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Title: trying to find G Grandfather's details
Post by: buxtonwall on Wednesday 05 April 06 17:18 BST (UK)

Maybe this should be in the Beginners section but as it's about armed forces I thought I'd try here first.

I've just received my grandfather's birth certificate recording his birth on 10/9/1917 and is dated 22/10/1917. His father is recorded as Frederick George Wall and states his occupation as "driver royal field artillery". Now, we believe that he (Frederick) died during WW1 but as he's not recorded as late or deceased on this document can I assume he's still alive at this time?

I can't find an obvious entry on CWGC site for an F G Wall that would tie up with him being in the R.F.A. However, I've foundthis (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=6702915&queryType=1&resultcount=10) record in the national archives medal records. Was this man in R.F.A first or the veterinary corps?

Any help appreciated. Thanks.

Mike
Title: Re: trying to find G Grandfather's details
Post by: manmack on Wednesday 05 April 06 20:37 BST (UK)
veterinary corps first then transferred to the RFA,only one f,g wall died in ww1,and he never served overseas,he was in a training battalion and hes buried at penarth cemetary grave ref C116.are you certain he died in the war,mack
Title: Re: trying to find G Grandfather's details
Post by: buxtonwall on Wednesday 05 April 06 22:46 BST (UK)
Thanks Mack, I asked my Dad again earlier whether he was sure his Grandad died during the war and he said he wasn't 100%, it was just that he'd never met him so had assumed that he had died in WW1.  :-[

The problem I have is that my Grandad died quite young and non of my Dad's generation has really had that much contact with the family in Hay so I've got little to go on, I'm pretty much starting from scratch with this side of the family. I thought if I could find out some details about Frederick's military history I might be able to use any clues from that info to find the right person on 1901 census.



Title: Re: trying to find G Grandfather's details
Post by: buxtonwall on Tuesday 25 July 06 20:36 BST (UK)

OK. So after a bit of digging round I'm pretty sure that I've located the right F G Wall. I've bought his medal card and been using the brilliant article on the 1914-18.net site to interpret the content.

I'm just wondering whether any of you guys more experienced at looking at these cards might be able to use anything more subtle to tell me any more.

For example, do the letters before his RAVC service number mean anything? Also, he went to France 11/4/15 but by the time his '15 Star medal is awarded he's moved from RAVC to the RFA.

As always any help is greatly appreciated...

Mike
Title: Re: trying to find G Grandfather's details
Post by: Kevwood on Tuesday 25 July 06 21:02 BST (UK)
Hi Mike,

where abouts would he have been from?

Kev. ;D
Title: Re: trying to find G Grandfather's details
Post by: Kevwood on Tuesday 25 July 06 21:07 BST (UK)
Guessing Derbyshire.

Found a death:

Frederick Wall    age 39    Shardlow (7b 421)       3rd qrtr 1919

Thought might be a possible?

Kev.
Title: Re: trying to find G Grandfather's details
Post by: buxtonwall on Tuesday 25 July 06 21:59 BST (UK)

Hi Kev,

Thanks for looking. I should have said that I've found that Frederick came home after WW1 and actually lived until 1945 when he died in Hay-on-Wye aged 67.

Frederick's son was demobed in Buxton in 1946 after WW2 and stayed. He rarely went back to Hay and died when my dad was 14 that's why I'm struggling with this side of the family a bit.

Mike
Title: Re: trying to find G Grandfather's details
Post by: harribobs on Wednesday 26 July 06 09:21 BST (UK)

The Prefix (SE) is a common prefix in the (R) AVC and on a quick look i can't see what it relates to

at a guess i'd say he was wounded or sick, then transferred to the artillery
Title: Re: trying to find G Grandfather's details
Post by: Wendi on Wednesday 26 July 06 10:07 BST (UK)
The Prefix (SE) is a common prefix in the (R) AVC and on a quick look i can't see what it relates to

Well this is a first Chris ;D 

Prefix SE
- Army Veterinary Corps - Special Enlistment for Duration

Wendi ;)
Title: Re: trying to find G Grandfather's details
Post by: harribobs on Wednesday 26 July 06 10:37 BST (UK)

 ;D i was pretty sure it was new army but i didn't really have a clue

( and i don't like horses :P)