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Title: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: mau mau on Sunday 10 October 04 01:08 BST (UK)
I need birth or christening dates for three sons of Anne Oakley (Spinster)
1. Judd Oakley
2.James Oakley
3. Samuel Oakley
Bodney area Norfolk England
or any info on them or their mystry mother Anne.
James & Judd came to Tasmania have their info
have no info on Samuel at all except he was born about 1819.
            any help or link to other researchers in this line would make my coming birthday be happier
           thank you in advance
                     mau Mau
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: teddybear1843 on Thursday 14 October 04 20:30 BST (UK)
Hi there Mau Mau

I have just looked at information I have to hand in my collection, not the registers of Bodney I'm afraid.

Ann Oakley married Samuel Elmer in Bodney on 31 March 1820.

There were several Oakley people in Bodney in 1851 but none of your lot, but there was a Judd Oakley born 1824 with his family.

There was no Ann or Samuel Elmer.

(This information are from indexes, not the original records.)

What information have you regarding the ones in Tasmania?  When did they emigrate?  Why?  On which ship?  From where?

I could then follow up this end to see if there are other bits of information here.  I have notes relating to a Howard family of four brothers who emigrated on the Southern Eagle to Tasmania, Launceston, in 1857.  Did your lot come on the same ship or did they travel on the Whirlwind which went 1855?

I look forward to hearing from you.

Oh, happy birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Teddybear.
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: mau mau on Friday 25 March 05 10:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Teddybear
                      My computer has been out of action after a crash so I have been saving to buy a new one. have only just found this site again  and I Cannot remember if I answered your email or not...........

.James Oakley arrived Southern Eagle Aug 1857 with 2 children
1. Mary Ann born 1853 Great Cressengham and
2. Benjamin (my great grandfather) born 1856 Great Cressingham
     Maria Clarke was his second wife .....they married 25 dec 1852 in     Great Cressengham..............

Judd Oakley arrived Whirlwind arrived 1855 with wife Susannah (nee Shipp) and 5 children
1. Henry Shipp
2. Susannah Oakley
3.Maria Oakley
4. Elizabeth Oakley
5. Eliza Oakley
Judds first wife Ann ? or Rose ? died about 1851 at Swaffam of the plague.

they had a brother Samuel Oakley born about 1818 (no info yet)
their mother Ann,,, it has been recorded that Anne had 3 boys out of wedlock  she intended to marry Nathan Feltham as Banns had been read..but  no record has been found.
So any info on Samuel or their mother Anne would be a great help.
           Maureen (in Tasmania)
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: teddybear1843 on Friday 25 March 05 16:38 GMT (UK)
Leave it with me.

Teddybear.
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: mau mau on Saturday 26 March 05 08:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you
             Maureen
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: Angie Hawk on Monday 25 January 16 07:14 GMT (UK)
Hello,
Not sure if this thread is still 'live' but I am interested in James Oakley (my 3GGF). His daughter Mary Ann is my 2GGM.
James' mother Annie is a mystery and I'd love to know if anyone has tracked her parents?
Thanks
Angie
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: sarah on Monday 25 January 16 12:07 GMT (UK)
Hello Angie,

Welcome to RootsChat :)

We are having problems with Maureen's email at the moment but confident I have managed to message her with a link to your reply. Edit Maureen's email has now been updated

Hope to see Maureen very soon.

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: Angie Hawk on Monday 25 January 16 19:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sarah  :)
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: The Yokel on Monday 25 January 16 22:16 GMT (UK)
Hi

There is a baptism for Anne daughter of John and Sus'h (probably Susannah) Oakley 13 Dec 1795 in Great Cressingham

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gxl/

looks like Anne went on to marry Samuel Elmer 31 Feb 1820 in Bodney

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gxm/

yokel
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: Angie Hawk on Monday 25 January 16 23:55 GMT (UK)
Thank you, yokel...I really appreciate the help!

Angie
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: The Yokel on Tuesday 26 January 16 16:25 GMT (UK)
If that is the correct baptism of Anne this is her fathers John Okeley/Okley/Oakley's first marriage

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gxx/

then his second marriage to Annes mother Susanna Hudson

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gxy/
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: The Yokel on Tuesday 26 January 16 21:35 GMT (UK)
Susanna Hudson baptised 10 Aug 1757 to Richard and Susanna at Gt Cressingham

Richard Hudson married Susanna Beaton 13 Aug 1756 at Gt Cressingham

The PR's for Gt Cressingham can be found here

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gy2/

yokel
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: Angie Hawk on Thursday 28 January 16 02:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks again Yokel, this is great info. I've now managed to work out that this Richard Hudson is the son of Richard Hudson (1710) and Elizabeth Theodorick (1711) who married on 1/11/1732. I will keep hunting! (And any more hints gratefully appreciated if you feel like it...)
Angie
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 28 January 16 09:41 GMT (UK)
BAPTISMS;
St Andrew, Northwold, Norfolk
WILLIAM Ellenar, 4 March 1821 (birth 9 Feb 1821)
JOHN Ellinor, 30 April 1826 (birth 1 April 1826)
Parents SAMUEL and ANN nee Oakley

