SITE WILL COME IN HANDY THOUGH THANKS AGAIN
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: MEN on Monday 20 August 07 19:09 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

I am looking for the marriage of Henry Kelsall. He married his second wife Mary between 1812 and 1815. The area I am looking for is probably Altrincham, although I am not certain. Henry was from Agden and was buried in the churchyard of Rostherne which would I think come under the district of Altrincham.

Sorry I am unable to give more details.

Maureen
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 21 August 07 11:10 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

I am looking for the marriage of Henry Kelsall. He married his second wife Mary between 1812 and 1815. The area I am looking for is probably Altrincham, although I am not certain. Henry was from Agden and was buried in the churchyard of Rostherne which would I think come under the district of Altrincham.

Sorry I am unable to give more details.

Maureen

Hi Moureen

               Sorry can't seem to find anything anywhere in Cheshire within or near that timeframe.

Looking at the 1841 census there is a Mary Kelsall (no Henry) living at Agden with several children born 1813 upwards. Are these yours ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: MEN on Tuesday 21 August 07 14:51 BST (UK)
I seem to have got my Chris and Peter missed up - sorry about that Peter!

The 1841 details showing Mary Kelsall as a widow are the correct family but I don't have much information to work on. Jonathan Kelsall was the son of Mary and Henry but was not living with the family in 1841.

I know Henry was the father of Jonathan, but I don't know the maiden name of his mother Mary or where she was from so I'm clutching at straws here!

I wonder if you would be kind enough to check one more of the clan - John Kelsall who married Charlotte  around 1837. Both John and Charlotte were born in Sale and both buried at Timperley, so the parish of marriage is possibly Sale. I'm afraid that I do not know the maiden name of Charlotte.

Many thanks for your help so far. I do appreciate it.

Regards,

Maureen
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Tuesday 21 August 07 16:30 BST (UK)
I seem to have got my Chris and Peter missed up - sorry about that Peter!

The 1841 details showing Mary Kelsall as a widow are the correct family but I don't have much information to work on. Jonathan Kelsall was the son of Mary and Henry but was not living with the family in 1841.

I know Henry was the father of Jonathan, but I don't know the maiden name of his mother Mary or where she was from so I'm clutching at straws here!

I wonder if you would be kind enough to check one more of the clan - John Kelsall who married Charlotte  around 1837. Both John and Charlotte were born in Sale and both buried at Timperley, so the parish of marriage is possibly Sale. I'm afraid that I do not know the maiden name of Charlotte.

Many thanks for your help so far. I do appreciate it.

Regards,

Maureen

Hi Moureen

               The main reason I asked about that particular Mary Kelsall and family is that I did a search of "Kelsall + variations in the marriage index) and found at St Mary Lymm a marriage dated 9/Feb/1813 between a Henry Kelshaw and Mary Bell. This looked to me as if it may be mistranscription or the registrar misheard the name. I searched through the 1841 and could find no match for the Kelshaw's or other Kelshaws in the area. But did spot the Mary Kelsall and family, I believe this could your Henry and Mary. Having then spotted a death for Henry Kelsall in Lymm 1837 it again adds to the suspicion that Henry Kelshaw was in fact Henry Kelsall.

Agden as you proberbly know is next to the township of Lymm
 http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/agden1.html

John Kelsall married a Charlotte Goodier at Manchester Cathedral 4/Nov/1835, it was not unusual to find Cheshire folk marrying there especially if it needed to be a arranged quickly or a cheap midweek one.
4/Nov/1835 was a wednesday.  Found the marriage in
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/

hope this helps

peterbennett


Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Lydart on Tuesday 21 August 07 16:50 BST (UK)
Totally irrelevant ... but having just spotted this thread, could it be the longest running one on RootsChat ?

(Now to check up on Cheshire ancestors to see if I can use you !)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: MEN on Tuesday 21 August 07 19:52 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,

Thank you for all the information you sent.

Henry Kelsall/Kelshaw's marriage at Lymm looks a distinct possibility.

I found John and Charlotte Kelsall's marriage on 'Family Search' and it gave the marriage date as about 1837 - didn't think of looking further! I'm not sure whether this family is a direct link with Henry so will have to do further research on that one.Interesting that you could get a cheap midweek marriage at the Cathedral  - Wow!

Again very many thanks for all your help Peter

Best wishes,

Maureen
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: fairlane on Friday 24 August 07 14:49 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

You have helped me before and I would be grateful if you could look for the marriage of Thomas Badcock and (probably) Elizabeth in the Bunbury area about 1785 - 1800.

Many thanks, Fairlane
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 24 August 07 14:58 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

You have helped me before and I would be grateful if you could look for the marriage of Thomas Badcock and (probably) Elizabeth in the Bunbury area about 1785 - 1800.

Many thanks, Fairlane

Hi

      Think your right with Elizabeth, found this marriage dated 29/December/1793 at Bunbury Thomas to Betty Wilson.
    There are no other marriages in the right time frame for a Thomas Badcock

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: fairlane on Friday 24 August 07 16:36 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

This marriage would seem to be the one - many thanks.

I would value your opinion on the following.

I have been searching for a marriage for John Edwards and Mary in the Peckforton area. You have helped in the past and I have searched parish registers as well but no joy so far. Through census and searching parish records I have found what I'm pretty sure is a 2nd marriage for Mary Edwards (nee Badcock - father Thomas) in 1841 in Bunbury and she seems to fit. Can't find a baptism for her but on 24 Feb 1799 (which would be a very good fit) there was a baptism of Mary Badcock d/o of John Badcock and also a baptism for William s/o Thomas Badcock (Both in Bunbury). What are the odds on the vicar mixing up the fathers??

regards, Fairlane
.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: john.luem on Friday 24 August 07 17:51 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
Could you possibly help me. I am searching for the marriage of Ann Mottershead born about 1820 Macclesfield and Samuel Maurice born about 1823 of Wilmslow.
           He was a corn and cheese factor and died 1881. Ann died in 1890.
             Their children were James Samuel,
                                              Elizabeth Ann
                        and                Mary Emily

                                 Thanks
                                                    John.luem














Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 24 August 07 18:31 BST (UK)
Could you possibly help me. I am searching for the marriage of Ann Mottershead born about 1820 Macclesfield and Samuel Maurice born about 1823 of Wilmslow.

Hi John,

The only marriage I can see is at www.cheshirebmd.org.uk of Samuel MAURICE and Ann FODEN at Macclesfield St Paul in 1851.  This is also on www.freebmd.org.uk.  Where did you find the surname MOTTERSHEAD?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: john.luem on Saturday 25 August 07 09:59 BST (UK)
Thanks very much. I wonder if  Ann Mottershead
was married previously to '?  Foden' and then remarried in 1851 to a Samuel Maurice.

In 1851  census it gives John Mottershead b1792 as father-in-law to Samuel Maurice.

Can you find any information of a marriage between  an Ann Mottershead b 1821 and ? Foden.

           Thanks for all your help.
                                              John
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 25 August 07 11:02 BST (UK)
Thanks very much. I wonder if  Ann Mottershead
was married previously to '?  Foden' and then remarried in 1851 to a Samuel Maurice.
Can you find any information of a marriage between  an Ann Mottershead b 1821 and ? Foden.
Hi John,

Ann MOTTERSHEAD married James FODEN at Prestbury St Peter 1840 PSP/2/241.  You can check the index yourself at www.cheshirebmd.org.uk.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 25 August 07 11:36 BST (UK)
Hi, I know I have asked for a lookup of this marriage before but it was not able to be found. Now I can't find it on this thread.

However I think I may have asked for a lookup in the wrong area, so I hope it is OK if I try again.

Could someone please see if they can find a marriage between Joseph Lawrenson (many spellings, also misspelled as Sawrinson) and Rebecca (surname unknown). This may have taken place in the Utkinton/Rushton or Tarporley areas of Cheshire from 1816 onwards. First child I know of is born around 1825 but there may have been others born prior to 1825.

Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 25 August 07 11:54 BST (UK)
Hi, I know I have asked for a lookup of this marriage before but it was not able to be found. Now I can't find it on this thread.

However I think I may have asked for a lookup in the wrong area, so I hope it is OK if I try again.

Could someone please see if they can find a marriage between Joseph Lawrenson (many spellings, also misspelled as Sawrinson) and Rebecca (surname unknown). This may have taken place in the Utkinton/Rushton or Tarporley areas of Cheshire from 1816 onwards. First child I know of is born around 1825 but there may have been others born prior to 1825.

Thanks a lot.

Hi Ruskie

            Sorry but there is nothing for them in any of the indexes for anywhere in Cheshire.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 25 August 07 12:13 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

This marriage would seem to be the one - many thanks.

I would value your opinion on the following.

I have been searching for a marriage for John Edwards and Mary in the Peckforton area. You have helped in the past and I have searched parish registers as well but no joy so far. Through census and searching parish records I have found what I'm pretty sure is a 2nd marriage for Mary Edwards (nee Badcock - father Thomas) in 1841 in Bunbury and she seems to fit. Can't find a baptism for her but on 24 Feb 1799 (which would be a very good fit) there was a baptism of Mary Badcock d/o of John Badcock and also a baptism for William s/o Thomas Badcock (Both in Bunbury). What are the odds on the vicar mixing up the fathers??

regards, Fairlane
.

Hi

    Are you asking if the priest got the fathers mixed at the baptism or her "second" marriage ? if the two baptisms were on the same day then there is a chance they could be mixed then.
There was a John Badcock who married at Bunbury 31/Dec/1795 to Elizabeth Gardiner, so it possible both he and Thomas were having children at the same time, are there any mothers names mentioned in the baptism registers ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 25 August 07 13:16 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for looking Peter. It is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: fairlane on Saturday 25 August 07 17:38 BST (UK)
[

Hi

    Are you asking if the priest got the fathers mixed at the baptism or her "second" marriage ? if the two baptisms were on the same day then there is a chance they could be mixed then.
There was a John Badcock who married at Bunbury 31/Dec/1795 to Elizabeth Gardiner, so it possible both he and Thomas were having children at the same time, are there any mothers names mentioned in the baptism registers ?

peterbennett
Quote

Hi Peter
Yes I'm asking re the baptism. No mother's name was mentioned in the baptisms but even so they were both named Elizabeth! John and Thomas Badcock both had sons named John in 1801 and other children as well but there was only one Mary. Looking at my notes I  have found baptism of William son on Thomas Badcock of Peckforton Dec 2nd 1798. I think it's back to Chester R.O. to search burials to see if one Thomas died and the other replaced him - if not vicar mixing up the dad's seems possible. I'll also look at census to see if I can find two Thomas's born about same time.

Thanks for letting me run this past you - it helped to clarify the situation.

best wishes, Fairlane
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: john.luem on Sunday 26 August 07 12:13 BST (UK)
Hi Jean Thanks so much for information. Have tried for a long time now to find out more about Ann Mottershead / Foden / Maurice but to no avail.

At last things are falling into place.
                     Best wishes     John

PS  Could you find out  at all what happened to James Foden?
                              Many thanks J
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 26 August 07 19:16 BST (UK)
PS  Could you find out  at all what happened to James Foden?

Hi John,

There are 2 possible James Foden death records on the index (note that www.cheshirebmd.org.uk is not complete):

James FODEN aged 28 East Macclesfield 1847 EMC/9/13
James FODEN aged 29 Alderley 1851 ALD/2/55

You would need to send for the certificates to be sure.  If you go to the above website and search you will see that you can click on the reference, this will give you a form that you can complete and send off.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Monday 27 August 07 00:08 BST (UK)
Hi,

I'm hoping you can help me with the following marriages.

Randle Kennerley 1677-1726 Lower Peover, Cheshire married Ellen  ???
think she was born 1696-1722 Lower Peover.  All but one of her children died very young.  Earliest known birth Martha, 1713.

and  Father of above, also Randle Kennerley 1650-1729 Lower Peover married Ann ???.  Earliest birth is Randle 1677.

Would love to tie up my loose ends.

Thanking you in advance,
Joan  :)

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 27 August 07 10:11 BST (UK)
Randle Kennerley 1677-1726 Lower Peover, Cheshire married Ellen  ???
think she was born 1696-1722 Lower Peover.  All but one of her children died very young.  Earliest known birth Martha, 1713.
and  Father of above, also Randle Kennerley 1650-1729 Lower Peover married Ann ???.  Earliest birth is Randle 1677.

Hi Joan,

Hope these help:
Randle KENNERLEY m Elizabeth DUDLEY 1676 Church Hulme St Luke (sorry, full date not given)
Randle KENNERLEY m Martha JACKSON 11 Jun 1712 by licence Lower Peover St Oswald

In case they are connected:
Randel KENNERLEY m Elizabeth HODGKINSON 31 Oct 1736 Davenham St Wilfrid
Randle KENNERLEY, tailor m Ann DAVIS 21 Jul 1776 Prestbury

And this looks promising, maybe a second marriage:
Randle KENNERLY m Ellen NORBURY 18 Feb 1717 [old date format] Great Budworth St Mary

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Monday 27 August 07 13:45 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

BRILLIANT!!  Thank you so much.   ;D

There are actually five Randle Kennerleys in my tree that all fit within the time scale, hopefully I can tie nearly all of them in.

Joan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Doggy on Wednesday 29 August 07 10:22 BST (UK)
Hi

I'm looking for a marriage for a Richard GEE (GHEE) of Nantwich.  He was born in 1789 and married Mary.  This may be a long shot as Mary was from Flintshire (Hawarden) so I might have to try that board too. 
The family settled in the Ray area where Richard was a Miller.

Hope someone can help?

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 29 August 07 11:31 BST (UK)
Hi

I'm looking for a marriage for a Richard GEE (GHEE) of Nantwich.  He was born in 1789 and married Mary.  This may be a long shot as Mary was from Flintshire (Hawarden) so I might have to try that board too. 
The family settled in the Ray area where Richard was a Miller.

Hope someone can help?

Cheers
Dave


Hi

    There is a marriage dated 31/March/1811 at St Mary on the Hill Chester for Richard Gee (miller) and Mary Maddock (sp) both resident in the parish. Witnesses were Sarah Maddocks and Jas Lee.
You can find this entry online at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/.

good luck

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Doggy on Wednesday 29 August 07 12:33 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

This looks very promising especially him being a miller.  Wasn't aware of www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/  so I'll have to have a butchers.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Thursday 30 August 07 21:38 BST (UK)
Hello again

You helped me so much once before, I'd like to ask for your help again please.

I have Thomas Robinson born c. 1782 Congleton, Cheshire.  I'm sure he marries Ellen also born Congleton, Cheshire circa 1796.  I can only trace one son at the moment Henry, born 1823 Congleton. So would presume they married Congleton.

Hoping you may be able to find Thomas' wife's maiden name.

Thank you
Joan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 31 August 07 15:33 BST (UK)
Hello again

You helped me so much once before, I'd like to ask for your help again please.

I have Thomas Robinson born c. 1782 Congleton, Cheshire.  I'm sure he marries Ellen also born Congleton, Cheshire circa 1796.  I can only trace one son at the moment Henry, born 1823 Congleton. So would presume they married Congleton.

Hoping you may be able to find Thomas' wife's maiden name.

Thank you
Joan

Hi Joan  :)

              The only Thomas Robinson marrying an Ellen in the Congleton area was an Ellen Stubbs 30/June/1822 at Astbury St Mary. The index states that Thomas was a widower and a bricklayer.

Had a look for earlier marriages in the area and the nearest one was Thomas Robinson bat. to Alice Piggot sp. at Sandbach dated 4/April/1808.

hope this helps

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Friday 31 August 07 22:18 BST (UK)
Hello again Peter,

Whoo hoo looks like there was a first marriage  ::)  The date does fit in perfectly with their son, and I wondered a little about the age gap, but that would account for it.

And he was a BRICKLAYER  ;)

One door opens and leads to - another locked door  ;D

Thanks, Joan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Saturday 01 September 07 09:32 BST (UK)
Hi,
can you please check for a marriage between a Tickle/Tittle and a Wingfield in the Wybunbury area.
Thanks
Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 01 September 07 12:12 BST (UK)
Hi Marie

             There is a marriage by licence at Wybunbury dated 5/December/1797 between Thomas Tickle and Mary Wainfield (sic)

If the licence has survived you may be able to obtain a copy from the http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.tm

regards

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Saturday 01 September 07 13:46 BST (UK)
Thanks Peter, i'll ask about that.
Marie
P.S whats (SIC)?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 01 September 07 14:09 BST (UK)

It just means that I am not sure if its the correct spelling, but I have copied as per the index.

http://www.answers.com/topic/sic-2?cat=biz-fin

peterbennett

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Friday 07 September 07 17:12 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
i got a copy of the marriage license as you suggested, another bit of proof to add to the pile.
Can you please check and see if there is a marriage for Samuel Wingfield, Mary's Father.
Thanks
Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 08 September 07 11:53 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
i got a copy of the marriage license as you suggested, another bit of proof to add to the pile.
Can you please check and see if there is a marriage for Samuel Wingfield, Mary's Father.
Thanks
Marie

Hi Marie

             There is a marriage for a Samuel Wainfield to Sarah Edwards at Wybunbury dated 22/8/1796 by licence.
He may have been Mary Wainfield's brother ?

Where did you get the "fathers" name from, if it was from the licence how was it spelt.

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Saturday 08 September 07 17:12 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
its actually spelt Saml, so i assumed it was a shortened version of Samuel, i suppose it could have been her brother, but as it was on the licence i thought it was the father.
Any other Wingfield's at Wbunbury?
Also, im cheeky, on another line i'm trying to find out my great x seven grandmothers maiden name. Her name was Elizabeth and she married my GGGGGGG Richard Tickle, when she married him she was the widow of William Fatherson, any chance you could check for a wedding between William and an Elizabeth prior to 1754 when there first child, Ann, was born.

Thanks
Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 08 September 07 17:54 BST (UK)
Hi Peter,
its actually spelt Saml, so i assumed it was a shortened version of Samuel, i suppose it could have been her brother, but as it was on the licence i thought it was the father.
Any other Wingfield's at Wbunbury?

Hi Marie,

The Wybunbury PR's are now online at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ - full transcriptions of the parish record.

Also, im cheeky, on another line i'm trying to find out my great x seven grandmothers maiden name. Her name was Elizabeth and she married my GGGGGGG Richard Tickle, when she married him she was the widow of William Fatherson, any chance you could check for a wedding between William and an Elizabeth prior to 1754 when there first child, Ann, was born.

I can't see any marriages for either FATHERSON, FEATHERSON or variants for an Elizabeth in the period you are looking for.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Saturday 08 September 07 18:58 BST (UK)
Thanks Peter, i'll bookmark those.
Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: whdsn on Monday 24 September 07 15:13 BST (UK)
hi chris
           have you got a record for a sarah hodson married 1888 oct-nov-dec in ashton under lyne -volume 8d .trying to find who she married -thanks wayne
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 24 September 07 16:52 BST (UK)
hi chris
           have you got a record for a sarah hodson married 1888 oct-nov-dec in ashton under lyne -volume 8d .trying to find who she married -thanks wayne

Hi Wayne

              You can find the marriage indexed in the
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

            Looks like she married a Samuel Ollerenshaw at Mottram in Longdendale Ashton under Lyne
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ye/

regards

peterbennett
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jud444 on Wednesday 26 September 07 15:59 BST (UK)
Thankyou very much for your help this certainly gives me something to work on. ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: crystalight on Saturday 29 September 07 23:17 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

I don't know if you can help, it would appear that my tree may be incorrect  :'(  I believe my 3 x Great Grandparents to be Thomas Oakes bapt. 15-10-1797 at St. Chads Over Cheshire, married 20-6-1819 Over, to Ann Brown bapt 13-5-1794 Davenham Cheshire.
I have Thomas Brown married to Sarah Barber as Ann's parents (unfortunately no details as yet).
The problem starts with Thomas' parents  :-\ I believe them to be John Oakes bapt. 20-6-1770 at St. Chads married 21-3-1791 Sandbach Cheshire to Mary Rowley bapt. 20-4-1769 Taxel Cheshire, this is currently being queried by a fellow researcher at the moment. Also John Oakes parents whom I have as John Oakes bapt. 19-5-1749 Sandbach, Cheshire married 1-2-1768 in Over by Middlewich to Jane Egerton bapt 3-8-1740 Frodsham.

 ??? The result of this information being incorrect would change a huge amount of my tree starting with John Oakes siblings and working backwards through his "parents" and back another two generations to Samuel Oakes c1674 Cheshire wife unknown.

I just need all the help I can get, so anything would be apprieciated hope you can help, thank you.

crystal, also in 1066 land
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ROSANNA J on Saturday 13 October 07 12:35 BST (UK)
Hi Chris, hope you can help - looking for several marriage dates.  George Wakefield born 1749, died 1829,and Ann[aka Nancy] surname unknown born1742, died1844. They lived Kingsley/Newton area.  Also William Banner and Eleanor Yewd or Youd, no specific dates, but around same time, possiblya little later, than Wakefield couple.  One more - George Joinson[Joynson] born 1783 in Horton cum Peele?, died 1873 in Lower Whitley, and Nancy[aka Ann] surname unknown, born1785, died 1847, married before 1808 maybe. Thanks, Rosanna J.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 13 October 07 12:50 BST (UK)
Hi Rosanna J

Eleanor YEWD married Wm BANNER 22 Jan 1771 at Weaverham

I'm afraid that this is the only one I could find.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ROSANNA J on Saturday 13 October 07 13:01 BST (UK)
Thanks Jean, are there any family details in those early records?  Rosanna J.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 13 October 07 13:07 BST (UK)
The information I have is only an index, but with that information you could try an email to Cheshire Records Office and ask for the details - for a small fee you can get a photocopy of the entry.  The father's name isn't recorded on the early records, but witnesses are, and that could be a help.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Sunday 14 October 07 20:24 BST (UK)
Hi

I'm looking for a marriage between Thomas Nelson & Martha ? abt 1780 ish.

IGI has a submitted entry for a marriage of Thomas Nelson & Martha Bushell in 1779 at Backford but I wondered if there were any other possibles in the area.  My 4xGgrandmother Lydia was baptised in Backford in 1792.

Many thanks
SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 15 October 07 08:22 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra,

The Cheshire Parish Register project has the Backford PR's online at this link:

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Thomas Nelson married Martha Bushell 30th June 1779 at Backford - you can see more information at the site above.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Monday 15 October 07 08:47 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks for the link - great  ;D.  Now also found 2 sisters & 2 brothers for my Lydia & also death of her father [I think] to go with death of her mother in 1838 which I found yesterday.  Stunning progress  ;D

Cheers
SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ROSANNA J on Monday 15 October 07 14:09 BST (UK)
Hi anyone help with some marriage dates - SAMUEL MUMFORD AND JANE[UNKNOWN], 1820s, BIDSTON or CLAUGHTON area.
JOHN SMITH and SARAH[UNKNOWN], 1820s, WINSFORD.
Rosanna J
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 15 October 07 17:27 BST (UK)
Hi Rosanna,

The Bidston PR's are available here: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Marriage as follows:

Samuel MUMFORD to Jane LEDSOM 1 Feb 1814.  Witnesses and Samuel's occupation are also shown.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 15 October 07 17:33 BST (UK)
Hi Rosanna,

Looking for a John Smith is a bit of a needle in a haystack but this is the closest I can see:

John SMITH married Sarah SUDLOW 20 Mar 1828 at Over.

Did the couple have any children after civil registration in 1837?  If so, I think a birth certificate for one of the children would be a good idea so that you can confirm Sarah's maiden name.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ROSANNA J on Monday 15 October 07 20:06 BST (UK)
Thanks Jean, some of censuses for Smiths were addresses in Over, so probably right Sarah.
Rosanna J
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: daveyowen on Thursday 18 October 07 17:36 BST (UK)
Hello,

I don't know if anyone can help:

Can someone possibly see the Parish records for Barthomley

18th May 1788 - William Owen (Gt Gt Gt grandfather)   baptism   does it say who the parents are ?
                                                                                           hopefully John Owen and Sarah Walker


 year 1749 long shot as no month or day  John Owen   baptism  does it say who the parents are ?

and being very cheeky (if available...though more concerned with above)

marriages
------------

My gt gt gt grandfather William Owen born 1788, married Mary Dykes in Barthomley, Cheshire 30/12/1813. Can you posibly check to see if there are any parent names on the marriage register ?


My gt gt gt gt grandfather John Owen married Sarak Walker at Barthomley, Cheshire 23/10/1774. Can you possibly check to see if there are any parent names on the marriage register ?

Many many thanks,

David :)







Title: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Raylen on Wednesday 31 October 07 12:43 GMT (UK)

I was hoping to find a marriage date for
Thomas Later married Martha (Unknown)
Possibly Bowden abt 1828.

Thomas was born c 1802 and died 1839 in Bowdon
Martha born C1802 and died Bowdon 1886

Hope that is enough information get a result.

Thanks in advance,
Raylen
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: pamloganpowney on Wednesday 31 October 07 18:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
Please could you have a look for a marriage of
Joseph Cowdell abt 1760s/70s
His son Enoch was born 1797 Stockport and baptised at St Mary's
l think he may be the only Cowdell
Thank you in advance
Pam
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rubyrose on Wednesday 31 October 07 22:23 GMT (UK)
Can someone please help with a marriage record for Robert Calveley (Calvely) born Storeton about 1805. Looked on the university Cheshire parish records site but cannot find it. Robert married Mary (born 1806 in Bromborough) about 1825.

I have the records from Cheshire for the birth of Robert and Mary's 10 children in Bromborough between 1826 and 1844 and death record for Robert in 1874 (he was living in Tranmere at the time).

Any help would be much appreciated.

Many thanks

Ruby
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 01 November 07 16:54 GMT (UK)
Can someone possibly see the Parish records for Barthomley
18th May 1788 - William Owen (Gt Gt Gt grandfather)   baptism   does it say who the parents are ?
                                                                                           hopefully John Owen and Sarah Walker

 year 1749 long shot as no month or day  John Owen   baptism  does it say who the parents are ?

and being very cheeky (if available...though more concerned with above)

My gt gt gt grandfather William Owen born 1788, married Mary Dykes in Barthomley, Cheshire 30/12/1813. Can you posibly check to see if there are any parent names on the marriage register ?

My gt gt gt gt grandfather John Owen married Sarak Walker at Barthomley, Cheshire 23/10/1774. Can you possibly check to see if there are any parent names on the marriage register ?

Many many thanks,

David :)

Hi David,

The baptism for William Owen 18 May 1788 at Barthomley is on the IGI (www.familysearch.org) and gives the parents as John Owen and Sarah Walker

Although the baptism of John in 1749 is also on IGI there are no details.  You might be better to post a separate topic to request a parish register lookup on the Lookup Request Board (as this one is for marriages!  ;D

The marriage lookups on this board are usually done from an index so won't give any more information than you already have.  You will be lucky to find parents names on the register, but you may find some useful information from the witnesses.  As you have the exact marriage dates you might be better to email the Cheshire Records Office and ask them to supply you with the details - for a small fee they will send you a photocopy.

Hope this is some help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 01 November 07 16:58 GMT (UK)
I was hoping to find a marriage date for Thomas Later married Martha (Unknown)
Possibly Bowden abt 1828.

Thomas was born c 1802 and died 1839 in Bowdon Martha born C1802 and died Bowdon 1886

Hope that is enough information get a result.

Thanks in advance,
Raylen

Hi Raylen,

Thos LATER m Martha CLARKE 4 Feb 1828 Bowden by licence

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: daveyowen on Thursday 01 November 07 17:00 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean,

Thanks. It gives me something to go on.

Best wishes,

David
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 01 November 07 17:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
Please could you have a look for a marriage of Joseph Cowdell abt 1760s/70s
His son Enoch was born 1797 Stockport and baptised at St Mary's
l think he may be the only Cowdell
Thank you in advance
Pam

Hi Pam,

I've checked the indexes I have access to and can't find Joseph's marriage - they aren't complete though so he may turn up somewhere.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: pamloganpowney on Thursday 01 November 07 17:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean
Thank you so much for looking. l really appreciate it very much
l'll keep looking
Kind regards
Pam
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 01 November 07 17:08 GMT (UK)
Can someone please help with a marriage record for Robert Calveley (Calvely) born Storeton about 1805. Looked on the university Cheshire parish records site but cannot find it. Robert married Mary (born 1806 in Bromborough) about 1825.

I have the records from Cheshire for the birth of Robert and Mary's 10 children in Bromborough between 1826 and 1844 and death record for Robert in 1874 (he was living in Tranmere at the time).

Any help would be much appreciated.

Many thanks

Ruby

Hi Ruby,

Sorry, I can't see a marriage for Robert under either spelling.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rubyrose on Thursday 01 November 07 20:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Many thanks for looking - wonder if he married in Liverpool? Suppose its a possibility that needs checking. Read somewhere on RC that people from the Wirral did marry in Liverpool sometimes.

Many thanks once again for your help.

Regards

Ruby
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 02 November 07 18:22 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for looking - wonder if he married in Liverpool? Suppose its a possibility that needs checking. Read somewhere on RC that people from the Wirral did marry in Liverpool sometimes.

Many thanks once again for your help.

Regards

Ruby

Hi Ruby,

IGI has this marriage:

Robert CALVELY m Mary WORRALL 1 May 1826 St Nicholas Liverpool batch M005992

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Friday 02 November 07 18:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Ruby

Lan-OPC has that marriage listed too.

It gives Robert's occupation as cordwainer & they were married by Banns.

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Regards
SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rubyrose on Friday 02 November 07 20:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean and Sandra

Many thanks for that information - it has to be the right one as on all his children's birth records he is described as a shoemaker! Bingo! Been searching for that one for ages - really appreciate the help.

Wonder why they went to Liverpool - I'll have to find the old thread where it discussed people going to Liverpool to get married.

Many thanks, once again, to you both for your help.

Regards

Ruby

PS Just checked the birth records for the children and their first child was born on the 26th November - so that's probably my answer!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kathwc on Sunday 04 November 07 15:38 GMT (UK)
Could you help me look up this family:
HANNAH SNELSON   was born 1796 in Cheshire, England, and died 1857 in Moundsville, WI USA.      She married JOHN POWELL 16 Jun 1823 in Tarvin, Duddon, Cheshire. 

Children of HANNAH SNELSON and JOHN POWELL are:
   ii.   HANNAH3 POWELL, b. 1828, Liverpool England; d. Dec 1902, USA.
   iii.   JOHN POWELL, b. 1826, Lancashire, England; d. Wisconsin, USA.
   iv.   SUSANNA POWELL, b. 1831, Lancashire, England; d. USA.
   v.   SAMUEL POWELL, b. 1827, Chester, Cheshire England.
   vi.   JAMES POWELL, b. 1826, Cheshire.
   vii.   WILLIAM POWELL.
   viii.   THOMAS POWELL, b. 13 Jan 1837, Duddon, Tarvin, Cheshire, England.
   ix.   MARY ELIZABETH POWELL, b. 1824, Chester, Cheshire England; d. Missouri.

Hannah's parents were:
.  SAMUEL1 SNELSON1 was born 1769 in Tarvin, Duddon, Cheshire, and died 25 Jul 1835 in Duddon, Tarvin, Cheshire, England.  He married MARY ANDERTON 13 Dec 1793 in Bunbury, Tarporley, Cheshire, England.  She was born 1770 in Bunbury, Tarporley, Cheshire, England.
   
Children of SAMUEL SNELSON and MARY ANDERTON are:
   i.   HANNAH2 SNELSON, b. 1796, Cheshire, England; d. 1857, Moundsville, WI USA.
   ii.   MARY SNELSON, b. 1795, Tarvin, Cheshire, England; d. 23 Jan 1865, Tarvin, Duddon, Chester.
   iii.   JOHN SNELSON, b. Abt. 1806, Tarvin, Duddon, Cheshire.
   iv.   SAMUEL SNELSON, b. 1802, Tarvin, Duddon, Cheshire.

Hannah also had a illegitmate child Thomas b1813, I have the parish record of his christening.

i would be grateful for help as I have hit a brick wall with this family.


Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Raylen on Monday 05 November 07 09:28 GMT (UK)

Hello Jean,

Sorry I'm a bit late,but
Thank you for the information.

Raylen
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 05 November 07 17:59 GMT (UK)
Could you help me look up this family:
HANNAH SNELSON   was born 1796 in Cheshire, England, and died 1857 in Moundsville, WI USA.      She married JOHN POWELL 16 Jun 1823 in Tarvin, Duddon, Cheshire. 
i would be grateful for help as I have hit a brick wall with this family.

Hi kathwc,

Well, you seem to have done very well with the family so far!  What information is it you are looking for?  This thread is for lookups for marriages before 1837, but you seem to have all the information for the marriages.....please let us know what information you need to help you and we will do our best!  ;D

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kathwc on Monday 05 November 07 18:02 GMT (UK)
Dear JDGed,

I would like to know when  John came from., his parents and on any info on Hannah's parents, Samuel and Mary, especially their parents.
Regards
Kathwc
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Monday 05 November 07 18:35 GMT (UK)
Hi,
can you please look up a marriage between John Potter and Frances, i dont know her last name. The marriage will be prior to 1822.
Thanks
Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 05 November 07 18:37 GMT (UK)
Dear JDGed,
I would like to know when  John came from., his parents and on any info on Hannah's parents, Samuel and Mary, especially their parents.
Regards
Kathwc

Hi Kathwc,

I've posted a separate thread here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,266321.0.html

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 05 November 07 18:40 GMT (UK)
Hi,
can you please look up a marriage between John Potter and Frances, i dont know her last name. The marriage will be prior to 1822.
Thanks
Marie
Hi Marie,

There is this marriage:

Jon'n [abbreviation for Jonathan I think] POTTER, Silk Weaver married Frances ORME, Sp. 29 Nov 1814 at Prestbury - Both of Macclesfield

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: oldtimer on Monday 05 November 07 18:46 GMT (UK)
H JD

I would be most grateful if you could look at for a marriage for me, between THOMAS MOORE and MARY probably in BOWDON around 1810-1812.

Many thanks, Judy  ;)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Monday 05 November 07 18:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
thanks for looking them up but i dont think its the right couple. I should have said that John was a Waterman/boatman/mariner
Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 05 November 07 19:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
thanks for looking them up but i dont think its the right couple. I should have said that John was a Waterman/boatman/mariner
Marie

Hi Marie,

Sorry, it's the only one I can see.  Do you have any idea where they might have married, eg. birthplace of Frances?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: mafric on Monday 05 November 07 19:05 GMT (UK)
Hi,
i think that they were in Chester, thats where the kids were born.
Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 05 November 07 19:09 GMT (UK)
H JD

I would be most grateful if you could look at for a marriage for me, between THOMAS MOORE and MARY probably in BOWDON around 1810-1812.

Many thanks, Judy  ;)

Hi Judy,

No exact matches, but there are these:

Thos MOORE, wvr m Mary PADMORE 12 Jun 1794 Bowden
Thos MOORE, wdr m Mary RIDER, sp 19 Jul 1790 Great Budworth
Thomas MOORE m Mary GIBSON 30 Nov 1830 Bowden
Thomas MOORE wdr m Mary SERGEANT wdw 1 Apr 1794 Frodsham by licence

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: oldtimer on Monday 05 November 07 19:11 GMT (UK)
hi Jean!!

Thank you so much! That is great! Much appreciated!!

Best wishes, Judy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 05 November 07 19:14 GMT (UK)
Hi,
i think that they were in Chester, thats where the kids were born.
Marie

Hi Marie,

I can't see anything for them, also checked at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ as there are a couple of the Chester parishes on there now.

Sorry I couldn't help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sheikhalbadou on Wednesday 07 November 07 21:29 GMT (UK)
Hi JD

I wonder if you could look for the following for me?

Susannah Brooke/s married ? Stevenson around 1735 in the Malpas area (possibly Harthill).

Thanks

Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 08 November 07 18:01 GMT (UK)
Hi JD

I wonder if you could look for the following for me?

Susannah Brooke/s married ? Stevenson around 1735 in the Malpas area (possibly Harthill).

Thanks

Sue
Hi Sue,

Sorry, this marriage doesn't appear on my indexes - I checked BROOK, BROOKE, BROOKES and BROOKS.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sheikhalbadou on Sunday 11 November 07 19:32 GMT (UK)
Thanks anyway

Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Monday 12 November 07 15:07 GMT (UK)
Hi please can anybody check in the index for a Robert Heald and Mary for me married 1760's or before.

Many Thanks

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 12 November 07 15:45 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean - I'd be very interested to know of any Metcalf marriages that might be listed in Macclesfield, Hurdsfield or Prestbury.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 13 November 07 17:58 GMT (UK)
Hi please can anybody check in the index for a Robert Heald and Mary for me married 1760's or before.
Many Thanks
Anna

Hi Anna,

The only marriage that fits the dates is:

Robert HEALD, U/V [could be widower and mistranscribed?] married Sarah CAREY 8 Jul 1759 Prestbury

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 13 November 07 18:15 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean - I'd be very interested to know of any Metcalf marriages that might be listed in Macclesfield, Hurdsfield or Prestbury.

Hi Shaun,

As there aren't very many......  ;D

Ceciley METCALF, Macc m Edward STANLEY, Tailor, Macc 26 Dec 1803 Prestbury
Eliz. METCALF sp Marton m John BURROWS, Blacksmith, Marton 25 Dec 1821 Prestbury
Ellen METCALF, Macc m John BROADHURST, Cotton Spinner, Macc 9 Dec 1798 Prestbury
Hannah METCALF m Samuel REDFERN, Cotton Spinner 9 Dec 1802 Prestbury both of Macc
Isaac METCALF, Husb, Macc m Mary Ann AINSWORTH, Hurdsfield 31 Oct 1809 Prestbury
Isaac METCALF, wdr, publican m Mary HEALD 3 Nov 1812 Stockport
James METCALF m Mary BUTLER 12 Mar 1815 Cheadle
John METCALF, Husb. R m Ann AINSWORTH, R 8 Oct 1772 Prestbury
John METCALF, Innkeeper, Macc m Ann BROWN wdw Macc 3 Jun 1794 Prestbury
Joseph METCALF, Husb, Macc m Sarah BADDILEY, Macc 7 Dec 1802 Prestbury
Mary METCALF, sp. Macclesfield m Joseph NORBURY, Butcher, Henbury 27 Mar 1826 Prestbury by Licence
William METCALF, wdr, Lab m Mary PLANT wdw 9 Sep 1806 Stockport
William METCALF, wdr, husbmn m Mary GARSIDE, wdw 23 Sep 1811 Stockport
Ann METCALFE, sp m Andrew WORRALL Bachelor 19 Mar 1837 Prestbury both Macc
James METCALFE m Charlotte GOSLING 22 Dec 1782 Cheadle
John METCALFE m Mary Ann WOOD 19 Aug 1781 Stockport
Maria Ainsworth METCALFE, sp m Edward SMITH currier 9 Nov 1833 Prestbury by licence with consent of Isaac METCALFE, Maria's father, both Macc
Mary METCALFE, minor, Macclesfield m John NORBURY, butcher, Macclesfield 15 May 1794 by Licence
Sarah METCALFE, sp m Jas BAILEY, weaver 1 Jan 1766 Stockport
William METCALFE, wdr, carter m Ann CLARK wdw 16 Aug 1824 Stockport

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 13 November 07 18:38 GMT (UK)
Wow Jean - Thanks so much.  That's really helpful!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kena on Tuesday 13 November 07 19:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean, many thanks for that.

Anna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: crystalight on Tuesday 13 November 07 19:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

I would be very interested to know if you can find marriage records for
Thomas Oakes bapt. 15-10-1797 at St. Chads Over Cheshire, married c1819 in Over, Cheshire possibly to Ann Brown 1794  of Davenham Cheshire.
and
John Oakes bapt. 20-6-1770 at St. Chads married  c1791 Sandbach Cheshire possibly to Mary Rowley 1769 of Taxel

thank you
Crystal  :D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 13 November 07 22:52 GMT (UK)
Jean,

That Metcalf information is gold dust - many a mystery is being sorted - thanks again !


Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 14 November 07 18:17 GMT (UK)
I would be very interested to know if you can find marriage records for
Thomas Oakes bapt. 15-10-1797 at St. Chads Over Cheshire, married c1819 in Over, Cheshire possibly to Ann Brown 1794  of Davenham Cheshire.
and
John Oakes bapt. 20-6-1770 at St. Chads married  c1791 Sandbach Cheshire possibly to Mary Rowley 1769 of Taxel
thank you
Crystal  :D

Hi Crystal,

Thomas OAKES m Anne BROWN 20 Jun 1819 Over
John OAKES m Mary ROWLEY 21 Mar 1791 Sandbach

No other information given.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: crystalight on Wednesday 14 November 07 18:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for that, Jean, what a shame there was no other information. At least I know the marriage records exist.

Best wishes Crystal  :D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837: Looking for ALLEN
Post by: Josee on Thursday 15 November 07 09:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean
Wonder if you can help me find a marriage for my John ALLEN b abt 1798 at High Legh.
His wife was Mary born at Baguley about 1809. Their first child (Alice) as far as I can know was born in 1835 at Lostock Lancs.
They spent all their married life at Longford Tce in Stretford.
He died about 1874. I am guessing or assuming that as Mary was from Baguley that's where they married.
Heres hoping... ;D
Cheers
Jo
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: TSB on Thursday 15 November 07 10:22 GMT (UK)
hi  jean
i wonder if you can find the marriages of elizabeth winstanley
and matilda winstanley.
elizabeth was born in1826 in aston-by-budworth.
matilda was born1835 in aston-by-budworth.
                          thanks
                               tsb
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837: Looking for ALLEN
Post by: JDGen on Friday 16 November 07 18:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean
Wonder if you can help me find a marriage for my John ALLEN b abt 1798 at High Legh.
His wife was Mary born at Baguley about 1809. Their first child (Alice) as far as I can know was born in 1835 at Lostock Lancs.
They spent all their married life at Longford Tce in Stretford.
He died about 1874. I am guessing or assuming that as Mary was from Baguley that's where they married.
Heres hoping... ;D
Cheers
Jo

Hi Jo,

The only one I can see that may fit is:

John ALLEN m Mary ASHTON 16 Feb 1824 at Cheadle which looks to be too early.  Did they have any other children after 1837?  If they did, I'd suggest purchasing a birth certificate so that you have Mary's maiden name.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 16 November 07 18:19 GMT (UK)
hi  jean
i wonder if you can find the marriages of elizabeth winstanley
and matilda winstanley.
elizabeth was born in1826 in aston-by-budworth.
matilda was born1835 in aston-by-budworth.
                          thanks
                               tsb

Hi tsb,

The indexes only have marriages before civil registration began in 1837.  If they married in Cheshire you should be able to find them at www.cheshirebmd.org.uk.

I've had a look and can't see anything obvious, do you know that they definitely married?  I can see Matilda at home with the family in the 1841 census (HO107 92/3/4 Page 3) and in 1851 (HO107 2163/230 Page 22).  Elizabeth is working nearby as a servant in 1841 (HO107 92/3/6 Page 7) and as a servant again in 1851 (HO107 2165/407 Page 37).  I can't see either Matilda or Elizabeth in 1861, but can't find marriages for them either.

Is this any use?  It's the MI for Luke and Elizabeth (parents of Elizabeth and Matilda) from Great Budworth St Mary:

Underneath lieth the remains of LUKE WINSTANLEY who departed this life 23 January 1863 aged 67 years  Also ELIZABETH wife of the above who departed this life February 5 1872 aged 73 years  Also the remains of MATTHEW WINSTANLEY son of LUKE and ELIZABETH WINSTANLEY of Great Budworth who departed this life September 29 1822 aged 1 year 7 months

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Josee on Friday 16 November 07 23:43 GMT (UK)
 

Hi Jo,

The only one I can see that may fit is:

John ALLEN m Mary ASHTON 16 Feb 1824 at Cheadle which looks to be too early. Did they have any other children after 1837? If they did, I'd suggest purchasing a birth certificate so that you have the Mary's maiden name.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Jean Thankyou for taing the time to look. I agree 1824 is too early, not sure why I didn't think of purchasing a certificate earlier myself ???Thanks again.
Cheeers
Jo
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: TSB on Saturday 17 November 07 14:57 GMT (UK)
hi jean
thank you for  the info on the winstanleys
it was most helpfull
                 thanks again
                        tsb
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Doggy on Wednesday 21 November 07 13:57 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have a marriage of a Hannah WILLIAMSON (Widower) to a William GEE in Chester? in 1833 which I found on the Cheshire Parish Register Database.  I am now trying to find Hannah's first marriage.  My understanding is that she married a William WILLIAMSON but I'm not sure of Hannah's maiden name.  I also believe that they may have originated from just over the boarder in Bretton.  I know they had at least two children, Mary  abt 1827 and Joseph abt 1829. 

Can anyone help

Cheers

Doggy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 23 November 07 17:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Doggy,

There is this marriage which is a possibility:

William WILLIAMSON m Hannah WILLIAMS 26 Dec 1826 at Chester St Oswald.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Doggy on Saturday 24 November 07 10:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

I think you might have cracked it.  I'm hoping now to find out if they had children to see if they match with mine?

Thanks for your help.

Doggy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Marg S on Saturday 24 November 07 11:15 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris,

Could you please look for the marriage of Jesse or James HOPLEY to Jane ROBINSON in the early 1830s.  To the best of my knowledge their first child was born 1832 Weaverham, Cheshire.  Jane's mother was Mary ROBINSON.

Many thanks for your generous lookup offer.

Margaret Stevens
Sydney, Australia
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 25 November 07 09:16 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris,

Could you please look for the marriage of Jesse or James HOPLEY to Jane ROBINSON in the early 1830s.  To the best of my knowledge their first child was born 1832 Weaverham, Cheshire.  Jane's mother was Mary ROBINSON.

Many thanks for your generous lookup offer.

Margaret Stevens
Sydney, Australia

Hi Margaret,

Jesse HOPLEY, Veterinary Surgeon m Jane ROBINSON sp. 24 Jan 1828 Thornton le Moors by licence

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Marg S on Sunday 25 November 07 09:29 GMT (UK)
Oh, you are wonderful Jan, thanks so much for finding the HOPLEY & ROBINSON marriage. 

Could you please tell me if there were any other HOPLEY or ROBINSON marriages around that time??  as I dont know who Jesse and Jane's siblings were.  Also were there any other HOPLEY children born to Jesse and Jane??

Many thanks,
Marg S
Sydney
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 25 November 07 12:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Marg,

I can't see anything obvious, but there are hundreds of Robinson marriages as you can imagine.  As they married by licence it could be that neither of them were from the parish.  You could contact Cheshire Records Office by email and ask for the details of the marriage entry which might give useful witnesses, or see if you can get a copy of the marriage licence.  You can order copies online via the website for a small fee.

I'd post a separate lookup for baptisms of the children - possibly at Weaverham as that is where the children seem to be born.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Andy James on Tuesday 27 November 07 10:28 GMT (UK)
Dear all,

I'm not sure what information is available about marriages in the records that people have, so apologies in advance if I'm asking for something that's not possible!

