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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Glamorganshire Lookup Requests => Glamorganshire => Wales => Glamorganshire Completed Lookups => Topic started by: redspookhunter on Friday 26 May 06 13:27 BST (UK)
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hi
have found a MARGARET B. STAFFORD this is the one!
oct,nov,dec 1917 she was 5
thanks guys!!
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Hi yet again ;)
Willing to spend a little time on this?
The complete death indexes are currently free to view here
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8966&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0
but they are not indexed. You will have to view the indexes quarter by quarter for the years in which the death could have occurred.
Good luck!
Tanja :)
PS I take it you are positive she didn't die in Ireland :P
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:)HI!
yes its all very confusing! seems all my familys named children after parents siblings etc peters daughter margaret was named after his sister and peters son james was named after his father,i will also need to find out why peter left ireland for wales?
watch this space :)
cheers for that :)
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I was wondering what the significance of the dates you quote is?
I have checked 1922/ 23/ 24 & she isn't there, if that helps? ;D
A ;)
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hello
well my grandmother was born in 1923 but was not adopted until she was 2 in 1925 i was wondering if she was a replacment for the margaret that died??
but if margaret died well befor 1925 then she probably wasnt.
peter and catherine were'nt married until 1911 and thier son james was born first but i dont have any dates??
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And I've just checked 1919/20 and 21 and she isn't there either.
Carol
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thanks guys i have also checked from 1917-1925 no luck ???
could she be a complete fabrication?
better check birth certs more indepthly they were married in1911 and had james first so it would of been after that and she was 4,i cant think what happened ???
i have a tiny mourning locket with a picture of a little girl in it nan said that her adoptive mum told her it was margaret,but the other side has a little boy in it a few years older supposedly james? as far as i know he was still alive when nan was married and my mum was a little girl,he went to india with the army and that was it,will search further :)
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Decided to approach this from a different angle ;)
With a mothers maiden name of Timmons(found on FreeBMD)
Margaret B Stafford born Pontypridd Sept 1/4 of 1912
James Stafford born Pontypridd March 1/4 of 1914.
Now we know when to look for a 4 year olds death.
Will do that next.
Carol
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With the birth dates to go by I have now searched 1914/15 and 16 for Margarets death-but found nothing.
Is it possible that she was a lot older(teenager?) when she died.
Or that she had an accident with a candle when she was 4 but didn't actually die then?
Rellies tell you all sorts of stuff they firmly believe is true.
It's up to us family historians to prove them wrong ;D ;D ;D
Or at least find out the true facts........and not let on half the time!
All the best
Carol
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It couldn't have been the mum Margaret who died being burnt in a candle fire - necessitating the adoption of her daughter by her brother Peter and his wife?
This sounds like it would have been in Ireland though?
The practice of naming children after grandparents,aunts and uncles is a very Irish one- makes tracing them so flipping confusing though.
Carol
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hi thanks carol great!
no this is not the mum margaret,my nan knows nothing of her except she braught disgrace to the family she never knew wether she was alive or dead margaret was a servant this was on nans birth cert,nan was in very bad health when peter and his wife adopted her.
going back to those dates though nan always thought that james was the first born but the way she used to talk seemed that he had left home when my nan was there,she talked about him joining up he seemed much older than my nan but if those dates are correct then he would have been around nine,but the dates seem right for the time they got married in 1911
curiouser and curiouser :)
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answering your question about margaret being older,well nan always said that she had been told the story of margarets death from the start that she was brushing her hair and the candle caught it,she died a few days later in hospital of pnewmonia,my nan was given a tiny ring that belonged to margaret gold with a little solitaire diomond,i remember this ring it would only go on my little finger and then only the tip of it,i dont know what happened to it. the only pictures of margaret were as a small child no older than 4 they are all gone now along with the ring,must look into this a bit more :)
thanks again carol!!
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another thought would this have been in the local paper? how do i find out which one??
also margaret was known as maggie would this make a difference?? ???
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Just so no one else goes looking unnecesarily,redspookhunter tells me that she has found little Margaret's death(age5) in the Dec 1/4 of 1917 in Pontypridd.
Glad to hear you've found it ;)
Carol