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Samuel Baker & his family (Quakers) sailed from County Wexford, Ireland, about 18th June, 1819 to Ontario, Canada. Samuel and his family were looking for freedom from religious persecution and emigrated from Co. Wexford to settle in Hallowell, Huntingdon, Ontario. It is assumed they may have made their voyage on the Brig "Constantia" (Captain William Moyne). Their voyage, accompanied by 90 others heading for Canada took 58 days. They arrived at Quebec on August 15th. They travelled from there via Montreal to Ontario.
http://www.theshipslist.com/accounts/baker1819.htm
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hi, Christopher....only just found this...Is this a family you are searching, as I'm wondering why it isn't on the Canada board...( Plus it' seems more a statement then a query? ) all the best... J.J.
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Hiya J.J.,
Thanks for your reply which I was surprised to receive.
It's information about Quakers from Wexford. I'm not researching the family.
All the Best, Chris
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Hi Christopher:
I was very surprised to see the reference to Samuel Baker. He was my 3rd great grandfather and I was thrilled when I first found that diary on theshipslist.
All references to Samuel's birth state that he was born in Garryfelam Co. Wexford (including family records). I tried www.thecore.com/seanruad which lists towns in Wexford but the closest I could find was Garryphelum which I imagine would sound identical.
I "googled" Garryfelam and the only references I came up with were ones that were family history sites relating to Samuel Baker and family.
So at this point I don't know if Garryphelum was mistakenly recorded as Garryfelam or if there was in fact a place called Garryfelam.
Any suggestions?
regards
dollylee
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Hiya dollydee,
I've a friend who knows Co. Wexford quite well.
I've posted a message to her to see if she can tell me something about Garryphelum {Garryfelam).
Christopher
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Thank you Christopher.
cheers
dollylee
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Dollylee,
The spelling of this townland is slightly different to the way you have it (with an I not a U)
GARRYPHELIM
http://www.cousinsfamily.co.uk/wexford/townlands2.htm
Still in use today for planning applications etc. as google will reveal.
RonnieG
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By the way,
Garry is a corruption/anglicisation that orignally meant garden - so this place would have been Phelim's garden.
At its present day size of 184 acres, that's a lot of grass to mow!
RonnieG
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By the way,
Garry is a corruption/anglicisation that orignally meant garden - so this place would have been Phelim's garden.
At its present day size of 184 acres, that's a lot of grass to mow!
RonnieG
Ronnie,
Does "Up and Under ... Garryowen" mean a guy named Garry is kicking a rugby ball in a garden ???
Chris
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Thank you very much Ronnie and Chris :D
regards
dollylee
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I would like to mention that the Captain of the Constantia might be William Moyse not Moyne, born 1778 at ¿Swansea?, a Quaker. It is strange to me that a coastal vessel (below) like the Constantia of Moyse would do the cross-atlantic trip. Can someone comment on this? Are Moyne-Moyse, Constantia-Constantia, the same ones?
Kenneth M. Hay and Joy Roberts. The Sea Voyages of Edward Beck in the 1820s. Bishop Auckland, England: Pentland Press, 1996. xiv + 221pp., glossary. £15, cloth; ISBN 1-85821-435-1.
Edward Beck informs his reader very early why he went to sea. It was to "see foreign lands and people." (p. 4) Born in 1803, he was apprenticed out at age 16 as a cabin boy to Captain Moyse, a fellow member of his parents' Quaker community. For four years he sailed aboard the Constantia, a coastal vessel of several hundred tons and a crew of eleven, freighting goods between several ports in southern England and Ireland. By 1823 he had grown tired of coastal voyaging and, with the help of his parents, he freed himself from his commitments to Moyse.
http://www.cnrs-scrn.org/northern_mariner/vol07/tnm_7_3_63-135.pdf