I have a marriage between Samuel Edwards and Catherine Lewis (my 4xgreat grandparents) at Tarvin on 2 April 1818. There is a user submitted entry for this marriage on the IGI, and I've had a family bible transcript sent, so I'm pretty sure it's the right one for me.

I have two questions really. The first is, is it possible from the records that people have to see the names of Samuel and Catherine's parents' or at least father's names?

Secondly, if it is, would it also be possible to see Ann Edwards - married Thomas Peacock at Tarvin either Jan or Jun 1807  and Elizabeth Edwards who married John Cawley at Tarvin on 5  January 1790.

This would all help in tying people into - or not - a set of Edwards' wills I have.

Sorry this is so long, and thanks in advance for any help anyone can give.

Best wishes

Andy



Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 27 November 07 21:52 GMT (UK)
Dear all,

I'm not sure what information is available about marriages in the records that people have, so apologies in advance if I'm asking for something that's not possible!

I have a marriage between Samuel Edwards and Catherine Lewis (my 4xgreat grandparents) at Tarvin on 2 April 1818. There is a user submitted entry for this marriage on the IGI, and I've had a family bible transcript sent, so I'm pretty sure it's the right one for me.

I have two questions really. The first is, is it possible from the records that people have to see the names of Samuel and Catherine's parents' or at least father's names?

Secondly, if it is, would it also be possible to see Ann Edwards - married Thomas Peacock at Tarvin either Jan or Jun 1807  and Elizabeth Edwards who married John Cawley at Tarvin on 5  January 1790.

Hi Andy,

The sources of information are indexes so don't contain much more than you can see on the IGI although there is occasionally more information.  It is unlikely that the parents names will be given but there may be witnesses that would help - the marriage may also be by licence so you may get further information from that.  Anyway, some information I have found:

Ann EDWARDS m Thomas PEACOCK 18 Jun 1807 Tarvin St Andrew by licence

Neither of the other marriages appear on the index - it is by no means complete.

It might be worth sending off to Cheshire Records office for copies of the parish entries as you have the dates - you can order copies online for a small fee.  The witnesses may help you to piece the information together.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: berton on Tuesday 11 December 07 17:52 GMT (UK)
You don't possibly have records of this marriage of a paternal ancestor of mine, do you?(You didn't say 19th century, I know.)

Samuel Pemberton m. Elizabeth Beresford, Mar. 20th 1811. Bunbury.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cyndy on Wednesday 12 December 07 22:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris.
Do you have any info. on this marriage, possibly at St. Mary`s Halton

Jonathan Bate and Elizabeth Gross around 1778

Cheers, Cyndy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 12 December 07 22:44 GMT (UK)
You don't possibly have records of this marriage of a paternal ancestor of mine, do you?(You didn't say 19th century, I know.)

Samuel Pemberton m. Elizabeth Beresford, Mar. 20th 1811. Bunbury.

Hi berton and welcome to rootschat.

The marriage of Samuel PEMBERTON and Elizabeth BERESFORD is on the index, but there is only the information that you already have, that they married 20 Mar 1811 at Bunbury St Boniface.  As you have the exact date you could email Cheshire Records office and ask for the details of the parish register entry, or get a photocopy for a small fee - you can order online on their website.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 12 December 07 22:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris.
Do you have any info. on this marriage, possibly at St. Mary`s Halton

Jonathan Bate and Elizabeth Gross around 1778

Cheers, Cyndy


Hi Cyndy,

I can't see that marriage, but there is this:

Jonathan BATE m Betty CROFT, sp, 31 Dec 1778 at Runcorn

Hope this is of some help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cyndy on Wednesday 12 December 07 22:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean, That`s interesting because I have the 31st December down for my Jonathan Bate marriage but somewhere along the way the name Elizabeth Gross has cropped up.
Cyndy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cyndy on Wednesday 12 December 07 22:58 GMT (UK)
Jean, I`ve just had a thought. Elizabeth and Betty could be the same person and Gross and Croft are very similar surnames too!!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: berton on Thursday 13 December 07 07:12 GMT (UK)
Jean
Thanks for the reply to my enquiry re marriage Elizabeth Beresford and Samuel Pemberton 1811. :)
Alan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Monday 17 December 07 11:41 GMT (UK)
hi..i would be really grateful if you could check the marriage of Daniel Oakes b 1782 in backford,cheshire..he married an Elizabeth unknown in St Oswalds church in backford about 1816...his father was ralph oakes who lived in backford at daniels birth..i know ralph married mary unknown about 1775,but i haven`t a clue where ralph and mary were married,or indeed where they were born...any help would be very,very welcome....kind regards...allan oakes
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: oldtimer on Monday 17 December 07 16:27 GMT (UK)
Hi there!

Would you be kind enough please to look for a marriage between
 JAMES DALE and  MARY MOORE around the 1820s, possibly in the Bowdon/Atrincham area, or maybe Warfield.

Many thanks for your help

Judy  ;)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 17 December 07 18:15 GMT (UK)
hi..i would be really grateful if you could check the marriage of Daniel Oakes b 1782 in backford,cheshire..he married an Elizabeth unknown in St Oswalds church in backford about 1816...his father was ralph oakes who lived in backford at daniels birth..i know ralph married mary unknown about 1775,but i haven`t a clue where ralph and mary were married,or indeed where they were born...any help would be very,very welcome....kind regards...allan oakes

Hi Allan,

I have checked the indexes for either of these marriages but no luck.  The Backford parish registers are online at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ - there is no marriage for Daniel OAKES there - do you know where his wife was from as they may have married in her home parish.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 17 December 07 18:24 GMT (UK)
Hi there!

Would you be kind enough please to look for a marriage between
 JAMES DALE and  MARY MOORE around the 1820s, possibly in the Bowdon/Atrincham area, or maybe Warfield.

Many thanks for your help

Judy  ;)

Hi Judy,

Have checked my indexes, sorry, no sign of the marriage.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Monday 17 December 07 18:30 GMT (UK)
thanks jean.....i use the csc site alot and i`m sure that s where i found daniels babtism....i get a little confused at times..i don`t find this research easy..maybe it was on their son thomas oakes babtism that i found `parents daniel and elizabeth`...so maybe i jumped the gun saying they were married at st oswalds church...i`ll check again ...i`m certain you`re right....otherwise i`d have elizabeths maiden name,wouldn`t i ?........regards...allan...added....jean..just checked csc site,and it`s thru the babtism of thomas oakes b1818 in neston that i have daniel and elizabeths names as parents..so i jumped the gun saying they were married at st oswalds...sorry to mislead you..i have so much in my head,i sometimes get mixed up..daniels babtism is on the csc site in st oswalds church,backford.....regards...allan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: oldtimer on Monday 17 December 07 18:32 GMT (UK)
Ok Jean  ;)

Many thanks for looking!  ;)

merry Christmas  :D :D

Judy  ;)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 17 December 07 18:33 GMT (UK)
thanks jean.....i use the csc site alot and i`m sure that s where i found daniels babtism....i get a little confused at times..i don`t find this research easy..maybe it was on their son thomas oakes babtism that i found `parents daniel and elizabeth`...so maybe i jumped the gun saying they were married at st oswalds church...i`ll check again ...i`m certain you`re right....otherwise i`d have elizabeths maiden name,wouldn`t i ?........regards...allan

Hi Allan,

No problem, I did notice that Daniel's baptism is on there!  :)

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Monday 17 December 07 18:39 GMT (UK)
thanks jean...its through daniels babtism on csc site i know that his parents were ralph and mary..hence the brick wall with both marriages....regards..allan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sheikhalbadou on Tuesday 18 December 07 14:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

I know I have asked for this in the past, but I think I gave you the wrong date.  So fingers crossed you might find it!

? Stevenson married Susannah Brook/e/s after 1750 in Malpas/Harthill or Bunbury

Thank you

Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: oldtimer on Tuesday 18 December 07 17:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Could I please trouble you again for another marriage look-up.

It is between JOSEPH MOORE and HANNAH, around 1750, possibly in the Bowdon/Altrincham area.

Many thanks for your help.

Judy  ;)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 18 December 07 18:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

I know I have asked for this in the past, but I think I gave you the wrong date.  So fingers crossed you might find it!

? Stevenson married Susannah Brook/e/s after 1750 in Malpas/Harthill or Bunbury

Thank you

Sue

Sorry Sue, still not there!  Some parishes just aren't very well covered.....

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 18 December 07 18:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Could I please trouble you again for another marriage look-up.

It is between JOSEPH MOORE and HANNAH, around 1750, possibly in the Bowdon/Altrincham area.

Many thanks for your help.

Judy  ;)

Hi Judy,

Nothing obvious, but:

Joseph MOORE, Carpenter m Anne FAULKNER, sp, 29 Sep 1768 Bowden

Anne and Hannah can sometimes be interchangeable, but I think it's a bit late for your marriage. 

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: oldtimer on Tuesday 18 December 07 18:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean! That's fantastic! I know my Joseph was a carpenter, and I was only roughly estimating the dates, so I think it is probably them!

Thank you ever so much!! Best wishes, and Merry Christmas  :) :) :)

Judy  ;)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sheikhalbadou on Tuesday 18 December 07 18:30 GMT (UK)
thanks Jean - it was a slim hope!

All the best

Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 18 December 07 18:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean! That's fantastic! I know my Joseph was a carpenter, and I was only roughly estimating the dates, so I think it is probably them!

Thank you ever so much!! Best wishes, and Merry Christmas  :) :) :)

Judy  ;)

Hi Judy,

In that case, these might be of interest as well:

Joseph MOORE, Carpenter of L W [probably Lower Withington] m Ellen BRERETON 7 Aug 1763 Prestbury
and maybe...
Joseph MOORE, Joiner m Mary HEALD, sp 26 Feb 1799 Ashton on Mersey

On the FAULKNER marriage, the dates of the banns is given, Sept 11, 18 and 25th!!

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: oldtimer on Tuesday 18 December 07 18:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean!1

Thanks very much for the further information! It was very kind of you!

Best wishes, Judy  ;)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sheikhalbadou on Wednesday 19 December 07 11:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

One more for you if you don't mind.

Marriage between John Done and Sarah Brooke Peers, Malpas between 1806 and 1824.

Thank you!

Sue :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Stovepipe on Wednesday 19 December 07 12:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris (or any other kind looker-up),

I'm looking for a marriage in Cheshire around 1833 of George WESTON and Elizabeth COLLIER.  Elizabeth's parents lived in the city of Chester and had all her younger siblings baptised at St John's Church there over several years up to 1832.  But as far as I know all Elizabeth's children by George were born in London.  (So I'm not too confident about the Cheshire location.)

I know your original post said 17th & 18th Century dates, but you've supplied 19th Century dates elsewhere, so I hope you can help me.  Even a negative result would encourage me in my trawls through London registers.

Thanks in advance,
Stovepipe
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 19 December 07 16:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

One more for you if you don't mind.

Marriage between John Done and Sarah Brooke Peers, Malpas between 1806 and 1824.

Thank you!

Sue :)

Hi Sue,

Sorry, this marriage isn't there either.  Malpas doesn't seem to be very well covered unfortunately....
 :(
Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 19 December 07 16:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris (or any other kind looker-up),

I'm looking for a marriage in Cheshire around 1833 of George WESTON and Elizabeth COLLIER.  Elizabeth's parents lived in the city of Chester and had all her younger siblings baptised at St John's Church there over several years up to 1832.  But as far as I know all Elizabeth's children by George were born in London.  (So I'm not too confident about the Cheshire location.)

I know your original post said 17th & 18th Century dates, but you've supplied 19th Century dates elsewhere, so I hope you can help me.  Even a negative result would encourage me in my trawls through London registers.

Thanks in advance,
Stovepipe

Hi Stovepipe,

The indexes cover pre 1837 so early 19th C is fine.  However, the marriage you are looking for isn't on the index.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Stovepipe on Wednesday 19 December 07 17:33 GMT (UK)
Jean,

Many thanks for looking.

Stovepipe
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sheikhalbadou on Wednesday 19 December 07 19:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks anyway Jean - I'll try and find one to ask you that isn't in Malpas next time!

Sue :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juju9999uk on Thursday 20 December 07 01:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
I have a marriage for Abigail Lewis and Owen Lea, 01 Dec 1664, Acton by Nantwich, Cheshire. I think her father is Phillip Lewis but cannot find a birth record. Is it possible for you to find a marriage of Phillip Lewis(Lewes). I am afraid I do not have mothers name.
Regards
Juju
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 20 December 07 08:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
I have a marriage for Abigail Lewis and Owen Lea, 01 Dec 1664, Acton by Nantwich, Cheshire. I think her father is Phillip Lewis but cannot find a birth record. Is it possible for you to find a marriage of Phillip Lewis(Lewes). I am afraid I do not have mothers name.
Regards
Juju

Sorry juju, the marriage is not on my indexes.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juju9999uk on Monday 24 December 07 13:33 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 27 December 07 16:40 GMT (UK)
hi jean....just for the record..could you please explain this to me...there is a LEWIS ZZZZ Female babtised 6th march 1634.....does this mean they hadn`t yet chosen a name or is there another explanation....this is on CPRdb parish record for lewis( i am also researching lewis)...thanks...allan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sarra on Friday 28 December 07 05:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
Would appreciate it if you could please see if the following marriage is on CD.
Found this on the IGI, it's a submitted record.

Joseph HAWTHORN - Eliza ROBINSON - married 24 August 1834 Witton, Cheshire England.

Thank you.
Sarra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Friday 28 December 07 10:24 GMT (UK)
hi jean..i suppose this time of year when everyones on a` break` you`re mad busy...when you have time,could you check for Joseph Allcock`s marriage to Martha Coxon ,both born in stockport.their 1st born was in 1835, so i would imagine they married about 1833..joseph was b 1810 and martha in 1805...thanks very much ...allan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 28 December 07 13:41 GMT (UK)
hi jean....just for the record..could you please explain this to me...there is a LEWIS ZZZZ Female babtised 6th march 1634.....does this mean they hadn`t yet chosen a name or is there another explanation....this is on CPRdb parish record for lewis( i am also researching lewis)...thanks...allan

Hi Allan,

ZZZZ mean that the record is unreadable.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 28 December 07 13:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
Would appreciate it if you could please see if the following marriage is on CD.
Found this on the IGI, it's a submitted record.

Joseph HAWTHORN - Eliza ROBINSON - married 24 August 1834 Witton, Cheshire England.

Thank you.
Sarra

Hi Sarra,

The marriage is on the index for 24 August 1834 at Witton, the only extra information from the index is that they were both 19+

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 28 December 07 13:45 GMT (UK)
hi jean..i suppose this time of year when everyones on a` break` you`re mad busy...when you have time,could you check for Joseph Allcock`s marriage to Martha Coxon ,both born in stockport.their 1st born was in 1835, so i would imagine they married about 1833..joseph was b 1810 and martha in 1805...thanks very much ...allan

Hi Allan,

Joseph ALLCOCK married Martha COXON 8 July 1833 at Cheadle.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Friday 28 December 07 14:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Could you possibly check your index for a marriage between Benjamin Jones and Susannah? Think it will be around 1816 and at Stockport.

Thank you,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 28 December 07 15:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Could you possibly check your index for a marriage between Benjamin Jones and Susannah? Think it will be around 1816 and at Stockport.

Thank you,
Pat.

Hi Pat,

Benjamin JONES married Susannah COLBORN 4 June 1815 at Northenden

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Friday 28 December 07 15:32 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean for the very speedy reply,
I think it's mine, I had searched some Stockport records and thought I'd missed it. Susannah had died before 1841 and as Benjamin was born Stockport I thought Susannah would be too. I thought wrong.
Thank you very much,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Friday 28 December 07 21:46 GMT (UK)
thankyou so much jean..you are truly a blessing with the info you conjure up...thanks again and happy new year...regards..allan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sarra on Friday 28 December 07 23:18 GMT (UK)
Jean,
Many thanks for your speedy reply.
Appreciate the extra information (19+).
Sarra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: The Engineer on Saturday 29 December 07 08:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
I wonder if you can shed light on this marriage please?

John PORTER born 1776 in Bradwell, Cheshire.
Wife's name shown as Ellen against children's birth.  No place or date of birth.

First child born 1799 in Moore, Cheshire.

So marriage is POSSIBLY in the Moore, Walton, Daresbury areas.  Could be Bradwell?

Please if you have any possibilities it would be a great help to me!

Kind Regards,
Garry Brookes
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 29 December 07 13:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
I wonder if you can shed light on this marriage please?

John PORTER born 1776 in Bradwell, Cheshire.
Wife's name shown as Ellen against children's birth.  No place or date of birth.

First child born 1799 in Moore, Cheshire.

So marriage is POSSIBLY in the Moore, Walton, Daresbury areas.  Could be Bradwell?

Please if you have any possibilities it would be a great help to me!

Kind Regards,
Garry Brookes

Hi Garry,

There's nothing on the indexes, in fact very few PORTER marriages in Cheshire compared with other surnames.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: The Engineer on Saturday 29 December 07 14:10 GMT (UK)
That's OK Jean.

Just thank you very much for looking, it really is appreciated!   It's great you provide such a look-up service for us.

All the best for the new year, and I hope to solve this particular riddle in 2008.  Perhaps another surname to start researching!!

Cheers,
Garry
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JenClark on Tuesday 01 January 08 02:09 GMT (UK)
Hi guys,

Was wondering if someone could look up the marriage registers for:

Thomas Fletcher (widower) marrying Mary ? in Bunbury between 1800-1837

Joseph Fletcher and Rebecca ? in Bunbury area between 1815-1837

Thanks so much :)

Jenny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 01 January 08 11:50 GMT (UK)
Hi guys,

Was wondering if someone could look up the marriage registers for:

Thomas Fletcher (widower) marrying Mary ? in Bunbury between 1800-1837

Joseph Fletcher and Rebecca ? in Bunbury area between 1815-1837

Thanks so much :)

Jenny

Sorry Jenny, neither marriage is on the indexes.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JenClark on Wednesday 02 January 08 07:24 GMT (UK)
No worries Jean,

Thanks for looking anyway.

Jenny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: richardcampbell on Friday 04 January 08 19:56 GMT (UK)
Hi
I'm looking for as much detail as possible on the marriage of Edward Campbell and Mary Clough on 11th January 1824 in Wilmslow I believe.
All help gratefully received.
Richard
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 05 January 08 09:24 GMT (UK)
Hi
I'm looking for as much detail as possible on the marriage of Edward Campbell and Mary Clough on 11th January 1824 in Wilmslow I believe.
All help gratefully received.
Richard

Hi Richard and welcome to Rootschat.  :)

The resources used for the lookups on here are indexes so there often isn't any more information than you already have.  I can confirm that the marriage is on the index and that the date you have is the same as the one on the index and that it took place at Wilmslow.  With the information you have you could order a copy of the parish register entry from Cheshire Record Office - they charge £1.00 per copy plus postage and are quoting a 15 day turnaround at the moment - they have an online ordering facility.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Saturday 05 January 08 15:21 GMT (UK)
Could you please look up the marriage of John Roberts to Margaret. He was a blacksmith in Willaston.

The first baptism record I 've found for a child of John and Margaret is in 1804 so I suppose they would have been married a little while before that.

I have found a marriage on the IGI for a John Roberts and Margaret Smith in 1813 but it seems a bit late, although they did have triplets in 1817.

Thanks in advance for any info.

French
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Sunday 06 January 08 11:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Can I pester you yet again for another marriage look up?
It's James Mair and Ann? I would think between 1825 and 1830.

Thank you,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 06 January 08 12:49 GMT (UK)
Could you please look up the marriage of John Roberts to Margaret. He was a blacksmith in Willaston.

The first baptism record I 've found for a child of John and Margaret is in 1804 so I suppose they would have been married a little while before that.

I have found a marriage on the IGI for a John Roberts and Margaret Smith in 1813 but it seems a bit late, although they did have triplets in 1817.

Thanks in advance for any info.

French

Hi French,

The closest I can see is this:

John ROBERTS married Margaret MADDOX 16 Feb 1801 at Eastham St Mary by Licence

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 06 January 08 12:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Can I pester you yet again for another marriage look up?
It's James Mair and Ann? I would think between 1825 and 1830.

Thank you,
Pat.

Hi Pat,

James MAIR married Ann EATHCOTE 25 Nov 1827 Cheadle
- maybe HEATHCOTE?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Sunday 06 January 08 13:11 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Jean.
That certainly looks like a possible marriage.
I've had a look on the map and Eastham isn't far from Williaston.

Another question if I may. What does married by licence mean?

Regards

French
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 06 January 08 13:28 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Jean.
That certainly looks like a possible marriage.
I've had a look on the map and Eastham isn't far from Williaston.

Another question if I may. What does married by licence mean?

Regards

French

Hi French,

See here for a description of marriage by licence:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,136860.0.html

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Sunday 06 January 08 14:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean. Have learned something.

French
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Monday 07 January 08 08:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thank you,  it's much appreciated.

Regards
Pat
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hheapet on Saturday 12 January 08 12:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

Looking for marriage of William Mather b1777 Tabley and Hannah Rossbottom. First child I have found was born 1800.

Peter
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 12 January 08 12:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

Looking for marriage of William Mather b1777 Tabley and Hannah Rossbottom. First child I have found was born 1800.

Peter

Hi Peter,

William MATHER m Hannah ROSSBOTTOM 4 Feb 1799 at Great Budworth

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Saturday 12 January 08 13:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

Hope you may be able to help me, I have found a marriage on the IGI site, wondered if you could look it up and see if there was any more info.

George Massey to Elizabeth Smithies July 1813 in Macclesfield, Cheshire.

Thanking you in advance
Joan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Saturday 12 January 08 14:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

May I ask for another lookup, please?

The marriage of William Maddock to  Mary  ? around 1750.

Thanks.

French
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 12 January 08 16:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

Hope you may be able to help me, I have found a marriage on the IGI site, wondered if you could look it up and see if there was any more info.

George Massey to Elizabeth Smithies July 1813 in Macclesfield, Cheshire.

Thanking you in advance
Joan

Hi Joan,

George's occupation is reedmkr - date is 26th Jul 1813 at Stockport not Macclesfield.... :o

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 12 January 08 16:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

May I ask for another lookup, please?

The marriage of William Maddock to  Mary  ? around 1750.

Thanks.

French

Hi French,

Nothing obvious I'm afraid - any idea where?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Saturday 12 January 08 18:24 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking Jean. I've found a birth on the Cheshire Parish Records sight that could be my ancestor.

Samuel Maddock baptised 28/01/1754. Father, William Maddock, mother, Mary. The parish code is DAVN and the residence code is LEFT. I have no idea where that is, those codes are not in the glossary.

The later Maddocks lived in Bebington.

Hope this helps.

French
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Saturday 12 January 08 21:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thank you very much for the information

Joan  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 13 January 08 08:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking Jean. I've found a birth on the Cheshire Parish Records sight that could be my ancestor.

Samuel Maddock baptised 28/01/1754. Father, William Maddock, mother, Mary. The parish code is DAVN and the residence code is LEFT. I have no idea where that is, those codes are not in the glossary.

The later Maddocks lived in Bebington.

Hope this helps.

French

Hi French,

DAVN = Davenham
LEFT = Leftwich

If you go to "P" for parish in the glossary it gives you all the parishes
If you go to "R" for residence in the glossary it gives you all the other placename abbreviations.

There is a marriage for a William MADDOCK to Mary BURROWS/BURROUGHS 18 Feb 1740 at Davenham which might be a match - also from the CPRdb site.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Sunday 13 January 08 10:13 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the information Jean. I really appreciate it.

Regards

French
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: MikeDavies38 on Sunday 13 January 08 19:23 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the marriage of John Bramhall(well) to Hannah? in Lostock Grahlam about 1828.  Any info much appreciated.
Mike
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 13 January 08 20:31 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the marriage of John Bramhall(well) to Hannah? in Lostock Grahlam about 1828.  Any info much appreciated.
Mike

Hi Mike,

This looks like a possible:

John BRAMHALL, bachelor m Hannah POSTLES sp 27 Dec 1821 with consent of parents

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: MikeDavies38 on Monday 14 January 08 19:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean and thanks for the info.  It gives me another avenue to research.  This is my wife's family I am tracing.  We are both Davies but our trees are really well separated even though we originally come from the same village.  Amazing isn't it?
Mike
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jean Sandra on Wednesday 16 January 08 06:16 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for a marriage between a Thomas Wilson and his wife Ann (Nancy) about 1790. 
After their marriage they lived in Weaverham where they had their children.

If anyone could find this couple I would be really grateful.

Regards

Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jean Sandra on Wednesday 16 January 08 06:27 GMT (UK)
Continuing with the family in my previous post, I am at a loss to find the marriage of Alice Wilson and William Dawson between 1861 and 1871.
In the 1861 census Alice was the servant of William, living in Leftwich, but by 1871 she was his wife. At least she was claiming to be his wife. However I can't find the marriage.
If anyone could find the marriage it would be a breakthrough as it has become a bit of a wall for a few years now.
Regards
Jean Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 16 January 08 08:26 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for a marriage between a Thomas Wilson and his wife Ann (Nancy) about 1790. 
After their marriage they lived in Weaverham where they had their children.

If anyone could find this couple I would be really grateful.

Regards

Jean Sandra

Hi Jean Sandra,

The only marriage on the index in the right timescale is this:

Thomas WILSON m Ann WRIGHT 25 May 1790 at Frodsham

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 16 January 08 08:28 GMT (UK)
Continuing with the family in my previous post, I am at a loss to find the marriage of Alice Wilson and William Dawson between 1861 and 1871.
In the 1861 census Alice was the servant of William, living in Leftwich, but by 1871 she was his wife. At least she was claiming to be his wife. However I can't find the marriage.
If anyone could find the marriage it would be a breakthrough as it has become a bit of a wall for a few years now.
Regards
Jean Sandra

Hi Jean Sandra,

You would be best to post this request on the main Cheshire lookup board - not as many people look on this thread and the indexes are for pre 1837 marriages.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jean Sandra on Thursday 17 January 08 14:09 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for your help.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Friday 18 January 08 17:46 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean,

The info. you've already given me regarding my Maddock family has been really helpful.
I now need to find the marriage of Peter Maddock to Elizabeth (probably Shaw or Shawcross). Their first child was born in 1714 in Leftwich, Davenham.

Could you please see if it is in your records?

Regards

French
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 18 January 08 17:52 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean,

The info. you've already given me regarding my Maddock family has been really helpful.
I now need to find the marriage of Peter Maddock to Elizabeth (probably Shaw or Shawcross). Their first child was born in 1714 in Leftwich, Davenham.

Could you please see if it is in your records?

Regards

French

Hi French,

This is on my index and on the CPRdb (http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/) under Peter MADOCK:

Peter MADDOCK m Elizabeth SHAW 28 Jun 1714 at Davenham St Wilfrid

The baptisms of the children are also there, if you just put MAD in the search box both spellings will come up.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Friday 18 January 08 18:27 GMT (UK)
Jean, you're a star.
Many thanks.

French
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: madpants on Sunday 20 January 08 00:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

Would you have a record of Thomas Halkyard marrying Mary Wardle in the Ashton area around 1800-1820 please?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 20 January 08 10:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

Would you have a record of Thomas Halkyard marrying Mary Wardle in the Ashton area around 1800-1820 please?

Hi madpants,

Sorry, the marriage isn't on the index.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: madpants on Sunday 20 January 08 15:50 GMT (UK)
Thank you for looking  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Saturday 26 January 08 09:57 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean,

I'm bothering you again but I'd like to find the following marriages if possible.

John Price to an Ann ?  They had a child, Catherine, in 1752.

William Roberts and Margaret ? I think that their first child was born 1714.

Many thanks

french

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 26 January 08 11:50 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean,

I'm bothering you again but I'd like to find the following marriages if possible.

John Price to an Ann ?  They had a child, Catherine, in 1752.

William Roberts and Margaret ? I think that their first child was born 1714.

Many thanks

french

Hi french,

Closest are:

John PRICE of Tattenhall m Ann BENYON 3 Nov 1754 Tarporley St Helen
William ROBERTS m Margaret FORSHALL 12 Nov 1710 Shotwick St Michael

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: frenchdressing on Saturday 26 January 08 11:56 GMT (UK)
s a lot Jean. The Shotwick one seems very likely.

Regards

French
Title: Darlington Marriage c.1820 Chester
Post by: Lazylover on Sunday 27 January 08 09:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris

Would you be so kind as to look up the marriage of

William Darlington, born c.1800 in Cheshire. Occupation: Joiner  to Ann(e) born c.1796 in Chester.

Their first child, Joseph, was born in Chestesr in 1820. At this time they were living in St. Oswald - Brook Street.

Thanks in advance

LazyL
Title: Re: Darlington Marriage c.1820 Chester
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 27 January 08 11:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris

Would you be so kind as to look up the marriage of

William Darlington, born c.1800 in Cheshire. Occupation: Joiner  to Ann(e) born c.1796 in Chester.

Their first child, Joseph, was born in Chestesr in 1820. At this time they were living in St. Oswald - Brook Street.

Thanks in advance

LazyL

Hi LazyL

Best match is:

William DARLINGTON m Ann RADCLIFFE 30 Sep 1817 Chester St Oswald

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Lazylover on Sunday 27 January 08 17:52 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean

:D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dee321eeD on Saturday 09 February 08 18:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

I'm not sure if your records have Stockport records but if possible I'm trying to find the baptism of a William Welsby born 1840 in Stockport.  His father, I think, is William Welsby also, and he has a brother Joseph born 1844.  Two other possible siblings are John James 1836 and Mary Ann 1838. 

Thank you in advance.

Dee

Whoops sorry just noticed this is marriage records!!  What about a marriage between William Welsby c1835 and a Sarah?    Thank you.

Dee
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 10 February 08 09:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

I'm not sure if your records have Stockport records but if possible I'm trying to find the baptism of a William Welsby born 1840 in Stockport.  His father, I think, is William Welsby also, and he has a brother Joseph born 1844.  Two other possible siblings are John James 1836 and Mary Ann 1838. 

Thank you in advance.

Dee

Whoops sorry just noticed this is marriage records!!  What about a marriage between William Welsby c1835 and a Sarah?    Thank you.

Dee

Hi Dee,

Sorry no baptism records as you guessed!  If you post on the lookup board someone may be able to help.  The closest marriage I can see (not to Sarah though) is this:

William WELSBY m Judith WALKER 18th April 1831 Stockport by licence

Maybe William was married twice?

JEan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 10 February 08 09:22 GMT (UK)
good morning chris....could you please check for me....i have james williamson b 1831 hyde cheshire married margery kay b 1827 penistone yorkshire.(.i would imagine they married in yorkshire)..first born was charlotte walker b 1851....i just might be lucky..did they marry in hyde,cheshire please...thanks for your time...regards,,...allan...........ignore this request chris....its not pre 1837..i`m not awake yet...lol...allan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dee321eeD on Sunday 10 February 08 21:12 GMT (UK)
Hi

Thanks for that Jean, Ill keep that as a maybe, as Welsby only seems to be in that area, about that time very rarely, so this is a good chance it might be the same one.

Dee
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JamesDMcBust on Sunday 10 February 08 22:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
Mary Angell b. 1622 Crowhurst, Surrey married a John Hardware of Peele Hall, Tarvin on 25 November 1655 at St Bride, Fleet St, London.  He died in 1661 in Cheshire and Mary went on to marry John Hockenhull, also of Tarvin, on 11 Sept 1669 at Crowhurst, Surrey.  Mary and John Hardware had a son, Henry, born 1661 (he was 3 month when his father died).

Can you find a marriage for this Henry, or for any other children Mary may have had with John Hockenhull?

Also any chance of identifying the parents of both John's? ;)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 11 February 08 08:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
Mary Angell b. 1622 Crowhurst, Surrey married a John Hardware of Peele Hall, Tarvin on 25 November 1655 at St Bride, Fleet St, London.  He died in 1661 in Cheshire and Mary went on to marry John Hockenhull, also of Tarvin, on 11 Sept 1669 at Crowhurst, Surrey.  Mary and John Hardware had a son, Henry, born 1661 (he was 3 month when his father died).

Can you find a marriage for this Henry, or for any other children Mary may have had with John Hockenhull?

Also any chance of identifying the parents of both John's? ;)

Hi James,

I can't see a marriage for Henry on the index (not complete though) but there is this:

Katherine HARDWARE m Matthew HENERYS 19 Jul 1687 at Tarvin.  There is a note in the comment to say she was "Mrs" so possibly a widow.

The second marriage of Mary to John HOCKENHULL must be in the Tarvin parish register as well as it appears on the index with the same date.  According to your dates Mary would have been 47 at the time of her second marriage so it is probably unlikely that there were any more children.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JamesDMcBust on Monday 11 February 08 21:07 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean for your help.
I know a lot of Tarvin Parish records were lost in a fire in the village in the 1600's and I suspect I won't be able to link all the information I have on the Hardwares.  But I will certainly follow up on Katherine Hardware, you never know.... it could be a cousin of Henry.

Great site. :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Tuesday 12 February 08 16:38 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean

I don't know if you can help me as I don't have much information.

John WRIGHT married a Hannah (unknown) would have been 1815-1819 in Lymm, Cheshire.

ALSO

Joseph JACKSON married Mary (unknown) circa 1822/3 first child born 1824.  High Legh, Cheshire  definately spelt HIGH LEGH and not Leigh.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Joan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 13 February 08 19:08 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean

I don't know if you can help me as I don't have much information.

John WRIGHT married a Hannah (unknown) would have been 1815-1819 in Lymm, Cheshire.

ALSO

Joseph JACKSON married Mary (unknown) circa 1822/3 first child born 1824.  High Legh, Cheshire  definately spelt HIGH LEGH and not Leigh.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Joan

Hi Joan,

Nothing for John WRIGHT and Hannah in the right timescale - the parish records for Lymm are online here at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Closest I can find:

Jos. JACKSON m Mary WILLIAMSON 27 Dec 1814 Rostherne
Jos. JACKSON m Mary PERCIVAL 18 Dec 1820 Cheadle

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Wednesday 13 February 08 20:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Thank you for your time and trouble, it is much appreciated  :)

Joan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Fidgit on Sunday 17 February 08 18:51 GMT (UK)
Hi I have just discovered this site am I right in thinking someone out there can look up a marraige for me?  If so any chance of finding one for Kate Reynolds also previously known as Roberts to Alf Williams probably in Eastham Parish Church somewhere between 1881 and 1886.  Family history tells us that Kate's birth surname was Roberts and she is registered as such on the 1871 Census but she married someone with the surname Reynolds who turned out to be a bigamist so the marraige was void.  However on the 1881 Census she is listed as Reynolds and as a widow.  The children's birth certificates show Roberts and Reynolds both as previous names.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dee321eeD on Sunday 17 February 08 19:08 GMT (UK)
Fidgit have sent pm as well just in case. 

Hi Fidgit

What about this one?  It doesnt have the date but you can at least narrow down the year?

Marriages Mar 1884   
REYNOLDS    Kate    Liverpool    8b   80   
Williams    Alfred         Liverpool    8b   80
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rosndel on Monday 18 February 08 00:10 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am wanting to discover what happened to the family of Thomas and Martha Dean of Bollington, whose children were Nancy born 1790, James born 1792, William born 1794, Mary born 1796, Betty born 1798, and Thomas born 1801. They were all born in Bollington and baptized at Pott Shrigley Chapelry.

I am wondering whether any of the above names might appear on the indexes as being married at Prestbury St Peter between about 1810 to registration in 1837.

If this is too big an ask I will understand - but I would appreciate any input. Thank you.

Rosndel

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 18 February 08 08:06 GMT (UK)
Hi I have just discovered this site am I right in thinking someone out there can look up a marraige for me?  If so any chance of finding one for Kate Reynolds also previously known as Roberts to Alf Williams probably in Eastham Parish Church somewhere between 1881 and 1886.  Family history tells us that Kate's birth surname was Roberts and she is registered as such on the 1871 Census but she married someone with the surname Reynolds who turned out to be a bigamist so the marraige was void.  However on the 1881 Census she is listed as Reynolds and as a widow.  The children's birth certificates show Roberts and Reynolds both as previous names.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Fidgit and welcome to Rootschat,

The marriage that Dee posted is also on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk giving the Church:

Kate REYNOLDS m Alfred WILLIAMS 1884 Our Lady & St Nicholas & St Anne

I'd suggest that you post on the Lancashire board if you want any more information on the marriage and I'm sure someone will be able to help you.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Fidgit on Monday 18 February 08 11:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks I will see if I can find out any more I just wonder why two people living on the Wirral would marry in Liverpool.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 18 February 08 17:32 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am wanting to discover what happened to the family of Thomas and Martha Dean of Bollington, whose children were Nancy born 1790, James born 1792, William born 1794, Mary born 1796, Betty born 1798, and Thomas born 1801. They were all born in Bollington and baptized at Pott Shrigley Chapelry.

I am wondering whether any of the above names might appear on the indexes as being married at Prestbury St Peter between about 1810 to registration in 1837.

If this is too big an ask I will understand - but I would appreciate any input. Thank you.

Rosndel

Hi rosndel,

There are pages of DEAN marriages and it isn't possible for me to search by parish.  Why don't you see if any of the males can be found individually on the 1851 census as a starting point - just post on the main lookup board.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 18 February 08 17:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks I will see if I can find out any more I just wonder why two people living on the Wirral would marry in Liverpool.

Hi Fidgit,

It was quite common for people from Wirral to marry in Liverpool for various reasons.  There was another thread about this recently, here is the link:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,212344.0.html

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: avbeck on Friday 22 February 08 18:47 GMT (UK)
Dear Peter,
I just found your reply to Godfrey about the marriage of George Peake and Mary Newton in Astbury December 1822.  Does it specifically give her maiden name as Newton???
You mention that it was in the Bertram Merril index of  marriages.  What is that???  Tell me how I can use that as a source for the marriage???
I would appreciate any info you can give me.  I am new to rootschat so I am just trying to find my way around. 
Alane
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rosndel on Friday 22 February 08 22:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thanks for your reply to my Dean request. I have access to the 1851 census without any joy in finding my names. None of them admit to being born in Bollington anyway.

I have a copy of Bertram Merrill and Phillimore, but is there some other CD I could buy that would enable me to search for marriages in Prestbury Parish? Thank you for your time.

Rosndel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 22 February 08 23:07 GMT (UK)
Dear Peter,
I just found your reply to Godfrey about the marriage of George Peake and Mary Newton in Astbury December 1822.  Does it specifically give her maiden name as Newton???
You mention that it was in the Bertram Merril index of  marriages.  What is that???  Tell me how I can use that as a source for the marriage???
I would appreciate any info you can give me.  I am new to rootschat so I am just trying to find my way around. 
Alane

Hi Alane and a warm welcome to Rootschat,

There are a couple of indexes to marriages for the Cheshire area that have been published on CD by the Cheshire Family History Society.   They are an index only so don't give the full details of the parish register entry but do give the date and the church so that you know where to look.  None of them are complete, coverage of some parishes is better than others so it very much depends where your research is.  The entry you are looking at has:

George PEAK, bricklayer m Mary NEWTON p. Sw 23 Dec 1822 Astbury.

I don't know what p. Sw means after Mary's name, p is probably for parish indicating that she wasn't from Astbury.

You could contact Cheshire Records Office for the details of the entry, or order a photocopy for a small fee, their website is: http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/recoff/home.htm

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: arkay on Friday 22 February 08 23:22 GMT (UK)
Hello!

My ggg-grandparents, James TRAVIS and Elizabeth (or Betty) WILD were married in Mottram in Longendale on 8 Oct 1825.  I was wondering if the parish register shows names of witnesses or any additional details at all? 

Thanks in advance,

Arkay
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: avbeck on Saturday 23 February 08 04:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
Thank you so much for responding to my post.  I appreciate knowing about the indexes to marriages for the Cheshire area.  I have lots of family that come from Cheshire so that will be a great help.  I think the "p. Sw" meant that she was from Swettenham. 

You have been a great help thank you so much!!
Alane
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 23 February 08 09:00 GMT (UK)
Hello!

My ggg-grandparents, James TRAVIS and Elizabeth (or Betty) WILD were married in Mottram in Longendale on 8 Oct 1825.  I was wondering if the parish register shows names of witnesses or any additional details at all? 

Thanks in advance,

Arkay

Hi Arkay,

The entry on the index doesn't contain any more information.  The parish register will contain witnesses at the very least, although they may not be related.  If you contact Cheshire Records Office (website: http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/recoff/home.htm) they would be able to provide a copy of the parish register entry for a small fee, and you can order online.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 23 February 08 09:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thanks for your reply to my Dean request. I have access to the 1851 census without any joy in finding my names. None of them admit to being born in Bollington anyway.

I have a copy of Bertram Merrill and Phillimore, but is there some other CD I could buy that would enable me to search for marriages in Prestbury Parish? Thank you for your time.

Rosndel

Hi Rosndel,

There is another CD available from Cheshire FHS which is the NECMI (North & East Cheshire Marriage Index).  The coverage of marriages for Prestbury is complete from 1754 to 1837.  However, try here: http://www.rootschat.com/links/02s4/ - the lds have digitised some Cheshire parish records and Prestbury is amongst them but I don't know what dates are covered.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: arkay on Saturday 23 February 08 17:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction!  I will contact the Cheshire Records Office.

Arkay

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hheapet on Monday 25 February 08 09:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
Your help needed please. I am looking for the marriage of Robert Boffey and Sarah Boffey. Robert first married Catherine Boffey (sister) in 1824 and they had 2 children (1824 and 1826). Not sure when Catherine died but the first baby registered with Sarah was 1833. They lived in the Sanbach area.

cheers,

Peter
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 25 February 08 21:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
Your help needed please. I am looking for the marriage of Robert Boffey and Sarah Boffey. Robert first married Catherine Boffey (sister) in 1824 and they had 2 children (1824 and 1826). Not sure when Catherine died but the first baby registered with Sarah was 1833. They lived in the Sanbach area.

cheers,
Peter

Hi Peter,

Robert BOFFEY, farmer m Catherine MORRIS, sp 1 Jul 1824 at Sandbach
Robert BOFFEY p. Sandbach m Sarah MORRIS 6 Jun 1831 Astbury by Licence

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hheapet on Monday 25 February 08 21:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean you are a diamond.

Peter
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Tuesday 26 February 08 14:43 GMT (UK)
Hi I would like a lookup, but I am not sure if you can help. I am looking for the marriage between Samuel Threlfall and Mary ?? in Cheshire (sorry , don't know where) c 1825. First child bc 1828. Thanks for your anticipated help.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 26 February 08 18:00 GMT (UK)
Hi I would like a lookup, but I am not sure if you can help. I am looking for the marriage between Samuel Threlfall and Mary ?? in Cheshire (sorry , don't know where) c 1825. First child bc 1828. Thanks for your anticipated help.

Hi sigrid7,

A warm welcome to Rootschat

No marriage on the indexes (but they are not complete), do you know where the first child was born or have any census information for the family?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Paulychops on Tuesday 26 February 08 19:26 GMT (UK)
Hi - I'm looking for the marriage of George Steen & Jane Taylor somewhere in Birkenhead around 1830. Any info gratefully received!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pepsi62 on Tuesday 26 February 08 19:57 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I am trying to find the marriage of William Houlding to Elizabeth about 1755 to 1783, possibly at Wybunbury.
They lived at Gorsty Hill after marriage which is in the parish of Wybunbury - but it is also close to Barthomley and even closer to Betley which is in Staffs.

Peter
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Sandra Parker on Tuesday 26 February 08 23:19 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find the marriage of William Small. Unfortunately I don't have any name at all for his wife, but his known children were Mary Sophia Small (1834-1896), Eliza Small (1848-?), Elizabeth Small (1842-?)and Martha Louisa Small (1844-?) Sophia figures as a middle name a few times in the family, so maybe there is a clue in those names as this family seemed to stick to the name the kids after the parents etc like most other families!
The family is associated with the Cheadle area of Cheshire.
Many thanks
Sandra  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Wednesday 27 February 08 18:27 GMT (UK)
Hi I would like a lookup, but I am not sure if you can help. I am looking for the marriage between Samuel Threlfall and Mary ?? in Cheshire (sorry , don't know where) c 1825. First child bc 1828. Thanks for your anticipated help.

Hi sigrid7,

A warm welcome to Rootschat

No marriage on the indexes (but they are not complete), do you know where the first child was born or have any census information for the family?

Jean


Hi, all I know is that Samuel was bc1806 Cheshire, and his wife Mary bc 1806 also Cheshire. From 1841 census first child Margaret bc 1828 Cheshire, then Richard bc1832 cheshire, Mary bc 1836 cheshire, and my direct ancestor John Threlfall bc 1830, stated on subsequent census as born Budworth. He actually married in Manchester 1854. All I have re birth place is Cheshire for Samuel and Mary. Hope you can help, thanks very much.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 27 February 08 18:28 GMT (UK)
Hi - I'm looking for the marriage of George Steen & Jane Taylor somewhere in Birkenhead around 1830. Any info gratefully received!

Sorry, nothing for George Steen and Jane Taylor on the indexes.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 27 February 08 18:36 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I am trying to find the marriage of William Houlding to Elizabeth about 1755 to 1783, possibly at Wybunbury.
They lived at Gorsty Hill after marriage which is in the parish of Wybunbury - but it is also close to Barthomley and even closer to Betley which is in Staffs.

Peter

Hi Peter,

Wybunbury parish records are online at: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ and are complete up to c1870 so you can probably eliminate it.

There is this marriage that might be connected, but nothing else on the index:

William HOLDING, p Wybunbury, widwr m Sarah PAGE p Tat 28 Oct 1807 Tattenhill, Staffs by licence

Jean

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 27 February 08 18:39 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find the marriage of William Small. Unfortunately I don't have any name at all for his wife, but his known children were Mary Sophia Small (1834-1896), Eliza Small (1848-?), Elizabeth Small (1842-?)and Martha Louisa Small (1844-?) Sophia figures as a middle name a few times in the family, so maybe there is a clue in those names as this family seemed to stick to the name the kids after the parents etc like most other families!
The family is associated with the Cheadle area of Cheshire.
Many thanks
Sandra  :)

Hi Sandra,

Possibles:

William SMALL, Weaver m Elizabeth ALLCOCK 4 Jul 1814 Stockport
William SMALL, Weaver, widwr m Mary Ann PEARSON 13 Aug 1822 Stockport
Wm SMALL m Nancy PLATT p Wilmslow 2 Feb 1833 Cheadle

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Wednesday 27 February 08 18:47 GMT (UK)
Hi I would like a lookup, but I am not sure if you can help. I am looking for the marriage between Samuel Threlfall and Mary ?? in Cheshire (sorry , don't know where) c 1825. First child bc 1828. Thanks for your anticipated help.

Hi sigrid7,

A warm welcome to Rootschat

No marriage on the indexes (but they are not complete), do you know where the first child was born or have any census information for the family?

