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Title: Grandmothers funeral
Post by: eric on Wednesday 26 April 06 16:52 BST (UK)
It is recorded in the School Log at Churchstoke that my granndfather was absent from school on 1st June 1876 to attend his grandmothers funeral. I am not sure where the funeral was held or which side of the family it was. My grandfathers parents were Edward G. Davies and Marther A Davies and were living at Top Shop also known as Upper Shop Churchstoke. Can anyone please help, it would enable me trace a new family line. 
Title: Re: Grandmothers funeral
Post by: Arranroots on Wednesday 26 April 06 17:01 BST (UK)
Hi Eric

We might need a few more details!

What is your grandfather's name, date of birth, father's occupation?  Anything else you know about him or his siblings would help.

Do you have his birth certificate yet, as that would give his mother's maiden name?

Hoping to help

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)

Title: Re: Grandmothers funeral
Post by: casalguidi on Wednesday 26 April 06 17:05 BST (UK)
Is it Edward G DAVIES age 50 grocer and draper and family living in Churchstoke 1881 RG11/5489 folio 85 page 3 ???

Casalguidi
Title: Re: Grandmothers funeral
Post by: ems girl on Wednesday 26 April 06 23:14 BST (UK)
On 1861 parish of Churchstoke;
Edward Davies age 32 born Llandinor occ; grocer
Martha Davies age 26 born Churchstoke wife
Curm age 4 born Clethinard
Mary Elizabeth age 7 born Shropshire
William age 5 born Clethinard
Francis John age 1 born Churchstoke

Is this the right family?

Looked at Shropshire c.1851, there is a marriage for Edward Davies and Martha Mainwaring apr qtr 1853 Wellington Sal vol 6a page 1376.
Looked there as Mary is born there 1854. Cant find any other marriage in Shropshire or Montgomeryshire.
If these are right I have found more....let me know.
Title: Re: Grandmothers funeral
Post by: eric on Thursday 27 April 06 20:39 BST (UK)
The imformation as I have it on the family is as follows Edward G Davies born Llandrinio 1829,,baptised 9th August 1829. [  I believe his parents were shop keepers in LLANDRINIO, his fathers name was probably Edward and his mothers name was probably Elizabeth . ] It would seem from my imfo that Edward G.[ probably George] Davies got married to Martha A. [probably Anncutt] surename at time of marriage unknown, in the June quarter 1853 ref Montgomery 116/425. The children were Mary Elizabeth born April 4th 1854, William born May 1st 1855 at Buttington. Ann born March 28th 1857 at Buttington. Francis John born November 13th 1859.Edward George born April 6th 1861 Churchstoke. Martha Selina born March 6th 1863 at Churchstoke. Sarah Anncutt born May 14th 1867 at Churchstoke. Margaret born October 2nd 1869 at Churchstoke.Louisa born October 21st 1871 at Churchstoke. Thomas Aeron born October 7th 1873 at Churchstoke. Alfred Owen Davies born March 21st 1877 at Churchstoke. This is the family detail as I have it at present. I am most grateful for your help and replys and look forward to any additional help you may be able to offer. Again very many thanks.
Title: Re: Grandmothers funeral
Post by: Arranroots on Thursday 27 April 06 21:32 BST (UK)
I believe this might be Edward G DAVIES in 1851

1851 census  HO107/2498/344/28

Aaron DAVIES H M 62 - shopkeeper grocer & draper - Salop Worthen?
Mary W M 58 - do wife - Salop Kinnersley
Edward nephew U 21 - assistant to grocer etc - Montgshire llandrinio
Thomas nephew U 20 - ditto - ditto
Elizth JONES servant U 10 - house servant - do Forden

Address: Brockton, Montgomeryshire

Shame it doesn't help too much with his parents, but I will have a look at 1841 too.

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)

Title: Re: Grandmothers funeral
Post by: Arranroots on Thursday 27 April 06 22:14 BST (UK)
There is no matching family in 1841, with brothers Edward & Thomas and living in Llandrinio.

Of course they might not be brothers.  Do you have certificates to support your thoughts on the parents' names?

Here is a possible: it seems unlikely geographically

1841 census  HO107/1440/13/18

Edwd DAVIES 50 - lab Y
Elizth 45 Y
William 12 Y
Thomas 10 Y
Richard 5 Y
David 2 weeks Y
Jane 8 Y
Margret 3 Y

Address: Port House, Gwistydd, Llanllwchaiarn, Montgomeryshire

Alternatively, there is a family in Shropshire

1841 census    HO107/909/26/6

Edward DAVIES 50 miller Y
Elizabeth 50 N
Edward 11 N
Thomas 10 N
William 7 N
+ various servants

Address: Worthen Mill, Worthen, Shropshire

It seems a much better fit, is not far from the children's birthplace, but the father's occupation is wrong.

What do you think?

A  ;)
Title: Re: Grandmothers funeral
Post by: kinged on Tuesday 02 May 06 22:38 BST (UK)
Hi.
I have just come across this posting, and my recollection of family talk is that our Gt Gt Grandfather had two mills at one time, although I don't know where they were, so it'S quite possible that the family in worthen is the right one.
Frank, (Eric's brother) :)
Title: Re: Grandmothers funeral
Post by: eric on Wednesday 03 May 06 21:38 BST (UK)
Hi, Glad to see you are following the trail. Eric.
Title: Re: Grandmothers funeral
Post by: eric on Friday 26 May 06 21:12 BST (UK)
Arranroots. I found your reply 1851 Census  HO107/2498/344/28 Re Aeron Davies  and his nephews etc. most interesting. It looks very much as if he could be a brother of the nephews father. I went to the Archives in Llanbdridod Wells but could not expand on it. Would you please expand on it both pre and post 1851, if you have the imformation, I would be most grateful for you help. Many thanks.  eric.
Title: Re: Grandmothers funeral
Post by: eric on Friday 26 May 06 21:42 BST (UK)
Arrowroots. Many thanks for your hard work, re grand mothers funeral,you have given me a broader look on my family back ground, your reply 1641 Census HO107/909/26/6 I feel confident you have it just right with the family at Worthen Mill, Worthen. I was aware we had millers in the family line, but did not know if they were fullen millers or corn millers. Again after a visit to to the Archives in Llandrindod Wells I could not expand on your imformation. I really do not know what I would do without the generouse help of people like yourself. Would I be asking too much of you if you any further imformation on the family as I seem to be drawing blanks. My gratefull thanks. eric.
Title: Re: Grandmothers funeral
Post by: Arranroots on Friday 26 May 06 21:44 BST (UK)
Hi Eric ( & Frank)

Will certainly put it on the to-do list, unless anyone beats me to it.

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)