BURIAL;
Same Church
SAMUEL Ellinor, 14 October 1827 age 28

MARRIAGE;
Same Church
19 October 1832
Ann ELINOR, Widow, to William HARROD, Bachelor

1841 Census
Northwold, Norfolk
HO107/744/11/Northwold
William Harrod, 40
ANN Harrod, 40****
William Harrod, 20
Martha Harrod, 7
Robert Harrod, 6
George Harrod, 1
Susan Ellinor, 10

I wouid day William Harrod is actually William Ellinor 1821

SUSAN Elenor Baptised 19 Sept 1830 St Andrew, Northwold (birth 18 Aug 1830)
Mothe ANN Elenor, Widow

All above on FreeREG except Census

Trish :)
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 28 January 16 10:40 GMT (UK)
BAPTISMS;
St Andrew, Northwold
MARY ANN Oakley, 14 Nov 1847
RACHEL Oakley, 29 July 1849
Parents SAMUEL/MARY Nee Dasley

MARRIAGE;
23 Jan 1847 same Church
Samuel OAKLEY, Bachelor, Labourer, Father Samuel ELLINOR (deceased)
Mary DASLEY, Spinster, Father GEORGE Dasley, Labourer

1871 Rachel Oakley is with William/Ann Harrod and she has 2 young Children, Mary Ann 3, George 7mths
1861 she is with them also

1851 with her Daisley Grandparents;
George Daisley, 52
Hannah Daisley, 48
Robert Daisley, 28
Rachel Oakley, 1***
Caroline Hewett, 2

She married James CHAPMAN, 18 Oct 1873 St Andrew, Father SAMUEL

Looks to me that Samuel Oakley is under Harrod in 1851;
William Harrod, 51
Ann Harrod, 53
SAMUEL Harrod, 36 (1815), Son, Widower, Labourer, born Bodney****
Sarah Harrod, 20
Matthew Harrod, 17
Robert Harrod, 10

It is possible Samuel remarried and put a false Father on his M/C;

MARRIAGE;
28 July 1856, St Clement, Terrington St Clement
Samuel OAKLEY, Wiower, Labourer, Father SAMUEL Oakley, Labourer
Frances BELL, Spinster, Father ROBERT Bell

Dropped his age also;

1861 Census
Samuel Oakley, 37 (1824) born Bodney
Frances Oakley, 26
Samuel Oakley, 2
Sarah Oakley, 6/12

1891 he is born c 1820 Bodney, Daug Sarah is with him

Still looking for earlier Census for him.
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 28 January 16 10:49 GMT (UK)
1871 as Samuel OAKLEY c 1825 Werthwood, Norfolk
1881 as Samuel OCKLEY c 1825 Bodney
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 28 January 16 10:55 GMT (UK)
All I jave posted is on FreeREG, these are on Familysearch. Org

Unless you dont have them ;

Christenings, Bodney, Norfolk;
JUDD Oakley, 27 March 1814
JAMES Oakley, 17 Nov 1816
SAMUEL Oakley, 6 June 1819
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 28 January 16 11:31 GMT (UK)
Just to wrap this up although you probably have all of this;

1851 Census
James Oakley, 34
Jane Oakley, 24
Marin Curtis Daysley, 4
Hannah Oakley, 1

MARIA CURTIS Daisley Baptised 6 Dec 1846, All Saints, Foulden
Mother JANE Daisley

Looks like Brothers married Sisters to me

BAPTISMS;
All Saints, Foulden
ROBERT Daisley, 21 April 1822
MARY Daisley, 29 Feb 1824
JANE Daisley, 24 Sept 1826
Parents GEORGE/HANNAH

1851 George Daisley is born c 1799 Market Worton, Suffolk

1841 we have;
George Daisly, 39
Hannah Daisly, 39
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: Angie Hawk on Saturday 30 January 16 21:02 GMT (UK)
Thank you Trish, some fantastic info to look over. My James emigrated to Aus in 1857 (not convicts) and his daughter Mary Ann was born in Norfolk in 1853 and came over as a child. His wife was Maria Clarke (married 1852).
Looks like his mother, Annie, is complicated. I'm away for 10 days but when I return I'll try to weave this lot together!
Angie
Title: Re: births three brothers 1814-1820
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 31 January 16 05:02 GMT (UK)
Enjoy your time away and let us know what you think when you get back. Quite a Woman was Annie :)