Jean


Hi, all I know is that Samuel was bc1806 Cheshire, and his wife Mary bc 1806 also Cheshire. From 1841 census first child Margaret bc 1828 Cheshire, then Richard bc1832 cheshire, Mary bc 1836 cheshire, and my direct ancestor John Threlfall bc 1830, stated on subsequent census as born Budworth. He actually married in Manchester 1854. All I have re birth place is Cheshire for Samuel and Mary. Hope you can help, thanks very much.


Hi, if possible I would also like help with the marriage of Joseph Mellor and Elizabeth ??? m1833 Bunbury. Joseph bc 1815 Bickley and Elizabeth bc 1811 Peckforton, Cheshire. I would like to know her surname and any other possible information if available. (I take it that the names underneath your reply refer to names in your tree? If so, I also have Gurneys in my tree.)  Thanks very much.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 27 February 08 18:47 GMT (UK)
Hi, all I know is that Samuel was bc1806 Cheshire, and his wife Mary bc 1806 also Cheshire. From 1841 census first child Margaret bc 1828 Cheshire, then Richard bc1832 cheshire, Mary bc 1836 cheshire, and my direct ancestor John Threlfall bc 1830, stated on subsequent census as born Budworth. He actually married in Manchester 1854. All I have re birth place is Cheshire for Samuel and Mary. Hope you can help, thanks very much.

Do you have any of the family on other census records apart from 1841?  If you have John on the 1851 do you have the census reference?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Sandra Parker on Wednesday 27 February 08 18:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
Thank you for that. It is so great to have help like this from others on the forum, as I'd never be able to find it myself from here.
So now you have given me a few needles, I'm off to find the haystack!
Sandra
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Wednesday 27 February 08 18:59 GMT (UK)
Hi, all I know is that Samuel was bc1806 Cheshire, and his wife Mary bc 1806 also Cheshire. From 1841 census first child Margaret bc 1828 Cheshire, then Richard bc1832 cheshire, Mary bc 1836 cheshire, and my direct ancestor John Threlfall bc 1830, stated on subsequent census as born Budworth. He actually married in Manchester 1854. All I have re birth place is Cheshire for Samuel and Mary. Hope you can help, thanks very much.

Do you have any of the family on other census records apart from 1841?  If you have John on the 1851 do you have the census reference?

Jean

Hi, I have son John on 51 as a servant,  HO107 piece 2161 Folio 435 p8      on 61 he is  with his family again, with his widowed mother Mary Trelfa and 2 sisters, states she, Mary,was born in Bickerton, c1804/ RG9 4279 125 p9. So by now Samuel had died. Does this help?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pepsi62 on Wednesday 27 February 08 19:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
Re. William Houlding & Elizabeth - there's interesting.
Elizabeth died in 1806 so it is quite possible that William married again in 1807.
William died in 1826 and is buried at Betley with first wife Elizabeth.
Thanks for that - I will need to keep searching for William and Elizabeth's marriage. Also now need to find 2nd wife Sarah.

Peter
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: nins on Sunday 02 March 08 13:18 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I was wondering if you could look up the following for me, i'm not sure if they were married in cheshire or lancashire but if you could let me know if they come up in cheshire that would be brilliant!

Pietro Gaspare Bordessa born c. 1800
Elizabeth ? born c. 1806

Pietro's name was often misspelt so if you could also look for alternatives such as:
Peter
Gasper
Gaspar
Bordesa
Bordefa
Bordeffa

I'm afraid i don't know Elizabeth's surname.

Another marriage I'm looking for is between William James Bordessa and Jane Taylor. I dont know any dates for this one however.


Thank you for any help you can offer,

Cheers

Nina
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Sunday 02 March 08 13:52 GMT (UK)
Hi, if possible could you look for the following?

Samuel Threlfall m Mary ??, both bc 1806 Cheshire, first child Margaret bc 1828 Cheshire. Sorry I can't be more specific, that's all I know.

Joseph Mellor m Elizabeth ?? 1833 Bunbury.
Joseph bc 1815, Bickley and Elizabeth bc1811 Peckforton.

Thanks very much
sigrid7
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 03 March 08 17:20 GMT (UK)
Hi, if possible could you look for the following?

Samuel Threlfall m Mary ??, both bc 1806 Cheshire, first child Margaret bc 1828 Cheshire. Sorry I can't be more specific, that's all I know.

Joseph Mellor m Elizabeth ?? 1833 Bunbury.
Joseph bc 1815, Bickley and Elizabeth bc1811 Peckforton.

Thanks very much
sigrid7

Hi Sigrid,

I've checked the indexes for both marriages but nothing showing I'm afraid.  I've also had a good look at the census to see if I could see Samuel and Mary Threlfall in 1851 but no luck with that either - checked under Trelfa as well.  I'd suggest that you post on the main lookup board for an 1851 lookup for Samuel and Mary - more people look there so we've a better chance of them being found.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 03 March 08 17:33 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I was wondering if you could look up the following for me, i'm not sure if they were married in cheshire or lancashire but if you could let me know if they come up in cheshire that would be brilliant!

Pietro Gaspare Bordessa born c. 1800
Elizabeth ? born c. 1806

Pietro's name was often misspelt so if you could also look for alternatives such as:
Peter
Gasper
Gaspar
Bordesa
Bordefa
Bordeffa

I'm afraid i don't know Elizabeth's surname.

Another marriage I'm looking for is between William James Bordessa and Jane Taylor. I dont know any dates for this one however.

Thank you for any help you can offer,
Cheers
Nina

Hi Nina and a warm welcome to Rootschat,

I've checked the indexes for Pietro's marriage, but there is nothing close to Bordessa as a surname.  Most of the indexes cover Anglican churches only, perhaps they were Catholic or non Conformist.

However, there is a marriage on www.cheshirebmd.org.uk:

William J BORDESSA m Jane TAYLOR Chester Civil Marriage 1849
And:
Mariea M BORDESSA m John R O'HAGAN Chester Civil Marriage 1858

You would need to send for the certificates to get the details either by post from the Local Register Office via the above site, or from the GRO using the reference from www.freebmd.org.uk (Mar 1849 Gt Boughton 19 69)

Hope this helps,

Jean

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Monday 03 March 08 19:19 GMT (UK)
Hi, if possible could you look for the following?

Samuel Threlfall m Mary ??, both bc 1806 Cheshire, first child Margaret bc 1828 Cheshire. Sorry I can't be more specific, that's all I know.

Joseph Mellor m Elizabeth ?? 1833 Bunbury.
Joseph bc 1815, Bickley and Elizabeth bc1811 Peckforton.

Thanks very much
sigrid7

Hi Sigrid,

I've checked the indexes for both marriages but nothing showing I'm afraid.  I've also had a good look at the census to see if I could see Samuel and Mary Threlfall in 1851 but no luck with that either - checked under Trelfa as well.  I'd suggest that you post on the main lookup board for an 1851 lookup for Samuel and Mary - more people look there so we've a better chance of them being found.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help,

Jean

Hi thanks very much for looking. I will try and find the general board and post there, as you suggest.

Thanks again,
sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: nins on Tuesday 04 March 08 09:05 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I was wondering if you could look up the following for me, i'm not sure if they were married in cheshire or lancashire but if you could let me know if they come up in cheshire that would be brilliant!

Pietro Gaspare Bordessa born c. 1800
Elizabeth ? born c. 1806

Pietro's name was often misspelt so if you could also look for alternatives such as:
Peter
Gasper
Gaspar
Bordesa
Bordefa
Bordeffa

I'm afraid i don't know Elizabeth's surname.

Another marriage I'm looking for is between William James Bordessa and Jane Taylor. I dont know any dates for this one however.

Thank you for any help you can offer,
Cheers
Nina

Hi Nina and a warm welcome to Rootschat,

I've checked the indexes for Pietro's marriage, but there is nothing close to Bordessa as a surname.  Most of the indexes cover Anglican churches only, perhaps they were Catholic or non Conformist.

However, there is a marriage on www.cheshirebmd.org.uk:

William J BORDESSA m Jane TAYLOR Chester Civil Marriage 1849
And:
Mariea M BORDESSA m John R O'HAGAN Chester Civil Marriage 1858

You would need to send for the certificates to get the details either by post from the Local Register Office via the above site, or from the GRO using the reference from www.freebmd.org.uk (Mar 1849 Gt Boughton 19 69)

Hope this helps,

Jean



Hi Jean,

Thank you for trying for me, much appreciated! Yes they were quite possibly catholic as Pietro came over to the uk from Italy.

and thank you for the other two, they were his children! i'll have to have a look at those websites and see what else i can find!

thank you,

Nina
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bbstport on Wednesday 19 March 08 10:19 GMT (UK)
hi there, what a nice gesture
can you pls look  up 2 marriages for me my gt grandad
bartholomew  (arthur) horan age abt 24 to jane mcloughlin in 1894

my gt gt grandad
michael horan to ann collins he was approx 23 and married 1866 i think

church for both st phillip and st james edgeley, stockport
i know this church was desecrated in the late 80s and then moved and became our lady and the apostles again in edgeley stockport
many thanks in advance
belinda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 19 March 08 19:39 GMT (UK)
hi there, what a nice gesture
can you pls look  up 2 marriages for me my gt grandad
bartholomew  (arthur) horan age abt 24 to jane mcloughlin in 1894

my gt gt grandad
michael horan to ann collins he was approx 23 and married 1866 i think

church for both st phillip and st james edgeley, stockport
i know this church was desecrated in the late 80s and then moved and became our lady and the apostles again in edgeley stockport
many thanks in advance
belinda

Hi belinda,

This thread is for marriages pre 1837 as the others can often be found on the indexes:
Local Registrar index for Cheshire: www.cheshirebmd.org.uk
General index (UK wide) www.freebmd.org.uk

Neither are 100% complete, but they are pretty close.

Michael HORAN married Ann COLLINS 1866 Stockport Civil Marriage - from www.cheshirebmd.org.uk

However I can't see a marriage for your gt grandfather.  To get more information you would need to send for the certificate - you can use the form to apply by post on the local site or apply online using the information from www.freebmd.org.uk.

Hope this is of some help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hheapet on Friday 21 March 08 16:23 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I am looking for the marriage date of William Morris b1776 Sandbach and Hannah (Brindley?) b1877 Sandbach.
Any help much appreciated.

Peter ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 21 March 08 18:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Peter,

Wm MORRIS, lab aged 20 m Hannah BRINDLEY aged 26 - 28 Dec 1813 at Sandbach

But that puts his birth at 1796 and hers at 1787?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cwelli on Saturday 22 March 08 18:23 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I'm not sure if my couple got married in Cheshire but as Kate is from Frodsham it's worth a try please.
I'm afraid I don't know her surname
Kate  ??? born abt 1821 in Frodsham
married
John Hall 1813 - 1868, he was from Dewsbury
their eldest child was born in 1845 so I guess they would have married around 1844.
Any ideas gratefully received!!
Carol
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bbstport on Saturday 22 March 08 19:01 GMT (UK)
thanks for thaat jean
b
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 23 March 08 09:13 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I'm not sure if my couple got married in Cheshire but as Kate is from Frodsham it's worth a try please.
I'm afraid I don't know her surname
Kate  ??? born abt 1821 in Frodsham
married
John Hall 1813 - 1868, he was from Dewsbury
their eldest child was born in 1845 so I guess they would have married around 1844.
Any ideas gratefully received!!
Carol

Hi Carol,

As they married after Civil Registration you can have a look on www.cheshirebmd.org.uk (local index) or www.freebmd.org.uk (general index).  I can't see anything on Cheshire, but there are 18 marriages of a John HALL where there is also a Catherine on the same page.  I think your best course of action would be to send off for the birth certificate of one of the children so that you can be sure of Kate/Catherine's maiden name.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Thursday 27 March 08 16:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

May I request one more look up please?

Catherine PRICE married James NEWTON on 31st December 1809 in the Parish of Wynbunbury, Cheshire.  I think Catherine's father was Richard PRICE.

Could you possibly check to see if there is any more information shown?

Thanking you in advance
Joan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 27 March 08 21:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

May I request one more look up please?

Catherine PRICE married James NEWTON on 31st December 1809 in the Parish of Wynbunbury, Cheshire.  I think Catherine's father was Richard PRICE.

Could you possibly check to see if there is any more information shown?

Thanking you in advance
Joan

Hi Joan,

A full transcription of the Wybunbury parish records is available here:
http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

This will have everything that you can see on the original.

The groom was from Barthomley, both signed with an X, the marriage was by banns and cert (I don't know what the certificate would be needed for, it's probably worth a question on the Common Room board).  Witnesses were John Tomkinson and John Hayes.  If you do a couple of searches of common names and check the same period you will probably be able to work out if the witnesses were family or worked for the parish (parish clerk etc).

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Thursday 27 March 08 23:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Once again, thank you ever so much. 

Joan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Butlerclan on Tuesday 01 April 08 20:30 BST (UK)
Hello Chris in 1066land

Does your marriage source have marriages for four of my OSBALDISTON ancestors.  This name variously appears as OSBERSON, OSBORNSON, OSBERESON, ETC.,  have you a Robert marrying a Margaret circa 1735, RAPHE marrying Margaret circa 1729, Thomas marrying an Anna circa 1773 and Raphe marrying Mary circa 1798 please?

Many thanks
Butlerclan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 01 April 08 22:28 BST (UK)
Hi Butlerclan,

I can't see anything under any of the possible spellings, do you know where in Cheshire they might have married?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Biko on Friday 04 April 08 12:39 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Would be grateful if you could look up a Joseph Worrall for me. Unfortunately that is all I have, other then his son Peter Worrall was born about 1819-23c in Kingsley, Cheshire. So my Joseph is probably from that area also.

Grateful for anything you can provide

Marjie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Friday 04 April 08 18:40 BST (UK)
 :)Hi,

I was wondering if you would also do a look up for me please?

Thomas Mellor married Mary Ashley 20/4/1770 St Michael, Middlewich, Cheshire. 

I don't know if any more information is recorded on the records, but hoping that there might be  :)

thanks very much,
regards,
sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 05 April 08 11:26 BST (UK)
:)Hi,

I was wondering if you would also do a look up for me please?

Thomas Mellor married Mary Ashley 20/4/1770 St Michael, Middlewich, Cheshire. 

I don't know if any more information is recorded on the records, but hoping that there might be  :)

thanks very much,
regards,
sigrid

Hi Sigrid,

There are a couple of indexes to marriages for the Cheshire area that have been published on CD by the Cheshire Family History Society.   They are an index only so don't give the full details of the parish register entry but do give the date and the church so that you know where to look and sometimes a little more information than IGI.  The info for the marriage your are looking for shows:

Thos MELLOR, Husbmn P. Cop m Mary ASHLEY Sp. 30 Apr 1770 at Middlewich.

I suspect that Thomas was from another parish (maybe Coppenhall?). 

You could contact Cheshire Records Office for the details of the entry, or order a photocopy for a small fee, their website is: http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/recoff/home.htm

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 05 April 08 11:29 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Would be grateful if you could look up a Joseph Worrall for me. Unfortunately that is all I have, other then his son Peter Worrall was born about 1819-23c in Kingsley, Cheshire. So my Joseph is probably from that area also.

Grateful for anything you can provide

Marjie

Hi Marjie,

I've checked on the indexes but can't see the marriage you are looking for.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Saturday 05 April 08 18:13 BST (UK)
Re Mellor marriage,

Fantastic -  thank you so much. There are a few more snippets of information for me now. :D

But I am not sure what 'husbmn' is, perhaps husbandry man ???

thanks again
 regards
sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 06 April 08 08:56 BST (UK)
Re Mellor marriage,

Fantastic -  thank you so much. There are a few more snippets of information for me now. :D

But I am not sure what 'husbmn' is, perhaps husbandry man ???

thanks again
 regards
sigrid

Hi Sigrid,

It's husbandman, a tenant farmer - see here for more information:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,181403.0.html

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Sunday 06 April 08 16:42 BST (UK)
Thanks very much for the information - I was nearly there with my thinking ;)  so glad I have it right now - husbandman!

regards and thanks again,
sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: nottsnanna11 on Saturday 12 April 08 15:07 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Do you have any information on the marriage of Aaron Broadbent and Lucy Linney?  I believe this marriage would have been in the mid 1820's, the first child I am aware of was baptised in Mottram in Longdendale 23/5/1827, and there were at least 7 other children, all baptised in the same place.  Both Aaron and Lucy were also baptised in Mottram in Longdendale in 1803 and 1806 respectively.

Any info would be much appreciated.

Anne
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 12 April 08 16:25 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Please will you see if there is a marriage for a Richard Whittaker to a Susannah (first child probably born around 1812) and also one for a Richard Whittaker to an Elizabeth Moors (first child born around 1831).  I did find one on Familysearch.org for an Edmund Whittaker to an Elizabeth Moors, at Manchester Cathedral.  That was interesting as the name Edmund seems to crop up in the family.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 12 April 08 16:40 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Do you have any information on the marriage of Aaron Broadbent and Lucy Linney?  I believe this marriage would have been in the mid 1820's, the first child I am aware of was baptised in Mottram in Longdendale 23/5/1827, and there were at least 7 other children, all baptised in the same place.  Both Aaron and Lucy were also baptised in Mottram in Longdendale in 1803 and 1806 respectively.

Any info would be much appreciated.

Anne

Hi Anne,

Aaron BROADBENT m Lucy LINNEY 12 Jun 1826 at Cheadle

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 12 April 08 16:44 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Please will you see if there is a marriage for a Richard Whittaker to a Susannah (first child probably born around 1812) and also one for a Richard Whittaker to an Elizabeth Moors (first child born around 1831).  I did find one on Familysearch.org for an Edmund Whittaker to an Elizabeth Moors, at Manchester Cathedral.  That was interesting as the name Edmund seems to crop up in the family.

Lizzie

Hi Lizzie,

Rich WHITTAKER, Hatter m Susanna MOSS, sp, 28 Jun 1795 Stockport
Richard WHITAKER m Betty MOORS 22 Feb 1830 at Stockport

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: nottsnanna11 on Saturday 12 April 08 17:18 BST (UK)
Thanks Chris, you're a star!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 12 April 08 19:09 BST (UK)
Thanks Jean

That's brilliant.  It's my husband's family and I know  they originally came from the Romiley area which came under Stockport.  Also they were hatters.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Sunday 13 April 08 11:38 BST (UK)
Hi, if possible, can you look for a marriage for me?

Thomas Mellor married Elizabeth  ??? c 1747 ish. Sorry I can't be more specific. 1st known child bapt feb 1751 in Astbury Cheshire.

Thanks very much,
regards,
sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 13 April 08 13:18 BST (UK)
Hi Sigrid,

The only one that would fit is:

Thomas MELLOR m Eliz WAKEFIELD 7 Jun 1748 at Barthomley St Bertoline.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: BFW on Sunday 13 April 08 17:13 BST (UK)
Chris I have very little information for you but just might luck out.

On August 22, 1858 Ahasuerus Kirkpatrick married Mary Bamforth at St. John's Church in the parish of Stockport.   His father was Henry Kirkpatrick (miner) and her father was Joseph Bamforth (weaver).  Do you have a marriage on either father that I may find their spouses names?

Barb
Canada
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Candolim_Imp on Sunday 13 April 08 19:17 BST (UK)
I would love a bit of help on a probable Cheshire marriage before 1804. John Roberts' marriage to Fanny. Fanny was born in Neston, Cheshire, as were at least 2 of their eldest children (William being the eldest known child born 1803/04 in Neston). They later moved to Tarbock, Lancs where their younger children were born.

I'd very much appreciate any help with this, as I can't locate St Mary's records online.

Impy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 13 April 08 21:35 BST (UK)
Chris I have very little information for you but just might luck out.

On August 22, 1858 Ahasuerus Kirkpatrick married Mary Bamforth at St. John's Church in the parish of Stockport.   His father was Henry Kirkpatrick (miner) and her father was Joseph Bamforth (weaver).  Do you have a marriage on either father that I may find their spouses names?

Barb
Canada

Hi Barb,

Can't see anything obvious, have you tried posting on the lookup board for the 1851 and 1841 census?  It might just give a little more to go on....

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 13 April 08 21:40 BST (UK)
I would love a bit of help on a probable Cheshire marriage before 1804. John Roberts' marriage to Fanny. Fanny was born in Neston, Cheshire, as were at least 2 of their eldest children (William being the eldest known child born 1803/04 in Neston). They later moved to Tarbock, Lancs where their younger children were born.

I'd very much appreciate any help with this, as I can't locate St Mary's records online.

Impy

Hi Impy,

The Neston parish records are online here:

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

The site has full transcriptions of the parish records up to 1871.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Monday 14 April 08 13:32 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

 :D thanks very much for the marriage details, I think it will be correct as I have looked up the location.

Without your help, I wouldn't have the wife's surname, to research further, so grateful for your time and help. :)

regards,
sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Monday 14 April 08 13:51 BST (UK)
Hi,  can I have another lookup please ???

Thanks to your help, I have a possible further generation re my last post. From IGI I have a bapt of Eliz. Wakefield, 1721, Astbury. Parents JOANNIS (John ???) Wakefield and Elizabeth. No other children on IGI, but could you have a quick look for a marriage between Joannis/John Wakefield and Elizabeth, c1718?

Much appreciated!

sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 14 April 08 17:16 BST (UK)
Hi,  can I have another lookup please ???

Thanks to your help, I have a possible further generation re my last post. From IGI I have a bapt of Eliz. Wakefield, 1721, Astbury. Parents JOANNIS (John ???) Wakefield and Elizabeth. No other children on IGI, but could you have a quick look for a marriage between Joannis/John Wakefield and Elizabeth, c1718?

Much appreciated!

sigrid

Hi Sigrid,

Sorry, nothing that early I'm afraid - the indexes are much thinner on the ground pre 1757 - although sometimes you can get lucky!  :).

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 14 April 08 17:22 BST (UK)
I would love a bit of help on a probable Cheshire marriage before 1804. John Roberts' marriage to Fanny. Fanny was born in Neston, Cheshire, as were at least 2 of their eldest children (William being the eldest known child born 1803/04 in Neston). They later moved to Tarbock, Lancs where their younger children were born.

I'd very much appreciate any help with this, as I can't locate St Mary's records online.

Impy

Hi Impy,

Further to my last post I have found this:

John ROBERTS m Frances HOPLEY 1798 Plemstall St Peter - sorry, for some reason the full date isn't on the index, but hope it is of some help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Candolim_Imp on Tuesday 15 April 08 16:32 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for that, Jean... as you probably discovered, there is no record of John & Frances marrying in Neston, so this 1798 marriage looks like a good avenue to follow up on.

Impy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Candolim_Imp on Tuesday 15 April 08 16:49 BST (UK)
Just doing a little more searching on that, and found that John Roberts & Frances Hopley baptised 4 children in Liverpool between 1802 & 1811 (and possibly later, but no maiden name listed on others). As I have Neston listed as the birthplace of 4 children of my couple in 1804, 1809, 1812 & 1815 (the last being listed in the church records, the others from census returns), it seems unlikely that mine are from the Roberts/Hopley marriage.

Impy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Tuesday 15 April 08 18:18 BST (UK)
Thanks very much, Jean, I appreciate you looking for me. I got lucky with the first record you found, so pleased with that. :)

regards,
sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 16 April 08 08:01 BST (UK)
good morning jean...could you check 2 records for me please....the first is the spelling of the marriage in Neston  abt 1763 of the brides surname..Edward Standish to Mary Frances or Francis...the second is the marriage of Marys parents in about 1738( i think  in neston) of Thomas Frances/Francis to Ann ?thanks very much for your time...Allan :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: pauldurham131 on Wednesday 16 April 08 10:07 BST (UK)
Hi
 Do the records cover Eastham/Bromborough on the Wirral if so could you give me any info you have on the Nicholls/Nichols families and their marriages in the 17th and 18th Centuries
   
                   Many Thanks
                                 Paul 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 16 April 08 17:29 BST (UK)
Hi
 Do the records cover Eastham/Bromborough on the Wirral if so could you give me any info you have on the Nicholls/Nichols families and their marriages in the 17th and 18th Centuries
   
                   Many Thanks
                                 Paul 

Hi Paul,

I'm sorry, I can't do blanket searches for a specific surname - can you let me know who you are looking for and a rough idea of the date?  The Bromborough Parish Records are online here along with other Wirral parishes:

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Thursday 17 April 08 08:36 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Could you possibly have a look on your index for a marriage of a
-- --Mollard to Martha Goodier I think it will be in the area of Wilmslow around the years 1770 /1775.


Thank You,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 17 April 08 17:32 BST (UK)
good morning jean...could you check 2 records for me please....the first is the spelling of the marriage in Neston  abt 1763 of the brides surname..Edward Standish to Mary Frances or Francis...the second is the marriage of Marys parents in about 1738( i think  in neston) of Thomas Frances/Francis to Ann ?thanks very much for your time...Allan :)

Hi Allan,

Sorry, but neither marriage is on the index.  If you check the Neston PR's on http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ the Edward Standish marriage is there.  As both the BT's and the PR's are transcribed you could check one against the other.  But best to send off to Cheshire Records Office for a photocpy of the PR entry which you can order online for a small fee.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 17 April 08 17:35 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Could you possibly have a look on your index for a marriage of a
-- --Mollard to Martha Goodier I think it will be in the area of Wilmslow around the years 1770 /1775.


Thank You,
Pat.


Hi Pat,

John MOLLARD m Marth GOODEAR 28 Feb 1769 at Wilmslow

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Thursday 17 April 08 21:26 BST (UK)
Jean,

That's brilliant,
I've just received Martha's will from Cheshire Records and amongst a lot of other things it gave me not only her maiden name but her fathers name too. Thanks to you I now have her husband's christian name and lots more material to work with.
A great big thank you,

Regards,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 17 April 08 22:37 BST (UK)
thanks very much jean for your time...its appreciated...regards...allan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: junev on Friday 18 April 08 11:00 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

I'm looking for a marriage between Thomas Craven and Mary ??. Thomas born 1782 Alpraham and Mary about 1789 Frodsham (from census). First child Thomas born 1811 Aldford.

Many thanks,

June
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 18 April 08 19:19 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

I'm looking for a marriage between Thomas Craven and Mary ??. Thomas born 1782 Alpraham and Mary about 1789 Frodsham (from census). First child Thomas born 1811 Aldford.

Many thanks,

June

Hi June,

The only one I can see is:

Thomas CRAVEN m Mary HITCHINS 15 Aug 1808 at Chester Holy Trinity

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: junev on Friday 18 April 08 20:28 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Many thanks. I had seen this one on IGI but thought Chester was a bit too far(!) but I think you are right and it must be them.

June
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 18 April 08 20:40 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Many thanks. I had seen this one on IGI but thought Chester was a bit too far(!) but I think you are right and it must be them.

June

Hi June,

Just to let you know that I also checked the Frodsham PR transcription and they weren't married there before 1812.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Saturday 26 April 08 06:43 BST (UK)
good morning jean....could you please look up 2 marriages for me...they`re not on CPRDb....
the first is Daniel Oakes b 1782 in Backford ,cheshire..married Elizabeth ? (1st born child 1817).
then daniels parents Ralph Oakes and Mary ??..(..first born Elizabeth 1776 in Backford).
thanks jean....regards...allan ;)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 26 April 08 09:28 BST (UK)
good morning jean....could you please look up 2 marriages for me...they`re not on CPRDb....
the first is Daniel Oakes b 1782 in Backford ,cheshire..married Elizabeth ? (1st born child 1817).
then daniels parents Ralph Oakes and Mary ??..(..first born Elizabeth 1776 in Backford).
thanks jean....regards...allan ;)

Sorry Allan, I've checked both indexes for OAKES, OAKS and OKES but not there.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Saturday 26 April 08 10:52 BST (UK)
thanks for trying jean.......allan :'(
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: simplicity on Sunday 27 April 08 15:46 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

I am  looking for any STUBBS marriages you may have for  pre1837  & particularly 1650 - 1800   for middlewich parish only

please can you help


thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 27 April 08 20:48 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

I am  looking for any STUBBS marriages you may have for  pre1837  & particularly 1650 - 1800   for middlewich parish only

please can you help


thanks

hi simplicity and welcome to Rootschat!

Can you be more specific with your request?  On one index alone there are 15 pages of Stubbs marriages with 50+ per page and I can't filter on the church.  If you have any particular marriages you would like me to look for I'd be happy to help.

Jean
Title: Parish Records Marriages - pre-1815 (Thomas CLARE)
Post by: SusieMc on Tuesday 29 April 08 18:08 BST (UK)
Hello!

I'm looking for details of the marriage between Thomas CLARE (b. c1795 in Hale, Cheshire) and Mary ? (b.1784 in Bowden, Cheshire).

Their first (to my knowledge!) child, Peter CLARE, was born in 1813, so I would imagine that the marriage took place prior to this time.

They lived in the Mere area.

I don't know if this is enough for you to go on - I'm aware it's limited - but I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway.

Many thanks!
Susie
Title: Re: Parish Records Marriages - pre-1815 (Thomas CLARE)
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 29 April 08 22:41 BST (UK)
Hello!

I'm looking for details of the marriage between Thomas CLARE (b. c1795 in Hale, Cheshire) and Mary ? (b.1784 in Bowden, Cheshire).

Their first (to my knowledge!) child, Peter CLARE, was born in 1813, so I would imagine that the marriage took place prior to this time.

They lived in the Mere area.

I don't know if this is enough for you to go on - I'm aware it's limited - but I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway.
Many thanks!
Susie

Hi Susie,

The only one I can see is this:

Thos CLARE m Mary FODEN 7 May 1809 at Great Budworth  or, possibly a second marriage:
Thos CLARE wdwr m Mary FORSTER wdw 15 Mar 1837 Lymm by licence

Jean

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SusieMc on Wednesday 30 April 08 10:43 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for this Jean - really helpful!
Will do some more cross-checking on this, but I may just be getting 2 Marys for the price of 1!   ;D

Susie

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Saturday 03 May 08 11:45 BST (UK)
Hi :)

I am looking for a marriage between William Davies and Betty ??? Probably around 1800.

 Known child b 1802 Runcorn, on 41 census William and Betty were living in Stoke, by Chester, both aged 66, so both bc 1775.

Thanks very much, hope you can help
regards,
sigrid


Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: DragonChylde on Monday 05 May 08 19:10 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am trying to trace any details of a marriage between William Weatherby and Hannah (unknown) some time around 1800-1806

Here is how I got here:

IGI Batches J130732/K130732 has these children of William & Hannah, in Marton, Cheshire:
ANN WEATHERBY Christening: 13 APR 1806
SALLY WEATHERBY Christening: 07 FEB 1808
JAMES WEATHERBY Christening: 04 FEB 1810
JOHN WEATHERBY Christening: 26 JUN 1814
PETER WEATHERBY Christening: 09 JUN 1816
JOSEPH WEATHERBY Christening: 03 MAY 1818
DANIEL WEATHERBY Christening: 26 MAR 1820
THOMAS WEATHERBY Christening: 13 JAN 1822
CHARLES WEATHERBY Christening: 27 FEB 1825
SUSANNA WEATHEBY Christening: 17 JUL 1827

and for some reason in Batch: C076951 for Withington, Cheshire:
WILLIAM WEATHERBY Christening: 7 JUL 1812

CheshireBMD has deaths for William & Hannah as follows:
William: 1863 Age: 79
Sub-District: Gawsworth
Registers At: Cheshire East
Reference: GAW/4/10
So his year of birth would be 1783/4

Hannah: 1847 Age: 63
Sub-District: Gawsworth
Registers at: Cheshire East
Reference: GAW/2/18
So her year of birth would be 1783/4
Hannah Weatherby's death is also on FreeBMD:
Q1 1847 Macclesfield XIX 109

The only marriage I can find in the IGI is third hand at best as it is in batch 8732832
WILLIAM WEATHERBY Spouse: HANNAH DAVENPORT
Marriage: 16 APR 1805 Prestbury, Cheshire, England

But a descendant of William (1812) in Australia has his mother's name from his death certificate as HANNAH CLIFTON

There is a Hannah Clifton in IGI Batch P001031 Christened 26 OCT 1787 Wybunbury, Cheshire, but that doesn't fit with her recorded age at time of death.

If Hannah was born 1783/4 I suppose it is possible that Hannah was married twice but I don't have any trace.

Any help identifying Hannah's maiden name greatly appreciated,
Ian
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 07 May 08 07:59 BST (UK)
Hi :)

I am looking for a marriage between William Davies and Betty ??? Probably around 1800.

 Known child b 1802 Runcorn, on 41 census William and Betty were living in Stoke, by Chester, both aged 66, so both bc 1775.

Thanks very much, hope you can help
regards,
sigrid

Hi sigrid,

Lots of Davies/Davis but none that seem to fit.  Closest is William DAVIES m Elizabeth VERNON 13 Jan 1798 Audlem St James the Great.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 07 May 08 08:05 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am trying to trace any details of a marriage between William Weatherby and Hannah (unknown) some time around 1800-1806

The only marriage I can find in the IGI is third hand at best as it is in batch 8732832
WILLIAM WEATHERBY Spouse: HANNAH DAVENPORT
Marriage: 16 APR 1805 Prestbury, Cheshire, England

But a descendant of William (1812) in Australia has his mother's name from his death certificate as HANNAH CLIFTON

Ian

Hi Ian,

I think that the marriage you have found on IGI is the best match, it also appears on my index:

Wm WEATHERBY, Husbandman, Lower Withington m Hannah DAVENPORT, Lower Withington 16 Apr 1805 at Prestbury

There is also this:

Susanna WEATHERBY, sp, Lower Withington m Peter DAVENPORT, cordwainer, of Marton 27 Nov 1815  at Prestbury

Just in case they are connected....
Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: DragonChylde on Wednesday 07 May 08 13:54 BST (UK)
Jean,

Thanks so much for the look up, it's an independent confirmation of the IGI which helps. Thanks for Susanna too, it seems to be a family name so well worth investigating.

Much appreciation for the work,
Ian
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Wednesday 07 May 08 14:41 BST (UK)
Hi :)

I am looking for a marriage between William Davies and Betty ??? Probably around 1800.

 Known child b 1802 Runcorn, on 41 census William and Betty were living in Stoke, by Chester, both aged 66, so both bc 1775.

Thanks very much, hope you can help
regards,
sigrid

Hi sigrid,

Lots of Davies/Davis but none that seem to fit.  Closest is William DAVIES m Elizabeth VERNON 13 Jan 1798 Audlem St James the Great.

Jean


Thanks very much Jean -  I will note this down and now have something new to research  :)


regards
sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Thursday 08 May 08 08:49 BST (UK)

Hi Jean,

Could you possibly have a look for a marriage between a Thomas Mollard and Mary? I’m guessing it will be 1795-1805 and should be Wilmslow. I’m also trying to find the marriage of John Mollard at roughly the same time and same place.
Thank you in advance,
Regards,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 08 May 08 19:56 BST (UK)

Hi Jean,

Could you possibly have a look for a marriage between a Thomas Mollard and Mary? I’m guessing it will be 1795-1805 and should be Wilmslow. I’m also trying to find the marriage of John Mollard at roughly the same time and same place.
Thank you in advance,
Regards,
Pat.


Hi Pat,

Thos MOLLARD m Mary NIELD 1 Sep 1795 at Wilmslow

Sorry, nothing for John except this much earlier marriage:

John MOLLARD m Martha GOODEAR 28 Feb 1769 Wilmslow

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Friday 09 May 08 08:16 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thank you once again.
Beginning to think that John must have died at a young age, can't seem to find anything about him. The earlier John and Martha were Thomas's parents.

Regards,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Tuesday 13 May 08 11:29 BST (UK)
Hello again,

It may be a long shot, but could you check if there is a marriage between Samuel Adkinson (Atkinson) and Ann Groom circa 1835/36 (first child born 1837).

Should be Hyde, Cheshire area.

Thanks
Joan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 13 May 08 17:38 BST (UK)
Hello again,

It may be a long shot, but could you check if there is a marriage between Samuel Adkinson (Atkinson) and Ann Groom circa 1835/36 (first child born 1837).

Should be Hyde, Cheshire area.

Thanks
Joan

Hi Joan,

Sorry, nothing on the indexes.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Tuesday 13 May 08 22:59 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks anyway, thought it was worth trying.

Joan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: trisholdham on Sunday 18 May 08 08:58 BST (UK)
Hi, I am looking for a Samuel Oldham born abt 1808 married to a Nancy born abt 1809 Stockport Cheshire, married about 1829/1830, can you help me please.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 18 May 08 09:57 BST (UK)
Hi, I am looking for a Samuel Oldham born abt 1808 married to a Nancy born abt 1809 Stockport Cheshire, married about 1829/1830, can you help me please.

The only marriage I can see which may fit is Sam OLDHAM m Ann SHAW 27 Aug 1822 at Mottram in Longdendale - but it looks as if this is too early (and in the wrong place!)

Others:
Samuel OLDHAM (bankman at coalpit) m Esther BRADLEY 6 Oct 1822 at Stockport
Samuel OLDHAM wdwr m Ann WRIGLEY (wdw) 18 Jan 1835 at Stockport

Ann and Nancy can be interchangeable.  Could he have been married before, what was Samuel's occupation, or were any of the children born after 1837?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: trisholdham on Sunday 18 May 08 10:25 BST (UK)
Hi,
Thanks for looking, I think Samuel was a weaver,but his wife Nancy died 1849 only 43 yrs old, he did remarry in 1850 to a Mary Ann Renshaw, but I think Nancy was his first wife, I have found them on the 1841 census, but thanks again for looking.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 24 May 08 11:37 BST (UK)
Quote
Hi Lizzie,

Rich WHITTAKER, Hatter m Susanna MOSS, sp, 28 Jun 1795 Stockport
Richard WHITAKER m Betty MOORS 22 Feb 1830 at Stockport

Jean

Hi Jean, you gave me the above info fairly recently.  Does Philimore's give any other details such as ages, witnesses or parents?  We know these are correct and are my husband's 2 x and 3 x g.grandfathers.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 24 May 08 12:01 BST (UK)
Quote

Hi Jean, you gave me the above info fairly recently.  Does Philimore's give any other details such as ages, witnesses or parents?  We know these are correct and are my husband's 2 x and 3 x g.grandfathers.

Lizzie
Quote

Hi Lizzie,

It's not from Philimores it is from the North East Cheshire Index - sorry it's the only information given on the index but you could email Cheshire Records Office for the full details as you have an exact date.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 24 May 08 12:06 BST (UK)
Thank you Jean.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jemwinder on Sunday 25 May 08 00:28 BST (UK)
Hi

I am looking for the marriage of Charles Fogell who originally came from Sheffield as a GLass Cutter/dealer but must have moved to Manchester as there first child was Born in Sarah 1845 Manchester

His Wife as stated in the 1841,51 census was an Annie born in 1827 Hulme

My actual great grandmother Zillah Fogell was born in Hulme 1855 her brothers and sisters were baptised at Manchester cathedral she was not for some reason!

So is it possible to see if there marriage record exists in the hulme area,  so i can see whom there parents where, i suspect Charles father was a George Fogell but have not proof yet

Many thanks for any advice or assistance

regards

Jeremy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Sunday 25 May 08 10:58 BST (UK)
Hi Jeremy

There is a marriage on cheshirebmd site for 1844 at St Elphin's, Warrington:

Charles Fogell to Ann Buxton

Warrington was in Lancashire at the time of the marriage, although now in Cheshire  ;D

Sadly, the transcriptions of St Elphin's records on lan-opc have not yet reached 1844.

Regards
SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jemwinder on Sunday 25 May 08 19:14 BST (UK)
Many thanks

I will order the certificate and see if it matches what i suspect that George Fogill Fogell is his father a glass cutter from Sheffield

many thanks

Jeremy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: judith 4 on Monday 26 May 08 12:15 BST (UK)
Hi,

I wonder if someone would be kind enough to look for a marriage between a John Quin/Quinn and a Ann Scanlan/Scanlon.  Possibly the marriage took place in Stockport and I would think between the years of 1830 to 1836. 

Warmest Regards
Judith
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 26 May 08 17:11 BST (UK)
Hi,

I wonder if someone would be kind enough to look for a marriage between a John Quin/Quinn and a Ann Scanlan/Scanlon.  Possibly the marriage took place in Stockport and I would think between the years of 1830 to 1836. 

Warmest Regards
Judith

Hi Judith,

Nothing for any of the possible spellings.  The Churches covered are generally CoE so if the couple were Catholic or Non Conformist they would be unlikely to be included.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: judith 4 on Tuesday 27 May 08 10:10 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thanks for looking.

Warmest regards,
Judith
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: phyllys on Tuesday 03 June 08 07:51 BST (UK)
Hi Chris I am hoping that you can look up a marriage for me.
I am looking for the marriage of Henry Brindley to Elizabeth Hall in the late 1700'sto early 1800's. Their child Henry is my great Grandfather and as I live in Australia it is difficult to research from here.
Henry was born nr 1819 , this is the date on his military records so am not sure how accurate the date is. Any information would be gratefully received kind regards Phyllys Donald.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: phyllys on Tuesday 03 June 08 18:25 BST (UK)
Sorry I wrote Chris in my message, instead of Jean.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: svb111 on Thursday 05 June 08 23:20 BST (UK)

Hi
I am looking for marriage of Isaac Toft and Mary ?  Isaac was born 1750 and Mary 1760. If there is an Isaac younger than this could you give details for him also as the 1750 Isaac seems old to be the father mentioned on the marriage certificate I have.
                                                                                                                  Thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 06 June 08 18:25 BST (UK)
Hi Chris I am hoping that you can look up a marriage for me.
I am looking for the marriage of Henry Brindley to Elizabeth Hall in the late 1700'sto early 1800's. Their child Henry is my great Grandfather and as I live in Australia it is difficult to research from here.
Henry was born nr 1819 , this is the date on his military records so am not sure how accurate the date is. Any information would be gratefully received kind regards Phyllys Donald.

Hi Phyllys,

Sorry, I had missed your message.

Unfortunately I have checked the index and there is nothing listed on the Cheshire indexes I have.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 06 June 08 18:27 BST (UK)

Hi
I am looking for marriage of Isaac Toft and Mary ?  Isaac was born 1750 and Mary 1760. If there is an Isaac younger than this could you give details for him also as the 1750 Isaac seems old to be the father mentioned on the marriage certificate I have.
                                                                                                                  Thanks

Hi svb111,

Isaac TOFT, b, m Mary TOFT sp 9 May 1786 at Great Budworth

No more Isaac Toft's listed.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jax49 on Friday 06 June 08 20:26 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

I wonder if you would be kind enough to help. I am looking for a marriage,
Thomas Dale b c1805, Congleton marries Ann born c1806. first child (according to census) was born c 1826 he was named John Dale.
Thomas' occupation was Woodturner/joiner. Ann died before 1851, Thomas died before 1861.

Any help would be appreciated

Jacqui

ps forgot to mention they were living in Congleton on 1841 and 1851 census. Ann and all children born Congleton.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: svb111 on Friday 06 June 08 22:52 BST (UK)
  Thank you Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: phyllys on Saturday 07 June 08 04:15 BST (UK)
Hi Jean, thank you so much for your reply.  They are elusive...my Brindleys.  Kind regards Pphyllys

Hi Chris I am hoping that you can look up a marriage for me.
I am looking for the marriage of Henry Brindley to Elizabeth Hall in the late 1700'sto early 1800's. Their child Henry is my great Grandfather and as I live in Australia it is difficult to research from here.
Henry was born nr 1819 , this is the date on his military records so am not sure how accurate the date is. Any information would be gratefully received kind regards Phyllys Donald.

Hi Phyllys,

Sorry, I had missed your message.

Unfortunately I have checked the index and there is nothing listed on the Cheshire indexes I have.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: abbeyfields on Thursday 12 June 08 15:36 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Could I please ask you to check for any further information on the following marriage of my ggggf? I'm hoping there will be a clue to his parentage in there:

Thomas Ford married Ann Norbury
14- 9-1826 Astbury
By Banns

Thanks so much!

Barbara
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 13 June 08 17:45 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

I wonder if you would be kind enough to help. I am looking for a marriage,
Thomas Dale b c1805, Congleton marries Ann born c1806. first child (according to census) was born c 1826 he was named John Dale.
Thomas' occupation was Woodturner/joiner. Ann died before 1851, Thomas died before 1861.

Any help would be appreciated

Jacqui

ps forgot to mention they were living in Congleton on 1841 and 1851 census. Ann and all children born Congleton.

Hello Jacqui,

Sorry for the delay in picking this up.  Nothing obvious but:

Thos. DALE, widwr m Ann SMITH widow 13 May1823 Great Budworth
Thos. DALE, widwr, staffman m Hannah SHRIGLEY 17 Aug 1824 Astbury

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 13 June 08 17:55 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Could I please ask you to check for any further information on the following marriage of my ggggf? I'm hoping there will be a clue to his parentage in there:

Thomas Ford married Ann Norbury
14- 9-1826 Astbury
By Banns

Thanks so much!

Barbara

Hello Barbara,

The information on marriages that I use comes from indexes - I  have checked and it confirms your information but doesn't give anything extra.  Parents name weren't (normally) given prior to civil registration, but the witnesses might give you a clue.  As you have the exact date I would email Cheshire Records Office and they may give you the information.  Alternatively, go to their website - you can order a photocopy of the parish register entry for a small fee online.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jax49 on Friday 13 June 08 20:34 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Thank you very much for your reply on the Dales, both look promising, its more than I had before, many thanks.

Jacqui
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: abbeyfields on Saturday 14 June 08 01:00 BST (UK)
Thanks so much Jean, you've been a great help, I wasn't sure what to do with the information either, but now I do!

Thanks for taking the time to check, it's very much appreciated.

Best wishes,

Barbara
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Thalliwell on Saturday 14 June 08 01:44 BST (UK)
Could you please lookup the marriage of:

James Latham born 1804 in Dorrington-Shropshire-Irelands Cross
to
Jane     ?         born 1803 in Ansley-Staffordshire

probably before the birth of their first child in 1831

Many Thanks !
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: abbeyfields on Saturday 14 June 08 02:33 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Sorry, I have one more now!

Edward and Sarah Norbury in Cheshire somewhere! Probably Blakenhall, Wybunbury parish but I can't find it on the online site, and as I can't find a baptism for Sarah there, maybe they were married from wherever she was born?

Edward and Sarah's first child was 1796, so I'm assuming they were married about 1795?

Do estimated birth dates help in your search?

Thanks so much,

Barbara Bryan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: offroad48 on Saturday 14 June 08 13:04 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
I'm relatively new to RootsChat and have found it very interesting and informative. Just resurrected my Genealogy research. I have drawn a blank on my research in Cheshire and need to view specific Parish Records to go further back. I'm looking for Beresford in Betchton & Church Lawton, Cheshire. Richard Beresford marriage to Elizabeth??. Their first child was b. before 1750 Betchton area. All BDM in both Parishes is my task, any help from yourself would be very much appreciated. I have Richard, Anne, James and William as offspring.

Best regards from Oz
Nigel (Melbourne Australia)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: lala53 on Tuesday 17 June 08 20:49 BST (UK)
Hi - I'm searching for information (Birth, marriage and death)  possibly in Runcorn or Great Budworth parish of a Mary Dickens and Thomas Dutton ( really uncommon name.;..) Mary Dickens is quite easy as she survived into the 1890s, but I am unable to trace which Thomas Dutton she married, or where he came from. Mary came from Little Leigh and there is an IGI record that could be her, born around 1809. The marriage to Thomas probably took place around 1830 because on the 1841 census, Mary was a widow with two children - William aged 10 and Elizabeth aged about 6. (The children's names could also be clues to the parentage of Thomas Dutton) They were living in Runcorn and continued to do so for many years, which makes Runcorn the The most likely location for his death . However, I suspect they may have migrated there following a marriage in Great Budworth parish. I would be very grateful if someone could check the relevant records. Thanks a lot, Lala
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jax49 on Saturday 21 June 08 13:29 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

You very kindly found a couple of marriages for me for THOMAS DALE to ANN from the CONGLETON area.

I think I must have been in "rooky" mode. I hadnt realised that I had a birth that was in 1838 that could tell be ANNs surname!!! Well, I got the cert and dont know if it is any help to my original request but the name appears to be GALLIENNE. Not a name I have come across before. Also on the 1841 census they lived on spragg street, Astbury. On the IGI I found the possibLe christening for their first child, JOHN of 1826 in MARTON BY CONGLETON.
Would any of this further my quest to find the marriage of THOMAS and ANN DALE.
I cant believe I didnt check the obvious things first. I would be very grateful if you could check the indexes again for me and appologies for wasting your time last time!!!

Jacqui
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 22 June 08 08:54 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Sorry, I have one more now!

Edward and Sarah Norbury in Cheshire somewhere! Probably Blakenhall, Wybunbury parish but I can't find it on the online site, and as I can't find a baptism for Sarah there, maybe they were married from wherever she was born?

Edward and Sarah's first child was 1796, so I'm assuming they were married about 1795?

Do estimated birth dates help in your search?

Thanks so much,

Barbara Bryan

Hello Barbara,

Sorry, there is no marriage of an Edward to Sarah on the indexes.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 22 June 08 09:00 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
I'm relatively new to RootsChat and have found it very interesting and informative. Just resurrected my Genealogy research. I have drawn a blank on my research in Cheshire and need to view specific Parish Records to go further back. I'm looking for Beresford in Betchton & Church Lawton, Cheshire. Richard Beresford marriage to Elizabeth??. Their first child was b. before 1750 Betchton area. All BDM in both Parishes is my task, any help from yourself would be very much appreciated. I have Richard, Anne, James and William as offspring.

Best regards from Oz
Nigel (Melbourne Australia)

Hi Nigel,

Glad your are enjoying Rootschat! 

I can't find a marriage for Richard on the indexes, but have you seen the earlier marriage at Davenham on the Cheshire CPRDB site:

Thomas BERISFORD, parish of Sandbach m Elisabeth STOCDALE, parish of Sandbach by licence 12 Mar 1733.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 22 June 08 09:11 BST (UK)
Hi - I'm searching for information (Birth, marriage and death)  possibly in Runcorn or Great Budworth parish of a Mary Dickens and Thomas Dutton ( really uncommon name.;..) Mary Dickens is quite easy as she survived into the 1890s, but I am unable to trace which Thomas Dutton she married, or where he came from. Mary came from Little Leigh and there is an IGI record that could be her, born around 1809. The marriage to Thomas probably took place around 1830 because on the 1841 census, Mary was a widow with two children - William aged 10 and Elizabeth aged about 6. (The children's names could also be clues to the parentage of Thomas Dutton) They were living in Runcorn and continued to do so for many years, which makes Runcorn the The most likely location for his death . However, I suspect they may have migrated there following a marriage in Great Budworth parish. I would be very grateful if someone could check the relevant records. Thanks a lot, Lala

Hello Lala, and welcome to Rootschat.

I have checked the available indexes for you but can't see the marriage.  I have checked DICKEN, DICKENS, DICKIN and DICKINS.  However I have located the baptism you are looking for at:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html?datestamp=1202934839187#p=0

If you search under Cheshire Baptisms and put in Mary DICKENS you can download an image of the parish register entry for Little Leigh.  She was born 14th January 1809 and baptised 12th Feb 1809.

Hope that this helps you with your quest.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 22 June 08 09:16 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

You very kindly found a couple of marriages for me for THOMAS DALE to ANN from the CONGLETON area.

I think I must have been in "rooky" mode. I hadnt realised that I had a birth that was in 1838 that could tell be ANNs surname!!! Well, I got the cert and dont know if it is any help to my original request but the name appears to be GALLIENNE. Not a name I have come across before. Also on the 1841 census they lived on spragg street, Astbury. On the IGI I found the possibLe christening for their first child, JOHN of 1826 in MARTON BY CONGLETON.
Would any of this further my quest to find the marriage of THOMAS and ANN DALE.
I cant believe I didnt check the obvious things first. I would be very grateful if you could check the indexes again for me and appologies for wasting your time last time!!!

Jacqui

Hi Jacqui,

I can't see anything obvious - I may have posted last time but there is this marriage:

Thomas DALE, Husbm, m Ann JOLLEY 22 Jun 1819 at Astbury.  If the surname is difficult to decipher it might be worth posting part of the image in the common room to see if anyone can help.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jax49 on Sunday 22 June 08 09:49 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks for taking the trouble to look again for me. The latter half of the name is difficult to decipher but the first part is definitely GALLI*. Thanks for the suggestion.

Jacqui
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 22 June 08 11:23 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks for taking the trouble to look again for me. The latter half of the name is difficult to decipher but the first part is definitely GALLI*. Thanks for the suggestion.

Jacqui

It could be GALLIMORE - I have come across the name in Cheshire but there was nothing close to this on the indexes.  I still think it is a good idea to post a sample from the certificate.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jax49 on Sunday 22 June 08 12:38 BST (UK)
Jean
Thanks for looking for that name for me I would have felt cheeky asking again!

Oh well back to the drawing board :)

Many thanks

Jacqui
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: abbeyfields on Sunday 22 June 08 15:02 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for looking Jean - I wonder if this means they didn't get married, or if it just means that it wasn't recorded or lost or whatever? Ah, the mysteries!

Thanks again,

Barbara

Hi Jean,

Sorry, I have one more now!

Edward and Sarah Norbury in Cheshire somewhere! Probably Blakenhall, Wybunbury parish but I can't find it on the online site, and as I can't find a baptism for Sarah there, maybe they were married from wherever she was born?

Edward and Sarah's first child was 1796, so I'm assuming they were married about 1795?

Do estimated birth dates help in your search?

Thanks so much,

Barbara Bryan

Hello Barbara,

Sorry, there is no marriage of an Edward to Sarah on the indexes.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: lala53 on Sunday 22 June 08 18:25 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for looking Jean. I'll see if I can find a marriage in Warrington, but I don't have much hope! Thank you for the info re the baptism of Mary Dickens, though.

Lala
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jackie walker on Sunday 22 June 08 18:34 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

I am looking for a marriage of John Phillips to a Mary , their first child was born in Stockport c 1825 (Jonathan), would if be possible to check for me please.

Thank you


Jackie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rosndel on Monday 23 June 08 07:19 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

I am wondering if you would be so kind as to look for a marriage of Thomas Dean to Elizabeth Cartwright around 1792. The IGI has them as the parents of Thomas Dean born 22 Nov 1792 at Butley. I can't find a marriage on the IGI, Bertram Merrell, or Phillimore so I am hoping you might have them on another index. Thank you

Rosndel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 23 June 08 07:29 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

I am looking for a marriage of John Phillips to a Mary , their first child was born in Stockport c 1825 (Jonathan), would if be possible to check for me please.

Thank you

Jackie

Hi Jackie,

The only one I can see is this:

John PHILLIPS, butcher m Mary DALE 10 Oct 1821 at Stockport.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 23 June 08 07:34 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

I am wondering if you would be so kind as to look for a marriage of Thomas Dean to Elizabeth Cartwright around 1792. The IGI has them as the parents of Thomas Dean born 22 Nov 1792 at Butley. I can't find a marriage on the IGI, Bertram Merrell, or Phillimore so I am hoping you might have them on another index. Thank you

Rosndel

Hi Rosndel,

Have checked but can't see the marriage.

Sorry I can't be more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: wawa on Monday 23 June 08 08:21 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Was hoping you wouldn't mind doing a check for me on a marriage for Edward Crickmore (Crickmer) born around 1812, Suffolk to Hannah Madden born about 1820 Cork Ireland, certainly not expecting you to find it but have to check everywhere just incase.

Thankyou
Nari
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jackie walker on Monday 23 June 08 09:25 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Thank you very much, will now check John's occupation.

Kind regards


Jackie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rosndel on Monday 23 June 08 10:47 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thanks for looking for my Thomas Dean. Another mystery to remain unsolved!. Thanks for your time.

Rosndel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Monday 23 June 08 14:43 BST (UK)
Hi Jean, :)

could you have a look for me for a marriage between John Galley and Sarah  ???  around 1806-1809, Wybunbury please, as this is where they lived and I haven't found a marriage for them.

thanks very much,

sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 23 June 08 20:16 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Was hoping you wouldn't mind doing a check for me on a marriage for Edward Crickmore (Crickmer) born around 1812, Suffolk to Hannah Madden born about 1820 Cork Ireland, certainly not expecting you to find it but have to check everywhere just incase.

Thankyou
Nari

Hi Nari,

Nothing on the indexes, but they only go up to 1837.

Sorry,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 23 June 08 20:21 BST (UK)
Hi Jean, :)

could you have a look for me for a marriage between John Galley and Sarah  ???  around 1806-1809, Wybunbury please, as this is where they lived and I haven't found a marriage for them.

thanks very much,

sigrid

Hi sigrid,

The only one is for John GALLEY and Sarah KETTLE at Nantwich in 1818 - see http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/.  Could it have been a second marriage?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: wawa on Tuesday 24 June 08 05:36 BST (UK)
Thankyou Jean for looking for me, really appreciate it.

Cheers
Nari
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: gillbill on Wednesday 25 June 08 01:49 BST (UK)
Any chance of finding a marriage between a John Holt & Ann. Their one & only son I can find is George Holt & it gives these parents. George was baptised at St Bart's Wilmslow, living in Handforth
George was born 1806 & baptised 1807. I can find no sign of their marriage or deaths.

Hope help is at hand

gillbill
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Wednesday 25 June 08 12:57 BST (UK)
Hi Jean, :)

could you have a look for me for a marriage between John Galley and Sarah  ???  around 1806-1809, Wybunbury please, as this is where they lived and I haven't found a marriage for them.

thanks very much,

sigrid

Hi sigrid,

The only one is for John GALLEY and Sarah KETTLE at Nantwich in 1818 - see http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/.  Could it have been a second marriage?

Jean


Thanks very much Jean for looking. This marriage is for another family, not mine, it was an earlier marriage I was looking for. But much appreciate you looking for me,
regards
sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: molliedog on Thursday 26 June 08 01:24 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
I am trying to track down a marriage between James Cheney and Francis Sillitoe in Audlem in 1819. Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks,
Kristy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 26 June 08 18:24 BST (UK)
Any chance of finding a marriage between a John Holt & Ann. Their one & only son I can find is George Holt & it gives these parents. George was baptised at St Bart's Wilmslow, living in Handforth
George was born 1806 & baptised 1807. I can find no sign of their marriage or deaths.

Hope help is at hand

gillbill

Hello gillbill,

The only possible marriage I can see is:

John HOLT m Hannah BAILEY 26 Dec 1802 at Knutsford

Not very convincing, the Wilmslow area doesn't seem to be very well covered.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 26 June 08 18:27 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
I am trying to track down a marriage between James Cheney and Francis Sillitoe in Audlem in 1819. Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks,
Kristy

Hello Kristy and welcome to Rootschat,

The index has:

James CHENEY m Frances SILITOE 21 Apr 1819 at Audlem by licence.

You could email Cheshire records office for the details or order a copy of the parish register from them for a small fee.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: katherinem on Thursday 26 June 08 20:46 BST (UK)
Hi,

I wonder if you would be so kind as to look up a marriage between a Dennis Grundy (born Chorley Lancashire c1817) and Jane (born Stockport c1815); their first known child (Ellen) was born in Stockport c1838.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kath
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: molliedog on Thursday 26 June 08 23:09 BST (UK)
Thanks so much Jean,
Will contact the records office and see what I can get!!
Kristy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ossymark on Thursday 26 June 08 23:25 BST (UK)
Jean

I was wondering if there is anything for the name Groom, Richard I believe marrying Mary around the turn of the 19th Century.  I believe they were both from Boughton?

Many thanks

Mark
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 27 June 08 07:53 BST (UK)
Hi,

I wonder if you would be so kind as to look up a marriage between a Dennis Grundy (born Chorley Lancashire c1817) and Jane (born Stockport c1815); their first known child (Ellen) was born in Stockport c1838.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kath

Hello Kath,

Denis GRUNDEY m Jane TIM 11 May 1832 at Cheadle

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 27 June 08 07:57 BST (UK)
Jean

I was wondering if there is anything for the name Groom, Richard I believe marrying Mary around the turn of the 19th Century.  I believe they were both from Boughton?

Many thanks

Mark

Hello Mark,

There is nothing on the indexes but there is a later marriage:

Richard GROOM, wdwr, bricklayer m Margaret HARRIS 14 Oct 1828 at Chester - check http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ for the details.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ossymark on Friday 27 June 08 19:59 BST (UK)
Jean

Thats him, a second marraige and I think a date for Mary's death from the link you kindly provided.

Thanks for taking the time, good of you..

Mark
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 27 June 08 22:20 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Could you see if there is a marriage of a Robert Verdin to a Jane probably around the 1820's

Cheers
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 28 June 08 10:19 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Could you see if there is a marriage of a Robert Verdin to a Jane probably around the 1820's

Cheers

Hi CaroleW,

This is the only one I can see:

Robert VERDAN, bach m Jane MERCY, sp 28 Jun 1824 at Great Budworth.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 28 June 08 18:33 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Thank you very much, I'm sure that's the one as all the Verdin marriages were around Gt Budworth
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: molliedog on Wednesday 16 July 08 02:41 BST (UK)
Hi again Jean,
I was wondering if it would be possible to get you to look at the Audlem marriages again and see if there are any Cheney marriages listed there pre 1800. Thanks
Kristy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 17 July 08 17:50 BST (UK)
Hi again Jean,
I was wondering if it would be possible to get you to look at the Audlem marriages again and see if there are any Cheney marriages listed there pre 1800. Thanks
Kristy

Hi Kristy,

Sorry that is the only one listed at Audlem.

There are some at Nantwich - you can view a transcription of the parish register here:
http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: molliedog on Thursday 17 July 08 23:28 BST (UK)
Thanks so much Jean....back to the drawing board!!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: aynsley on Friday 18 July 08 08:59 BST (UK)
Hi

I am looking for a marriage in Stockport of Thomas Jones and Jane. Their first child was born 1798 in Stockport
Also in Stockport John Chatterton to Martha, their first child waas born 1791 in Stockport

Thankyou
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 18 July 08 19:27 BST (UK)
Hi

I am looking for a marriage in Stockport of Thomas Jones and Jane. Their first child was born 1798 in Stockport
Also in Stockport John Chatterton to Martha, their first child waas born 1791 in Stockport

Thankyou

So sorry anysley, but neither are on the indexes - they are not complete though.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: aynsley on Friday 18 July 08 20:41 BST (UK)
Thankyou for looking
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Saturday 19 July 08 23:34 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

I hope you can help and see if any of my Cheshire ancestors are in your records??
I have an Isaac Minshull (b. c 1813 Wheelock, Cheshire) married Lydia Olier (b. c1818 in Middlewich)
Is there a marriage listed for Isaac and Lydia around 1836 (there first child, Thomas, was born in 1837 in Congleton)

Lydia's parents were Thomas Olier and Maria? who married around 1816 (Lydia was born c1818) in Middlewich. Are they listed?

Any information would be fantastic!

Thank you

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 20 July 08 07:42 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

I hope you can help and see if any of my Cheshire ancestors are in your records??
I have an Isaac Minshull (b. c 1813 Wheelock, Cheshire) married Lydia Olier (b. c1818 in Middlewich)
Is there a marriage listed for Isaac and Lydia around 1836 (there first child, Thomas, was born in 1837 in Congleton)

Lydia's parents were Thomas Olier and Maria? who married around 1816 (Lydia was born c1818) in Middlewich. Are they listed?

Any information would be fantastic!

Thank you

Tracy

Hello Tracy,

Lydia OLLIER m Isaac MINSHULL 25 Dec 1835 at Astbury
Thos OLLIER m Maria YOUNG 6 Apr 1807 at Middlewich

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Sunday 20 July 08 11:05 BST (UK)
Thanks Jean.... you're a star!! ;D

I have another couple - up the tree - if its not too much trouble??

There were three generations of Thomas's so I wonder if you could check out the following:

Thomas Ollier (b 1763 Whitegate) m Lidia Siddal (1764 Middlewich) they had young Thomas in c1783 - so would guess they married around 1782?

Then older Thomas Ollier (c.1741 whitegate?) m Mary Cawley (c1744 cheshire?) as their son Thomas was born around 1763 - I guess they must of married around this time.

Do the records show fathers?? or where they lived?? If so, it would be great to find out a little more??

This is as far back as I've got..... so just wondering if there is any sign of any more Olliers??

Thanks again

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: obadiah on Sunday 20 July 08 12:08 BST (UK)
Hello Chris,
Hoping you can help with the marriage of 3xGt grandparents James Sefton  b: Staffordshire about 1787 and Lydia (sorry no maiden name) b: Chapel-en-le-Frith about same year.

Shown on 1841 census as living in Stockport with 2 daughters, Mary aged 15 and Emily, 19 with son-in-law James Goodwin.  Know there was a brother born about 1816, all in Cheshire, so am thinking marriage may have also been in Cheshire.  Hope you can help. 
Thanks in advance,

Obadiah
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 20 July 08 13:46 BST (UK)
Thanks Jean.... you're a star!! ;D

I have another couple - up the tree - if its not too much trouble??

There were three generations of Thomas's so I wonder if you could check out the following:

Thomas Ollier (b 1763 Whitegate) m Lidia Siddal (1764 Middlewich) they had young Thomas in c1783 - so would guess they married around 1782?

Then older Thomas Ollier (c.1741 whitegate?) m Mary Cawley (c1744 cheshire?) as their son Thomas was born around 1763 - I guess they must of married around this time.

Do the records show fathers?? or where they lived?? If so, it would be great to find out a little more??

This is as far back as I've got..... so just wondering if there is any sign of any more Olliers??

Thanks again

Tracy

Hello Tracy,

Thos. OLLIER m Mary CAWLEY 14 Nov 1757 Whitegate
Thos. OLLIER, shoemaker m Lydia SIDDALL, sp 26 Sep 1783 Middlewich

The information comes from transcribed indexes so there is nothing else although there may be extra information on the parish records - parents names aren't given as a matter of course, but the witnesses might help.  You could order a copy of the parish record entry from Cheshire Records Office - they have an online ordering facilitiy on their website.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 20 July 08 13:50 BST (UK)
Hello Chris,
Hoping you can help with the marriage of 3xGt grandparents James Sefton  b: Staffordshire about 1787 and Lydia (sorry no maiden name) b: Chapel-en-le-Frith about same year.

Shown on 1841 census as living in Stockport with 2 daughters, Mary aged 15 and Emily, 19 with son-in-law James Goodwin.  Know there was a brother born about 1816, all in Cheshire, so am thinking marriage may have also been in Cheshire.  Hope you can help. 
Thanks in advance,

Obadiah

Hello Obadiah,

The only match is:

James SEFTON m Lydia SHIRT 1 Aug 1808 at Cheadle

There is also this marriage:

James SEFTON, Weaver m Catherine GOODWIN sp 16 Apr 1837 at Prestbury (both of Macclesfield)

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Sunday 20 July 08 14:29 BST (UK)
Thank you Jean
That is excellent.
Will send for them

Thanks again

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Sunday 20 July 08 16:41 BST (UK)
Jean
I'm so sorry about this.... but got on a bit of a roll with IGI's.......and found another generation.
SORRY... but could you possibly have a look for these?

John Ollier (born c. 1720) m Elizabeth ? (born c 1721)
Their son Thomas was born in Whitegate in 1741 - so I guess their marriage would be around 1740?

Thomas Siddall (born c 1744) m Elizabeth ? (b c1744)
Their daughter Lidia was born in 1764 in Middlewich - so I guess their marriage would be around 1763?

Thank you again, for your time.

Regards

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 20 July 08 19:10 BST (UK)
Jean
I'm so sorry about this.... but got on a bit of a roll with IGI's.......and found another generation.
SORRY... but could you possibly have a look for these?

John Ollier (born c. 1720) m Elizabeth ? (born c 1721)
Their son Thomas was born in Whitegate in 1741 - so I guess their marriage would be around 1740?

Thomas Siddall (born c 1744) m Elizabeth ? (b c1744)
Their daughter Lidia was born in 1764 in Middlewich - so I guess their marriage would be around 1763?

Thank you again, for your time.

Regards

Tracy

Hi Tracy,

John OLLIER m Elizabeth MADDOCK 17 Nov 1730 Whitegate St Mary

Sorry, nothing found for the SIDDALL marriage

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Sunday 20 July 08 19:33 BST (UK)
Thanks ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Seabee443 on Monday 28 July 08 11:30 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
I was fascinated by this thread tells me much about Middlewich.  Could you tell me if you have a record of Thomas Benbow marrying Hannah Faram on the 21st December 1826 at St Michaels and all angels.  I am interested to know the name of Thomas Father.
It doesn't seem to have been a long marriage as there is no mention of Hannah in the 1841 census

Congratulations on the assitance you have been giving people
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 28 July 08 18:18 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
I was fascinated by this thread tells me much about Middlewich.  Could you tell me if you have a record of Thomas Benbow marrying Hannah Faram on the 21st December 1826 at St Michaels and all angels.  I am interested to know the name of Thomas Father.
It doesn't seem to have been a long marriage as there is no mention of Hannah in the 1841 census

Congratulations on the assitance you have been giving people

Hello Seabee443 and welcome to Rootschat,

The information on this thread is taken from indexes of the marriages, so there isn't any information on witnesses etc - the father's name would not appear on the parish register entry unless he was a witness (and then it wouldn't tell you if he was the father!)

Just for information, the entry is this:
Thos BENBOW m Ann FARAM 21 Dec 1826 Middlewich (Ann and Hannah can be interchangeable).

You could order a copy of the register entry from Cheshire Records Office for a small fee - they have an online ordering facility.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Seabee443 on Tuesday 29 July 08 00:58 BST (UK)
Thank you for the Welcome Jean, 

I will follow up the register entry, from the 1841 census he was in 1805 just outside Middlewich, there appears to be a number of Benbows working as shoe makers in the town but how they are all related I have yet to discover.

thank you again for your help


Colin
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: wugga on Saturday 09 August 08 19:14 BST (UK)
Hi,
I was wondering if it might be possible for you to look up some Cheshire marriages for me please? I hope the information I have is not too vague.

Samuel Kynaston (also spelled Kiniston/Kinison) and Margaret Rigby married around 1780/1790 in Davenham or Chester

Jonathan Kynaston and Mary? married before 1831 in Chester

James Kynaston and Ellen/Ellinor/Elizabeth ? married around 1750 in Chester

John Blackburn and ? married before 1799 in Chester

John Shone and Ann? married before 1813 in Chester

Any information you can find would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards, Charlotte
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 10 August 08 12:22 BST (UK)
Hi,
I was wondering if it might be possible for you to look up some Cheshire marriages for me please? I hope the information I have is not too vague.

Samuel Kynaston (also spelled Kiniston/Kinison) and Margaret Rigby married around 1780/1790 in Davenham or Chester

Jonathan Kynaston and Mary? married before 1831 in Chester

James Kynaston and Ellen/Ellinor/Elizabeth ? married around 1750 in Chester

John Blackburn and ? married before 1799 in Chester

John Shone and Ann? married before 1813 in Chester

Any information you can find would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards, Charlotte

Hi Charlotte,

Not much luck I'm afraid.  However:

Samuel KINNISON, bach, 26 m Marg. READ, Sp 23, 12 Dec 1791 at Witton
John KYNNASTON m Mary DAWES 21 Feb 1825 at Chester St John - see http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ for details

Nothing for James Kynaston or John Blackburn

John SHONE m Ann RUSCOE 27 Dec 1814 at Chester St Mary - see site given above for details.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: wugga on Sunday 10 August 08 18:59 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Many thanks for your help.

Charlotte
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Saturday 16 August 08 13:57 BST (UK)
Hi Jean
Me again ;D

Do your records cover Mottram? Ashton under lyne district??

If so can you look up a marriage for me??

Joseph Bailey (Bailay) m. Hannah Leech
in Mottram/ Ashton Under Lyne Dec. Q 1873
8d 929.

I'll keep my fingers crossed that area is in your records!!
Thanks again.

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Stovepipe on Saturday 16 August 08 14:13 BST (UK)
Hi Tracy,

I don't know about Mottram, but the records are for the  time before civil registration began (i.e. pre 1837).

Once the marriage is found in the civil registration index you're out of luck I'm afraid.

Stovepipe
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Saturday 16 August 08 14:20 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Stovepipe!! Got completely carried away!!! ::)
Will have to order the cert!!

Thanks again!

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Saturday 16 August 08 17:20 BST (UK)
Have another request, Jean?

If your records cover Stalybridge area of Cheshire??

A Benjamin Hague c. 1803 m Elizabeth(Betty) ? c. 1803
They lived in Stalybridge and were born Stalybridge, so am assuming they married there.
Their first child (that I can trace) was born in 1825..... so am assuming they married around 1823-24??

Is there anything listed?

Many Thanks in advance

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 17 August 08 12:46 BST (UK)
Hi Jean
Me again ;D

Do your records cover Mottram? Ashton under lyne district??

If so can you look up a marriage for me??

Joseph Bailey (Bailay) m. Hannah Leech
in Mottram/ Ashton Under Lyne Dec. Q 1873
8d 929.

I'll keep my fingers crossed that area is in your records!!
Thanks again.

Tracy

Hi Tracy,

Stovepipe is correct that the indexes only go up to 1837 pre civil registration.  However the marriage is also at www.cheshirebmd.org.uk which gives the church as Godley St John, so easier if you want to request a separate lookup.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 17 August 08 12:50 BST (UK)
Have another request, Jean?

If your records cover Stalybridge area of Cheshire??

A Benjamin Hague c. 1803 m Elizabeth(Betty) ? c. 1803
They lived in Stalybridge and were born Stalybridge, so am assuming they married there.
Their first child (that I can trace) was born in 1825..... so am assuming they married around 1823-24??

Is there anything listed?

Many Thanks in advance

Tracy

Hi Tracy,

This is the closest I can see:

Benjamin HAGUE m Eliz. FERNERLEY 6 June 1824 Cheadle

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Sunday 17 August 08 16:14 BST (UK)
Thanks for both replies Jean... will check out the Godley cert, in fact I've got the form ready to send off for that!
With regards to Benjamin and Elizabeth - I'll have to check out the Stalybridge records and see if I can find anything.

Thanks again for your help.

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ROSANNA J on Monday 18 August 08 22:30 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
Hope you can help. I am looking for a marriage in Northwich/ Frodsham area
George Wakefield b. 1749  to  Ann[Nancy] b. 1742
Thanks Rosanna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jayson on Tuesday 19 August 08 16:39 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

I am looking for the marriage of Joseph Whittingham to an Elizabeth sometime in the 1720s.  Elizabeth was buried at Middlewich in 1736.

Many thanks

Jayson
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 19 August 08 20:11 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
Hope you can help. I am looking for a marriage in Northwich/ Frodsham area
George Wakefield b. 1749  to  Ann[Nancy] b. 1742
Thanks Rosanna

Hi Rosanna,

I have checked and cannot see a relevant marriage.  I have also checked Frodsham and the marriage isn't there.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 19 August 08 20:17 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

I am looking for the marriage of Joseph Whittingham to an Elizabeth sometime in the 1720s.  Elizabeth was buried at Middlewich in 1736.

Many thanks

Jayson

Sorry Jayson,

Have checked but no match.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Rubbish on Tuesday 19 August 08 22:55 BST (UK)
Hi Chris ,
 May I take up your offer on the Marriage Registers?

Can you find a marriage of a James Worrall to a Margaret in Great Budworth from 1690 to 1700?

Can you confirm that Thomas Worrall married Margaret Booth in Great Budworth on 22 Jun 1654?

Thanks
Paul aka Rubbish
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jayson on Wednesday 20 August 08 10:10 BST (UK)
Thanks for looking, Jean. May I request another lookup.  Same chap, Joseph Whittingham, to an ANN sometime in the 1730s.  Middlewich again.

Many thanks

Jayson
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ROSANNA J on Wednesday 20 August 08 13:44 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
Hope you can help. I am looking for a marriage in Northwich/ Frodsham area
George Wakefield b. 1749  to  Ann[Nancy] b. 1742
Thanks Rosanna

Hi Rosanna,

I have checked and cannot see a relevant marriage.  I have also checked Frodsham and the marriage isn't there.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean

Thanks for looking Jean,
Rosanna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Stovepipe on Wednesday 20 August 08 15:03 BST (UK)
It might be worth reminding people that the FamilySearch Labs (http://labs.familysearch.org/) site has an index of Cheshire marriages from 1538 to 1907.  It's far from comprehensive, and I wouldn't trust its indexing as much as that in W.P.W Phillimore's Cheshire Parish Record Transcripts - so this thread still is valuable.  But the other place might be worth a look, especially for marriages after 1837.

One big advantage of the Labs site, though, if you are lucky enough to find a marriage there then you can look at an image of the actual parish register.

It's got Cheshire baptisms and burials too (same date range).  Again, there is far from comprehensive coverage.  (At least I've never found any of my Cheshire ancestors in the registers on that site despite finding them at the CPR database (http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/) site.)

Stovepipe
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 20 August 08 17:54 BST (UK)
Hi Chris ,
 May I take up your offer on the Marriage Registers?

Can you find a marriage of a James Worrall to a Margaret in Great Budworth from 1690 to 1700?

Can you confirm that Thomas Worrall married Margaret Booth in Great Budworth on 22 Jun 1654?

Thanks
Paul aka Rubbish

Hi Paul,

Neither marriage is on the index - but it isn't complete.  Closest is:

James WORRALL m Esther HATTON 10 May 1716 at Great Budworth

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 20 August 08 18:00 BST (UK)
Thanks for looking, Jean. May I request another lookup.  Same chap, Joseph Whittingham, to an ANN sometime in the 1730s.  Middlewich again.

Many thanks

Jayson

Hi Jayson,

Doesn't seem to be there.  There are these:

Joseph WHITTINGHAM m Hannah SHAW 2 Jan 1727 Brereton St Oswald (old date format) or
John WITTINGHAM m Hannah HULSE 4 Jul 1731 Middlewich St Michael

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Rubbish on Wednesday 20 August 08 18:57 BST (UK)
Jean,

Thanks for looking,

Paul
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jayson on Thursday 21 August 08 16:03 BST (UK)
 ;) Thanks for the help, Jean.

Jayson
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: offroad48 on Friday 22 August 08 12:44 BST (UK)
Hi Chris, Would appreciate your help on locating the marriage of William Beresford (b.abt 1776, d.1858). marriage to Mary Ann? around 1795 to 1798. They were both from Church Lawton, Cheshire and I believe they were married there too. They had 11 children. I have no record of their marriage but would assume Church Lawton. Note: His son was a William who also married a Mary! Thanks in anticipation.
Nigel (offroad48)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 22 August 08 19:16 BST (UK)
Hi Chris, Would appreciate your help on locating the marriage of William Beresford (b.abt 1776, d.1858). marriage to Mary Ann? around 1795 to 1798. They were both from Church Lawton, Cheshire and I believe they were married there too. They had 11 children. I have no record of their marriage but would assume Church Lawton. Note: His son was a William who also married a Mary! Thanks in anticipation.
Nigel (offroad48)

Hello Nigel,

I can't see an obvious marriage - I've checked BERESFORD, BERISFORD, BERRESFORD & BERRISFORD - this is the closest:

Wm BERRISFORD, Miller m Mary BATE, sp 13 Jul 1797 at Astbury

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: offroad48 on Saturday 23 August 08 01:50 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,
Thanks for the look up on the William Beresford marriage. Looks like the missing link to me as I have him as a Miller from 1798-1817 in my files! The first born was 1798 which probably makes it conclusive. The Mary Bate was probably a local in Astbury which is relatively close. The name as you note has several variations. Thanks for you help.
Nigel
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jayson on Tuesday 26 August 08 12:33 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Would you be able to look for any references to Hugh Wade in the marriage index?

Many thanks!

Jayson
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 27 August 08 12:17 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Would you be able to look for any references to Hugh Wade in the marriage index?

Many thanks!

Jayson

Hi Jayson,

I'm sorry, there is no reference to Hugh Wade on my indexes.  In fact the only reference I can find is on Pallot's marriage index for Hugh Wade and Isabella Brummage at Bloomsbury St George in 1815 - no other information given.  You must have some of the most elusive family lines in Cheshire!  ???

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jayson on Thursday 28 August 08 16:01 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Yes, they do seem to be VERY elusive.  ;D

Thanks for looking!

Jayson
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bbstport on Friday 12 September 08 15:30 BST (UK)
i am trying to find a marriage betwee a william gordon born abt 1791 in kirkham/lancaster to a cather - name possibly smith ?  i know his second wife was mary austin who was born in kirkham, lancs.
i think he married his first wife in cheadle, stockport
many thanks
belinda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 12 September 08 18:52 BST (UK)
i am trying to find a marriage betwee a william gordon born abt 1791 in kirkham/lancaster to a cather - name possibly smith ?  i know his second wife was mary austin who was born in kirkham, lancs.
i think he married his first wife in cheadle, stockport
many thanks
belinda

Hi Belinda,

Wm GORDON m Catherine PRESTON 2 Dec 1805 at Cheadle

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bbstport on Friday 12 September 08 19:07 BST (UK)
does it show any ages or where they were born on the documents you have ?
thanks
belinda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 13 September 08 11:01 BST (UK)
does it show any ages or where they were born on the documents you have ?
thanks
belinda

Hi Belinda,

No, it is only an index.  The parish register may have more information but it is unlikely to show ages or place of birth.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jackie45 on Sunday 14 September 08 21:57 BST (UK)
Hi,
I'm new here so please be kind!!!!!!!!
I am trying to trace most of my family but the main one so far is Washington, they were all from Odd Rode, Mow Cop, but their births/marriages, etc were registered at Congleton, Cheshire.

So my request is this please:-

I have found George Washington born 1808 and died in 1886 his wife was Fanny but I don't know her maiden name, (could you please find that one?), I think his father was Thomas Washington born 1786 who was a Butcher but I could be very mistaken as I thought my family were all coal miners.

Thank you so very much and look forward to hearing from you.

Jackie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 15 September 08 17:37 BST (UK)
Hi,
I'm new here so please be kind!!!!!!!!
I am trying to trace most of my family but the main one so far is Washington, they were all from Odd Rode, Mow Cop, but their births/marriages, etc were registered at Congleton, Cheshire.

So my request is this please:-

I have found George Washington born 1808 and died in 1886 his wife was Fanny but I don't know her maiden name, (could you please find that one?), I think his father was Thomas Washington born 1786 who was a Butcher but I could be very mistaken as I thought my family were all coal miners.

Thank you so very much and look forward to hearing from you.

Jackie

Hi Jackie and a warm welcome to Rootschat,

There is this:

George WASHINGTON, Butcher m Francis HOOD, Sp 18 Dec 1831 at Prestbury.  Note says both of Macclesfield.

Some more that might be of interest:

Thos WASHINGTON, Butcher, p Biddulph, Co Staffs m Mary HAWTHORN, sp otp 27 Jan 1765 Astbury
Thos WASHINGTON, Butcher m Sarah BUNN, sp 2 Jan 1772 Astbury by licence
Thos WASHINGTON, Butcher m Jane KENALLY, sp 14 May 1798 Stockport

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jackie45 on Monday 15 September 08 17:48 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Many thanks for that.  But I'm not sure if it's what I'm looking for!

I have been to my local library today and only just found out that if I go there I can have free access to Ancestry so am going to try that out either tomorrow or Wednesday;  I need to get the birth certificate for George Washington (born 1808 and died 1886) really to find out more.

George Washington married Fanny ?  so that George is not mine.  Shame!

Oh well, onwards and upwards, as they say!

Thanks again and I'll let you know how I get on and thanks for the warm welcome too!

Jackie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 15 September 08 18:02 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Many thanks for that.  But I'm not sure if it's what I'm looking for!

I have been to my local library today and only just found out that if I go there I can have free access to Ancestry so am going to try that out either tomorrow or Wednesday;  I need to get the birth certificate for George Washington (born 1808 and died 1886) really to find out more.

George Washington married Fanny ?  so that George is not mine.  Shame!

Oh well, onwards and upwards, as they say!

Thanks again and I'll let you know how I get on and thanks for the warm welcome too!

Jackie

Hi Jackie,

Francis and Fanny are interchangeable so it could be your George.  There are no birth certificates before civil registration began on 1st July 1837 so you will need to find his baptism in the parish records.  Have you found him on the census yet?  If not, I'd suggest you post on the Cheshire Lookup Request Board and we will try to help.  His birth place should indicate the most likely churches for his baptism.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jackie45 on Monday 15 September 08 18:39 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

You are a star!

I had no idea Fanny and Francis were interchangeable (you learn something new everyday!).

Have not found him on the census as I don't have access.  I don't belong to any of the fee-paying sites (there are too many to contemplate joining!) but will keep on looking and will ask on the request board.

Thank you so much.

Jackie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Thursday 18 September 08 00:03 BST (UK)
Hello

I have Hannah YARWOOD born about 1839 in Motttram St Andrew, Cheshire.  I cannot find her parents marriage, so must be before 1837.

Please could you check and see if you can find a marriage for

William YARWOOD and Edna HOLT.

(William was born Morley, Cheshire about 1821 and Edna was born Alderley Cheshire about 1817 (daughter of Josiah Holt).

Thank you
Joan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 18 September 08 17:12 BST (UK)
Hello

I have Hannah YARWOOD born about 1839 in Motttram St Andrew, Cheshire.  I cannot find her parents marriage, so must be before 1837.

Please could you check and see if you can find a marriage for

William YARWOOD and Edna HOLT.

(William was born Morley, Cheshire about 1821 and Edna was born Alderley Cheshire about 1817 (daughter of Josiah Holt).

Thank you
Joan

Hello Joan,

Sorry but that marriage isn't on the index.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Treelover on Friday 19 September 08 09:29 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thank you anyway, back to the drawing board  ::)

Joan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cilla93 on Sunday 28 September 08 05:25 BST (UK)
Newbie here with a request for a look up!

I've had no luck trying to trace the marriage (if it existed) of:

Edward CHESTERS and Ann(e) CHESTERS - probably around 1835/6 maybe in Chester.

 Their son George CHESTERS was baptized 1836 at St Mary on the Hill Chester.  Parents = Edward and Anne.
 
I suspect George was base born yet there is no note on the baptismal record to suggest this.
 
My reasoning is that his parents were not recorded as living together in the 1841 census or any census report since then but his father was still alive in 1866 and listed on George's marriage certificate.
The 1851 census gives his mother's status as "unmarried".
His mother Anne appears to share the same surname as her son's father = CHESTERS as her father was a John CHESTERS.

Of course the possibility exists that the father's name was not CHESTERS and George assumed his mother's maiden name.

I'm wondering if the record index lists brides maiden names?

I've had no luck finding either party in the CPRdb marriages.

Very grateful for your help here!

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: betty p on Sunday 28 September 08 10:39 BST (UK)

HI,
I,m looking for a Nantwich marriage between Weston Bayley and a Jane? Have got Jane's death cert. amongst others. She died 4th feb. 1851 aged 67.On the cert it states that Weston was a yeoman. All my other Nantwich relatives were wed at St, Mary's Nantwich

Betty P
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Elizabeth Revel on Sunday 28 September 08 10:58 BST (UK)

On the Cheshire parish Register Project there is a marriage by license, 16 Nov, 1810, between Neston Bayley, Gentleman, and Jane Fowls, both of Nantwich. Both signed their name. Witnesses were Anne Cobbe and William Cobbe. Celebrant Antho Clarkso

Beth
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jobern on Monday 29 September 08 01:46 BST (UK)
Hi, I am trying to find a marriage between Samuel Morgan and Mary? around 1785, give or take a few years in Handley in Cheshire, or around that location 

Thanks
Jo
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 29 September 08 08:47 BST (UK)
Newbie here with a request for a look up!

I've had no luck trying to trace the marriage (if it existed) of:

Edward CHESTERS and Ann(e) CHESTERS - probably around 1835/6 maybe in Chester.

 Their son George CHESTERS was baptized 1836 at St Mary on the Hill Chester.  Parents = Edward and Anne.
 
I suspect George was base born yet there is no note on the baptismal record to suggest this.
 
My reasoning is that his parents were not recorded as living together in the 1841 census or any census report since then but his father was still alive in 1866 and listed on George's marriage certificate.
The 1851 census gives his mother's status as "unmarried".
His mother Anne appears to share the same surname as her son's father = CHESTERS as her father was a John CHESTERS.

Of course the possibility exists that the father's name was not CHESTERS and George assumed his mother's maiden name.

I'm wondering if the record index lists brides maiden names?

I've had no luck finding either party in the CPRdb marriages.

Very grateful for your help here!



Hello Cilla and a warm welcome to Rootschat!

I've had a good root around my resources but can't find a likely marriage for you.  The baptism would tend to suggest that they were married.  Did they have any more children after the introduction of civil registration?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 29 September 08 08:51 BST (UK)
Hi, I am trying to find a marriage between Samuel Morgan and Mary? around 1785, give or take a few years in Handley in Cheshire, or around that location 

Thanks
Jo

Hello Jo,

Just the one possible match:

Samuel MORGAN m Mary GRIFFITHS 3 Jan 1786 Handley All Saints by licence

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: betty p on Monday 29 September 08 09:52 BST (UK)
Hi Beth,
Thanks for reply and the marriage for Jane and Weston sounds just about right. Many thanks

Betty P
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Elizabeth Revel on Monday 29 September 08 12:31 BST (UK)
George Chesters was baptized at Trinity Church in Chester 8 September, 1836, according to the IGI.

The Cathedral, St. John The Baptist and St. Mary On The Hill each have earlier cut off dates for their marriages on the IGI so it might be worthwhile to look at the records from those sources.

Beth
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: gillbill on Monday 29 September 08 17:51 BST (UK)
Hi

I am looking for a marriage of John Holt to Ann 1800--1810 or slightly before. They had a son George

baptised at St Bartholomew's Wilmslow in 1807. I can find no other children.

Thanks in advance.

gillbil   
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jobern on Monday 29 September 08 22:38 BST (UK)
Hi Jean, thank you so much for finding g g g g grandparents John and Mary Morgan nee Griffiths. Would it be possible to look up their sons marriage

John Morgan and Frances? Possibly married Alford Cheshire around 1813

Once again thank you!!

Jo
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cilla93 on Monday 29 September 08 22:59 BST (UK)
Thank you for the welcome Jean and I really appreciate the time you spent looking for that elusive CHESTERS marriage.   

There are no other children from that union -  but I did find a record of a marriage in 1844 for an Edward CHESTERS in Liverpool who might possibly fit the profile of my Edward (similar recorded occupations) and he gave his status as "bachelor".   
I wonder if anyone knows about divorce records - if such a thing existed back then? 
Or maybe Rector doing the baptism was "persuaded"  not to enter the illegitimacy in the baptismal record!  My speculation is running rampant here!

Thank you Beth for the other suggestions. Unfortunately I still came up empty.
Guess this is one of the things that is so intriguing about this field - the lingering unanswered questions!

Thank you both again.
Cilla
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 30 September 08 07:46 BST (UK)
Hi

I am looking for a marriage of John Holt to Ann 1800--1810 or slightly before. They had a son George

baptised at St Bartholomew's Wilmslow in 1807. I can find no other children.

Thanks in advance.

gillbil   

Hi gillbil,

Nothing obvious, but there is this:

John HOLT m Hannah BAILEY 26 Dec 1802 Knutsford

That's the closest match.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 30 September 08 07:49 BST (UK)
Hi Jean, thank you so much for finding g g g g grandparents John and Mary Morgan nee Griffiths. Would it be possible to look up their sons marriage

John Morgan and Frances? Possibly married Alford Cheshire around 1813

Once again thank you!!

Jo

Hi Jo,

John MORGAN, widower m Frances WILLIAMS 25 Dec 1813 Chester St Oswald

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 30 September 08 07:55 BST (UK)
Thank you for the welcome Jean and I really appreciate the time you spent looking for that elusive CHESTERS marriage.   

There are no other children from that union -  but I did find a record of a marriage in 1844 for an Edward CHESTERS in Liverpool who might possibly fit the profile of my Edward (similar recorded occupations) and he gave his status as "bachelor".   
I wonder if anyone knows about divorce records - if such a thing existed back then? 
Or maybe Rector doing the baptism was "persuaded"  not to enter the illegitimacy in the baptismal record!  My speculation is running rampant here!

Thank you Beth for the other suggestions. Unfortunately I still came up empty.
Guess this is one of the things that is so intriguing about this field - the lingering unanswered questions!

Thank you both again.
Cilla

Hi Cilla,

Divorce would have been very expensive and unlikely then.  It would be more likely that he remarried bigamously if he was ever married to Ann in the first place!

It might be worth a post on the main Cheshire board giving all the information that you have on both parties to see if anyone can spot anything for you.  If you do, please include the census refs if you have them.

Jean

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 30 September 08 15:27 BST (UK)

I wonder if anyone knows about divorce records - if such a thing existed back then? 
Cilla

Divorce was legally impossible in England and Wales after the Reformation until 1857 except through a private Act of Parliament. While not so expensive as some commentators claim, it was nevertheless a complicated procedure. Such an act had to be introduced, normally following a judicial separation, through the House of Lords. The cost was 120GBP if uncontested but up to 800GBP if contested, and took about a year. Until 1857 only the ecclesiastical courts had jurisdiction to assist spouses who could not use the parliamentary procedure. The church courts could annul a marriage, by a decree of nullity, declaring that the marriage had never been valid.

Stan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: cilla93 on Tuesday 30 September 08 17:56 BST (UK)
Thanks Jean and Stan for your replies.  Good information to know.
 Obviously divorce was not an option for these two given their occupational status (post boy and dressmaker) - if indeed they were ever married.  Will take my puzzle over to the main boards!
Thanks again
Cilla
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jobern on Wednesday 01 October 08 00:06 BST (UK)
Hi Jean, thank you so much for finding g g g g grandparents John and Mary Morgan nee Griffiths. Would it be possible to look up their sons marriage

John Morgan and Frances? Possibly married Alford Cheshire around 1813

Once again thank you!!

Jo

Hi Jo,

John MORGAN, widower m Frances WILLIAMS 25 Dec 1813 Chester St Oswald

Jean


Jean, thank you once again for all your help!! That Brilliant. Frances I found in the census and she lived to the right old age of 90. Not many people lived that long in those days. Lets hope it runs in the family :D  Thanks Jo
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: big kev on Wednesday 01 October 08 08:22 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
I am researching my g/g/g/g/grandparents William Woods born about 1743, and his wife Sarah (surname unknown) born about 1780.  Both were buried in May 1820, St. Oswalds Church, Malpas and their children William Woods christened same church 1781, Thomas Woods christened 1783, Randle Woods christened 1786, Samuel Woods christened 1788, another Samuel Christened 1789, Ralph Woods born about 1793, all at St. Oswalds, can you please assist with marriage of William and Sarah Woods, I assume, but am not sure they would have married at St. Oswalds Church, Malpas.

Regards,
Big Kev
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 01 October 08 18:05 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
I am researching my g/g/g/g/grandparents William Woods born about 1743, and his wife Sarah (surname unknown) born about 1780.  Both were buried in May 1820, St. Oswalds Church, Malpas and their children William Woods christened same church 1781, Thomas Woods christened 1783, Randle Woods christened 1786, Samuel Woods christened 1788, another Samuel Christened 1789, Ralph Woods born about 1793, all at St. Oswalds, can you please assist with marriage of William and Sarah Woods, I assume, but am not sure they would have married at St. Oswalds Church, Malpas.

Regards,
Big Kev

Hi Big Kev and welcome to Rootschat.

I have had a look and cannot see an obvious marriage, there is one for Wm WOOD and Sarah MITCHELL at Biddulph, Staffs 23 Sep 1771 (he is from Astbury) but it seems too early to fit.  Malpas isn't very well covered although events are being added to www.freereg.org.uk but only covers 1820 - 1829 at the moment.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: big kev on Wednesday 01 October 08 22:38 BST (UK)
Thank you for the assistance.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jaswabb on Friday 03 October 08 16:23 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

I would be grateful if you would look up on Phillimores Cheshire Parish Records. My WILSON family
 lived in Guilden Sutton and Huxley, Cheshire. I am at a brick wall and I would appreciate any WILSON marriages pre 1837.

Thank you

Peter
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 04 October 08 09:02 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

I would be grateful if you would look up on Phillimores Cheshire Parish Records. My WILSON family
 lived in Guilden Sutton and Huxley, Cheshire. I am at a brick wall and I would appreciate any WILSON marriages pre 1837.

Thank you

Peter

Hi Peter,

Welcome to Rootschat!

I'm sorry but a blanket search on a common surname like Wilson is too difficult.

Can you post details of your brickwall on the main Cheshire board giving all the detail that you have including dates, census references etc and we will give you all the help we can.

Will look out for you post and see if I can help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dean1 on Saturday 04 October 08 13:01 BST (UK)
Dear Chris,

I have just seen this offer to look up Cheshire marriages BUT before I waste your time - the reason I want it looked up is in case it gives the bridegrooms father's name  I have never seen Phillimores so have no idea what it gives.   I am unable to find this marriage on the online parish records for cheshire.   The witnesses names would be useful.

The couple are:  George Foster/Forster
                                b 1799        Wrenbury and
                             Ann Cadman
                                 b 1803 Acton

I suspect but don't know, that they married in Wrenbury Parish Church.   I believe George Foster/Forster was living in Audlem at one time, also Woolfall.

The marriage took place on 1.4.1823 (from IGI sources - submitted).

If you found the record where would I be able to request a certificate from since it is pre-1837.

Thank you for any help you can give me.

Sue
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jo Blake on Saturday 04 October 08 19:51 BST (UK)
Hi

Would anyone be able to look a marriage for me? I think it would be in Dukinfield.
James Keenan b Ireland around 1805 married a Betty b Mossley 1808.
They had several children the 1st being Ann b 1827 Dukinfield.

Thanks in advance

Jo
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 05 October 08 09:56 BST (UK)
Dear Chris,

I have just seen this offer to look up Cheshire marriages BUT before I waste your time - the reason I want it looked up is in case it gives the bridegrooms father's name  I have never seen Phillimores so have no idea what it gives.   I am unable to find this marriage on the online parish records for cheshire.   The witnesses names would be useful.

The couple are:  George Foster/Forster
                                b 1799        Wrenbury and
                             Ann Cadman
                                 b 1803 Acton

I suspect but don't know, that they married in Wrenbury Parish Church.   I believe George Foster/Forster was living in Audlem at one time, also Woolfall.

The marriage took place on 1.4.1823 (from IGI sources - submitted).

If you found the record where would I be able to request a certificate from since it is pre-1837.

Thank you for any help you can give me.

Sue

Hi Sue,

The information that is available is an index of the Parish Register so won't give more information than you already have.  A marriage at this date is unlikely to provide the names of the parents of the bride and groom but you might be lucky with the witnesses.  As you have the date you can order a copy of the parish register entry from Cheshire Records Office - they have an online ordering facility.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 05 October 08 09:59 BST (UK)
Hi

Would anyone be able to look a marriage for me? I think it would be in Dukinfield.
James Keenan b Ireland around 1805 married a Betty b Mossley 1808.
They had several children the 1st being Ann b 1827 Dukinfield.

Thanks in advance

Jo

Hi Jo,

The only one I can see is this:

James KAANAN, sawyer m Betty HARROP 27 Jun 1825 Stockport

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Sunday 05 October 08 11:36 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,
I wonder if you could have a look for a marriage for me?
Joel Wood was born in Butley, Cheshire, c1790.
I think his marriage will be between 1815/ 1822
On the 1841 census he’s living in Heaton Norris and his eldest child was born there c1823.
That’s all the information I have and realize that with such a common name it will be a tall order. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you,
 Pat

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 05 October 08 11:41 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,
I wonder if you could have a look for a marriage for me?
Joel Wood was born in Butley, Cheshire, c1790.
I think his marriage will be between 1815/ 1822
On the 1841 census he’s living in Heaton Norris and his eldest child was born there c1823.
That’s all the information I have and realize that with such a common name it will be a tall order. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you,
 Pat

Hi Pat,

Not many Joel's so:

Joel WOOD, Whitesmith, p Mcr m Martha BRACEGIRDLE, Sp, 13 Oct 1816 Mobberley by Licence
Joel WOOD m Hannah HINCHCLIFFE 22 Nov 1830 Mottram in Longdendale
Joel WOOD, Cordwainer m Eliz BRUNT, Sp, 9 May 1836 Prestbury

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Sunday 05 October 08 11:56 BST (UK)
Jean ,

I thought I would be very lucky if you could find anything at all and here you are replying within five minutes.
Joel Wood whitesmith is the one I was looking for.
Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bbstport on Monday 06 October 08 19:08 BST (UK)
trying to find a marriage of henry brown to a lettice/leticia possibly turner in stockport cheshire. she was born either france or guernsey all census till 1851 have her as france.
many thanks
belinda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bbstport on Monday 06 October 08 19:17 BST (UK)
they were both born abt 1812 - sorry for the lack of information
regards
belinda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: carolynb on Monday 06 October 08 20:36 BST (UK)
hi can you help with a marriage for robert griffiths and mary young it could poss be 3 feb 1812 in tarvin cheshire  parents names or any other details would help me go back further regards carolynb
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 07 October 08 07:23 BST (UK)
trying to find a marriage of henry brown to a lettice/leticia possibly turner in stockport cheshire. she was born either france or guernsey all census till 1851 have her as france.
many thanks
belinda

Hi Belinda,

Henry Harrison BROWN m Lettice TURNER 3 Aug 1834 Cheadle

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 07 October 08 07:28 BST (UK)
hi can you help with a marriage for robert griffiths and mary young it could poss be 3 feb 1812 in tarvin cheshire  parents names or any other details would help me go back further regards carolynb

Hi carolynb,

The information is from an index so won't contain much more information.

Robert GRIFFIES m Mary YOUNG 3 Feb 1812 at Tarvin by licence

As you have the exact date you can order a copy of the parish register entry from Cheshire Records office online for a small fee - it might also be worth getting a copy of the marriage licence.  But neither are guaranteed to have parents names.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jo Blake on Tuesday 07 October 08 17:59 BST (UK)
Jean

Thank you sooo much that is the right one I thought she may have been a HARROP but didnt mention this and am aware of the spelling of KEENAN as KAANAN!

Jo
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: bbstport on Tuesday 07 October 08 18:41 BST (UK)
hi jean, thank you very much for your help with henry brown and lettice turner
regards
belinda
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Iria on Tuesday 07 October 08 20:05 BST (UK)
Posting for Carolyn

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garethghughes on Wednesday 08 October 08 16:40 BST (UK)
Hello

I'm hoping you can kindly look this up for me!  :)

I'm interested in the marriage of William Hughes and Charlotte b.abt 1801 (i think her maiden name was Thomas) both are from Chester as far as I know. I think they were married in 1819.

I am interested in any details of their age's, occupation, address etc. I'm also particularly interested in their parent's details (if there are any) as I want to continue my family tree.

Their children were James Hughes b.abt 1821 Emma Hughes b.abt 1829 George Hughes b.abt 1830

Hopefully you'll be able to find something for me.

Thanks, Gareth  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Iria on Thursday 09 October 08 00:16 BST (UK)
Hi Gareth

Here are the Details from the Cert

William Hughes Blacksmith of this Parish Bachelor
and Charlotte Thomas of this Parish Spinster
Were Married in this church by Banns this the Twenty Seventh June 1819
By Me W Richards Yon Vicar
This Marriage was Solemnized between us W Hughes (signed)
                                                                     Charlotte Thomas (signed)
In the Presence of Thos Jones
                               Harriett Thomas  (both signed)


Hope this helps in some way

Regards

Iria 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garethghughes on Thursday 09 October 08 15:50 BST (UK)
Yeah, thats really interesting, thanks Iria.

I'm now wondering if Harriett Thomas is maybe Charlotte's sister, not sure about Thos (presumalby short for Thomas) Jones.

Fascinating, thanks!

Gareth  ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: junev on Saturday 11 October 08 11:57 BST (UK)
Hi, hope you can help with 2 marriages in the West Kirby/Caldy area of the Wirral.

John Prenton to Jane Johnson around 1720 and John's father John Prenton which I presume would be around 1680/90.

They are not on the Cheshire Parish Register project or IGI so here's hoping!

Many thanks,

June
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 11 October 08 12:39 BST (UK)
Hi, hope you can help with 2 marriages in the West Kirby/Caldy area of the Wirral.

John Prenton to Jane Johnson around 1720 and John's father John Prenton which I presume would be around 1680/90.

They are not on the Cheshire Parish Register project or IGI so here's hoping!

Many thanks,

June

Hi June,

John PRENTON, Caldy, Yeoman m Jane JOHNSON, Sp. West Kirby 7 Feb 1725 [old date format] Thurstaston St Bartholomew by licence

Could this be an earlier marriage?
John PRENTON, Caldy m Mary YEOWDS sp. 11 Sep 1723 West Kirby St Bridget by Banns (this has also been transcribed as 11 Feb 1723, same church, but by licence)

John PRENTON, Heswall m Ann JOHNSON, Caldy 26 Dec 1699 West Kirby St Bridget by Banns

Also:
John PRENTON, Heswall m Mary SHEPHERD 25 Apr 1709 West Kirby St Bridget by Banns

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: junev on Saturday 11 October 08 16:08 BST (UK)
Wow Jean, thanks very much!!

Yes I thought there could be an earlier marriage based on a baptism/death, also looks like his father may have also married twice - lots to think about!!

June
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Monday 13 October 08 10:18 BST (UK)
Jean

Not sure if I've asked for this one before?? But if not could you look up for me??
(must be my age LOL)!! :'(

William Beswick m Olive Nield 9 Oct 1825 at Mottram in Longdendale

Am after details of William's parents, so hoping his father might be listed??

Thanks for your time.

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Iria on Monday 13 October 08 12:48 BST (UK)
Hi Tracy

Here are the Details from the Marriage

William Beswick of this Parish and
Olive Neild of this Parish
Where Married in this Church by Banns this
Ninth Day of October 1825 by me James Todd Curiet
This Marriage was Solomised by William Beswick (signed with his Mark X)
                                                    Olive Neild (Signed with Her Mark x )

In the Precence of John Hansland
                              James Coenor

A Image of the Wedding Entry can be found here

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1469935;w=2783;p=3


Hope this helps

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Monday 13 October 08 13:23 BST (UK)
Hi Iria

That's fantastic! I had no idea there were any images of records on line!

Thanks ever so much for the link.

Has anyone got any ideas how I can trace William's parents?

Thanks in advance

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Iria on Monday 13 October 08 13:46 BST (UK)
Hi Tracy

These are the Only Two that i could Find that May Match

From IGI

William Beswick
10 Jan 1808
29 Feb 1808 Gee Cross Unitarian Hyde Cheshire

Father James Beswick
Mother Elizabeth


Olive Nield
11 Nov 1807 Staylebridge Cheshire

Fathers Name: James Nield
Mothers Name: Hannah


Hope this helps in some way

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Monday 13 October 08 14:21 BST (UK)
Hi Iria

Thanks again for that. I think the Olive is the right one, but think William was born in 1806 in Macclesfield, Cheshire.

If you could find any info out on William that would be great.

Thanks again

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Wednesday 15 October 08 00:48 BST (UK)
Hi Iria/ Jean

Am looking for another couple of marriages in Cheshire!

Olive Nield's parents - who'm I assuming were married in Stalybridge around 1800 - 1806:

James Nield to Hannah ?

Also: I have a Samuel Hague/Haigh? m Betty (Elizabeth) ? again in Stalybridge around 1822 - 1825

Can anyone help with these. I can't seem to find anything on the IGI.

Many Thanks

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 26 October 08 12:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Iria/ Jean

Am looking for another couple of marriages in Cheshire!

Olive Nield's parents - who'm I assuming were married in Stalybridge around 1800 - 1806:

James Nield to Hannah ?

Also: I have a Samuel Hague/Haigh? m Betty (Elizabeth) ? again in Stalybridge around 1822 - 1825

Can anyone help with these. I can't seem to find anything on the IGI.

Many Thanks

Tracy

Hi Tracy,

Can't see anything for Nield but this HAIGH marriage might be of interest:

Samuel HAIGH m Betty NEILD 27 Feb 1827 Mottram in Longdendale

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JanJohnson on Sunday 26 October 08 12:39 GMT (UK)
Hello

I have Hannah YARWOOD born about 1839 in Motttram St Andrew, Cheshire.  I cannot find her parents marriage, so must be before 1837.

Please could you check and see if you can find a marriage for

William YARWOOD and Edna HOLT.

(William was born Morley, Cheshire about 1821 and Edna was born Alderley Cheshire about 1817 (daughter of Josiah Holt).

Thank you
Joan

Hi

I am also looking for the marriage of William YARWOOD and Edna HOLT.  There is a record for a William and an Ednah WODHALL in 1839 in Stockport.  Is it possible that Edna was married before she married William YARWOOD?

Regards

Janet
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 26 October 08 12:55 GMT (UK)
Hello

I have Hannah YARWOOD born about 1839 in Motttram St Andrew, Cheshire.  I cannot find her parents marriage, so must be before 1837.

Please could you check and see if you can find a marriage for

William YARWOOD and Edna HOLT.

(William was born Morley, Cheshire about 1821 and Edna was born Alderley Cheshire about 1817 (daughter of Josiah Holt).

Thank you
Joan

Hi

I am also looking for the marriage of William YARWOOD and Edna HOLT.  There is a record for a William and an Ednah WODHALL in 1839 in Stockport.  Is it possible that Edna was married before she married William YARWOOD?

Regards

Janet

Hi Janet (and Joan)

The marriage referred to took place in 1839 at Cheadle St Mary - it is on www.cheshirebmd.org.uk.

The certificate would tell you if she had been married before.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Sunday 26 October 08 12:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Iria/ Jean

Am looking for another couple of marriages in Cheshire!

Olive Nield's parents - who'm I assuming were married in Stalybridge around 1800 - 1806:

James Nield to Hannah ?

Also: I have a Samuel Hague/Haigh? m Betty (Elizabeth) ? again in Stalybridge around 1822 - 1825

Can anyone help with these. I can't seem to find anything on the IGI.

Many Thanks

Tracy

Hi Tracy,

Can't see anything for Nield but this HAIGH marriage might be of interest:

Samuel HAIGH m Betty NEILD 27 Feb 1827 Mottram in Longdendale

Jean

Thanks ever so much for that Jean. The first two children listed for Samuel and Betty were born in 1825 and 1826, so I wonder if this was Samuel's second marriage? Alternatively, it could have been Betty's second marriage?
Is there any sign of an earlier one as these first two children were born in Stalybridge?

Thanks again for your help.

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 26 October 08 13:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Tracy,

I think you would need to find the baptisms of the children if possible.  There are no marriages for HAGUE/HAIGH in Stalybridge on my indexes (doesn't mean it didn't happen there - just that they haven't been indexed). 

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Sunday 26 October 08 13:52 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean

Will do!

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: GagaGram on Monday 27 October 08 01:57 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I'm hoping someone can locate a marriage record around the late 1790's to early 1800's for Charles Boulton,cabinetmaker to an Elizabeth ?

Their eldest known child,was christened in 1801 at Chester St. John The Baptist.All subsequent children were also christened there, according to the Cheshire Parish Register Project.
I'm hoping they may have married at the same church. One of their children had a middle name of Chritchley,could this be Elizabeth's maiden name?

According to the IGI,there is a Charles Boulton,christened 1775 in Gawsworth,Ches. parents William & Esther Green. I'm not sure this is the Charles I'm looking for,as I have no proof of his dob.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Nancy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 27 October 08 07:48 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I'm hoping someone can locate a marriage record around the late 1790's to early 1800's for Charles Boulton,cabinetmaker to an Elizabeth ?

Their eldest known child,was christened in 1801 at Chester St. John The Baptist.All subsequent children were also christened there, according to the Cheshire Parish Register Project.
I'm hoping they may have married at the same church. One of their children had a middle name of Chritchley,could this be Elizabeth's maiden name?

According to the IGI,there is a Charles Boulton,christened 1775 in Gawsworth,Ches. parents William & Esther Green. I'm not sure this is the Charles I'm looking for,as I have no proof of his dob.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Nancy

Hi Nancy,

These are the only matches I can see - possibly he was married twice?:

Charles BOULTON of St Oswald, Chester m Elizabeth ROBERTS otp 3 Nov 1799 at Knutsford
Charles BOLTON of St Oswald, Chester m Elizabeth CRITCHLEY p Moreton Say 28 Oct 1816 at Moreton Say, SALOP

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: GagaGram on Tuesday 28 October 08 02:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
You are a shining star! You helped unravel a family mystery. Charles Boulton is my 4x gr. grandfather. His 2 marriages explains why 2 of his children had middle names of Roberts and Critchley.

Since I'm from the U.S. and not familiar with the Cheshire area, could you clarify things for me? Charles 1st marriage at Knutsford and 2nd marriage at Moreton Say,Salop, are they the names of the town or the church?
Is there any way for me to get a copy or scan of these records?

I can't thank you enough for your help. Without all you wonderful,generous rootschatters help,I'd be lost!
Best wishes,
Nancy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 28 October 08 15:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
You are a shining star! You helped unravel a family mystery. Charles Boulton is my 4x gr. grandfather. His 2 marriages explains why 2 of his children had middle names of Roberts and Critchley.

Since I'm from the U.S. and not familiar with the Cheshire area, could you clarify things for me? Charles 1st marriage at Knutsford and 2nd marriage at Moreton Say,Salop, are they the names of the town or the church?
Is there any way for me to get a copy or scan of these records?

I can't thank you enough for your help. Without all you wonderful,generous rootschatters help,I'd be lost!
Best wishes,
Nancy

Hi Nancy,

They are the names of the town.  I suspect the Knutsford one will be Knutsford St John.  See:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/knutsford.html

Salop is another name for Shropshire.  I'm not as familiar with the area, it might be best to post a separate request for information on the Shropshire board - not much information but:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/MoretonSay/index.html

You can order photocopies of the parish register online from Cheshire Records Office for a small fee.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: doric on Tuesday 28 October 08 19:56 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am looking for details of a marriage somewhere around 1817 between William Westgarth and Harriet Rowbottom which I think took place in Cheshire.  William was a Woolcomber born in Bishop Auckland and Harriet was born in Cheshire.  I am trying to find out the names of their parents as well as date of their marriage.

Many thanks,

Dorothy 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: GagaGram on Tuesday 28 October 08 20:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
Thank you for the information. You've been a great help!
Best wishes,
Nancy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 28 October 08 21:11 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am looking for details of a marriage somewhere around 1817 between William Westgarth and Harriet Rowbottom which I think took place in Cheshire.  William was a Woolcomber born in Bishop Auckland and Harriet was born in Cheshire.  I am trying to find out the names of their parents as well as date of their marriage.

Many thanks,

Dorothy 

Hi Dorothy,

The marriage is listed on the IGI at www.familysearch.org - you can search this for free:

William WESTGARTH m Harriett ROWBOTHAM 22 Dec 1817 at Bowdon

You would need to get a copy of the parish register entry for further information, but it is unlikely to give you parents names unless they were witnesses.  You can order a copy of the register entry from Cheshire Records Office - they have an online ordering system.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: doric on Tuesday 28 October 08 21:35 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for that information Jean.


         Regards  Dorothy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Thursday 30 October 08 06:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

I’m looking for the marriages of brothers Jeffrey and Jethro Alcock.
Think it will be Wilmslow area and about 1775/1780.
I have the details of their fathers’ marriage in 1749 but can’t find anything for his sons. 
I’ve looked on the IGI, nothing there.
Hope you can help.

Thank You,
Pat.

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 30 October 08 08:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

I’m looking for the marriages of brothers Jeffrey and Jethro Alcock.
Think it will be Wilmslow area and about 1775/1780.
I have the details of their fathers’ marriage in 1749 but can’t find anything for his sons. 
I’ve looked on the IGI, nothing there.
Hope you can help.

Thank You,
Pat.

Hi Pat,

Jeffrey ALCOCK, Oversley Ford tp [sic] m Elizabeth ASHLEY Altrincham p Bowdon 4 Aug 1772 at Wilmslow by licence

Sorry, nothing for Jethro under ALCOCK or ALLCOCK

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Thursday 30 October 08 09:01 GMT (UK)
Jean,

Thank you once again, your help is very much appreciated.

Regards,
Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Friday 31 October 08 09:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Having just made a small breakthrough, can I ask for look-ups for a marriage between:

Charles Holt, weaver of Bramhall & Martha??

Their son Thomas was baptised at Poynton in 1784

Also, the marriage of Charles' parents:

Thomas Holt & ???

sometime before 1753 when their son John was baptised at Hale & Shaw's Lane Presbyterian, Altrincham.  Address on the baptisms is still Bramhall.

Many thanks
SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 03 November 08 07:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Having just made a small breakthrough, can I ask for look-ups for a marriage between:

Charles Holt, weaver of Bramhall & Martha??

Their son Thomas was baptised at Poynton in 1784

Also, the marriage of Charles' parents:

Thomas Holt & ???

sometime before 1753 when their son John was baptised at Hale & Shaw's Lane Presbyterian, Altrincham.  Address on the baptisms is still Bramhall.

Many thanks
SandraC


Hi SandraC,

The only one I can see is this:

Charles HOLT p Stockport m Martha LITTLEWOOD 19 Apr 1779 Cheadle

There is nothing obvious for John, but there are alot of John HOLT's!

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Monday 03 November 08 07:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks for this!

Can I also now ask for any sign of a marriage between:

James Bennett silk weaver of Bramhall & Sophia ???

1834-1841.  All living Handforth cum Bosden from 1841.

Thanks
SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 03 November 08 19:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks for this!

Can I also now ask for any sign of a marriage between:

James Bennett silk weaver of Bramhall & Sophia ???

1834-1841.  All living Handforth cum Bosden from 1841.

Thanks
SandraC

Hi SandraC,

Jas BENNETT m Sophia HOLT 26 Sep 1836 at Cheadle

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Monday 03 November 08 19:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

RESULT!!!!  ;D

Many thanks
SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: MUMMYG on Tuesday 04 November 08 02:34 GMT (UK)

Hi

Heres hoping you can help.

Looking for the marriage of John BEBBINGTON and Mary FINDLOW

ASTBURY St Mary in 1825

Very much would like to find
out where John came from,I think Mary was from Astbury (her first child Phoebe was born there also)
but John is dead by 1841 census and the family live in Witton street Northwich. All children are on IGI
Baptised at Great Budworth Wesleyan Methodist. CONFUSED? me too.

Thanks in advance
G
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 04 November 08 07:34 GMT (UK)

Hi

Heres hoping you can help.

Looking for the marriage of John BEBBINGTON and Mary FINDLOW

ASTBURY St Mary in 1825

Very much would like to find
out where John came from,I think Mary was from Astbury (her first child Phoebe was born there also)
but John is dead by 1841 census and the family live in Witton street Northwich. All children are on IGI
Baptised at Great Budworth Wesleyan Methodist. CONFUSED? me too.

Thanks in advance
G

Hi G,

The information on this thread is from an index so is unlikely to give you the information you are looking for.  The marriage is here:

Mary FINDLOW m John BEBBINGTON 21 Jun 1825 at Astbury

With this information you can order a copy of the parish register entry from Cheshire Records Office for a small fee - but it will only tell you if John was from another parish at the time of the marriage and not where he was born.

The witnesses may help to build the information on the family, but sometimes the witnesses are parish officials.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: MUMMYG on Tuesday 04 November 08 11:31 GMT (UK)
JEAN

Thans so much for the lookup,it helps anyway,at least I have date evidence now,
I was beginning to wonder if Id ever find them,Cheshire records seem very scarce
online.

I realise you dont usually get much from parish records but sometimes you get lucky.
I will now be able to try what you suggest and contact the records office.
Regards
G
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: flo35 on Tuesday 04 November 08 16:46 GMT (UK)
Could you look up if there are any marriages in St Marys Astbury or St John Buglawton for Peter Lees, John Lees, James Lees or William Lees 1780 -1837
Many thanks
Flo
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 04 November 08 17:57 GMT (UK)
Could you look up if there are any marriages in St Marys Astbury or St John Buglawton for Peter Lees, John Lees, James Lees or William Lees 1780 -1837
Many thanks
Flo

Hi Flo,

There are a number of marriages at Astbury for LEES - can you be more specific about what you are looking for?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: flo35 on Tuesday 04 November 08 18:57 GMT (UK)
The main one I am looking for is Peter LEES between 1790 - 1820 either Astbury or Buglawton
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 06 November 08 16:42 GMT (UK)
The main one I am looking for is Peter LEES between 1790 - 1820 either Astbury or Buglawton

Hi Flo,

Sorry for the delay.

Peter LEES, silk throwster m Mary KINSEY 12 Apr 1819 at Astbury

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Friday 07 November 08 13:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks to all your help & some lucky breaks my "cousins" & I are currently making good progress down this line.

Could I ask for a look-up of a marriage between:

John Oldham (hatter) & Margaret

probably Cheadle, Heaton Norris, Stockport, Handforth area, probably before 1810.

Son Charles is baptised at Heaton Norris in 1811.

Many thanks
SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 07 November 08 18:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks to all your help & some lucky breaks my "cousins" & I are currently making good progress down this line.

Could I ask for a look-up of a marriage between:

John Oldham (hatter) & Margaret

probably Cheadle, Heaton Norris, Stockport, Handforth area, probably before 1810.

Son Charles is baptised at Heaton Norris in 1811.

Many thanks
SandraC

Hi SandraC,

2 possibles:

John OLDHAM m Margaret HOULT 1 Mar 1808 Cheadle
John OLDHAM, Hatter, Macc m Mgt DANE, Macc 2 Dec 1811 at Prestbury

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Friday 07 November 08 19:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

I'll plump initially for Margaret Hoult / Holt as this fits my scheme & explains why Charles Holt is living with the Oldhams prior to his death.

Many thanks again

SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Friday 07 November 08 21:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Sorry - I feel like I am monopolising the page & the service  :-[

Having dug back a bit further via the LDS pilot search site, I'm now looking for a marriage:

Thomas Holt husbandman to Margaret ???
about 1745-50 in Norbury, Cheadle, Bramhall area please.

Many thanks
SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 08 November 08 08:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Sorry - I feel like I am monopolising the page & the service  :-[

Having dug back a bit further via the LDS pilot search site, I'm now looking for a marriage:

Thomas Holt husbandman to Margaret ???
about 1745-50 in Norbury, Cheadle, Bramhall area please.

Many thanks
SandraC

Hi SandraC,

Not as good coverage for earlier marriages, this is the only possible:

Thomas HOLT, Stockport m Mgt BURGESS 15 May 1744 Wilmslow

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Saturday 08 November 08 09:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean

I'll see if I can get the Register copy & see if it looks right.

That might be it for a while now!

SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dignity on Monday 10 November 08 16:04 GMT (UK)
I am new to Rootschat and posted a Cheshire request but I'm not sure where it went!
However, I am looking for a marriage c 1836 of Thomas hamnett and Elizabeth/Betty ???. They lived in an area of Cheshire called Chorley. I do not know which Parish that was in, in 1836. Any assistance would be appreciated. Dignity.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 10 November 08 17:57 GMT (UK)
Hello Dignity and welcome to Rootschat!

Here is the link to your previous post where people have posted some census lookups for you:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,340482.msg2194599.html#msg2194599

I can't see a relevant marriage on the indexes although they are not complete.  Given the data on your other thread it is also possible that the marriage took place after civil registration started on 1st July 1837 but I can't see anything obvious.

There are 2 Chorley's in Cheshire, but again from your post I guess that this is the one you are looking for information on:

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/chorley2.html

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: shireflyer on Monday 10 November 08 23:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

I hope you can get me past a brick wall.

I am searching the Brierley family, and at this point have William Briarley (Brierley) married to a Hannah. William b 1782c  & Hannah b 1791c, according to LDS both of Tintwistle.

Can you see in your records, a marriage between these two and any mention of Hannah's maiden name?

Regards

Norm
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: dyoll on Tuesday 11 November 08 21:39 GMT (UK)
hi chris could you please look up a marriage for me . ithink it was st olaves chester . samuel lloyd / mary didsbury between 1800/6 thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jen3435 on Friday 14 November 08 12:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris, have just seen your very generous offer and wondered if you could look up a marriage for me. My gt, gt, gt grandfather was James Bedson and he was married to Sarah? They had 3 children, one of which was my gt, gt. grandfather joseph born 1827. He changed his name to Benson after his marriage to Ann Findlow. Joseph was born in Huxley but i think James was born in Chester around 1801. If you can help i would be grateful. Thank you.

Jenny  ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 14 November 08 18:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

I hope you can get me past a brick wall.

I am searching the Brierley family, and at this point have William Briarley (Brierley) married to a Hannah. William b 1782c  & Hannah b 1791c, according to LDS both of Tintwistle.

Can you see in your records, a marriage between these two and any mention of Hannah's maiden name?

Regards

Norm

Hi Norm,

You don't say when their first child was born, but these are the only possible matches I can see:

Wm BRIERLEY m Hannah HEAWOOD 5 Nov 1810 Cheadle
Wm BRIERLEY m Hannah STANSFIELD 24 Dec 1834 Mottram in Longdendale

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 14 November 08 18:11 GMT (UK)
hi chris could you please look up a marriage for me . ithink it was st olaves chester . samuel lloyd / mary didsbury between 1800/6 thanks

Samuel LLOYD, miller m Mary DIDSBURY 2 Jul 1804 Chester St Oswald.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 14 November 08 18:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris, have just seen your very generous offer and wondered if you could look up a marriage for me. My gt, gt, gt grandfather was James Bedson and he was married to Sarah? They had 3 children, one of which was my gt, gt. grandfather joseph born 1827. He changed his name to Benson after his marriage to Ann Findlow. Joseph was born in Huxley but i think James was born in Chester around 1801. If you can help i would be grateful. Thank you.

Jenny  ;D

Sorry but nothing for Bedson or Benson that fits.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jen3435 on Friday 14 November 08 20:49 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking jean!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: shireflyer on Saturday 15 November 08 07:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thanks for your information posted.

As far as I can ascertain, the first born was Alfred c 1819 in Denton and of more particular interest to me is William b 1823 also born in Denton Lancs both with parents as William Brierley and mother Hannah.

Thanks again

Norm
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: obadiah on Sunday 16 November 08 09:03 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris,
Are you able to help with a Stockport marriage please?
Between James Sefton - originally from Hanley, Stoke, and Lydia (sorry no maiden surname) orig. from Chapel-en-le-Frith.  Eldest boy Samuel born in Stockport around 1813, so am presuming the marriage was near that time  as well.
Thanks, hopefully
Obadiah
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 16 November 08 16:01 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris,
Are you able to help with a Stockport marriage please?
Between James Sefton - originally from Hanley, Stoke, and Lydia (sorry no maiden surname) orig. from Chapel-en-le-Frith.  Eldest boy Samuel born in Stockport around 1813, so am presuming the marriage was near that time  as well.
Thanks, hopefully
Obadiah

Hi Obadiah,

James SEFTON m Lydia SHIRT 1 Aug 1808 at Cheadle

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: obadiah on Wednesday 19 November 08 09:27 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean,
Thank you very much for that.  Another brick wall down!

Obadiah
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hsm on Wednesday 19 November 08 20:58 GMT (UK)
Hi.

I'm looking for the marriage of Joseph REDFERN (born c. 1802) to Ann MADDOCKS or MADDOX (born c. 1812). Their first known child was born c. 1836 so they were probably married in the early 1830s, maybe in the Guilden Sutton area.

I'm also looking for the marriage of Ann's parents William MADDOCKS and Elizabeth, pre 1812, again maybe in the Guilden Sutton area, which is where Ann was baptised.

Is anyone able to help?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 19 November 08 21:28 GMT (UK)
Hi.

I'm looking for the marriage of Joseph REDFERN (born c. 1802) to Ann MADDOCKS or MADDOX (born c. 1812). Their first known child was born c. 1836 so they were probably married in the early 1830s, maybe in the Guilden Sutton area.

I'm also looking for the marriage of Ann's parents William MADDOCKS and Elizabeth, pre 1812, again maybe in the Guilden Sutton area, which is where Ann was baptised.

Is anyone able to help?

Hi hsm and welcome to Rootschat.

Not where expected, but could this be the first marriage?

Jos REDFERN m Ann MADDOCKS 1 Mar 1835 Cheadle

There's nothing obvious for Ann's parents marriage, but it could be that she was from the Cheadle area. 

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hsm on Wednesday 19 November 08 21:39 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for that Jean. I think this could well be the right one as Joseph and Ann were living in Haughton Green, Lancs by 1841. Definitely worth further investigation.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: capritt on Sunday 23 November 08 06:06 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am looking for marriages for the following: -

John Findlow (or Finlow) to Mary Burgess in 1778 Alderley (any parent details would be great or parish belong to details).
James Findlow (or Finlow) to Elizabeth (unknown) abt 1801-1809 probably also in Alderley
William Findlow (or Finlow) to Martha (unknown) abt 1829 onwards
Harriett Findlow (or Finlow) to John Cragg before 1841 probably in Stockport

Many thanks in advance
Abigail
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 23 November 08 08:56 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am looking for marriages for the following: -

John Findlow (or Finlow) to Mary Burgess in 1778 Alderley (any parent details would be great or parish belong to details).
James Findlow (or Finlow) to Elizabeth (unknown) abt 1801-1809 probably also in Alderley
William Findlow (or Finlow) to Martha (unknown) abt 1829 onwards
Harriett Findlow (or Finlow) to John Cragg before 1841 probably in Stockport

Many thanks in advance
Abigail

Hi Abigail,

The parish registers for Alderley are fully transcribed up to c1870 and available here:

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

The marriage of John and Mary Burgess is under FINLOW.

The only other one I can see is this:

James FINLOW m Eliz. BROADHEAD 10 Feb 1808 at Cheadle.  You are unlikely to get parents names on the register at this time unless they are witnesses.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Tarvin Marriage 1812
Post by: Lazylover on Tuesday 25 November 08 11:56 GMT (UK)
Hiya

I'm looking for more information about the Marriage of

Robert Griffiths and Mary Young in Tarvin, Cheshire on the 3rd February 1812 (date from LDS).

Thanks in advance

Carole
Title: Re: Tarvin Marriage 1812
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 25 November 08 18:23 GMT (UK)
Hiya

I'm looking for more information about the Marriage of

Robert Griffiths and Mary Young in Tarvin, Cheshire on the 3rd February 1812 (date from LDS).

Thanks in advance

Carole

Hi Carole,

Nothing to add I'm afraid, just confirmation:

Robert GRIFFIES m Mary YOUNG 3 Feb 1812  at Tarvin

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Curtis_H on Tuesday 25 November 08 21:25 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris, :D

Could you lookup the persons listed below:

George Hulme – Born 1684? (May have father named George Hulme also) in England. Possibly township of Tilston. Died 26 May 1714, bucks county Pennsylvania, U.S.
Married
Ellin (Maiden name unknown) Hulme – Born?? – Died 27 Feb 1700-01 –
tombstone in Didsbury Parish, Cheshire England.

AND/OR

William Hulme. Birth: 1670 Cheshire, England. Death: 1750 Amelia Co. Va. USA.
Married
Ann Hulme. Birth: 1698, England. Death: 1759 Amelia Co. Va. USA.

Thanks, Curtis ::)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Lazylover on Wednesday 26 November 08 10:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 28 November 08 18:29 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris, :D

Could you lookup the persons listed below:

George Hulme – Born 1684? (May have father named George Hulme also) in England. Possibly township of Tilston. Died 26 May 1714, bucks county Pennsylvania, U.S.
Married
Ellin (Maiden name unknown) Hulme – Born?? – Died 27 Feb 1700-01 –
tombstone in Didsbury Parish, Cheshire England.

AND/OR

William Hulme. Birth: 1670 Cheshire, England. Death: 1750 Amelia Co. Va. USA.
Married
Ann Hulme. Birth: 1698, England. Death: 1759 Amelia Co. Va. USA.

Thanks, Curtis ::)

Hi Curtis,

There isn't much information about for dates as early as this.  I have checked my indexes but there are no leads there.  It seems very close on dates for George to have been born 1684 and married Ellin who then died in 1700/01 - also, Didsbury is in Lancashire, now a suburb of Manchester.  Can I ask what leads you to Tilston for the marriage?  And do you know if George and Ellin had any children born/baptised in England?

Sorry for all the questions  :)

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Curtis_H on Friday 28 November 08 21:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Curtis,

There isn't much information about for dates as early as this.  I have checked my indexes but there are no leads there.  It seems very close on dates for George to have been born 1684 and married Ellin who then died in 1700/01 - also, Didsbury is in Lancashire, now a suburb of Manchester.  Can I ask what leads you to Tilston for the marriage?  And do you know if George and Ellin had any children born/baptised in England?

Sorry for all the questions 

Jean


Jean, George & Ellen did have children, this is how we are related, George had two children, one boy George jr, and one daughter, Martha. When Ellen died we believe Shorty after, George sr. came to Virginia, US. We have a will from George sr, and can trace from there to the current timeline.
We just don’t have any info before George and Ellen, and who was George's father and mother we only can guess, and believe that Gorge's father might be Hugh William Hulme b.1634 wife Elizabeth (massey) or (Massaiz) Hulme b.1638?, children were, Robert, Hugh, George, and a unknown child. BUT we have nothing that confirms this. That is where we are stuck. We believe that George was born in Tilston, England, that is the only connection.
Here is another loop.
We also believe a William Hulme b. 1670 was somehow related to George, both came to Virginia, US and died there in the same county in VA. But we cannot tie the two together.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Curtis
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 28 November 08 22:24 GMT (UK)
Jean, George & Ellen did have children, this is how we are related, George had two children, one boy George jr, and one daughter, Martha. When Ellen died we believe Shorty after, George sr. came to Virginia, US. We have a will from George sr, and can trace from there to the current timeline.
We just don’t have any info before George and Ellen, and who was George's father and mother we only can guess, and believe that Gorge's father might be Hugh William Hulme b.1634 wife Elizabeth (massey) or (Massaiz) Hulme b.1638?, children were, Robert, Hugh, George, and a unknown child. BUT we have nothing that confirms this. That is where we are stuck. We believe that George was born in Tilston, England, that is the only connection.
Here is another loop.
We also believe a William Hulme b. 1670 was somehow related to George, both came to Virginia, US and died there in the same county in VA. But we cannot tie the two together.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Curtis

I think that the only option is to find your local LDS centre and go through the Tilston parish records although it isn't clear how you have found the Tilston connection.  Were George jun and Martha baptised in Cheshire?  Tilston and Didsbury are some distance apart so the connection isn't obvious.  I have had a look at the records I have access to and can't find any further leads for you.

Sorry I can't be of more help, but will bear it in mind when researching.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: wozwoz on Thursday 04 December 08 15:13 GMT (UK)
database error??
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: wozwoz on Thursday 04 December 08 15:15 GMT (UK)
Hello

Can anyone help  [Hague Hauge Haigh]

Looking for marriage of Thomas Hague  to  Fanny  ??? (born abt 1781 Ashley Cheshire)
First child believe was Fanny born Hale and Christened Bowdon 1813.  (from LDS)
Assume marriage within Bowdon area.

thanks

wozwoz
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 04 December 08 19:45 GMT (UK)
Hello

Can anyone help  [Hague Hauge Haigh]

Looking for marriage of Thomas Hague  to  Fanny  ??? (born abt 1781 Ashley Cheshire)
First child believe was Fanny born Hale and Christened Bowdon 1813.  (from LDS)
Assume marriage within Bowdon area.

thanks

wozwoz

Hi wozwoz and welcome to Rootschat.

I have had a look and can't see a match for the marriage anywhere.  However the indexes are like most resources and aren't complete so it doesn't mean that the marriage isn't there.

Sorry I can't be more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: wozwoz on Thursday 04 December 08 20:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking Jean, much appreciated. 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Thursday 18 December 08 20:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

I'm throwing my net a little wider for some of my Salford connections:

Thomas Delves to Margaret ??
probably about 1800 - 1805

They have a daughter baptised at a non-conformist chapel in Salford in 1803 but I can't see anything for them before then in the non-conformist records or in Lancashire & as he was a gardener / "agriculter" he presumably came from somewhere with fields  ;D

Many thanks

SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: johnthepom on Friday 19 December 08 05:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
would be gratefull if you could look up marriage between William Clarke b 1820-1821 Bridgemere and a lass named Hannah b 1820-1821 Hatherton first child born 1837 so they would obviously of neede permision as they were not of age and would assume both being born in Nantwich would of taken place there.

thanks john
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 19 December 08 08:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

I'm throwing my net a little wider for some of my Salford connections:

Thomas Delves to Margaret ??
probably about 1800 - 1805

They have a daughter baptised at a non-conformist chapel in Salford in 1803 but I can't see anything for them before then in the non-conformist records or in Lancashire & as he was a gardener / "agriculter" he presumably came from somewhere with fields  ;D

Many thanks

SandraC

Hi SandraC,

Just this match:

Thos DELVES, husb, m Mgt ARROWSMITH, sp, 22 Feb 1803 at Astbury

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 19 December 08 08:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
would be gratefull if you could look up marriage between William Clarke b 1820-1821 Bridgemere and a lass named Hannah b 1820-1821 Hatherton first child born 1837 so they would obviously of neede permision as they were not of age and would assume both being born in Nantwich would of taken place there.

thanks john

Hi John,

William CLARKE m Hannah LOCKETT 29 Dec 1836 at Wybunbury.  You can see the full details of the marriage here: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Both Bridgemere and Hatherton would have come under the parish of Wybunbury.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: johnthepom on Friday 19 December 08 10:28 GMT (UK)
Thank you JD gen

I am so thankfull i found this site you are a godsend as i am in australia and have been pulling my hairout because as you can imagine at the end of official records from here it becomes very difficult. thank you again. But hope you realise have opened a can of worms ill be asking allsorts.

John
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: SandraC on Friday 19 December 08 11:43 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Jean  ;D

I like this now I have it as there was an unexplained "Arrowsmith" middle name for a grandson down the line.

More Cheshire connections than I had thought then!

Regards
SandraC
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jayson on Tuesday 30 December 08 13:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Would it be possible for you to have a look for a marriage between Ann Barrow (a widow) to a gentleman with the surname of Scot sometime after 1798?

Many thanks

Jayson  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 30 December 08 14:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Would it be possible for you to have a look for a marriage between Ann Barrow (a widow) to a gentleman with the surname of Scot sometime after 1798?

Many thanks

Jayson  :)

Blimey Jayson, where do you find them?  Nothing on the indexes, the only one I can see is on the IGI in 1819 to Frances Scott in Bedminster, Somerset......

Any more clues?

Jean

PS. Had another look around on the LDS Pilot site, there is a marriage for Hannah Kelsall BARROW to Samuel SCOTT in 1831 at Wilmslow - is this too late?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jo Blake on Tuesday 30 December 08 21:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
Could you see if you could find a marriage for a George Critchley - he was born bet 1794-1801 in Nantwich. I feel the marriage may have been in the Macclesfield area as he had one son with this wife named Thomas Critchley b 1821 Macclesfield. So around 1820 I feel may be around the right date.
Thanks very much Jo ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 31 December 08 09:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
Could you see if you could find a marriage for a George Critchley - he was born bet 1794-1801 in Nantwich. I feel the marriage may have been in the Macclesfield area as he had one son with this wife named Thomas Critchley b 1821 Macclesfield. So around 1820 I feel may be around the right date.
Thanks very much Jo ;D

Hi Jo,

You don't give his wife's name, but is this a possible:

Geo CRITCHLEY, Cotton sp m Sarah DICKS, sp 4 Oct 1818 Prestbury (both of Macclesfield)

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jo Blake on Wednesday 31 December 08 16:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean
Thanks for that I will bear it in mind - I don't have his wifes name at all, my only reservation is that Georges occupation for 30/40 years was a tripe dresser, not cotton spinner. Thats not to say he changed occupations though is it. I will have a look at Sarah Dicks
Thanks very much again Happy New Year
Jo
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jayson on Monday 05 January 09 14:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks for looking.  I've found out the groom's first name which was Jonathan.  According to a book I have they were married in 1802 but nothing more precise than that.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mumsie2131 on Monday 05 January 09 15:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
Peter Bennett found me a marriage between John Ridgway and Martha Ashworth at St Mary Cheadle on the 27th June 1827 some time ago when I was 'chasing' marriages and deaths and maiden names of my Gt Gt grandparents.
Apart from 2 deaths in Yorkshire I have completed that and am wondering if there is any more info on Parents or witnesses given.
Dot
PS Glad you enjoyed your visit to Macclesfield.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jayson on Tuesday 06 January 09 10:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

It's me again.  :)  Could you see if there is a marriage for a William Bayley to a Catherine, please? They were mentioned in a will in 1803 in Nantwich.

Many thanks

Jayson
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 06 January 09 18:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

It's me again.  :)  Could you see if there is a marriage for a William Bayley to a Catherine, please? They were mentioned in a will in 1803 in Nantwich.

Many thanks

Jayson

Hi Jayson,

There is this one:

Wm BAYLEY otp m Catherine WILLIAMS, p Knutsford 5 May 1775 at Whitegate

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 06 January 09 18:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
Peter Bennett found me a marriage between John Ridgway and Martha Ashworth at St Mary Cheadle on the 27th June 1827 some time ago when I was 'chasing' marriages and deaths and maiden names of my Gt Gt grandparents.
Apart from 2 deaths in Yorkshire I have completed that and am wondering if there is any more info on Parents or witnesses given.
Dot
PS Glad you enjoyed your visit to Macclesfield.

Hi Mumsie2131,

The information is from an index - sometimes there is a little more information given but I have checked and there is nothing else there.  The date shown is 17th June 1827 (not 27th).  As you have the date I suggest that you contact Cheshire Records Office for the details - you can even order a copy of the parish record entry online for a small fee.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jayson on Wednesday 07 January 09 09:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks VERY much, Jean.  ;)

Jayson
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: spellbound on Thursday 08 January 09 10:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris, I am looking for Marriages of Percivals, in Ince, or Thornton Le Moors or Frodsham, Many thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: gilbert scott on Thursday 08 January 09 10:22 GMT (UK)
Hi spellbound i dont know why i am getting your post?


 gilbert
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: spellbound on Thursday 08 January 09 10:50 GMT (UK)
Hi spellbound i dont know why i am getting your post?


 gilbert
Dont know myself, sorry
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mumsie2131 on Thursday 08 January 09 16:09 GMT (UK)
 :) :) :)
Thanks very much Jean - I didn't know about getting copies of Parish Records, could be very helpful.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 11 January 09 09:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris, I am looking for Marriages of Percivals, in Ince, or Thornton Le Moors or Frodsham, Many thanks

Hi spellbound and welcome to Rootschat!

Percival is a very common name in Cheshire and it isn't possible to do blanket lookups for a surname.  Do you have any specific marriages pre 1837 that you want a search for?

Happy to help if you can give some details.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jackie45 on Sunday 18 January 09 21:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

I wonder if you can help me out too please?

Another very kind Rootschatter has recently helped me find loads of information through various sites which inevitably gives you more research to do!

Please can you look up the following for me?:-

John Royle - m - Esther ???  I think around 1814???

They had a daughter Ellen who was born in 1816 and christened in Carrington, Cheshire on 27.10.1816.

I would just like to know Esther's maiden name, if and when they were married and where.  Plus dob's if you can!???

Many thanks in anticipation........

Jackie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jackie45 on Monday 19 January 09 12:03 GMT (UK)
Hi,

After a bit of digging around and another Rootchatter's help I have managed to find out Esther's maiden name was Wood and she was born around 1783, they married in 1807.

So I think I have found the answers I wanted!!!!!!

Thanks for reading this anyway.

Sorry if I've put you to any trouble in the meantime.

Jackie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Tuesday 20 January 09 15:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Please will you see if you can find a marriage between an  Elizabeth Woodward and Peter Pemberton which I think took place in Frodsham on 27.12.1832.   I think her father was called John - is her father's name given?

Please will you also see if you can find a marriage for a John Woodward around 1800-1810.  Is his father shown as George?  I'm hoping there are two marriages for John Woodwards and that one is not Elizabeth Hayes.

Please will you also see if you can find a marriage of a George Woodward in the mid 1700s.

I am very confused with my Woodward ancestors  and  I think the key to the puzzle is finding out who John Woodward married and, hopefully, if his father's name is shown.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 20 January 09 21:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Please will you see if you can find a marriage between an  Elizabeth Woodward and Peter Pemberton which I think took place in Frodsham on 27.12.1832.   I think her father was called John - is her father's name given?

Please will you also see if you can find a marriage for a John Woodward around 1800-1810.  Is his father shown as George?  I'm hoping there are two marriages for John Woodwards and that one is not Elizabeth Hayes.

Please will you also see if you can find a marriage of a George Woodward in the mid 1700s.

I am very confused with my Woodward ancestors  and  I think the key to the puzzle is finding out who John Woodward married and, hopefully, if his father's name is shown.

Lizzie

Hi Lizzie,

1.  Peter PEMBERTON m Betsy WOODWARD 27th December 1832 at Frodsham.  The witnesses were M HAYES and John WOODWARD - father's name is not given at this time but the witnesses may help!

2.  John WOODWARD p. Weverham m Nancy ROBINSON 26 Dec 1803 at Northenden
John WOODWARD m Elizb HAYES 6 May 1805 at Frodsham
John WOODWARD m Mary ELLISON 4 Apr 1808 at Runcorn

3.  George WOODWARD m Mgt DOD 16 Apr 1759 at Frodsham
George WOODWARD m Mary BELL 15 Nov 1768 at Frodsham

No other details given for 2. and 3.

Hope this helps,

Jean

PS.  There are a few WOODWARD wills that look to be in the right area - they might help to link the families: http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/Wills/
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 21 January 09 00:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you Jean. 

As the witnesses to Peter Pemberton's and Elizabeth (Betsy) Woodward's marriage were a John Woodward and an M Hayes, I think it is probably a safe bet that her parents were John Woodward(1) and Elizabeth Hayes.  From IGI, it appears that his parents were a John Woodward(2) and a Mary Hughes.  Apparently their marriage was on 7 October 1773.  Is it possible for you to look at that marriage, i.e. John Woodward(2) and Mary Hughes and see if there are any witnesses or parents listed.

I already have a will of a George Woodward who I was told was Elizabeth Woodwards's grandfather, but it seems that is wrong and I have a will of a John Woodward which I only received this week.  Now I know that the one I want married Elizabeth Hayes, I will do a search on IGI for any children to see if the names match the ones on the will.  If they don't then I have another wrong will. ::)  Maybe I should have remembered this thread before I ordered the will.

Many thanks.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 21 January 09 15:48 GMT (UK)
Jean - Presumably if I contact Cheshire CC Archives, they will be able to provide copies of any of the parish records you have quoted.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Cheryl_US on Wednesday 21 January 09 19:17 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the offer!  I'm hoping you can check for John Tynan who married Margaret Nelson in the late 1820s to early 1830s.  They lived in Hollingworth, Longdendale (1839 and 1841) and left England by 1842.

THANKS!
Cheryl  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 22 January 09 09:11 GMT (UK)
Jean - Presumably if I contact Cheshire CC Archives, they will be able to provide copies of any of the parish records you have quoted.

Lizzie

Hi Lizzie,

I only have an index so it is just lucky if the witnesses are listed and there is nothing for the 1773 marriage but it is on the index as 7 Oct 1773 at Frodsham.

Cheshire Records Office will provide copies of the parish register and their charges are reasonable.  You can order online from their website.

You will probably find that the Woodwards are all connected somewhere so the will won't be a waste!  ;)

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 22 January 09 09:15 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the offer!  I'm hoping you can check for John Tynan who married Margaret Nelson in the late 1820s to early 1830s.  They lived in Hollingworth, Longdendale (1839 and 1841) and left England by 1842.

THANKS!
Cheryl  :)

Hi Cheryl,

I'm sorry, but their are no TYNAN marriages listed on my index - they aren't complete though so it doesn't mean it didn't take place where you think - Mottram in Longdendale seems the most likely option.

Sorry I can't be more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Thursday 22 January 09 10:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks for all the info I have loads of Cheshire ancestors and you are right, I think the Woodwards are all intertwined, that's why it's difficult to sort them out.  Another Woodward ancestor told me that a George Woodward was Elizabeth Woodward's grandfather, but that now appears wrong, so I'll have to go all through the previous info I had. 

Is the index that you have, Phillimore or Bertram Merrill?

Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Cheryl_US on Thursday 22 January 09 12:52 GMT (UK)
Jean,
Thanks very much for checking!
Cheryl
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Elizabeth Revel on Friday 23 January 09 12:54 GMT (UK)
On the 1841 census William TURNER, Whitesmith, born 1811, of Warrington says he was not born in the county.
On the same census William TURNER, Whitesmith, born 1781, of Warrington also says he was not born in the county.
By 1851 William TURNER, the younger of the two whitesmiths has died but the older one with the same daughter but a new wife, says he was born in Chester, Chester.
The son of the William who died early also became a whitesmith so it seems possible that the older man was father to the younger and took his grandson under his wing.
Checking the Cheshire Parish Record Project, I see that William Senior and two siblings appear to be the offspring of William TURNER and Sarah, born 1776, 1781 and 1783 and baptized Chester, St. Mary.
Do you have a marriage for William and Sarah 1775 ish and also William and Ann around 1806? I found his second marriage to Jane on Free BMD.

Thank you for taking time to read this.
Beth

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 23 January 09 16:49 GMT (UK)
On the 1841 census William TURNER, Whitesmith, born 1811, of Warrington says he was not born in the county.
On the same census William TURNER, Whitesmith, born 1781, of Warrington also says he was not born in the county.
By 1851 William TURNER, the younger of the two whitesmiths has died but the older one with the same daughter but a new wife, says he was born in Chester, Chester.
The son of the William who died early also became a whitesmith so it seems possible that the older man was father to the younger and took his grandson under his wing.
Checking the Cheshire Parish Record Project, I see that William Senior and two siblings appear to be the offspring of William TURNER and Sarah, born 1776, 1781 and 1783 and baptized Chester, St. Mary.
Do you have a marriage for William and Sarah 1775 ish and also William and Ann around 1806? I found his second marriage to Jane on Free BMD.

Thank you for taking time to read this.
Beth

Hello Beth,

I've had a good look round but can't see anything that fits.  There is a marriage of a William TURNER to Ann TAYLOR at Prestbury 16 Jun 1805 but he is described as a Cotton Spinner from Rainow.  I've also had a look at the Lancashire OPC site at the Warrington records but nothing there either, and no William TURNER wills for anyone with the occupation Whitesmith.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Elizabeth Revel on Saturday 24 January 09 02:07 GMT (UK)

Thank you Jean.

Re the TURNERS: Finding the Whitesmith occupation seemed like a gift. Sorry it didn't take me any further.

Beth
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: erko on Saturday 24 January 09 02:08 GMT (UK)
hello Chris

I am looking for the marriage of Thomas Kenyon and Phoebe Cashier ( Chesher)in Stockport. They list Stockport on census as place of birth and all children born there,
I am assuming that the marriage would be between 1802 and 1813. The first child I have located was born in 1813.
I hope that this is not too wide a time frame
Thankyou for your offer

Jennifer
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 24 January 09 09:24 GMT (UK)
hello Chris

I am looking for the marriage of Thomas Kenyon and Phoebe Cashier ( Chesher)in Stockport. They list Stockport on census as place of birth and all children born there,
I am assuming that the marriage would be between 1802 and 1813. The first child I have located was born in 1813.
I hope that this is not too wide a time frame
Thankyou for your offer

Jennifer

Hi Jennifer,

I think this might be it:

Thomas KENYON married Phebe KERSHAW 24 Sep 1810 at Cheadle.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: erko on Sunday 25 January 09 00:58 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean

Thankyou somuch fornot only finding this marriage but also for cleverly waorking out that cashier was Kershaw. I have been searching for Phoebe's name for a number of years always unsuccessfully. You have opened up a new branch  in my family tree.

jennifer
Sydney
Australia
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Lazylover on Wednesday 28 January 09 11:37 GMT (UK)
Hiya

I'm looking for information about a marriage around 1817 in St. Oswald, Chester between

William DARLINGTON and Ann

Sorry I don't have Ann's surname.

Thanks in advance

Carole
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 28 January 09 18:45 GMT (UK)
Hiya

I'm looking for information about a marriage around 1817 in St. Oswald, Chester between

William DARLINGTON and Ann

Sorry I don't have Ann's surname.

Thanks in advance

Carole

Hi Carole,

William DARLINGTON m Ann RADCLIFFE 30 Sep 1817 at Chester St Oswald

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Lazylover on Wednesday 28 January 09 20:53 GMT (UK)
Jean

Thank you  ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Carole4 on Thursday 29 January 09 16:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
I am looking for a marriage of Thomas Preston.
Thomas was born c1792 Macclesfield. He had a daughter Jane born c1822.
I know he married 23 Feb 1835 in Prestbury to a widow Margaret Barlow.
I am looking for his first marriage, so I can have the name of Jane's mother.
Can you help?
Thanks, Carole
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 29 January 09 19:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
I am looking for a marriage of Thomas Preston.
Thomas was born c1792 Macclesfield. He had a daughter Jane born c1822.
I know he married 23 Feb 1835 in Prestbury to a widow Margaret Barlow.
I am looking for his first marriage, so I can have the name of Jane's mother.
Can you help?
Thanks, Carole

Hi Carole,

There doesn't look to be anything obvious for the dates that you are looking.

Thos PRESTON m Eliz. WHITTINGHAM 12 Feb 1816 at Middlewich
Thomas PRESTON m Fanny WALKER 13 Oct 1824 at Chester St Oswald
Thos PRESTON m Maria GRIMES 15 Feb 1825 at Cheadle

These are from indexes and no further information is given.  I see from the index that Thomas was a butcher when he married Margaret.

I think you may need to find a baptism for Jane to help you identify the right marriage.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Carole4 on Thursday 29 January 09 22:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking Jean.
All I know for sure is Jane was 25 when she married in 1849.
Her father is recorded as Thomas Preston, Butcher.
Jane & some of her children are with Thomas & Margaret
in the 1861 Census in Macclesfield.
There Jane is recorded as born 1822 Macclesfield.
In 1871 Jane is listed as being born Born Rainow Cheshire.
So I will keep searching for her baptism.
Thanks again, Carole
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Gaille on Friday 30 January 09 01:41 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Could you see if you can fnd a marriage for James Flint (b 1791) and Martha (b 1786)
Ages aprox from Cencus sorry.
Macclesfield area - May be Bollington Or Rainow - Family moved around a small area a lot!

Thank you for the offer :)

Gaille
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 30 January 09 19:18 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Could you see if you can fnd a marriage for James Flint (b 1791) and Martha (b 1786)
Ages aprox from Cencus sorry.
Macclesfield area - May be Bollington Or Rainow - Family moved around a small area a lot!

Thank you for the offer :)

Gaille

Hi Gaille,

Sorry, I have checked but the marriage is not on my indexes.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kwiffboy on Friday 30 January 09 19:43 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am trying to find the Maiden name of my GGGG Grandfather's wife, and also hopefully his fathers  first name so I can try and take the line back even further.

He was called Thomas Davenport, Born in Haughton Moss, Bunbury, Cheshire abt 1801. His wife was Mary.

I have included an image of the 1841 census showing their family and also a descendants chart that may offer a little more information.

Many thanks for offer, regardless of whether or not it bears fruit.

M Davenport.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 30 January 09 20:50 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am trying to find the Maiden name of my GGGG Grandfather's wife, and also hopefully his fathers  first name so I can try and take the line back even further.

He was called Thomas Davenport, Born in Haughton Moss, Bunbury, Cheshire abt 1801. His wife was Mary.

I have included an image of the 1841 census showing their family and also a descendants chart that may offer a little more information.

Many thanks for offer, regardless of whether or not it bears fruit.

M Davenport.

Hi M Davenport,

I assume that you mean the marriage of James DAVENPORT to Mary from the information you have provided.  This looks to be the closest match based on the fact that the ages are rounded down in the 1841 census:

James DAVENPORT m Mary GROWCOTE 29 Dec 1818 at Bunbury St Boniface

Jean

PS.  I have removed the 1841 census image as it is a breach of copyright.....see this link for more information: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,104159.0.html
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: forthefamily on Friday 30 January 09 21:14 GMT (UK)
Hello

I wonder if you could take a look for a marriage of a James Dooley (b. abt 1799) to a Mary Ann Jennett (b. abt 1814). I think it may have been a second marriage for James but I'm not sure  :-\

Thank you very much.

mab
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Gaille on Friday 30 January 09 21:34 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Could you see if you can fnd a marriage for James Flint (b 1791) and Martha (b 1786)
Ages aprox from Cencus sorry.
Macclesfield area - May be Bollington Or Rainow - Family moved around a small area a lot!

Thank you for the offer :)

Gaille


Hi Gaille,

Sorry, I have checked but the marriage is not on my indexes.

Jean

Thank you for looking, I thought it was a long shot without all the details.

lol I may have some more down in Crewe area, but I havent figured out whos who yet!

Gaille
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 31 January 09 09:47 GMT (UK)
Hello

I wonder if you could take a look for a marriage of a James Dooley (b. abt 1799) to a Mary Ann Jennett (b. abt 1814). I think it may have been a second marriage for James but I'm not sure  :-\

Thank you very much.

mab

Hi mab,

Have checked but can't find a likely marriage.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: forthefamily on Saturday 31 January 09 15:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean.....they are being very illusive  ;D

mab
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kwiffboy on Monday 02 February 09 17:54 GMT (UK)
JDGen,

Many thanks for finding a possible James & Mary for me.

Also, apologies for the infringement - a slip that wont happen again.

Regards,

M Davenport
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 02 February 09 18:04 GMT (UK)
JDGen,

Many thanks for finding a possible James & Mary for me.

Also, apologies for the infringement - a slip that wont happen again.

Regards,

M Davenport

Not a problem - that's what we are here for!  Hope it is the right marriage.....

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dave Martin on Tuesday 10 February 09 22:35 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Looking for the marriage of John Johnson born in Newton and Margaret born in Tarvin. Both were born abt 1795 so marriage would be around 1815 -20.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Dave
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 11 February 09 18:51 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Looking for the marriage of John Johnson born in Newton and Margaret born in Tarvin. Both were born abt 1795 so marriage would be around 1815 -20.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Dave

Hi Dave,

The only one I can see is this:

John JOHNSON m Margaret HOLT 23 May 1825 at Bowdon by Licence

It seems a bit late for your marriage, and the area doesn't look right.  Perhaps it is worth putting a post on the main Cheshire lookup board with any census information you have (with refs if possible) and children's births.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Dave Martin on Wednesday 11 February 09 22:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thanks for the effort....I've found that one on the IGI and I don't think its the right one either.

I'll put a post on shortly.

Dave
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: hodgey on Thursday 12 February 09 15:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Gareth,
I have just seen your post,i am also researching this line!I don't know if you have managed to get any further since but I have found these details which may help?

Charlotte Thomas born 23 sept 1800, baptised 2 nov 1800 at holy trinity chester [IGI].

Harriett Thomas born 19 jul 1795, baptised 8 nov 1795 also at trinity.[IGI]

parents are Edward Thomas and Sarah.

Hope this helps, best wishes Linda  :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jen3435 on Monday 16 February 09 02:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

Have just found your offer again and thought i'd see if you could help.
Am looking for a James BEDSON = chester area. Born roughly aound 1801 ish. His son Joseph was born in 1827 though and married Ann Findlow. Joseph went on to change the family name to BENSON. No info why though! Joseph was also a trustee of the methodist church in Huxley, which is where he brought up his children.
James' wife was called Sarah.....i think and there was a daughter named Martha and another son named james. Both older than Joseph?
They would have been either labourers or farmers. Joseph began a labourer but became a farmer, which has progressed to my fathers generation.

Many thanks in advance for your help, which would be fantastic!

Jenny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 16 February 09 19:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

Have just found your offer again and thought i'd see if you could help.
Am looking for a James BEDSON = chester area. Born roughly aound 1801 ish. His son Joseph was born in 1827 though and married Ann Findlow. Joseph went on to change the family name to BENSON. No info why though! Joseph was also a trustee of the methodist church in Huxley, which is where he brought up his children.
James' wife was called Sarah.....i think and there was a daughter named Martha and another son named james. Both older than Joseph?
They would have been either labourers or farmers. Joseph began a labourer but became a farmer, which has progressed to my fathers generation.

Many thanks in advance for your help, which would be fantastic!

Jenny

Hi Jenny,

The only marriage I can see in the right timescale is this:

James BEDSON and Elizabeth SPROSON m 29 Apr 1824 at Wybunbury, witnesses Samuel BEDSON and Ann SPROSON.  You can see the details here:
http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Jean

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jen3435 on Monday 16 February 09 21:33 GMT (UK)
hi jean, many thanks for this, i will have a look and see.

jenny
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Scott1940 on Wednesday 18 February 09 21:33 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris,

I am looking for any marriages for Robinson of Wharton pre 1837.

Many thanks.

Yvonne Harris
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rocky3 on Thursday 19 February 09 11:26 GMT (UK)
Hi,

could you please look for the marriage of James Hayes to Ellen ?? around 1815, please? First known child baptized 1818 in  Barnton, Great Budworth. James was a blacksmith.

thanks very much,

rocky
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 19 February 09 18:37 GMT (UK)
Hello Chris,

I am looking for any marriages for Robinson of Wharton pre 1837.

Many thanks.

Yvonne Harris

Hi Yvonne,

It isn't possible to blanket surname lookups - can you supply some more specific details and I will have a look for you.

Jean

PS.  As Wharton came under Davenham parish you may find what you are looking for here:
http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 19 February 09 18:50 GMT (UK)
Hi,

could you please look for the marriage of James Hayes to Ellen ?? around 1815, please? First known child baptized 1818 in  Barnton, Great Budworth. James was a blacksmith.

thanks very much,

rocky

Hi rocky,

The only one I can see is this:

James HAYES, of Wybunbury m Harriet Ellen BEVAN 14 Apr 1819 at Wigan (Lancs) by licence

Seems to be wrong area and wrong date though..... :(

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rocky3 on Thursday 19 February 09 19:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean, :D

I have seen this one too, but doesn't seem to fit. Most of the family came from Barnton, Little Leigh.

Anyway, thanks very much for your help,

rocky.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sparkle on Thursday 19 February 09 20:40 GMT (UK)
Hi, My Gggreat Grandparents Joseph Harrison b1790 Mottram in Longdendale Cheshire Married in St Micheal & all Angels Church Mottram abt 1812 to Sarah Clayton, they had many children 2 Son's Samuel who died soon after Birth, Daughters Sarah- Elizabeth Hannah- Eliza- Mary Ann- Jane-Harriet-(not in that order) Joseph b 1830- Allan 1834?- Allan died aged 25.
    Harriet Harrison Married Joshua Hall abt 1861/2 son of Robert Hall Cotton Mill Owner, Robert Hall & Son Ltd they lived in Newton Hyde Cheshire & Had 5 Sons, Joshua took over later & lived in Kingston House.
    I would be gratefull for any information,
        with Thanks,
           Anne.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Scott1940 on Thursday 19 February 09 20:47 GMT (UK)
Hello Jean,

Thank you for giving me the Cheshire project website.

I am sure it will be very helpful.

Yvonne
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sueky71 on Friday 20 February 09 13:23 GMT (UK)
Hi
Its a bit of a long shot, but
Could you check for a marriage for a SARAH COTTON (no grooms name known)between 1820 - 1837.
It would possibly have been in the CREWE area. The family tended to stay in the parishes of Alsager/Barthomley/Haslington.
I have her marrying George Beech in Odd Rode in 1839 but the cert doesnt show condition. The 1841 census shows her in Alsager with George and a 13yr old daughter (Mary Cotton)
I presume Mary was illegitimate, and that Sarah never married previous to George, but just in case...........
Many thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 20 February 09 17:56 GMT (UK)
Hi, My Gggreat Grandparents Joseph Harrison b1790 Mottram in Longdendale Cheshire Married in St Micheal & all Angels Church Mottram abt 1812 to Sarah Clayton, they had many children 2 Son's Samuel who died soon after Birth, Daughters Sarah- Elizabeth Hannah- Eliza- Mary Ann- Jane-Harriet-(not in that order) Joseph b 1830- Allan 1834?- Allan died aged 25.
    Harriet Harrison Married Joshua Hall abt 1861/2 son of Robert Hall Cotton Mill Owner, Robert Hall & Son Ltd they lived in Newton Hyde Cheshire & Had 5 Sons, Joshua took over later & lived in Kingston Hall.
    I would be gratefull for any information,
        with Thanks,
           Anne.

Hi Anne,

Jos. HARRISON m Sarah CLAYTON 14 Jul 1812 at Mottram in Longdendale

Harriet HARRISON m Joshua HALL in 1860 at Mottram in Longdendale St Michael (see www.cheshirebmd.org.uk).

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 20 February 09 18:01 GMT (UK)
Hi
Its a bit of a long shot, but
Could you check for a marriage for a SARAH COTTON (no grooms name known)between 1820 - 1837.
It would possibly have been in the CREWE area. The family tended to stay in the parishes of Alsager/Barthomley/Haslington.
I have her marrying George Beech in Odd Rode in 1839 but the cert doesnt show condition. The 1841 census shows her in Alsager with George and a 13yr old daughter (Mary Cotton)
I presume Mary was illegitimate, and that Sarah never married previous to George, but just in case...........
Many thanks

Hi Sueky71,

If you know that her maiden name was COTTON and the daughter was as well I think that she would not have been married previously.  Otherwise the lookup is for a Sarah ? married to a male COTTON which is a bit of a tall order and there is no information to cross check with.

I would suggest that you try to find the baptism for the daughter to see what the parish register entry says, then at least you would have a first name for the father if he was named.

If you want some help with the baptism lookup, post a separate request on the main Cheshire lookup board.

Hope this is of some help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sparkle on Friday 20 February 09 19:21 GMT (UK)
Hi, My Gggreat Grandparents Joseph Harrison b1790 Mottram in Longdendale Cheshire Married in St Micheal & all Angels Church Mottram abt 1812 to Sarah Clayton, they had many children 2 Son's Samuel who died soon after Birth, Daughters Sarah- Elizabeth Hannah- Eliza- Mary Ann- Jane-Harriet-(not in that order) Joseph b 1830- Allan 1834?- Allan died aged 25.
    Harriet Harrison Married Joshua Hall abt 1860, son of Robert Hall Cotton Mill Owner, Robert Hall & Son Ltd they lived in Newton Hyde Cheshire & Had 5 Sons, Joshua & Joseph Harrison Hall took over later & lived in Kingston House.
I have found Joshua Hall Junior  Cotton Spinner & Manufacturer .( Son of Joshua & Harriet Hall nee Harrison) in 1911 Census Married in 1898 to Alice Bland, Children - Son George Bland Hall aged 11 yrs Student.
 Daughter Harriet Gertrude Hall aged 8 yrs.
Daughter Dora hall aged 5 yrs.
Daughter Alice Kathleen Hall aged 2 Yrs.
Amy Grace Andrews Aged 34 Yrs Nursery Governess.b Lancs Manchester.
Isabella Esson aged 21 Cook Domestic. b liverpool Lancs
Lizzie Harris aged  29 Housemaid Domestic b   Rugeley Staffordshire.
Florence Stoup Aged 26 Housemaid Waitress domestic b Liverpool Lancs. Address. Further Hey,
Werneth Road,  Bredbury, Cheshire District Stockport.
Joseph Harrison Hall  b Hyde Cheshire aged 42 yrs Cotton Spinner Manufacturer Single. (Son of Joshua & Harriet Hall nee Harrison).
Lydia Swindell aged 38 Single House Keeper/ Domestic.
Address. "The Mount" Romiley Cheshire.

    I would be grateful for any information,
        with Thanks,
           Anne.

Hi Anne,

Jos. HARRISON m Sarah CLAYTON 14 Jul 1812 at Mottram in Longdendale

Harriet HARRISON m Joshua HALL in 1860 at Mottram in Longdendale St Michael (see www.cheshirebmd.org.uk).

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sueky71 on Friday 20 February 09 19:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Just looked again at Sarahs M cert and it shows her father as JOHN COTTON. So if she'd married previous, she would have married a COTTON  :-\
Not impossible, as there was alot of them around, but unlikely really (although stranger things have happened!)
I agree the best way forward would be to try and find daughter Mary's baptism instead.
Thanks again
Sueky
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sparkle on Friday 20 February 09 22:52 GMT (UK)
Hi, My Gggreat Grandparents Joseph Harrison b1790 Mottram in Longdendale Cheshire Married in St Micheal & all Angels Church Mottram abt 1812 to Sarah Clayton, they had many children 2 Son's Samuel who died Dec 29th 1814 aged 1 month old.  Samuel died dec 9th 1821 aged 2 weeks old., Daughters Sarah died 14th June 1869 aged 44 yrs. Elizabeth Hannah died 8th May 1854 aged 41 Yrs.- Eliza Died Aug 29th 1879 aged 55 yrs.- Mary Ann Married widower John Clayton - Jane Married Joseph Turnock.-Harriet -(not in that order) Joseph b 1830- Allan 1833?- Allan died aged 25 on Sept 1st 1858.
    Harriet Harrison Married Joshua Hall abt 1861/2 son of Robert Hall Cotton Mill Owner, Robert Hall & Son Ltd they lived in Newton Hyde Cheshire & Had 5 Sons, Joshua took over later & lived in Kingston House,
    I would be grateful for any information,
        with Thanks,
           Anne.

Hi Anne,

Jos. HARRISON m Sarah CLAYTON 14 Jul 1812 at Mottram in Longdendale

Harriet HARRISON m Joshua HALL in 1860 at Mottram in Longdendale St Michael (see www.cheshirebmd.org.uk).

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ROSANNA J on Sunday 01 March 09 20:51 GMT (UK)
Looking for Poole marriages in Northwich 1770-80
also -Audley marriages in  Neston 1760-70,   Gerrard in Sutton,  George Wakefield who married Ann[unknown] in Frodsham, all in 1770s, finally Thomas Yewd to an Eleanor in area of Weaverham in 1740s
Rosanna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Monday 02 March 09 11:18 GMT (UK)
good morning Chris...If you can possibly help...
I have thru csc parish records
elizabeth Oakes b1776
peter b 1779
DANIEL OAKES B 1782......THESE 3 BABTISMS IN BACKFORD (parents Ralph and Mary unknown)
Daniel then marries an Elizabeth unknown and they then have 3 children
Thomas Oakes 1817 born Poulton cum Spittle or Neston
Mary Oakes b 1820 born Neston
William b 1822.......born Neston
I am trying to find the Maiden name of Elizabeth who married Daniel......cheers...allan oakes ;)
ps you have already looked for Mary (ralphs wife ) with no luck...I appreciate you giving your time like this.. :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Rubbish on Tuesday 03 March 09 11:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
Does Phillimore cover Great Budworth?
I am looking for all marriages of Worralls of Cogshall in the parish of Great Budworth prior to1662. I should be grateful ifyou could let me have any results for G Budworth and Cogshall in particular.
Thanks,

Paul aka Rubbish
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 03 March 09 18:14 GMT (UK)
good morning Chris...If you can possibly help...
I have thru csc parish records
elizabeth Oakes b1776
peter b 1779
DANIEL OAKES B 1782......THESE 3 BABTISMS IN BACKFORD (parents Ralph and Mary unknown)
Daniel then marries an Elizabeth unknown and they then have 3 children
Thomas Oakes 1817 born Poulton cum Spittle or Neston
Mary Oakes b 1820 born Neston
William b 1822.......born Neston
I am trying to find the Maiden name of Elizabeth who married Daniel......cheers...allan oakes ;)
ps you have already looked for Mary (ralphs wife ) with no luck...I appreciate you giving your time like this.. :)

Hi Allan,

There are a couple of marriages that might be of interest but none for a Daniel OAKES.

Ralph OAKES m Mary SMITH Feb 1756 at Sandbach
Ralph OAKS, husbandman m Mary TRELFA sp 2 Jan 1758 Over St Chad

They do seem a bit early for your Ralph though.  Checked OAKES, OAKES, OKES

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 03 March 09 18:25 GMT (UK)
Looking for Poole marriages in Northwich 1770-80
also -Audley marriages in  Neston 1760-70,   Gerrard in Sutton,  George Wakefield who married Ann[unknown] in Frodsham, all in 1770s, finally Thomas Yewd to an Eleanor in area of Weaverham in 1740s
Rosanna

Hi Rosanna,

I can't do blanket surname lookups, but have checked the individual ones.  I can't find a George WAKEFIELD marriage but can confirm that the marriage didn't take place at Frodsham as I have the indexes.

The closest I can find is:
Thomas YOUDE m Ellen PULFORD 4 Oct 1761 by licence at Farndon.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 03 March 09 18:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,
Does Phillimore cover Great Budworth?
I am looking for all marriages of Worralls of Cogshall in the parish of Great Budworth prior to1662. I should be grateful ifyou could let me have any results for G Budworth and Cogshall in particular.
Thanks,

Paul aka Rubbish

Sorry Paul, I can't do blanket lookup requests.  If you can supply a specific name I'd be happy to have a look for you.

Thanks

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ROSANNA J on Tuesday 03 March 09 19:38 GMT (UK)
Jean, the Poole couple I am looking for are the parents of Randall Poole born 1780 in Northwich, if that's any help.
Rosanna
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 03 March 09 21:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean....I did originally have Mary Telfa as Ralphs husband but I had no proof ,so I have left it in obeyance....thanks for you time....allan ;)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Rubbish on Wednesday 04 March 09 12:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,


I should be grateful if you could find a marriage of Thomas Worrall of Cogshall, Great Budworth about 1600.

THANKS,

Paul
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jason_madams on Saturday 07 March 09 20:37 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Do have any information on the Ardern family?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sparkle on Saturday 07 March 09 21:51 GMT (UK)
Hi, My Gggreat Grandparents Joseph Harrison b1790 Mottram in Longdendale Cheshire Married in St Micheal & all Angels Church Mottram abt 1812 to Sarah Clayton, they had many children 2 Son's Samuel who died soon after Birth, Daughters Sarah- Elizabeth Hannah- Eliza- Mary Ann- Jane-Harriet-(not in that order) Joseph b 1830- Allan 1834?- Allan died aged 25.
    Harriet Harrison Married Joshua Hall abt 1861/2 son of Robert Hall Cotton Mill Owner, Robert Hall & Son Ltd they lived in Newton Hyde Cheshire & Had 5 Sons, Joshua took over later & lived in Kingston Hall.
I have found Joseph Harrison's b 1853 Mottram Wife  Elizabeth nee Burgess in 1881 Denton a Visiitor to her Parent's with Son Allan 10 Joseph 7 months old,In 1891 Census living in End of 7 Hyde Road Denton with Elizabeth widow aged 35-Son Allan 15-son Joseph aged 10.
1901 Census.8 Bowden Street Denton  Elizabeth 47- Son Allan Harrison 25 Blacksmith--Maggie 25 Wife nee Bickerdike-Mary Elizabeth aged 1 month-Joseph Harrison 20 Son Cycle Builder.our Grandad Joseph Brown & Sister Harriet lived with them from 1886- to abt 1890 until their uncle joseph Harrison Died in 1890.
1911 Census-38 Pitt Street-Allan Harrison Head aged 35 Blacksmith Shoeing Smith -Maggie aged 35- Mary Elizabeth 10- Herbert 7 B 10th August 1903-Edith 5 b 15th Feb 1906- May 3-born Denton-Elizabeth 58 Widow Mother - May T May Pilkinton,
Allans wife Maggie Died aged 39 in 1916-he Remarried in 1921 to Clarice A Southworth. Edith Harrison Emigrated to Perth Australia abt 1948 with Fiance? Billy Phillips possibly married before leaving?,Edith lived with Grandm'a Margaret & Joseph Brown for a while in her Teens,She lived in Wythenshawe Manchester  later,
   I would be gratefull for any information,
        with Thanks,
           Anne.

Hi Anne,

Jos. HARRISON m Sarah CLAYTON 14 Jul 1812 at Mottram in Longdendale

Harriet HARRISON m Joshua HALL in 1860 at Mottram in Longdendale St Michael (see www.cheshirebmd.org.uk).

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 08 March 09 07:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,


I should be grateful if you could find a marriage of Thomas Worrall of Cogshall, Great Budworth about 1600.

THANKS,

Paul

Hi Paul,

These are the closest I can find:

Thomas WORRALL m Margret BULKLEY 10 Mar 1598 Chester Holy Trinity
Thomas WORRALL m Johanna BENNET 14 Apr 1628 Great Budworth St Mary

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 08 March 09 07:40 GMT (UK)
Jean, the Poole couple I am looking for are the parents of Randall Poole born 1780 in Northwich, if that's any help.
Rosanna

Hi Rosanna,

I think that you need to find the baptism of Randall Poole before you look for the marriage.  Poole is not an uncommon name and without the baptism you won't be able to identify the correct marriage.  I'd suggest that you start with the Witton St Helen parish registers if you are certain that Randle was from Northwich.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 08 March 09 07:44 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Do have any information on the Ardern family?

Many thanks

Hi jason_madams,

Please can you post a specific request - there are over 250 ARDERN (+ name variants) marriages on the pre 1837 marriage indexes.

Thanks

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Rubbish on Sunday 08 March 09 09:29 GMT (UK)
Jean,

Many Thanks,

Paul
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jason_madams on Sunday 08 March 09 09:32 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for James Ardern who married Elizabeth? in Wilmslow abot 1825 to 1835. Also a John Ardern married to Amy around 1800 in the Wilmslow area.Any information on the family in the Wilmslow and Bollington area would be great.
Thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 08 March 09 11:39 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for James Ardern who married Elizabeth? in Wilmslow abot 1825 to 1835. Also a John Ardern married to Amy around 1800 in the Wilmslow area.Any information on the family in the Wilmslow and Bollington area would be great.
Thanks

Hi jason_madams,

John ARDERN m Amy FARRINGTON 19 Dec 1797 at Wilmslow

Closest I can see for James is:
James ARDERN m Elizabeth MELLOR 25 Feb 1827 at Cheadle

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jason_madams on Sunday 08 March 09 11:57 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much, that is great.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: alanstockport on Sunday 08 March 09 17:17 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the marrage in Stockport of Betty ? who became a Ridgway and lived in the Portwood area with her two daughters Hannah and Fanny. Hannah married a Walters. Fanny had two children but did not marry. In 1841 they lived in Little Moor Stockport . Betty was born in 1787, Fanny in 1811 and Hannah in 1806 Any details of Betty's or Hannah's marrages please
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 09 March 09 07:45 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the marrage in Stockport of Betty ? who became a Ridgway and lived in the Portwood area with her two daughters Hannah and Fanny. Hannah married a Walters. Fanny had two children but did not marry. In 1841 they lived in Little Moor Stockport . Betty was born in 1787, Fanny in 1811 and Hannah in 1806 Any details of Betty's or Hannah's marrages please

Hi alanstockport,

These look the most likely:

David RIDGWAY, farmer m Betty BROOKES 24 Oct 1806 at Stockport
Hannah RIDGWAY m Wm WALTERS 10 Feb 1828 at Cheadle

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: alanstockport on Monday 09 March 09 13:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the information about the Ridgway's, we have been stuck for a long time , this may get us moving again, don't suppose you have any other information on the marrages, church? parents names etc.
Anyway thanks again
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 09 March 09 18:25 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the information about the Ridgway's, we have been stuck for a long time , this may get us moving again, don't suppose you have any other information on the marrages, church? parents names etc.
Anyway thanks again

Hi alanstockport,

I think that you will need the parish churches, the information given is from indexes, there is no other detail.

I suspect they will be Stockport St Mary and Cheadle St Mary - as you have the dates you could order copies of the register entries online from Cheshire Records Office for a small fee.  They are unlikely to have parents names unless they were witnesses.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Tuesday 10 March 09 18:22 GMT (UK)
Hi :)

Do you have the record of the marriage of Thomas Threlfall to Alice 26/1/1828 Gt Budworth? Hoping there is additional information as Thomas is my brick wall at the moment.

Many thanks

Sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 11 March 09 08:29 GMT (UK)
Hi :)

Do you have the record of the marriage of Thomas Threlfall to Alice 26/1/1828 Gt Budworth? Hoping there is additional information as Thomas is my brick wall at the moment.

Many thanks

Sigrid

Hi sigrid,

Thos THRELFALL m Alice WINPENNY 26 Jun 1828 at Gt Budworth by licence according to my index.  For further details you can order a copy of he parish register entry from: http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/shop/

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Wednesday 11 March 09 13:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks very much Jean, didn't know it was by license.

sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: alanstockport on Wednesday 11 March 09 15:05 GMT (UK)
Have found my Ridgway's I asked you about earlier in week, at Stockport library ,have got back another generation. Can I ask you if you have a marrage for a Thomas Ridgway and a Martha in Stockport he died in 1788 had a child , David in 1781 . He was a Beadle.
Thanks again for your help
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 11 March 09 18:23 GMT (UK)
Have found my Ridgway's I asked you about earlier in week, at Stockport library ,have got back another generation. Can I ask you if you have a marrage for a Thomas Ridgway and a Martha in Stockport he died in 1788 had a child , David in 1781 . He was a Beadle.
Thanks again for your help

Hi alanstockport,

Thos RIDGWAY, beadle, m Martha WOOD, sp 7 Dec 1773 at Stockport - doesn't look to be too much doubt about that one!

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Friday 13 March 09 14:27 GMT (UK)
Hi :)

Can I ask for another look up please?

If you have Warrington, can you look for the marriage of Peter Winpenny 1796 please?

Thanks very much,

regards,

sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: alanstockport on Friday 13 March 09 18:13 GMT (UK)
Have you got a marriage in Stockport for a Thomas Ridgway to a Sarah in around 1740
Alan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 14 March 09 10:29 GMT (UK)
Hi :)

Can I ask for another look up please?

If you have Warrington, can you look for the marriage of Peter Winpenny 1796 please?

Thanks very much,

regards,

sigrid

Hi sigrid,

Nothing showing for this marriage.  Lancashire OPC are putting the Warrington St Elphin records online, but haven't got to the year you are looking for yet - worth checking back as they are updated regularly: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Warrington/index.html

I did see this and wonder if it is the same Winpenny family:

John WINPENNY, tea dealer of Northwich, son of Peter and Alice WINPENNY of Marbury m Alice METCALF 7 Feb 1827, Morley Quaker

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 14 March 09 10:33 GMT (UK)
Have you got a marriage in Stockport for a Thomas Ridgway to a Sarah in around 1740
Alan

Hi Alan,

Thomas RIDGWAY m Sarah WINTER 6 Jul 1740 at Stockport St Mary

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mumsie2131 on Sunday 15 March 09 16:14 GMT (UK)
That was a bit deja vu - I have come on here to ask if there is a marriage for John Ridgway and Jane/Jenny Burges(s) their 1st child was born in 1807, and the previous reply was about Thomas Ridgway - don't think he's mine although my gt grandfather was a Thomas !!! My ridgways lived(at that time) in Bredbury or Compstall.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 15 March 09 16:22 GMT (UK)
That was a bit deja vu - I have come on here to ask if there is a marriage for John Ridgway and Jane/Jenny Burges(s) their 1st child was born in 1807, and the previous reply was about Thomas Ridgway - don't think he's mine although my gt grandfather was a Thomas !!! My ridgways lived(at that time) in Bredbury or Compstall.

There are a couple of RIDGWAY requests if you scroll back.  This is the closest match I can see, nothing for surname BURGESS (unless it is her maiden name):

John RIDGWAY, wdwr, publican m Jane LAVINGSTONE, wdw 27 Jun 1805 at Stockport

Jean

Added: Can't see a corresponding marriage for LAVINGSTONE (or LIVINGSTONE as the best alternative I could think of) to a Jane BURGESS.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mumsie2131 on Sunday 15 March 09 18:47 GMT (UK)
Burges(s) is her maiden name,  Her baptism and those of her son (also John) were at Gee Cross Unitarian, Hyde, Cheshire.  She is reported as Jenny when her son is baptised but there is a Jane in the 1841 census living next door to John and Martha (she was Ashworth and we have all the details on them) in Compstall (the 'we' is my 3rd cousin Dot-I'm also Dot- in USA and 3rd cousin x2removed in Ireland)
Jane who is in Compstall in 1841 census has 3 daughters whose names all repeat in subsequesnt generations PLUS 2 of these daughters were baptised on the same day as their Nephew (my gt grandfather) all were non-conformist baptisms.
I hope that helps.
Dot
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: marshsparrow on Monday 16 March 09 16:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Would you have a marriage for James Briscoe & Catherine in either Tarvin or Kelsall around 1815-1825?

Kate
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 16 March 09 18:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Would you have a marriage for James Briscoe & Catherine in either Tarvin or Kelsall around 1815-1825?

Kate

Hi Kate,

Sorry I have checked and can't see anything.  I know that Tarvin isn't very well covered, I had to go to the parish register films at Cheshire Records Office to find mine there.

Sorry I can't be of more help - and welcome to Rootschat!

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: marshsparrow on Monday 16 March 09 18:27 GMT (UK)
Thanks for trying! Could you look for a marriage of James Winstanley in Runcorn around 1760-1775.

Kate
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Monday 16 March 09 19:02 GMT (UK)
Hi :)

Can I ask for another look up please?

If you have Warrington, can you look for the marriage of Peter Winpenny 1796 please?

Thanks very much,

regards,

sigrid

Hi sigrid,

Nothing showing for this marriage.  Lancashire OPC are putting the Warrington St Elphin records online, but haven't got to the year you are looking for yet - worth checking back as they are updated regularly: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Warrington/index.html

I did see this and wonder if it is the same Winpenny family:

John WINPENNY, tea dealer of Northwich, son of Peter and Alice WINPENNY of Marbury m Alice METCALF 7 Feb 1827, Morley Quaker

Jean


Hi Jean,

many thanks for looking and for the additional advice. Apologies for not replying sooner - I didn't get notification of your reply, so checked on rootschat just in case. Good job I did! Not sure about John - I haven't got a baptism for him - but  99.99% certain he is from the same family.

Much appreciate your help,

regards,

sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 17 March 09 18:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks for trying! Could you look for a marriage of James Winstanley in Runcorn around 1760-1775.

Kate

Hi Kate,

The only marriages close to that time are:
James WINSTANLEY m Mary GREEN, sp P of Rostherne 2 Feb 1764 Gt Budworth
James WINSTANLEY, widower m Mary YATES sp. 12 Sep 1772 Gt Budworth by licence

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: marshsparrow on Tuesday 17 March 09 20:22 GMT (UK)
Great. I think James & Mary Yates in 1772 are my guys as his son Samuel was born in 1777.

Thanks very much......Kate
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sparkle on Saturday 21 March 09 22:01 GMT (UK)
Hi, My Gggreat Grandparents Joseph Harrison b1790 Mottram in Longdendale Cheshire Married in St Micheal & all Angels Church Mottram abt 1812 to Sarah Clayton, they had many children 2 Son's Samuel who died soon after Birth, Daughters Sarah- Elizabeth Hannah- Eliza- Mary Ann- Jane-Harriet-(not in that order) Joseph b 1830- Allan 1834?- Allan died aged 25.
    Harriet Harrison Married Joshua Hall abt 1860 son of Robert Hall Cotton  Spinner/ Doubler  "Kingston Mill" Owner, Robert Hall & Son Ltd they lived in Newton Hyde Cheshire in Kingston House  & Had 5 Sons, Allan Harrison Hall-Joshua Hall-Robert Hall- Joseph Harrison Hall- Henry Hall- Joshua  took over later & lived in Kingston Hall.Robert also Partner lived elsewhere.
I have found Joseph Harrison's b 1853 Mottram Wife  Elizabeth nee Burgess in 1881 Denton a Visiitor to her Parent's with Son Allan 5yrs Joseph 7 months old,In 1891 Census living in End of 7 Hyde Road Denton with Elizabeth widow aged 35-Son Allan 15-son Joseph aged 10.
1901 Allan Harrison 25 Blacksmith-maggie wife 25-Elizabth Harrison Mother 47-
Mary Elizabeth Daughter 1 month.
Joseph Harrison 20 Brother of Allan-son of Elizabeth Harrison.
1901 Census.8 Bowden Street Denton  Elizabeth 47- Son Allan Harrison 25 Blacksmith--Maggie 25 Wife nee Bickerdike-Mary Elizabeth aged 1 month-Joseph Harrison 20 Son Cycle Builder.our Grandad Joseph Brown & Sister Harriet lived with them from 1886- to abt 1890 until their uncle joseph Harrison Died in 1890.
1911 Census-38 Pitt Street-Allan Harrison Head aged 35 Blacksmith Shoeing Smith -Maggie aged 35- Mary Elizabeth 10- Herbert 7 B 10th August 1903-Edith 5 b 15th Feb 1906- May aged 3- 1908 born Denton-Elizabeth 58 Widow Mother - May T May Pilkinton 28 Boarder Married,
Allans wife Maggie Died aged 39 in 1916-he Remarried in 1921 to Clarice A Southworth. Edith Harrison Emigrated to Perth Australia abt 1948 with Fiance? Billy Phillips possibly married before leaving?,Edith lived with Grandm'a Margaret & Joseph Brown for a while in her Teens,She lived in Wythenshawe Manchester  later,
   I would be grateful for any information,
        with Thanks,
           Anne.

Hi Anne,

Jos. HARRISON m Sarah CLAYTON 14 Jul 1812 at Mottram in Longdendale

Harriet HARRISON m Joshua HALL in 1860 at Mottram in Longdendale St Michael (see www.cheshirebmd.org.uk).

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: anjeyelf on Sunday 22 March 09 14:39 GMT (UK)
Hi

I would be grateful if you could check out a marriage for me. 
William Gibbons born about 1810 (spelling variant Gibbins) and Elizabeth ? born about 1816 and various census' state both were from Culcheth.
They lived in the area called Culcheth near Warrington, which was under Lancashire but changed to Cheshire when the boundaries moved.
William and Elizabeth had their first two children called Hannah b.1835 and Ann b.1837 whilst in Culcheth. Their third child called James born 1840 in nearby Rixton, but by the 1841 census they had moved to Lower Peover and Allostock in East Cheshire where they stayed and had several children. William is described as a farmer in the census'.
I would imagine the marriage to have taken place in Culcheth or Winwick in about 1834.
Many thanks.
Anje
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: briancowings on Sunday 22 March 09 17:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Cheshire Researchers

I have access to the Marriage Registers for all 5 volumes of W.P.W Phillimores Cheshire Parish Record Transcripts. Marriages only

The dates covered are 17th and 18th Century

If you require me to look through these records for an ancestor of yours, please supply as much information as possible; and I will try to oblige

Chris in 1066Land  
 

Hi Chris

We are trying to find the maiden name of an Ann Hardern married to Thomas Hardern around 1820.  On the 1841 census they were living at Betchton Sandbach.  We did find an Ann Massey that married a Thomas Hardern, but there may have been others.

Thanks

Bri
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: marshsparrow on Sunday 22 March 09 18:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Could you see if you can find the marriage of a Hickson to a Sarah between 1790-1803 in Rostherne? They have a daughter Eliza, born in 1804 in Rostherne, who married Thomas Burgess in 1825 in Rostherne.

Thanks, Kate
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 23 March 09 07:56 GMT (UK)
Hi

I would be grateful if you could check out a marriage for me. 
William Gibbons born about 1810 (spelling variant Gibbins) and Elizabeth ? born about 1816 and various census' state both were from Culcheth.
They lived in the area called Culcheth near Warrington, which was under Lancashire but changed to Cheshire when the boundaries moved.
William and Elizabeth had their first two children called Hannah b.1835 and Ann b.1837 whilst in Culcheth. Their third child called James born 1840 in nearby Rixton, but by the 1841 census they had moved to Lower Peover and Allostock in East Cheshire where they stayed and had several children. William is described as a farmer in the census'.
I would imagine the marriage to have taken place in Culcheth or Winwick in about 1834.
Many thanks.
Anje

Hi Anje,

Sorry but there is nothing in the Cheshire marriage indexes.  I also looked at the Lancashire OPC site and there are some marriages for Winwick (and for Warrington) transcribed but nothing for your couple.

Sorry I couldn't help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 23 March 09 08:03 GMT (UK)

Hi Chris

We are trying to find the maiden name of an Ann Hardern married to Thomas Hardern around 1820.  On the 1841 census they were living at Betchton Sandbach.  We did find an Ann Massey that married a Thomas Hardern, but there may have been others.

Thanks

Bri

Hello Bri,

The marriage you have found is the only likely one that I can see on the index:

Thos HARDERN, farmer m Ann MASSEY, sp 1 Feb 1820 at Sandbach by license.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 23 March 09 08:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean

Could you see if you can find the marriage of a Hickson to a Sarah between 1790-1803 in Rostherne? They have a daughter Eliza, born in 1804 in Rostherne, who married Thomas Burgess in 1825 in Rostherne.

Thanks, Kate

Hi Kate,

The closest is this:

Charles HICKSON, wdwr, of Weaverham m Sarah BOARDMAN, wdw 27 Jan 1791 at Gt Budworth

But as they had both been married previously I would suspect they would be too old to have a child in 1804.  I think I can see Charles previous marriage in 1770 at Weaverham.

I'd suggest that you see if you can find the baptism of Eliza so you have her father's name.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: briancowings on Monday 23 March 09 09:45 GMT (UK)

Hi Chris

We are trying to find the maiden name of an Ann Hardern married to Thomas Hardern around 1820.  On the 1841 census they were living at Betchton Sandbach.  We did find an Ann Massey that married a Thomas Hardern, but there may have been others.

Thanks

Bri

Hello Bri,

The marriage you have found is the only likely one that I can see on the index:

Thos HARDERN, farmer m Ann MASSEY, sp 1 Feb 1820 at Sandbach by license.

Jean

Thanks Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: marshsparrow on Monday 23 March 09 19:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Jean. You are likely right. My Sarah Hickson was born about 1773 and unlikely to be widowed and remarried by 1791.

Thanks for trying, Kate
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: BritCanadian on Tuesday 24 March 09 04:57 GMT (UK)
Hi, and thank you for your kind offer of lookups for Cheshire marriages. Could you please look for the following?

George Rathbone b abt 1802 in Clotton, m Ann b abt 1811. Possible first child born 1829 in Delamere.

Thomas Rathbone (father of above) b abt 1785 in Kelshall, m Ann b abt 1783 in Burton. George, above, appears to be their first child.

Regards,

BritCanadian
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: allotment on Tuesday 24 March 09 15:23 GMT (UK)
Hi and thank you for the offer of look ups.

Are there any marriages for Broughton or any mis-spellings such as Brewerton/ Brearton/ Bruton etc. for Wilmslow or Prestbury please.

Thank you in anticipation.
Best Regards from Colin
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 24 March 09 17:21 GMT (UK)
Hi, and thank you for your kind offer of lookups for Cheshire marriages. Could you please look for the following?

George Rathbone b abt 1802 in Clotton, m Ann b abt 1811. Possible first child born 1829 in Delamere.

Thomas Rathbone (father of above) b abt 1785 in Kelshall, m Ann b abt 1783 in Burton. George, above, appears to be their first child.

Regards,

BritCanadian

Hi BritCanadian,

Possible:
George RATHBONE m Ann JOHNSON 13 Nov 1826 at Delamere

Sorry there is nothing for Thomas and Ann in the right period.

Jean


Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 24 March 09 17:23 GMT (UK)
Hi and thank you for the offer of look ups.

Are there any marriages for Broughton or any mis-spellings such as Brewerton/ Brearton/ Bruton etc. for Wilmslow or Prestbury please.

Thank you in anticipation.
Best Regards from Colin

Hi Colin,

It isn't possible to do blanket lookups for a surname but I'd be happy to look if you can post requests for specific individuals.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: BritCanadian on Tuesday 24 March 09 18:05 GMT (UK)
Hi, and thank you for your kind offer of lookups for Cheshire marriages. Could you please look for the following?

George Rathbone b abt 1802 in Clotton, m Ann b abt 1811. Possible first child born 1829 in Delamere.

Thomas Rathbone (father of above) b abt 1785 in Kelshall, m Ann b abt 1783 in Burton. George, above, appears to be their first child.

Regards,

BritCanadian

Hi BritCanadian,

Possible:
George RATHBONE m Ann JOHNSON 13 Nov 1826 at Delamere

Sorry there is nothing for Thomas and Ann in the right period.

Jean




Many thanks again for that information ... it definitely helps me.

BritCanadian
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: marshsparrow on Wednesday 25 March 09 21:15 GMT (UK)
Jean

Could you see if you can find a marriage for Samuel Robinson in Mobberley around 1770-1775?

Thanks, Kate
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Elsby on Thursday 26 March 09 15:59 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I'm looking for the marriage of William Elsby around 1820 possibly to Ellen. Do you have access to maiden names, ages, and parents names?
Many thanks

Elsby
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 26 March 09 20:02 GMT (UK)
Jean

Could you see if you can find a marriage for Samuel Robinson in Mobberley around 1770-1775?

Thanks, Kate

Sorry Kate,

No matches for those dates or a Samuel anywhere on the index.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 26 March 09 20:06 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I'm looking for the marriage of William Elsby around 1820 possibly to Ellen. Do you have access to maiden names, ages, and parents names?
Many thanks

Elsby

Hi Elsby,

There is this one:

Wm ELSBY, lab m Ellen SMALLWOOD, sp 6 May 1817 at Sandbach.

There is no further information given on the index, but you are unlikely to get much more from the parish record as parents names weren't recorded - although they may be witnesses.  You could order a copy of the parish register entry from Cheshire Records Office online for a small fee.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Elsby on Thursday 26 March 09 20:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,
The dates, names and place all look like the right one.
Thankyou very much
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: IllustratorDavid on Saturday 28 March 09 14:50 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I've only just stumbled across this board, so I'm not entirely sure how this offer to look up marriages works, but...

I've recently hit a bit of a brick wall. I'm looking for a John Bradbury (or Bredbury) born circa 1760 who married a Hannah. Her surname might be Sidebottom. He is from the Hyde/Newton area so they probably married at Mottram, sometime around 1780. The only problem is that there are a lot of John Bradburys knocking around at that time and an equal number of Hannah Sidebottoms. I've so far managed to find three John Bradburys and Hannahs/Anns (no surnames given, annoyingly) who could fit the bill and a John who married an Ann Sidebottom in 1778, but their son's baptism record definitely gives the mother's name as Hannah, not Ann. The Sidebottom bit I'm guessing at since their son named his first child Sidebottom Bradbury (what a wonderful name!).

Any help you can give would be hugely appreciated.

Thank-you,
David
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 28 March 09 16:50 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I've only just stumbled across this board, so I'm not entirely sure how this offer to look up marriages works, but...

I've recently hit a bit of a brick wall. I'm looking for a John Bradbury (or Bredbury) born circa 1760 who married a Hannah. Her surname might be Sidebottom. He is from the Hyde/Newton area so they probably married at Mottram, sometime around 1780. The only problem is that there are a lot of John Bradburys knocking around at that time and an equal number of Hannah Sidebottoms. I've so far managed to find three John Bradburys and Hannahs/Anns (no surnames given, annoyingly) who could fit the bill and a John who married an Ann Sidebottom in 1778, but their son's baptism record definitely gives the mother's name as Hannah, not Ann. The Sidebottom bit I'm guessing at since their son named his first child Sidebottom Bradbury (what a wonderful name!).

Any help you can give would be hugely appreciated.

Thank-you,
David

Hi David and a warm welcome to Rootschat.

Some possibles for you:
John BRADBURY, p Stockport m Ann SIDEBOTTOM 24 Feb 1778 at Macclesfield
John BRADBURY, weaver m Hannah HORSFIELD, sp 11 Feb 1779 at Stockport
John BRADBURY, weaver m Ann WARD, sp 4 Jan 1785 at Stockport

There are no matches for John BREDBURY marriages.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: IllustratorDavid on Saturday 28 March 09 16:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Jean,

Thanks very much for your help (and the welcome). The Ann Ward marriage is too late I think (son Randal was born in 1783). The other two I'd come across already but didn't know where the marriages took place so that might help. Of course, either could be feasible, but I think the Sidebottom one is more likely (I simply can't imagine any reason why one would give one's child the first name Sidebottom unless it was a family name!). I suppose she might have been christened Hannah but called herself Ann?

Thanks again,
David
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: marshsparrow on Tuesday 31 March 09 17:59 BST (UK)
Jean

Could you see if you can find a marriage for Samuel Robinson in Mobberley around 1770-1775?

Thanks, Kate

Sorry Kate,

No matches for those dates or a Samuel anywhere on the index.

Jean

Sorry to take so long to respond. My work has been keeping me swamped. Thanks for looking for me.

Kate
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kit kat on Thursday 02 April 09 00:39 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
Hope you can help me with this one!  I have been told that my Great Great Grandfather was named William Constantine,  a silk top-hat manufacturer from Scotland (Glasgow). He married Elizabeth ?? They had a daughter named Mary Constantine in 1848.  I have been able to find a William Consterdine and Elizabeth in the 1841 census, living at Bredbury Green, Stockport. and neighbours James & Ann Cock and family living next door.  I believe Ann was Elizbbeth's sister.  I think their maiden names was Williamson.  William Constantine passed on by the 1851 census.
Could you find out  anything about William Constantine & Elizabeth??? e.g. fathers names, occupations, and mothers names etc.  I would be so greatful for anything you may find.  I have come to a brick wall on this one.  I cannot find anything about William.
Thanks!  KitKat
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Evie on Thursday 02 April 09 09:34 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Hope you can sort out my confusion please.

I have a James Ward who married a Charlotte possibly abt 1809, this is when their first child was born and christened at Poynton. Their other children afterwards were christened at Worth. I had found a submitted record to say that James had married Charlotte Tomkinson, 1809, Prestbury, and being quite new to this at the time took it as 'red'. In 1837 Charlotte Ward married John Rowlinson, James must have died, but on the cheshire pilot site it states her father was George Brown. I cannot find any record of Charlotte Brown marrying James Ward a collier.

Many thanks

Evie

Added: I am assuming this is the same Charlotte as she is living with John in the 1841 and son George Ward at Worth Clough.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Reiver on Thursday 02 April 09 13:48 BST (UK)
I have information about the following being married at Prestbury - dates 1800 - 1821.   Possibly 1817.

David YATES and Sarah/sally GAR(T)SIDE

Can this be confirmed, please?

Regards
Reiver
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 02 April 09 18:03 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,
Hope you can help me with this one!  I have been told that my Great Great Grandfather was named William Constantine,  a silk top-hat manufacturer from Scotland (Glasgow). He married Elizabeth ?? They had a daughter named Mary Constantine in 1848.  I have been able to find a William Consterdine and Elizabeth in the 1841 census, living at Bredbury Green, Stockport. and neighbours James & Ann Cock and family living next door.  I believe Ann was Elizbbeth's sister.  I think their maiden names was Williamson.  William Constantine passed on by the 1851 census.
Could you find out  anything about William Constantine & Elizabeth??? e.g. fathers names, occupations, and mothers names etc.  I would be so greatful for anything you may find.  I have come to a brick wall on this one.  I cannot find anything about William.
Thanks!  KitKat

Hi Kitkat,

There is this marriage:

Jas COCK m Ann WILLIAMSON 22 Nov 1829 at Cheadle

William CONSTANTINE m Elizabeth WILLIAMSON in 1840 at Cheadle St Mary - see www.cheshirebmd.org.uk.

I'd suggest that the birth certificate of Mary in 1848 and the marriage certificate from 1840 would help you find out some more information about William's father.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 02 April 09 18:17 BST (UK)
Hi Chris

Hope you can sort out my confusion please.

I have a James Ward who married a Charlotte possibly abt 1809, this is when their first child was born and christened at Poynton. Their other children afterwards were christened at Worth. I had found a submitted record to say that James had married Charlotte Tomkinson, 1809, Prestbury, and being quite new to this at the time took it as 'red'. In 1837 Charlotte Ward married John Rowlinson, James must have died, but on the cheshire pilot site it states her father was George Brown. I cannot find any record of Charlotte Brown marrying James Ward a collier.

Many thanks

Evie

Added: I am assuming this is the same Charlotte as she is living with John in the 1841 and son George Ward at Worth Clough.

Hi Evie,

The marriage you are referring to is this:

James WARD, Collier of Poynton m Charlotte TOMKINSON of Worth 20 Jul 1808 at Prestbury

It seems to fit with the information you already have about the Poynton baptism and connection with Worth.  I can't see an earlier marriage either but:

1.  The familysearch pilot record that you have found is a transcription - so could be an error so it would be worth trying to see the original.  You could send for the certificate, the marriage is on www.cheshirebmd.org.uk
2.  Charlotte was illegitimate and George Brown was her father.  This could be difficult to prove.

There is a Charlotte TOMKINSON baptised at Adlington, Cheshire 14 Mar 1790 - the image is available on the familysearch pilot site.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 02 April 09 18:19 BST (UK)
I have information about the following being married at Prestbury - dates 1800 - 1821.   Possibly 1817.

David YATES and Sarah/sally GAR(T)SIDE

Can this be confirmed, please?

Regards
Reiver

Hi Reiver,

There is this one:

David YATES, Gent of Sutton m Sally GREENWOOD widow of Saddleworth, Yorks 6 Mar 1817 at Prestbury by licence.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Reiver on Thursday 02 April 09 18:32 BST (UK)
Many thanks Jean
just the job  :)
Reiver
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Evie on Thursday 02 April 09 18:55 BST (UK)

2.  Charlotte was illegitimate and George Brown was her father.  This could be difficult to prove.


Hi Jean :)

Thank you so much for checking this information for me. It is very kind of you. I am a liitle confused about the above. Did you mean she could have been illegitimate or she was.

Evie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 03 April 09 08:27 BST (UK)

2.  Charlotte was illegitimate and George Brown was her father.  This could be difficult to prove.


Hi Jean :)

Thank you so much for checking this information for me. It is very kind of you. I am a liitle confused about the above. Did you mean she could have been illegitimate or she was.

Evie

Hi Evie,

Just that it is a possibility.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Evie on Friday 03 April 09 08:31 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Yes, I agree,  it could be possible, maybe by the time she re married she knew more. Thankyou so much, it is much appreciated.

Evie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kit kat on Friday 03 April 09 23:58 BST (UK)
Thank You Jean,
Now I am positive that Ann and Elizabeth were sisters. I will have to get the birth & marriage certificates next.  Do you know if it is possible that William Constantine could have passed on from the big cholera epidemic of 1848 which hit Cheshire?  I know that he died between 1848 and 1851. Thanks again!  KitKat
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mrs G on Saturday 04 April 09 05:02 BST (UK)
Hello Chris, My interest is in a Thomas Millward, born 1797-1801 christened Hartington Church Derbyshire. Father William butcher by trade, as was Thomas his son.
1841 census Thomas is living in Byroms Street, Sutton Lane Ends, Macclesfield.
1845 he fathers a child. 1847 married the mother Martha Parr.
1867 death in Macclesfield Workhouse. Buried Prestbury Churchyard.
I am wondering if he was married before his marriage to Martha in 1847
 I hope your offer of marriage lookups pre 1837 is still on offer.
Thank you, Mrs G
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 04 April 09 10:14 BST (UK)
Hello Chris, My interest is in a Thomas Millward, born 1797-1801 christened Hartington Church Derbyshire. Father William butcher by trade, as was Thomas his son.
1841 census Thomas is living in Byroms Street, Sutton Lane Ends, Macclesfield.
1845 he fathers a child. 1847 married the mother Martha Parr.
1867 death in Macclesfield Workhouse. Buried Prestbury Churchyard.
I am wondering if he was married before his marriage to Martha in 1847
 I hope your offer of marriage lookups pre 1837 is still on offer.
Thank you, Mrs G


Hi Mrs G,

I can't see an pre 1837 marriage for Thomas, but there is this:

William MILLWARD, butcher m Elizabeth HUNT widow 25 Sep 1826 at Prestbury, both of Macclesfield
and
Wm MILLWARD, butcher m Eliz HUNT, wdw 26 Nov 1817 at Prestbury, both of Macc
Both marriages by licence.
Strange as the dates don't look easily confused, I think the only way to be sure would be checking the parish registers.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 04 April 09 10:18 BST (UK)
Thank You Jean,
Now I am positive that Ann and Elizabeth were sisters. I will have to get the birth & marriage certificates next.  Do you know if it is possible that William Constantine could have passed on from the big cholera epidemic of 1848 which hit Cheshire?  I know that he died between 1848 and 1851. Thanks again!  KitKat

Hi KitKat,

The only way to find the cause of death would be to purchase the death certificate.  I can't see a death registration that fits for the dates given, although there is one in 1847 - see www.freebmd.org.uk

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mrs G on Saturday 04 April 09 22:26 BST (UK)
Thanks for the Reply to my question about Thomas Millward.
I shall have a look into the info you gave me about his father, William.
What does marriage by licence mean, not married in Church with Banns ect., but in a reg Office?
Thanks Mrs G
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 05 April 09 08:48 BST (UK)
Thanks for the Reply to my question about Thomas Millward.
I shall have a look into the info you gave me about his father, William.
What does marriage by licence mean, not married in Church with Banns ect., but in a reg Office?
Thanks Mrs G

Hi Mrs G,

There is an explanation of marriage by licence here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,255467.0.html

If you are ever looking for a meaning, there is a really useful lexicon of topics here:

http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/reflib-lexicon.php?lang='.$lang.'

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pudding1 on Sunday 05 April 09 16:32 BST (UK)
Hello, I'm trying to find out more information about marriages in the Penny family in the Runcorn / Northwich / Great Budworth area, please:

William Penny to Ann Cowley, roughly between 1810 - 1820.

His parents, James Penny to Martha Unknown, roughly between 1770 - 1790.

Ann's parents, James Cowley and Mary Unknown, roughly between 1770 - 1790.

Thank you!

Janet
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 05 April 09 21:47 BST (UK)
Hello, I'm trying to find out more information about marriages in the Penny family in the Runcorn / Northwich / Great Budworth area, please:

William Penny to Ann Cowley, roughly between 1810 - 1820.

His parents, James Penny to Martha Unknown, roughly between 1770 - 1790.

Ann's parents, James Cowley and Mary Unknown, roughly between 1770 - 1790.

Thank you!

Janet

Hello Janet,

Well, this is a bit strange, I couldn't see anything at first but then:

Ann COWLEY m Wm KELSOPENNY 11 Sep 1805 at Great Budworth
and also this:
John Kelsal PENNY, bachelor m Mary ASTLES, widow 19 Apr 1825 at Great Budworth
and
Jas Kelsall PENNY, 21 m Mary PICKSTOCK 22 Oct 1800 at Witton

I wonder if the register had joined middle name and surname by mistake?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mrs G on Monday 06 April 09 05:12 BST (UK)
Hello Jean, I was able to find more info about the 1826 wedding of William Millward and Elizabeth Hunt
 on the Familysearch Pilot site where it had batch, file, film numbers.etc. Unfortunately there was no icon to take me to the original details. I joined the Find My Past site hoping to find out more but they did not have any record of William. Where can I look next? As I have all the details surely the original is somewhere to be seen.
Thank you for the listings of abbreviations, they were very useful.
Among the familySearch details of William was England VR. Does VR means vital records? In this case what are Vital records?
Thanks again,  Mrs G
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pudding1 on Monday 06 April 09 08:09 BST (UK)
Thank you so much, Jean.

This must be the right family as I already had a Thomas Halsall or Kelsall Penny born 1823 - the former middle name from the census, the latter from the Cheshire BMD.  He was the son of William and Ann; John and James look to be William's brothers.

I wonder if Kelsall was their mother Martha's maiden name.  I'll also take a look on IGI under Kelsopenny just in case.

Many thanks again.

Janet
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kit kat on Monday 06 April 09 22:55 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,
Thank you so much for taking the time to search and heading me in the right direction!
You can probably tell that I am new at this!  This  must be the William Constantine  I have been looking for.  Never thought of him passing on before Mary was born. Now I can get a death certificate.
KitKat
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 07 April 09 18:47 BST (UK)
Hello Jean, I was able to find more info about the 1826 wedding of William Millward and Elizabeth Hunt
 on the Familysearch Pilot site where it had batch, file, film numbers.etc. Unfortunately there was no icon to take me to the original details. I joined the Find My Past site hoping to find out more but they did not have any record of William. Where can I look next? As I have all the details surely the original is somewhere to be seen.
Thank you for the listings of abbreviations, they were very useful.
Among the familySearch details of William was England VR. Does VR means vital records? In this case what are Vital records?
Thanks again,  Mrs G

Hi Mrs G,

I think that the resource that you found on the family search pilot site is the BVRI (British Vital Records Index) - the images aren't available for that source.  As you have a date for the marriage you could order a copy of the parish register entry - this link will take you to the site:

http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/shop/
- chose "Order Photocopies Now"

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Mrs G on Tuesday 07 April 09 19:49 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,
Thank you for that information.
Best Wishes Mrs G
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 12 April 09 09:16 BST (UK)
good morning Jean and Happy Easter...would it be possible please to check a marriage for me....
Edward Standish b 1742 to
Mary FRANCES or FRANCIS. b 1747..I would like to confirm the spelling of Marys surname ..
they married in Neston I presume...thats where the Standish family the next generation down were from...the fist of their 7 children was born in 1764....thanks...allan ;)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 12 April 09 09:21 BST (UK)
good morning and Happy Easter...would it be possible please to check a marriage for me....
Edward Standish b 1742 to
Mary FRANCES or FRANCIS. b 1747..I would like to confirm the spelling of Marys surname ..
they married in Neston I presume...thats where the Standish family the next generation down were from...thanks...allan ;)

Hi Allan and Happy Easter to you to.

The only source where I can find the marriage is cprdb:

Edward STANDISH, Collier m Mary FRANCES at Neston 26 Sep 1763

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 12 April 09 09:24 BST (UK)
Thanks Jean....on IGI its IS not ES ....can I take it that Cprdb would be the correct spelling ???...allan
ADDED....just found the babtism of Mary Frances...and her parents Thomas Frances and Ann Warrington....thanks for the nudge to Cprdb ....much obliged Jean....allan :D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: AlanOnTheWirral on Monday 13 April 09 12:40 BST (UK)
Hello Chris
Wow, so many views and replies, must be a record?
Can you find time to do one more?  I have an IGI record of a marriage 2/2/1775 between Joseph Holland b Macclesfield abt 1751 and Elizabeth Swain b Gawsworth abt 1750.  Could you tell me which parish please?
Regards and congratulations.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jackie walker on Monday 13 April 09 12:56 BST (UK)
Hi

I have on 1841 census Adam Ridgway living with his grandparents they are William and Mary Ridgway, both ages given as 55, their oldest child born c1808, think I have found Williams baptisms at St Mary's wonder is you can see a marriage, they were living in Stockport.

Thank you


Jackie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 13 April 09 13:02 BST (UK)
Hi

I have on 1841 census Adam Ridgway living with his grandparents they are William and Mary Ridgway, both ages given as 55, their oldest child born c1808, think I have found Williams baptisms at St Mary's wonder is you can see a marriage, they were living in Stockport.

Thank you

Jackie

Hi Jackie,

The closest I can see is this:

William RIDGWAY, Weaver m Mary ADAMS 21 Feb 1803 at Stockport

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 13 April 09 13:05 BST (UK)
Hello Chris
Wow, so many views and replies, must be a record?
Can you find time to do one more?  I have an IGI record of a marriage 2/2/1775 between Joseph Holland b Macclesfield abt 1751 and Elizabeth Swain b Gawsworth abt 1750.  Could you tell me which parish please?
Regards and congratulations.

Hi Alan,

I think this is the marriage you want:

Joseph HOLLAND m Elizabeth SWAIN 2 Feb 1775 at Gawsworth

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: marshsparrow on Monday 13 April 09 13:28 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Could you look up these marriages for me?

Robert Wrench married to Mary around 1760 in Davenham

Randle Birkenhead married to Elizabeth around 1701 in Davenham

William Harding married to Mary around 1770 in Witton

Thanks for your help

Kate
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 13 April 09 15:45 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Could you look up these marriages for me?

Robert Wrench married to Mary around 1760 in Davenham

Randle Birkenhead married to Elizabeth around 1701 in Davenham

William Harding married to Mary around 1770 in Witton

Thanks for your help

Kate

Hi Kate,

The Davenham parish records are transcribed and online here:

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Here is what I have found:

Robert WRENCH p. Wareham [I suspect Weaverham] m Mary MERRY 23 Jan 1755 at Lower Peover by licence

Nothing for Randle BIRKENHEAD

Wm HARDING, b, m May KENNERDALE, sp 13 Dec 1766 at Great Budworth by licence

Hope this helps,

Jean

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: marshsparrow on Monday 13 April 09 16:33 BST (UK)
Thanks, most useful...Kate
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: AlanOnTheWirral on Monday 13 April 09 17:31 BST (UK)

Hi Alan,

I think this is the marriage you want:

Joseph HOLLAND m Elizabeth SWAIN 2 Feb 1775 at Gawsworth

Jean
Quote

Many thanks for that confirmation Jean
Regards
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jackie walker on Monday 13 April 09 18:55 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Thank you very much, sure that is the ones I want,

Kind regards


Jackie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: marshsparrow on Friday 17 April 09 20:45 BST (UK)
Hi again Jen

Could you look up a couple more marriages for me?

Moses Dobson married to Mary around 1775 in Daresbury

James Foulkes married to Alice around 1775 in Appleton

Thanks very much, Kate
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jackie walker on Sunday 19 April 09 09:48 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Could I ask for another marriage look up please, this is for Harry Ridgway have his wife as Betty, all children born Poynton, 1st child I can find is 1768.

Thank you


Jackie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 20 April 09 18:47 BST (UK)
Hi again Jen

Could you look up a couple more marriages for me?

Moses Dobson married to Mary around 1775 in Daresbury

James Foulkes married to Alice around 1775 in Appleton

Thanks very much, Kate

Hi Kate,

This is the only marriage for Moses:

Moses DOBSON, farmer Newton tpc m Sarah STOCKTON sp Appleton p Gt Budworth 30 May 1775 at Daresbury by licence

Sorry, no match for James Foulkes.

Jean.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 20 April 09 18:55 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Could I ask for another marriage look up please, this is for Harry Ridgway have his wife as Betty, all children born Poynton, 1st child I can find is 1768.

Thank you


Jackie

Hi Jackie,

These may be connected:
Henry RIDGWAY, bricklayer, Poynton m Eliz DOWNES, p Cheadle 30 Oct 1768 at Poynton
Harry RIDGWAY, bricklayer m Mary GIBSON 17 Jan 1788 at Prestbury by licence (both of Poynton)
Also this earlier marriage
Henry RIDGWAY m Mary CLAYTON 13 Sep 1742 at Poynton

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: jackie walker on Monday 20 April 09 21:38 BST (UK)
Hello Jean

Thank you very much again for your help, very much appreciated.


Kind regards


Jackie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ValsGranddaughter on Tuesday 21 April 09 22:29 BST (UK)
Dare I ask if anyone can find William HOLLAND marrying Mary SAXON possibly at Davenham (although I'm sure I searched it on MF years ago).  The marriage would have been between 1800 and 1810.

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Wednesday 22 April 09 14:43 BST (UK)
Hi :)

Looking for a marriage c1720 for Thomas Galley. Known first child bapt. 1722 Wybunbury, as were subsequent children.

Unknown wife unfortunately, but hoping you may be able to help.

Many Thanks,

sigrid
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 22 April 09 18:16 BST (UK)
Hi :)

Looking for a marriage c1720 for Thomas Galley. Known first child bapt. 1722 Wybunbury, as were subsequent children.

Unknown wife unfortunately, but hoping you may be able to help.

Many Thanks,

sigrid

Hi sigrid,

There is a marriage here: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Thomas GALLEY to Sarah WITHNALL 25 Mar 1722 - lots more information on the transcription.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sigrid7 on Wednesday 22 April 09 18:48 BST (UK)
 :) Thanks very much Jean, this looks like the right one. ;D

Much appreciated,

regards,
sigrid
Title: Davies Marriages
Post by: mudshovelr on Thursday 23 April 09 09:11 BST (UK)

I am looking for the marriage of Samuel Davies b. 1816 in Wincham, to a Mary b. 1810.

I believe they had a son, John Davies b. 1836 but they have him as born in New Church,Over, Marton on four different census'

If John is their son, any information on Samuel and Mary would be greatly appreciated!

BK
Title: Davies Marriages
Post by: mudshovelr on Thursday 23 April 09 09:12 BST (UK)
I am looking for the marriage of Samuel Davies b. 1816 in Wincham, to a Mary b. 1810.

I believe they had a son, John Davies b. 1836 but they have him as born in New Church,Over, Marton on four different census'

If John is their son, any information on Samuel and Mary would be greatly appreciated!

BK
Title: Re: Davies Marriages
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 23 April 09 18:02 BST (UK)

I am looking for the marriage of Samuel Davies b. 1816 in Wincham, to a Mary b. 1810.

I believe they had a son, John Davies b. 1836 but they have him as born in New Church,Over, Marton on four different census'

If John is their son, any information on Samuel and Mary would be greatly appreciated!

BK

Hi BK,

I can't see a marriage for a Samuel DAVIES in the right timescales.  Do you have any other children to Samuel and Mary, or have you found them in the 1841 census?  If so, can you provide the reference?

Thanks

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: marshsparrow on Thursday 23 April 09 19:43 BST (UK)
Hi again Jen

Could you look up a couple more marriages for me?

Moses Dobson married to Mary around 1775 in Daresbury

James Foulkes married to Alice around 1775 in Appleton

Thanks very much, Kate

Hi Kate,

This is the only marriage for Moses:

Moses DOBSON, farmer Newton tpc m Sarah STOCKTON sp Appleton p Gt Budworth 30 May 1775 at Daresbury by licence

Sorry, no match for James Foulkes.

Jean.

Hi Jean

I now think this is the first marriage of Moses Dobson b. 22 Sep 1751. He and Sarah had two children - Samuel b. 25 Aug 1776 d. 1792 and Mary b. 1778 d. 1792. Beginning in 1780, he had at least three more children with Mary - John b. 18 Jun 1780, George b. 07 Jul 1782 d. 1793 and Thomas b. 23 May 1784. It is this second marriage I am interested in, which now looks like it would have happened around 1779 in Daresbury/Great Budworth.

Moses' parents were Moses Dobson b. 1724 & Mary b. 1729 who were married between 1745-1750 as they had children beginning in 1750 - George b. 1750 d. 1750, Moses b. 22 Sep 1751, Samuel b. 24 Mar 1753 and George b. 27 Mar 1756. Do you have any record of this marriage in Daresbury/Great Budworth.

This Moses' parents were Thomas Dobson b. 1686 and Ellen Bulling b. 1690, who were married in Great Budworth in 1711.

Thanks for your help.

Kate
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Tugboat Annie on Thursday 23 April 09 22:05 BST (UK)
Chris,

I'm looking for a marriage between John Barber & Jane Gibson, both born around 1796 and recorded in the 1841 Census at Siddington with their 11 children. The eldest child, John, was born in 1817.
As they continued to live in Siddington all their lives, I suppose they were there earlier on. John was the village brick maker as well as a small farmer.

Hope you can come up with something
Thanks, Ann
Title: Re: Davies Marriages
Post by: mudshovelr on Friday 24 April 09 07:00 BST (UK)

I am looking for the marriage of Samuel Davies b. 1816 in Wincham, to a Mary b. 1810.

I believe they had a son, John Davies b. 1836 but they have him as born in New Church,Over, Marton on four different census'

If John is their son, any information on Samuel and Mary would be greatly appreciated!

BK

Hi BK,

I can't see a marriage for a Samuel DAVIES in the right timescales.  Do you have any other children to Samuel and Mary, or have you found them in the 1841 census?  If so, can you provide the reference?

Thanks

Jean

Samuel DAVIES b. 1816    Wincham
Mary                  b. 1810

Children
John    b. abt 1836 New Church
Mary    b. abt 1840 New Church
William b. abt 1842 New Church
Joseph                     New Church
George   b. abt 1847 Moulton


Thank you!

BK
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pudding1 on Friday 24 April 09 12:10 BST (UK)
Hello, Chris - I'm trying to find out more information about Great Budworth area marriages, please (probably St Mary's):

I'm looking for a James Penny (Penney?) who married a Martha, roughly between 1770 - 1790.

I'd also be interested in any information you can provide about a marriage between James Cowley and a Mary, roughly around the same time

Thank you!

Janet
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 24 April 09 17:06 BST (UK)
Dare I ask if anyone can find William HOLLAND marrying Mary SAXON possibly at Davenham (although I'm sure I searched it on MF years ago).  The marriage would have been between 1800 and 1810.

Many thanks.

Hi ValsGranddaughter and apologies that I had missed your post.

I've had a really good look around but can't find a match for this marriage.  Transcriptions of the Davenham registers are available online here: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/
so at least you can eliminate them.

Sorry I couldn't be more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 24 April 09 17:08 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

I now think this is the first marriage of Moses Dobson b. 22 Sep 1751. He and Sarah had two children - Samuel b. 25 Aug 1776 d. 1792 and Mary b. 1778 d. 1792. Beginning in 1780, he had at least three more children with Mary - John b. 18 Jun 1780, George b. 07 Jul 1782 d. 1793 and Thomas b. 23 May 1784. It is this second marriage I am interested in, which now looks like it would have happened around 1779 in Daresbury/Great Budworth.

Moses' parents were Moses Dobson b. 1724 & Mary b. 1729 who were married between 1745-1750 as they had children beginning in 1750 - George b. 1750 d. 1750, Moses b. 22 Sep 1751, Samuel b. 24 Mar 1753 and George b. 27 Mar 1756. Do you have any record of this marriage in Daresbury/Great Budworth.

This Moses' parents were Thomas Dobson b. 1686 and Ellen Bulling b. 1690, who were married in Great Budworth in 1711.

Thanks for your help.

Kate

Hi Kate,

Moses DOBSON m Mary SANKEY 5 June 1749 at Runcorn

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 24 April 09 17:11 BST (UK)
Chris,

I'm looking for a marriage between John Barber & Jane Gibson, both born around 1796 and recorded in the 1841 Census at Siddington with their 11 children. The eldest child, John, was born in 1817.
As they continued to live in Siddington all their lives, I suppose they were there earlier on. John was the village brick maker as well as a small farmer.

Hope you can come up with something
Thanks, Ann

Hi Ann,

John BARBER, husb. Sidd m Jane GIBSON sp. Sidd 29 Dec 1813 at Prestbury

Jean
Title: Re: Davies Marriages
Post by: JDGen on Friday 24 April 09 17:13 BST (UK)
Samuel DAVIES b. 1816    Wincham
Mary                  b. 1810

Children
John    b. abt 1836 New Church
Mary    b. abt 1840 New Church
William b. abt 1842 New Church
Joseph                     New Church
George   b. abt 1847 Moulton

Thank you!

BK

Hi BK,

Still can't find anything for you on this.  Have you considered purchasing the birth certificate for one of the children born after 1837 to get Mary's maiden name?  It might be the best option given the surname DAVIES.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 24 April 09 17:37 BST (UK)
Hello, Chris - I'm trying to find out more information about Great Budworth area marriages, please (probably St Mary's):

I'm looking for a James Penny (Penney?) who married a Martha, roughly between 1770 - 1790.

I'd also be interested in any information you can provide about a marriage between James Cowley and a Mary, roughly around the same time

Thank you!

Janet

Sorry Janet,

I'm unable to find a match for you on PENNEY / PENNY or COWLEY.

Jean

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Tugboat Annie on Friday 24 April 09 17:42 BST (UK)
Jean,

Thank you so much for the Barber/Gibson marriage info ... by any chance, does the record give their  parents' names?

Again, thank you
Ann
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: ValsGranddaughter on Friday 24 April 09 19:03 BST (UK)

Hi ValsGranddaughter and apologies that I had missed your post.

I've had a really good look around but can't find a match for this marriage.  Transcriptions of the Davenham registers are available online here: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/
so at least you can eliminate them.

Sorry I couldn't be more help,

Jean

Thank you for searching, Jean - at least I can eliminate Davenham now.  And thank you so much for the link - that may turn out to be invaluable for my other Hollands.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: marshsparrow on Saturday 25 April 09 01:31 BST (UK)
Hi again Jen

Could you look up a couple more marriages for me?

Moses Dobson married to Mary around 1775 in Daresbury

James Foulkes married to Alice around 1775 in Appleton

Thanks very much, Kate

Hi Kate,

This is the only marriage for Moses:

Moses DOBSON, farmer Newton tpc m Sarah STOCKTON sp Appleton p Gt Budworth 30 May 1775 at Daresbury by licence

Sorry, no match for James Foulkes.

Jean.

Hi Jean

I now think this is the first marriage of Moses Dobson b. 22 Sep 1751. He and Sarah had two children - Samuel b. 25 Aug 1776 d. 1792 and Mary b. 1778 d. 1792. Beginning in 1780, he had at least three more children with Mary - John b. 18 Jun 1780, George b. 07 Jul 1782 d. 1793 and Thomas b. 23 May 1784. It is this second marriage I am interested in, which now looks like it would have happened around 1779 in Daresbury/Great Budworth.

Moses' parents were Moses Dobson b. 1724 & Mary b. 1729 who were married between 1745-1750 as they had children beginning in 1750 - George b. 1750 d. 1750, Moses b. 22 Sep 1751, Samuel b. 24 Mar 1753 and George b. 27 Mar 1756. Do you have any record of this marriage in Daresbury/Great Budworth.

This Moses' parents were Thomas Dobson b. 1686 and Ellen Bulling b. 1690, who were married in Great Budworth in 1711.

Thanks for your help.

Kate

Fantastic! Thanks, Kate
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 25 April 09 08:57 BST (UK)
Jean,

Thank you so much for the Barber/Gibson marriage info ... by any chance, does the record give their  parents' names?

Again, thank you
Ann

Hi Ann,

The information is from an index not the original PR - but it is unlikely to give parents names on an entry from this date unless they were witnesses.  You could purchase a copy of the original PR entry from Cheshire Records Office for a small fee - http://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/leisure_and_culture/record_office/online_shop.aspx

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Tugboat Annie on Saturday 25 April 09 11:38 BST (UK)
Thanks Jean,

Will give it a try if I manage to find my way around their site  ;D

Have a good weekend! overcast here in La Rochelle  :(
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Jayson on Tuesday 28 April 09 10:39 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Is there a William Kent in your database? I'm looking for two possible marriages.

First to Mary before 1736, and the to Ann.  Mary's surname may have been Harwar.

Many thanks

Jayson
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 28 April 09 20:54 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Is there a William Kent in your database? I'm looking for two possible marriages.

First to Mary before 1736, and the to Ann.  Mary's surname may have been Harwar.

Many thanks

Jayson

Hi Jayson,

Well at last I may have found one for you - but not all good news!  ???

William KENT m Mary ? 19 Nov 1734 at Warmingham - at least you have the church so that you can check it yourself.

Also:
William KENT m Anne WALMSLEY 12 May 1763 at Acton St Mary

and this may be of interest:
William KENT, gent m Joan SALMON 28 Jan 1768 at Nantwich SS Mary & Nicholas by licence

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: joan marie on Wednesday 27 May 09 01:09 BST (UK)
Are you able to look up a marriage between an Alexander McGee (or Magee) around Stockport about 1825 - first son born was a Charles in 1826  in Stockport - the couple were both Irish.  It may have been in Hyde.

Hope you can help

Joan Marie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 27 May 09 18:13 BST (UK)
Are you able to look up a marriage between an Alexander McGee (or Magee) around Stockport about 1825 - first son born was a Charles in 1826  in Stockport - the couple were both Irish.  It may have been in Hyde.

Hope you can help

Joan Marie

Hi Joan Marie and a warm welcome to Rootschat,

I have had a look for this marriage and am unable to find a match for you.  I've checked MacGee, MacGhie, and variants, Magee and variants of McGee.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help,

Jean

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: liverbird09 on Thursday 28 May 09 17:22 BST (UK)
please could I ask for help with a marriage pre 1798 in Chester.

I have Charles Hibbert b. c1798 married Ann Wilkinson 1824 St Oswalds Chester. Unfortunately I can go no further back with the Hibbert line. Perhaps charles's father married c1796, if there is a marriage in the records around that time it would be super.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 31 May 09 09:21 BST (UK)
please could I ask for help with a marriage pre 1798 in Chester.

I have Charles Hibbert b. c1798 married Ann Wilkinson 1824 St Oswalds Chester. Unfortunately I can go no further back with the Hibbert line. Perhaps charles's father married c1796, if there is a marriage in the records around that time it would be super.

Many thanks

Hi liverbird09,

I think that it will be very difficult to ascertain Charles's parents without his baptism record.

The only one I can see is from this site:
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

Charles HIBBERT baptised 1797 at Plemonstall St Peter - you could contact Cheshire Records office to see if they are able to find details of parents etc. but they may charge as you don't have an exact date - http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/recoff/

You could send for a copy of Charles's marriage entry from the parish register - if you have the date and church you will just need to pay for a photocopy - the witnesses may help you.

Have you found Charles on the census to confirm his place of birth?  If not, you could post on the Cheshire Lookup board.

Hope this helps,

Jean

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: liverbird09 on Sunday 31 May 09 10:30 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks for your help.

I do have a photocopy of charles's marriage lines they married in church by licence. One of the witnesses a John Dunning married into Charles's wife's family the Wilkinsons of Tarporley. The History & Heritage church in Chester houses parish registers on film & they were very helpful.
 
Unfortunately, as chance would have it, Charles died in 1839 of "affection" of the head, (whatever that means)before the census started, I have his death cert & John Dunning registered the death.

I will try the record office again to ascertain if the licence can throw some light on it.

Appreciate your help and time, many thanks.




Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: albino on Sunday 31 May 09 11:07 BST (UK)
Hi,
Wondered if you might be able to find a marriage for Matthew Sykes about 1817 maybe at Bowden. He married Mary?
I think he died July-August 1860 Stockport and I think she may have died 1876 October-December Stockport.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 01 June 09 18:31 BST (UK)
Hi,
Wondered if you might be able to find a marriage for Matthew Sykes about 1817 maybe at Bowden. He married Mary?
I think he died July-August 1860 Stockport and I think she may have died 1876 October-December Stockport.

Hi albino and welcome to Rootschat,

This looks like a good match:

Matthew SYKES, Bachelor, Gentleman, of Huddersfield m Mary GRATRIX, Spinster 23 Oct 1817 at Bowden by licence

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: albino on Tuesday 02 June 09 09:46 BST (UK)
Thank you very much, Jean!!
What a wonderful welcome to Rootschat!!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 02 June 09 18:27 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Thanks for your help.

I do have a photocopy of charles's marriage lines they married in church by licence. One of the witnesses a John Dunning married into Charles's wife's family the Wilkinsons of Tarporley. The History & Heritage church in Chester houses parish registers on film & they were very helpful.
 
Unfortunately, as chance would have it, Charles died in 1839 of "affection" of the head, (whatever that means)before the census started, I have his death cert & John Dunning registered the death.

I will try the record office again to ascertain if the licence can throw some light on it.

Appreciate your help and time, many thanks.


Hi again liverbird09

I wonder if that 1797 baptism is worth following up for more information - you could be lucky with the licence but they don't always hold much information.  Plemonstall is in the right area, and if there were any other Hibbert's baptised at the same time you might be able to follow some of the naming conventions.

Hope this helps,

Jean

PS.  I've just had a quick scout on the census and there are a couple of HIBBERT's born at Hoole - part of Hoole was in the parish of Plemstall / Plemonstall.  There is a couple in Cheshire in 1851, Thomas and Elizabeth HO107 2172/506 Page 25, he is 75 and she is 77.  And a Moses born Hoole in c1801, HO107 2172/441 Page 16 with a son called Charles......
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: liverbird09 on Tuesday 02 June 09 21:47 BST (UK)
Hi Jean
Thanks again for the search. I will check out the 1797 baptism of Charles next time I go to the record office, I obviously missed it in my first search, probably because I was short of time and tried to amass too much info in one visit, like we do.

I will have a look at Thomas and Elizabeth, they have about the right ages and those names feature in charles's family.

I think you are wonderfully generous and kind giving up so much of your time to help, it is much appreciated.
I will let you know how I get on.
many thanks



 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sfir on Tuesday 16 June 09 11:03 BST (UK)
Please could you look up the marriage of William Crawford to Elizabeth, probably in Over, around 1822?

Any other Crawfords in Over would be helpful, too.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 16 June 09 17:10 BST (UK)
Please could you look up the marriage of William Crawford to Elizabeth, probably in Over, around 1822?

Any other Crawfords in Over would be helpful, too.

Thank you!

Hi sfir and welcome to Rootschat,

I have checked but the marriage you are looking for doesn't appear on the indexes that I have.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Gaille on Saturday 20 June 09 00:43 BST (UK)
Hiya,

Could you look up some for me please?

Samuel Bebbington - Anne (surname not known)
Pre 1814 - I think Acton area.

Samuel Bebbington (son of above) also married to Ann - think this may be too late for your records as 1st child born 1841.

Joseph Bates - Margaret
Aprox 1830
Crewe or Nantwich area.

(any Bebbington or Bates from these areas would be of interest as they all seem to be inter-related)

Thank You.

Gaille
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: sfir on Saturday 20 June 09 13:03 BST (UK)
Please could you look up the marriage of William Crawford to Elizabeth, probably in Over, around 1822?

Any other Crawfords in Over would be helpful, too.

Thank you!

Hi sfir and welcome to Rootschat,

I have checked but the marriage you are looking for doesn't appear on the indexes that I have.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help,

Jean

Thank you for looking.

I don't know where to go from here. William Crawford was rather random about his age on census returns and I don't know what Elizabeth's surname was. William was born in Duddon and Elizabeth was born in Over; in 1841 they were living in Over and their eldest child was probably born 1823-24. They had a son George, christened in Over on 6 Dec 1826. Their surname was written as Crawfort on one census and Crawfurt on another record.

It's all very interesting, though :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 20 June 09 17:45 BST (UK)
Hiya,

Could you look up some for me please?

Samuel Bebbington - Anne (surname not known)
Pre 1814 - I think Acton area.

Samuel Bebbington (son of above) also married to Ann - think this may be too late for your records as 1st child born 1841.

Joseph Bates - Margaret
Aprox 1830
Crewe or Nantwich area.

(any Bebbington or Bates from these areas would be of interest as they all seem to be inter-related)

Thank You.

Gaille

Hi Gaille,

The only marriage in the correct timeframe is this:

Samuel BEBBINGTON m Ann BILLINGTON 18 Jan 1813 at Astbury St Mary

CheshireBMD has a couple of Samuel BEBBINGTON marriages post 1837:
Samuel BEBBINGTON m Fanny TURNER Sandbach St Mary 1840
Samuel BEBBINGTON m Mary Anne SWINTON Whitegate St Mary 1841

A full transcription of the second marriage is shown here: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/
 - Samuel's father is James.

The birth certificate of the child born in 1841 would give the mother's maiden name.

No matches for Joseph BATE or BATES

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 20 June 09 18:01 BST (UK)
Thank you for looking.

I don't know where to go from here. William Crawford was rather random about his age on census returns and I don't know what Elizabeth's surname was. William was born in Duddon and Elizabeth was born in Over; in 1841 they were living in Over and their eldest child was probably born 1823-24. They had a son George, christened in Over on 6 Dec 1826. Their surname was written as Crawfort on one census and Crawfurt on another record.

It's all very interesting, though :)

Hi sfir,

If I'm looking at the right family in 1841 there is a daughter, Mary, born c1839 - I think that I would send off for her birth certificate which will give you Elizabeth's maiden name.  There is a Mary CROWFOOT on the index at www.cheshirebmd.org.uk in 1839 born in the Over/Winsford sub district which could be her.  The 1841 image also looks like CROWFOOT.

Hope this helps,

Jean

PS. Have rechecked the index for CROWFOOT / CROWFORD spellings but no luck.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: lindsayH on Wednesday 01 July 09 02:18 BST (UK)
Hi chris.

I am woundering if you have any details on the marriage of Edward Hyde (abt 1798, Prestbury) to I think, Sarah Stevenson (abt 1806, brn Laughbourough). I am trying to acertain the details of the parents of Edward Hyde and obviously anything which can be traced further back from Edward Hyde.I am not exactly sure what type of info is recorded on the marriage records you have but any info would be appreciated.

Regards.

Lindsay
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 02 July 09 18:11 BST (UK)
Hi chris.

I am woundering if you have any details on the marriage of Edward Hyde (abt 1798, Prestbury) to I think, Sarah Stevenson (abt 1806, brn Laughbourough). I am trying to acertain the details of the parents of Edward Hyde and obviously anything which can be traced further back from Edward Hyde.I am not exactly sure what type of info is recorded on the marriage records you have but any info would be appreciated.

Regards.

Lindsay

Hi Lindsay,

Nothing on my indexes for an Edward Hyde marriage - the index wouldn't give the parents, but usually you wouldn't get this information on the parish register entry at this time either.  I'd suggest you post on the main lookup board to see if someone can find a baptism for you.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Candolim_Imp on Friday 03 July 09 01:30 BST (UK)
Hi,

Desperate for some help tracking down the marriage of John Roberts to his wife, Frances (AKA Fanny). John was from Wales, but Fanny was born Neston, Cheshire as were their oldest known children (youngest born after the family moved to Tarbock, Lancs).

The eldest known child was William born 1804 in Neston. John was born c1780, Fanny c1779. As their older children were adults by the time of the censuses, it's possible there may have been others before William.

So I'm looking for a marriage of John Roberts to Frances/Fanny between 1795 & 1804... probably in Neston

Hope you can help

Impy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: phyllys on Friday 03 July 09 02:22 BST (UK)
Hello I am hoping you can find for me a marriage between Henry Brindley and Elizabeth(maybe Hannah) Hall between 1800 and 1820 in Chester Cheshire. Their son Henry was my great grandfather. Any information on this marriage record would be helpful. I am having trouble finding the correct Brindley family for my Henry.
kind regards Phyllys
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: kwiffboy on Friday 03 July 09 09:38 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

I a m trying to trace a Charles Davenport who married an Elizabeth. They lived in the Acton Parish of Cheshire. I have found some of his children who's Baptisms show them living in Fadiley, Woodhey, Brindley & Acton. He is not to be confused with his son  Charles, Baptised 2nd March 1740, who also married an Elizabeth (Thirlwell).

His children were born (baptised) in 1740 - Charles, 1742 - James, 1744 - George, 1746 - Elizabeth & 1748 - Catherine.

I have assumed a birth date of approximately 1705 - 1721, and a marriage date of 1730 - 1740 (as none of his children are listed as illigitimate)

I have searched the Acton Parish records for both his Baptism and marriage but cannot find anything. Either I've missed it, he was born in another Parish, and/or they married wherever Elizabeth hailed from.

Many thanks,

Kwiffboy.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 03 July 09 18:04 BST (UK)
Hi,

Desperate for some help tracking down the marriage of John Roberts to his wife, Frances (AKA Fanny). John was from Wales, but Fanny was born Neston, Cheshire as were their oldest known children (youngest born after the family moved to Tarbock, Lancs).

The eldest known child was William born 1804 in Neston. John was born c1780, Fanny c1779. As their older children were adults by the time of the censuses, it's possible there may have been others before William.

So I'm looking for a marriage of John Roberts to Frances/Fanny between 1795 & 1804... probably in Neston

Hope you can help

Impy

Hi Impy,

I thought that this rang a bell, the marriage isn't at Neston according to the online records, and the only one that I can see is still the Frances HOPLEY one.

See previous post: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,136771.1305.html

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 03 July 09 18:11 BST (UK)
Hello I am hoping you can find for me a marriage between Henry Brindley and Elizabeth(maybe Hannah) Hall between 1800 and 1820 in Chester Cheshire. Their son Henry was my great grandfather. Any information on this marriage record would be helpful. I am having trouble finding the correct Brindley family for my Henry.
kind regards Phyllys

Hi Phyllys,

Some of the Chester records are on line here: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ but I can't see a marriage for Henry.

I have checked on my indexes but nothing for Henry.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 03 July 09 18:16 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

I a m trying to trace a Charles Davenport who married an Elizabeth. They lived in the Acton Parish of Cheshire. I have found some of his children who's Baptisms show them living in Fadiley, Woodhey, Brindley & Acton. He is not to be confused with his son  Charles, Baptised 2nd March 1740, who also married an Elizabeth (Thirlwell).

His children were born (baptised) in 1740 - Charles, 1742 - James, 1744 - George, 1746 - Elizabeth & 1748 - Catherine.

I have assumed a birth date of approximately 1705 - 1721, and a marriage date of 1730 - 1740 (as none of his children are listed as illigitimate)

I have searched the Acton Parish records for both his Baptism and marriage but cannot find anything. Either I've missed it, he was born in another Parish, and/or they married wherever Elizabeth hailed from.

Many thanks,

Kwiffboy.

Hi Kwiffboy,

This might warrant a bit of further investigation:

Charles DAVENPORT m Elizabeth PAINTER 28 Feb 1727 (old date format) Whitegate St Mary by licence.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Candolim_Imp on Friday 03 July 09 18:37 BST (UK)
Sorry about that. I knew I'd posted once before about Cheshire marriages, hadn't realised it was this couple I'd asked about.

I've just found a marriage on IGI between John Roberts and Fanny Owens in 1803 at St Oswald, Chester, which would be convenient for the eldest known child b about 1804. Is this parish not included in the database?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: AlanOnTheWirral on Friday 03 July 09 18:59 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,
Can I ask for help?
I have a submitted IGI Record showing that an Arthur Fell marrys Ann Jones 18/6/1828 in Neston, Cheshire.
Are you able to confirm with any other detail??
Thanks in advance for you time.
Alan
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 03 July 09 19:34 BST (UK)
Sorry about that. I knew I'd posted once before about Cheshire marriages, hadn't realised it was this couple I'd asked about.

I've just found a marriage on IGI between John Roberts and Fanny Owens in 1803 at St Oswald, Chester, which would be convenient for the eldest known child b about 1804. Is this parish not included in the database?

Hi Impy,

Not a problem, I just knew there was something familiar about Frances Hopley!  :) - and hoped that it might be a connection with another researcher for you.

The coverage varies, but St Oswald's isn't there.  There are no resources that cover every parish so I would always advise doing more research to confirm (or not!) but at least it can help as a starting point sometimes.  I think that the Chester marriage sounds more likely though.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Friday 03 July 09 19:38 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,
Can I ask for help?
I have a submitted IGI Record showing that an Arthur Fell marrys Ann Jones 18/6/1828 in Neston, Cheshire.
Are you able to confirm with any other detail??
Thanks in advance for you time.
Alan

Hi Alan,

A full transcription of the marriage is available here: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Arthur FELL, bachelor of Great Neston m Anne JONES, spinster of Neston Witnesses Thomas BARNES and John HASWELL

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: phyllys on Saturday 04 July 09 05:04 BST (UK)
Hello I am hoping you can find for me a marriage between Henry Brindley and Elizabeth(maybe Hannah) Hall between 1800 and 1820 in Chester Cheshire. Their son Henry was my great grandfather. Any information on this marriage record would be helpful. I am having trouble finding the correct Brindley family for my Henry.
kind regards Phyllys

Hi Phyllys,

Some of the Chester records are on line here: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/ but I can't see a marriage for Henry.

I have checked on my indexes but nothing for Henry.

Sorry I can't be of more help,

Jean


Thanks jean I appreciate your help regards Phyllys

Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: gortonboy on Saturday 04 July 09 07:53 BST (UK)
hi,,,do you have any records of TIMPERLEY marriages in st bartholomews church,bollin fee,wilmslow??   regards,,,mike.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: AlanOnTheWirral on Saturday 04 July 09 08:57 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,
Can I ask for help?
I have a submitted IGI Record showing that an Arthur Fell marrys Ann Jones 18/6/1828 in Neston, Cheshire.
Are you able to confirm with any other detail??
Thanks in advance for you time.
Alan

Hi Alan,

A full transcription of the marriage is available here: http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

Arthur FELL, bachelor of Great Neston m Anne JONES, spinster of Neston Witnesses Thomas BARNES and John HASWELL

Jean

Thats great news............thanks a million.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 04 July 09 09:21 BST (UK)
hi,,,do you have any records of TIMPERLEY marriages in st bartholomews church,bollin fee,wilmslow??   regards,,,mike.

Hi Mike,

I can't do blanket searches for a surname, and I'm unable to limit it by church, but a a glance there only seems to be a couple.

Is there anything specific that you are looking for?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Elsby on Saturday 04 July 09 18:30 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

I'm wondering if you can find the marriage of a James Smallwood to Phebe. They had at least 2 kids in 1798 and 1802 so it probably took place in the 1790's close to Astbury.
Many thanks in advance.

Elsby
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: gortonboy on Saturday 04 July 09 22:22 BST (UK)
hi,,,do you have any records of TIMPERLEY marriages in st bartholomews church,bollin fee,wilmslow??   regards,,,mike.

Hi Mike,

I can't do blanket searches for a surname, and I'm unable to limit it by church, but a a glance there only seems to be a couple.

Is there anything specific that you are looking for?

Jean

hi,,,i am looking for the marriage of a william timperley to a mary cash ?  william born c 1810
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 05 July 09 08:56 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

I'm wondering if you can find the marriage of a James Smallwood to Phebe. They had at least 2 kids in 1798 and 1802 so it probably took place in the 1790's close to Astbury.
Many thanks in advance.

Elsby

Hi Elsby,

James SMALLWOOD, b, yeo m Phoebe TAYLOR, wdw 25 Sep 1797 at Astbury

Had a quick look for a first marriage for Phoebe, but nothing obvious.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 05 July 09 09:02 BST (UK)
hi,,,i am looking for the marriage of a william timperley to a mary cash ?  william born c 1810

Hi Mike,

www.familysearch.org.uk has:

William TIMPERLEY m Mary CASH 29 Nov 1830 Manchester Cathedral

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: D.Maciver on Sunday 05 July 09 09:11 BST (UK)
Hi

I was wondering if you could find any record of a Samuel Shingler married to Susannah ?, i can find the baptism of a daughter in 1751 at Daresbury but checking back no mention of a marriage so I guess they were not in that area when they married. I am estimating their birth from death records to be around 1720, sorry no more info as this is where I have hit a brick wall.  Any help would be appreciated.
Denise
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 05 July 09 09:24 BST (UK)
Hi

I was wondering if you could find any record of a Samuel Shingler married to Susannah ?, i can find the baptism of a daughter in 1751 at Daresbury but checking back no mention of a marriage so I guess they were not in that area when they married. I am estimating their birth from death records to be around 1720, sorry no more info as this is where I have hit a brick wall.  Any help would be appreciated.
Denise

Hi Denise,

Sorry nothing there for them, sounds like you've already checked Daresbury PR's.  I can also confirm that they didn't marry at Frodsham, not many Shinglers there at all.  Have you tried Runcorn?  It's not far from Daresbury and was a big parish at that time.  It's probably worth keeping an eye out on the Lancashire OPC site for Warrington St Elphin - the years you are looking for aren't there yet, but it is being added to all the time.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: D.Maciver on Sunday 05 July 09 10:01 BST (UK)
Hi
Many thanks Jean for your prompt reply and suggestions. 

Cheers
Denise
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Elsby on Sunday 05 July 09 12:12 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

I'm wondering if you can find the marriage of a James Smallwood to Phebe. They had at least 2 kids in 1798 and 1802 so it probably took place in the 1790's close to Astbury.
Many thanks in advance.

Elsby

Hi Elsby,

James SMALLWOOD, b, yeo m Phoebe TAYLOR, wdw 25 Sep 1797 at Astbury

Had a quick look for a first marriage for Phoebe, but nothing obvious.

Jean

Hi Jean,
Thanks for that. Do you have any idea what the "b, yeo" could mean?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: gortonboy on Sunday 05 July 09 12:24 BST (UK)
hi,,,i am looking for the marriage of a william timperley to a mary cash ?  william born c 1810

Hi Mike,

www.familysearch.org.uk has:

William TIMPERLEY m Mary CASH 29 Nov 1830 Manchester Cathedral

Jean
thanks.....im a bit of a thicko ,,,so if i wanted a copy of this marriage certificate,,,,what would i have to do??   
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 06 July 09 07:47 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,
Thanks for that. Do you have any idea what the "b, yeo" could mean?

I'd take a guess at bachelor, yeoman.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 06 July 09 08:12 BST (UK)
thnx for that,,,,,so how would i go about getting a copy of the marriage certificate if i know that they are down as being married 29 nov 1830 manchester cathedral ?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Monday 06 July 09 10:09 BST (UK)
Jean

Does it cover Ashton Under Lyne? If so, I've got a really high brick wall???

I have a Thomas Hague (1806 - 1884) from Hurst area of Ashton Under Lyne - he was baptised at St. Michaels.
He was married to an Ann?? (c.1806 - ?) from Ashton Under Lyne
As far as I can find, their first child was born in 1833...... so am looking for a marriage between 1825 - 1833??

Ann first appears in the 1851 census, so I suppose its also a possibility she could have been his second wife? So she could have married Thomas up to 1851?

Is there anything for Thomas around that time?

Hope that all makes sense???

Thanks in advance!

Tracy
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 06 July 09 17:58 BST (UK)
thnx for that,,,,,so how would i go about getting a copy of the marriage certificate if i know that they are down as being married 29 nov 1830 manchester cathedral ?

Hi Mike,

You need a copy of the parish register entry.  I think that Manchester library have them, also Lancashire Records Office at Preston.  You could contact LRO: http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/education/record_office/ - they may have a facility for you to order a copy over the phone.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 06 July 09 18:07 BST (UK)
Jean

Does it cover Ashton Under Lyne? If so, I've got a really high brick wall???

I have a Thomas Hague (1806 - 1884) from Hurst area of Ashton Under Lyne - he was baptised at St. Michaels.
He was married to an Ann?? (c.1806 - ?) from Ashton Under Lyne
As far as I can find, their first child was born in 1833...... so am looking for a marriage between 1825 - 1833??

Ann first appears in the 1851 census, so I suppose its also a possibility she could have been his second wife? So she could have married Thomas up to 1851?

Is there anything for Thomas around that time?

Hope that all makes sense???

Thanks in advance!

Tracy

Hi Tracy,

Sorry it doesn't cover Ashton.  Did they have children after the start of civil registration in 1837?  If so, it would probably be worth getting the birth certificate of one of the younger children so that you know the mother's maiden name.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: castana1985 on Monday 06 July 09 19:25 BST (UK)
Thanks for that, Jean.... sometimes the most obvious solutions.... are staring you in the face...!! ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 08 July 09 12:55 BST (UK)
Jean

I wonder if you can find a marriage for an Elizabeth Hughes.  All I know so far is that she had an illegitimate daughter in 1752, so I guess anytime in the following 20 years might be her.  She lived in Frodsham, Cheshire.

I wonder if you can also find a marriage for a John Woodward.  I know he married a Mary Hughes in 1773, although he appears to have had a child with Mary in 1770 when he was already 36, but there are 5 children born to a John Woodward and an Elizabeth between 1761 and 1768.

Many thanks
Lizzie

ps.  I added the 2nd paragraph after I'd originally posted my request.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Wednesday 08 July 09 15:28 BST (UK)
Could you check the entry for Rostherne Parish Church  26 Sept 1832 please?

James Massey  & Hannah Shallcross.

I am interested to see if it gives the parents and witnesess too, or any other information.

Thank you
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 08 July 09 18:01 BST (UK)
Could you check the entry for Rostherne Parish Church  26 Sept 1832 please?

James Massey  & Hannah Shallcross.

I am interested to see if it gives the parents and witnesess too, or any other information.

Thank you

Hi Juno,

The records I have access to are only indexes - as you have the exact date you can place an online order with Cheshire Records Office for a copy of the parish register entry for a small fee.  You should get the witnesses (although they may be parish officials) but you are unlikely to get the parents names unless they happen to be the witnesses.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 08 July 09 18:19 BST (UK)
Jean

I wonder if you can find a marriage for an Elizabeth Hughes.  All I know so far is that she had an illegitimate daughter in 1752, so I guess anytime in the following 20 years might be her.  She lived in Frodsham, Cheshire.

I wonder if you can also find a marriage for a John Woodward.  I know he married a Mary Hughes in 1773, although he appears to have had a child with Mary in 1770 when he was already 36, but there are 5 children born to a John Woodward and an Elizabeth between 1761 and 1768.

Many thanks
Lizzie

ps.  I added the 2nd paragraph after I'd originally posted my request.

Hi Lizzie,

I assume this is the baptism of the illegitimate child:

15th October 1752, Mary daughter of Elizabeth HUGHES of Overton, base begot.

I can't see anything in the general indexes, and for Frodsham the next marriage is this:

2nd April 1782 John LEWIS of St Oswalds, Chester m Elizabeth HUGHES by licence

This for John:

27th Feb 1759 John WOODWARD m Elizabeth PARSON by licence at Frodsham St Lawrence

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Wednesday 08 July 09 19:05 BST (UK)
Thank you .

If it is a general index, I am also looking for the marriage of a Joseph Massey to ELLEN, around 1810, in the same geographical area----or is that too vague?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 08 July 09 19:17 BST (UK)
Thank you .

If it is a general index, I am also looking for the marriage of a Joseph Massey to ELLEN, around 1810, in the same geographical area----or is that too vague?

Hi juno,

Nothing to an Ellen, but this looks interesting:

Joseph MASSEY m Eliz King HEAD, late of Colerne / Colerme 26 Apr 1810 at Rostherne

Any use?

Nothing for a Joseph to an Ellen

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Wednesday 08 July 09 19:34 BST (UK)
Thats the one that fooled me!    :(

I had a whole family based on that entry, because they have a son,  James, born 1812, which is what I need, but their  son died in Hulme Manchester in 1818.

The other- Joseph and Ellen , also have a son it seems born 1812 and baptised in Rostherne, but I cannot find anything more about them.  No marriage or other children at Rostherne. 

Thank you anyway.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Wednesday 08 July 09 22:56 BST (UK)
Thanks Jean.  If it is the same Elizabeth Hughes she would have been quite old to marry in 1782, 30 years after having her illegitimate child Mary, but I suppose anything is possible.

Thank you also for finding the marriage between John Woodward and Elizabeth Parson in 1759.  Their first child was actually born in 1760, not 1761 as I said previously.  I don't suppose we'll ever know if it is my 4 x g.grandfather's first marriage, but it seems possible that he would have married at age 25 the first time and then found himself a widow with 4 children and re-married Mary Hughes my 4 x g.grandmother.

Lizzie



Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pearly22 on Thursday 09 July 09 08:54 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
Very grateful for any help - I have found John Dudley on the 1841 Census in Audlem, Nantwich, Cheshire (parish of Dodcott Cum Wilkesley), b c1779.  His son Thomas and daughter Elizabeth are with him.  John is a widower.  His son, John, moved to London, married and brought up his family there - he was born c1813 so I am looking for his father John's marriage probably pre1813 but I don't know if there were any other children born earlier.
Many thanks
Pearly22
 
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 09 July 09 20:32 BST (UK)
Hi Chris
Very grateful for any help - I have found John Dudley on the 1841 Census in Audlem, Nantwich, Cheshire (parish of Dodcott Cum Wilkesley), b c1779.  His son Thomas and daughter Elizabeth are with him.  John is a widower.  His son, John, moved to London, married and brought up his family there - he was born c1813 so I am looking for his father John's marriage probably pre1813 but I don't know if there were any other children born earlier.
Many thanks
Pearly22
 

Hi Pearly22,

I think that you may find the baptisms of the children at Audlem to John & Martha DUDLEY are here:

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

It also has a possible marriage:

John DUDLEY, bachelor of Audlem m Martha HIGGINS, Sp of Audlem 31 Dec 1804 at Audlem by Banns - witnesses John DUDLEY and William HIGGINS

If you think this is the right family you may be able to find a considerable amount of information as there are a number of Dudley events at Audlem.

The burial of Martha DUDLEY aged 55 of Dodcott cum Wilkesley 2 Jan 1836 is also there, + the burial of John DUDLEY of Dodcott aged 79 4 Sep 1859

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Pearly22 on Thursday 09 July 09 22:38 BST (UK)
Dear Jean

Very many thanks for such a prompt and helpful reply.  This has confirmed some facts and given me much more information to work with.

Kind regards

Pearly22 :D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Sunday 12 July 09 07:53 BST (UK)
May I ask for a look up at Lymm please

Looking for information of any Massey marriages at Lymn, Have a James Massey born 1812 to parents married at Lymm

Thank you
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 12 July 09 08:27 BST (UK)
May I ask for a look up at Lymm please

Looking for information of any Massey marriages at Lymn, Have a James Massey born 1812 to parents married at Lymm

Thank you

A transcription of the Lymm parish register is available here:

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

At least if the event you are searching for isn't there you will be able to eliminate Lymm as the parish.

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: susan_manyhobbies on Friday 17 July 09 21:07 BST (UK)
Hi Chris.  I am a new user of this forum so am not sure if you can help....

I wonder if you would be kind enough to check the records for a marriage in Stockport on May 20 1832 between Anthony Ollerenshaw and Ann Ogden.  Can you confirm where the marriage took place and whether there is any other information, e.g. parents' names?

Many thanks,
Susan
 :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Friday 17 July 09 21:56 BST (UK)
Thank you Jean.

There are a couple of possibles. I have looked through Rostherne, and  Knutsford, now Lymm,  but i suppose without the mothers name you can never be sure with such a common name.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 18 July 09 08:28 BST (UK)
Hi Chris.  I am a new user of this forum so am not sure if you can help....

I wonder if you would be kind enough to check the records for a marriage in Stockport on May 20 1832 between Anthony Ollerenshaw and Ann Ogden.  Can you confirm where the marriage took place and whether there is any other information, e.g. parents' names?

Many thanks,
Susan
 :)

Hi Susan and a warm welcome to the site.

Anthony OLERENSHAW of Hyde m Ann OGDEN of Wer. 20 May 1832 at Stockport by licence.

You may get more useful details (witnesses) if you apply to Cheshire records office for a copy of the marriage register entry (charges on the website)

http://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/leisure_and_culture/record_office/online_shop.aspx

The marriage would have been at Stockport St Mary which was the parish church.  I'm not sure what the [Wer] would stand for on Ann's place of residence, possibly Werneth.

You may also be able to get information from the marriage licence, more information here:

http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/Infobase/Begin-Registers.htm

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: helkar on Sunday 19 July 09 15:32 BST (UK)
Hi Juno
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: helkar on Sunday 19 July 09 15:33 BST (UK)
Hi Juno
Just looking thru Cheshire info.     Joseph Massey - was he the son of Hamnet and Sara from Rostherne.
helkar
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Sunday 19 July 09 15:48 BST (UK)
Ah....... Yes there is a Joseph  son of Hamlet & Sara, born 1784, he died in Hulme and was a tailor there, some details on the registers for Christ Church Hulme. of his death and other childen.

Then there is a Joseph son of George &Suzannah Peak born 1767 -1832, not married on my list so no children  --but who knows? I am becoming quite bewildered by the comings and goings and the names---oh for a Clint & or Elvis.

everyone in this family must have a cousin and an aunt or uncle of the same name.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: helkar on Sunday 19 July 09 15:59 BST (UK)
Obviously you know the family......
I go along the line of Esther, 1798 daughter of Hamnet and Mary.

Very interesting looking at the three generations of Massey - all similar names.   Even Esther's daughter is Esther!!!!
     
helkar
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Sunday 19 July 09 19:09 BST (UK)
Hi ,

I dont think I have her listed. Is she the daughter of Hamlet & Mary peers/Parr?

I am going over  them all again becuse I attributed my line to Jospeh Massey of Hulme whose son James was born in 1811, I have only discovered after all these years --10-12, that that James died in hulme aged 6 years old, and was butied there.
 Although they continued to have later children baptised at Rostherne.
 I suppose the ones that died had to be buried quickly. Where as they could have a little trip back to Rosthenre for a baptismal party!.

So I am left looking for a James Massey born c 1812, born in the area, alive after the 1851 census,when he seems to have dissappeared. and of course I dont know who his father is. The marriage certificate dosnt show the fathers names.,

There are a few James Massey's born c1810, but its just making the connection---correctly this time.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: fredandora on Sunday 19 July 09 19:38 BST (UK)
Hi Chris -

I wonder if you might have a marriage record for a William Ellams (born c. 1768 died 1844) and Mary ? (born around 1785).  The marriage likely took place in Mary's birthplace of Alvanley, but may have been at Frodsham (they lived and raised their children in Helsby).  The marriage probably took place around 1807, but may have been a year or two earlier.  (Of course, they may not have married officially at all.)  William was a small farmer-agricultural labourer.

Thanks a lot!  Best regards, Anne. ;D
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 19 July 09 22:12 BST (UK)
Hi Chris -

I wonder if you might have a marriage record for a William Ellams (born c. 1768 died 1844) and Mary ? (born around 1785).  The marriage likely took place in Mary's birthplace of Alvanley, but may have been at Frodsham (they lived and raised their children in Helsby).  The marriage probably took place around 1807, but may have been a year or two earlier.  (Of course, they may not have married officially at all.)  William was a small farmer-agricultural labourer.

Thanks a lot!  Best regards, Anne. ;D

Hi Anne,

Wm ELLAMES, Farmer, Frodsham m Mary WEBSTER, sp otp 9 Jun 1806 Liverpool St Nicholas by licence

Best fit that I can see....

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Sunday 19 July 09 22:40 BST (UK)
May I ask for another look up please....

George Massey to a Mary ?  He was born in 1755 and died in 1786 at Knutsford.  He isnt on Rostherns register.
I would guess at 1779?

Thank you
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: organicgardener on Monday 20 July 09 07:52 BST (UK)
Hi Chris, I was wondering if you could find a marriage for me for John Challinor b 1778 and Elizabeth Teasdale in Cheshire and also their son James who married Ann Sinker ? also Cheshire first child b 1853 they lived at Beeston and the marriages of their children were at Saint Boniface Bunbury. I live in Australia so it's hard to get to the Cheshire records office. These are my ggggrandparents. Thank you in anticipation,  Chris Watters
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: susan_manyhobbies on Monday 20 July 09 12:54 BST (UK)
That's wonderful - many thanks!   Now ordered and hopefully on its way....
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 20 July 09 19:03 BST (UK)
May I ask for another look up please....

George Massey to a Mary ?  He was born in 1755 and died in 1786 at Knutsford.  He isnt on Rostherns register.
I would guess at 1779?

Thank you

Hi Juno, this is the closest I can see:

George MASSEY Shoemkr m Mary PIMLOTT 17 Oct 1780 at Knutsford by licence

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Monday 20 July 09 19:09 BST (UK)
Hi Chris, I was wondering if you could find a marriage for me for John Challinor b 1778 and Elizabeth Teasdale in Cheshire and also their son James who married Ann Sinker ? also Cheshire first child b 1853 they lived at Beeston and the marriages of their children were at Saint Boniface Bunbury. I live in Australia so it's hard to get to the Cheshire records office. These are my ggggrandparents. Thank you in anticipation,  Chris Watters

Hi Chris,

John CHALINOR m Elizabeth TESDALE 16 Jul 1824 at Chester St Oswald

I assume that son James married after 1837 in which case you should find the marriage at www.cheshirebmd.org.uk if they married in Cheshire.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: fredandora on Monday 20 July 09 19:32 BST (UK)
Thank you so very much Jean!   ;D

I had scoured IGI and the Cheshire Parish Register Project and who knows what other website possibility....but you need the registers!!!!!  I'm all whoopdeedoo about this :D

All the best Anne.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Monday 20 July 09 20:48 BST (UK)
 ;D

That well may be a missing link---thank you very much ----- I shall pursue it with interest.. is the nearest thing I have.....
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: helkar on Monday 20 July 09 21:40 BST (UK)
Hi Juno
did you get my note saying I was connected to Hamnet and Mary Massey.    Esther 14.07.1798 is my ggggrandmother.
helkar
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Monday 20 July 09 22:42 BST (UK)
Massey



Hello there ---yes i sent a reply,

The combinations of Hamnet/Hamlet/ Massey and Mary is not uncommon, which date did they marry ? Is it 29 april 1798 ?

or 1821 , I know there are others but i havent documented them yet.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Tuesday 21 July 09 08:49 BST (UK)
Hello  Jean,

Thank you for the news on George Massey & Mary Pimlotte/Pimblott

I have stayed up half the night working on this!,   George & Mary Pimblott had 3 children beofre he died in 1786 it seems.

Only one was a son -  John Massey born Nether Knutsford 1782. The great uncle to George left his widow some money in 1791, but he didnt say how many of the children were alive at that point.

Could I beg you to look up any possible marriages for John Massey say about 1810? please in the Knutsford area.

Thank you for your efforts, it has been a great help in sorting some of this family. There are several in Knutsford who seem to have been shoemakers, and may be related in  some way, its just finding the right  connections.
I am very wary of making the same mistake...

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Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 21 July 09 18:59 BST (UK)
Hello  Jean,

Thank you for the news on George Massey & Mary Pimlotte/Pimblott

I have stayed up half the night working on this!,   George & Mary Pimblott had 3 children beofre he died in 1786 it seems.

Only one was a son -  John Massey born Nether Knutsford 1782. The great uncle to George left his widow some money in 1791, but he didnt say how many of the children were alive at that point.

Could I beg you to look up any possible marriages for John Massey say about 1810? please in the Knutsford area.

Thank you for your efforts, it has been a great help in sorting some of this family. There are several in Knutsford who seem to have been shoemakers, and may be related in  some way, its just finding the right  connections.
I am very wary of making the same mistake...

Hi Juno,

Nothing obvious for this, what was the date of the will and does it give her first name?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Tuesday 21 July 09 19:11 BST (UK)
hello Jean

 The will was that of John Peak, gent of Manchester late of Knutsford. dated 15 October 1791, to Mary Massey widow of my late nephew George Massey.
It was a right off , for money borrowed.....

So I think you are right in that -it is Mary Pimlott.

 :)
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: organicgardener on Tuesday 21 July 09 21:48 BST (UK)
Thanks Joan for your help with the John Challinor/Chaloner marriage, that was great but his son James was married as Chaloner to Anne Sinker in 1852 at Over. Three sons were married as Chaloner then the rest were Challinor, didn't think to look under different spellings ! I tried Anne Sinker and up came James Chaloner. So thank you for that sugestion too.  Chris.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: organicgardener on Tuesday 21 July 09 21:50 BST (UK)
  Sorry Jean I called you Joan !!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: caribou on Saturday 25 July 09 11:23 BST (UK)
I'm looking for a marriage between Sarah Birkett, born Cheshire 1806 and somebody Chandley, probably in Stockport.

Any help appreciated.

Bob.

Just checked the 1841 census, husband's name was George Chandley, they have a 7-year old daughter, so marriage probably about 1832ish

Bob.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 25 July 09 13:01 BST (UK)
I'm looking for a marriage between Sarah Birkett, born Cheshire 1806 and somebody Chandley, probably in Stockport.

Any help appreciated.

Bob.

Just checked the 1841 census, husband's name was George Chandley, they have a 7-year old daughter, so marriage probably about 1832ish

Bob.

Hi Bob,

Nothing for Sarah Birkett but there is this:

George CHANDLEY, crofter m Sarah STEEL 20 Sep 1824 at Stockport

Too early?

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: caribou on Saturday 25 July 09 14:05 BST (UK)
Hi Jean,

Could be the right Chandley and I've got something wrong :-[

I got the name from the 1851 census, where George Birkett (who I'm interested in) is resident with Sarah Chandley and is shown as her brother. I therefore assumed she was another Birkett.

Bob.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: organicgardener on Wednesday 12 August 09 08:25 BST (UK)
 I am looking to find my ggggrandmothers maiden name with no luck. On the 1851 census Elizabeth and James Turner living in Warrington had the following children Mary A b1838 James b 1840 William b 1846 and Alice b 1849 so I presume they were married before 1837 Elizabeth states that she was born in Warrington and James in Newchurch Lancs I have tried the Lancashire OLPC with no luck and the IGI also no sign of them in the 1841 census. Any ideas would be appreciated, Thank you Chris.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: creamcake on Wednesday 12 August 09 09:20 BST (UK)
Hi,

Would it be possible for you to check if you have a marriage for a Thomas Woolley and Elizabeth ? in Malpas, Cheshire about 1790, I would be grateful for any help.

Many thanks, Carol
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: Elizabeth Revel on Wednesday 12 August 09 11:55 BST (UK)

There is a marriage for James Turner and Elizabeth Pimblett 7 Feb 1826, St. Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire. Both of this parish. Both signed with an X. Witness: Joseph Grestey; Hannah Dunn. Married by Banns by Jonathon Topping Curate.

Source LDS Film 1562961

Beth
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: organicgardener on Wednesday 12 August 09 12:34 BST (UK)
  Hi Beth, thanks for that but according to the 1851 census Elizabeth was born in 1817 so she would have only been 9 in 1826 unless her age was given wrongly. I have sent for her death certificate as she died in 1854 so that will give me her age. I may have to send for her daughters birth certificate and hope that it gives her maiden name, thanks so much,   Chris.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 12 August 09 18:18 BST (UK)
I am looking to find my ggggrandmothers maiden name with no luck. On the 1851 census Elizabeth and James Turner living in Warrington had the following children Mary A b1838 James b 1840 William b 1846 and Alice b 1849 so I presume they were married before 1837 Elizabeth states that she was born in Warrington and James in Newchurch Lancs I have tried the Lancashire OLPC with no luck and the IGI also no sign of them in the 1841 census. Any ideas would be appreciated, Thank you Chris.

Hi Chris,

I've looked and can only see the marriage that Beth posted earlier.  I think that it would be a good idea to get the birth certificate of one of the children anyway to be certain - Turner is a common name and it would be easy to follow the wrong family.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 13 August 09 06:57 BST (UK)
Hi,

Would it be possible for you to check if you have a marriage for a Thomas Woolley and Elizabeth ? in Malpas, Cheshire about 1790, I would be grateful for any help.

Many thanks, Carol

Sorry Carol, nothing that is a match.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: juno on Thursday 13 August 09 09:49 BST (UK)
Hello Chris.

I have a marriage certiciate for a James Massey to a Hannah Massey at Lymm PC in August 1852,
I believe the groom to be 40 years old and the bride 21.
Their fathers  are given as James- William Massey, Shoemaker, and Hannahs as Joseph Massey, Shoemaker.

I have found a couple of baptisims for James Masseys in the area in the same period 1800-1815, but they dont seem to be this man.

Can you check in the Knutsford area if there are any marriages for William Massey, and the Jospeh Massey. so I can look for baptisims in the right parish. I have been through the Rosthenre register, but the one I found there died as a small child.
A further James Massey who died in Knutsford 1890 was actually living and working in Timperley in the various census.
Thank you

I have posted this request somewhere else but cannot find it now!
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: creamcake on Thursday 13 August 09 16:03 BST (UK)
Hi,

Would it be possible for you to check if you have a marriage for a Thomas Woolley and Elizabeth ? in Malpas, Cheshire about 1790, I would be grateful for any help.

Many thanks, Carol

I have just found another baptism that may be another of their children in 1779, could I ask if you could have another look say between 1777 and 1779 please.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 13 August 09 17:10 BST (UK)
Hi,

Would it be possible for you to check if you have a marriage for a Thomas Woolley and Elizabeth ? in Malpas, Cheshire about 1790, I would be grateful for any help.

Many thanks, Carol

I have just found another baptism that may be another of their children in 1779, could I ask if you could have another look say between 1777 and 1779 please.

Hi Carol,

What about this:

Thomas WOOLLEY m Elizabeth WRIGHT 14th July 1776 at Bunbury St Boniface

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Thursday 13 August 09 17:12 BST (UK)
Hello Chris.

I have a marriage certiciate for a James Massey to a Hannah Massey at Lymm PC in August 1852,
I believe the groom to be 40 years old and the bride 21.
Their fathers  are given as James- William Massey, Shoemaker, and Hannahs as Joseph Massey, Shoemaker.

I have found a couple of baptisims for James Masseys in the area in the same period 1800-1815, but they dont seem to be this man.

Can you check in the Knutsford area if there are any marriages for William Massey, and the Jospeh Massey. so I can look for baptisims in the right parish. I have been through the Rosthenre register, but the one I found there died as a small child.
A further James Massey who died in Knutsford 1890 was actually living and working in Timperley in the various census.
Thank you

I have posted this request somewhere else but cannot find it now!

Juno,

I have added some extra information and moved your posts to here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,398797.0.html

Apologies if you couldn't find it, you should have received a notification.

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: creamcake on Thursday 13 August 09 18:04 BST (UK)
Hi,

Would it be possible for you to check if you have a marriage for a Thomas Woolley and Elizabeth ? in Malpas, Cheshire about 1790, I would be grateful for any help.

Looks very interesting and the date would fit.... Elizabeth could have come from Bunbury.... looks like I need a trip to Chester.
Thanks for your help
Carol

Many thanks, Carol

I have just found another baptism that may be another of their children in 1779, could I ask if you could have another look say between 1777 and 1779 please.

Hi Carol,

What about this:

Thomas WOOLLEY m Elizabeth WRIGHT 14th July 1776 at Bunbury St Boniface

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Thursday 13 August 09 18:37 BST (UK)
Jean

I can't remember whether I've asked you this before, as my husband's late brother had already researched the place and date of the marriage.  What I'd like to know is if any parents or witnesses are listed.

The marriage was between Richard Whittaker and Susannah Moss and took place on 28 June 1795 at Stockport Parish Church, Cheshire.

Many thanks
Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: organicgardener on Thursday 13 August 09 23:12 BST (UK)
 Hi Creamcake, I saw in your query that you had a Thomas Wooley in your tree, I have a Anne Wooley who married Edward Dutton and had my ggggrandmother Martha Dutton b 1808 at Bunbury s this any relation to your Thomas ? all my ancestors were baptised and married at Saint Boniface. Regards Chris.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Saturday 15 August 09 09:24 BST (UK)
Jean

I can't remember whether I've asked you this before, as my husband's late brother had already researched the place and date of the marriage.  What I'd like to know is if any parents or witnesses are listed.

The marriage was between Richard Whittaker and Susannah Moss and took place on 28 June 1795 at Stockport Parish Church, Cheshire.

Many thanks
Lizzie

Hi Lizzie,

The information I have is only from an index, but I have checked the marriage and it does say that Susannah was a spinster and Richard was a hatter.

As you have the exact date you might want to order a photocopy of the parish register entry from Cheshire Records Office:

http://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/leisure_and_culture/record_office/online_shop.aspx

Jean
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 15 August 09 10:40 BST (UK)
Hi Jean

Many thanks for that.  Yes Richard was definitely a Hatter, as were his descendants until the late 1950s.  I'll order the parish register entry as you suggest.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Saturday 15 August 09 10:46 BST (UK)

Hi Lizzie,

I'm at Stockport Library this afternoon, would you like me to look at this marriage entry for you.

Pat
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 15 August 09 11:24 BST (UK)
Pat

Yes please, although I have just ordered a copy, only cost £1 plus 45p postage, so if it doesn't give any info, it hasn't broken the bank. 

We would like to know if Richard's parents (or father at least) are mentioned and if it states where Susannah comes from (and maybe her father).  He died in 1836, so isn't on the 1841 census, but as far as we know he was born in Cheshire.  However, Susannah, who we think died in the mid 1840s is on the 1841 census and it shows she was not born in County.

Lizzie

ps. I wonder if there are any marriage bonds or similar available?
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Saturday 15 August 09 11:37 BST (UK)

There never seems to be much more info on these earlier marriages other than witnesses but you could be lucky.
I don't know much about bonds, I'll ask at the library.
Be in touch later.

Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 15 August 09 13:42 BST (UK)
Thanks Pat

Not sure why I'm not getting notifications for this topic, so only just seen your last response. when I came back to Rootschat.
Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Saturday 15 August 09 17:55 BST (UK)
I had a problem this morning, got a notification which indicated a reply from you and was in actual fact my own message coming back. Must be gremlins in the works.
I had a look at the marriage entry, unfortunately there is nothing more to add to what you already know exept that they were married by banns and both made x's
The witness, just one, was James Clarkson and as he's on a lot of the other marriages as witness I think he was a church official.
Sorry I didn't get to you before you'd ordered the copy from Cheshire.

Pat
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 15 August 09 22:54 BST (UK)
Thanks for looking Pat.  As I've only paid out £1.45 for a copy of the parish record, it doesn't really matter that I didn't see your offer to look at the library before I spent my money ::)  It's always nice to have "official" paperwork in any case.

Lizzie

ps.  Still didn't get the notification about your posting, although I had one from a thread that I started - very strange.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: LizzieW on Saturday 15 August 09 22:58 BST (UK)
Pat

Just done a search on the 1841 census for James Clarkson, there were two both aged 50, both living in Stockport, but one was a Parish Clerk, so I guess he's the witness.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: rolnora on Sunday 16 August 09 08:18 BST (UK)

Yes Lizzie, I thought he must be.
As for the notification I think you didn't get one about my posting because I got it instead. Why I would get my own post back, haven't a clue. Perhaps I did something wrong.
Anyway it seems to be OK now.

Pat.
Title: Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
Post by: JDGen on Sunday 16 August 09 09:44 BST (UK)
I'm locking this topic as it is too long and is causing problems with notifications etc.

If you have a Cheshire pre 1837 marriage request please post it on the lookup board as a separate thread.

Thanks

Jean