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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Flintshire => Topic started by: sem73 on Monday 29 May 06 18:26 BST (UK)
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Hi All
Does anyone know any info on the history on the above hall or any stories connected with it.
My mother grew up in nearby Eryrys, as did most of her ancestors, also in Llanfynydd and Hope. As a child she remembers well the "stone animals" along the walls of the property and consquently shared her fascination with them to me and my brother when we were small, giving the hall the title "the stone monkey house"!!! ;D
My grandmother was in domestic service there from the age of 14 in the late 1920's and early 1930s, she also told a story of an airfield being at the back of the hall.
Llanfynydd WW1 war memorial is also set into the stone of the wall, which seems an unusual choice of plot with it not traditionally being in the village??.....
I've included some photos taken yesterday of the stone animals and gardens....in a bid it may jog or ring a bell with anybody's memories!!.......
Any help or stories would be wonderful!!
Many Thanks
Sarah :)
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Just a couple more pictures....if anyone can put them the right way round!!!!!!.....
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Hi Sarah, Unfortunately I don't have much information on Rhos Uchaf Hall, but some of my ancestors lived at Rhos Uchaf, not necessarily the hall itself but in the surrounding area.Can I ask, does your family have connections with the Smallwoods? The Smallwoods were quite well reputed around the 1750s-1930s. They helped build Ffrith chapel and Cymau chapel which is just up the road from Llanfynydd.
Regards
Sharon
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Hi Sharon
Cheers for your reply!
I don't have Smallwoods as of yet in my tree!!!!.....but as the surrounding areas are close communities I've sure I may find one branching about along my tree!! ;D
The name Smallwood does ring a bell though??.....it's probably a name I've seen on gravestones during my ancestor hunt around the area!!
My ancestors are Griffiths', Davies' (typical!!) and Woodwards' all from Ffrith, Eryrys, Treuddyn, Llanarmon and Nercwys and any other teeny-weeny hamlet inbetween.
I grew up in Mold, but have resided in sunny Cheshire for the past 14 years.
If I come across anything of interest I'll let you know!.....and if you want any photos of the area let me know and I'll take them next time I'm "home"
Sarah :)
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Hello Sarah, There is a small clan of Smallwoods actually living in Treuddyn. I notice you also have Griffiths ancestors, again they appear in my tree. I believe the original Griffiths' came from Mold and were very well known cobblers in those days. Are you a member of GenesReunited? If so, I can give you access to my tree. Just search for William Smallwood b1750c (Llanfynydd) and you should be able to find me
Sharon
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Hi Sharon
I am related to the same Griffiths family as sem73 (Hi Sarah!)
You said 'I notice you also have Griffiths ancestors, again they appear in my tree. I believe the original Griffiths' came from Mold and were very well known cobblers in those days.' - Does this mean you are also related to the same Griffiths family as Sarah and I?
My connection is William Griffiths of Mold area who married a Martha, their son Henry born 1848 married a Jane Smith. Their son Henry born 1879 married Sarah Brown in 1903 in Llangollen (they went on to live in Glyn Ceiriog) - they were my great grandparents.
Regards
Alex
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Hello Alex, I do believe we could be related via the Griffiths of Mold. I have a Peter Griffiths (shoemaker) of Mold 1773 married to Mary Bellis b 1771. Had a son Thomas b1800 (mold) married to Margaret Wynne b.1799. Their son Ishmael Griffiths b.1824 (caused a major accident in a colliery in Brymbo, killing himself and others) married Sarah Jones b. 1825. Their son Thomas b.1844 (liverpool) married Harriet Matthias b. 1845 (broughton, denbighshire)were my 3 x great grandparents. The griffiths tree is very extensive. If you would like a copy send me your email address and we can go from there
best wishes
sharon
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My great grandfather was a William Griffiths born in Mold, Flintshire in the mid 1800's. He moved to Manchester, Lancs, and appears there in the 1901 census.
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Hi all
i m not related to any of you but i (from the age of 3) lived in Ffrith and used to attend the village school in Llanfynydd. I certainly remember the stone figures on the hall and they used to mesmerize me as a child.
really nice to see them again.
regards
steph
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Was the hall always known as Rhos Uchaf, I can find no mention of the place at all in the papers, strange as it seems such a splendid place.
Also struggling to find in the census records, but really I don`t know what parish it would be in.
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Hi, My gr/gr/gr Grandfather is Ishmael Griffiths :o The information I have says he married a Sarah Williams, but I'm not sure how reliable this is.
Do you have anymore information about the his relations?
Regards
Jeremy
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Hi Everyone
I've just started on the griffiths side of my family too - the shoemakers from Mold
My connection is Peter Griffiths 1809 son of William Griffiths 1775.
He married Arabella and is my Great Grandad
Would welcome any help any of u can offer thanks
Helen
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Hi,
I can't piece you into my family, but I believe I am distantly related to the shoemakes from Mold.
Have a look at my tree and see if any of it fits.
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/30248857/family?cfpid=12253574855
Good luck, Jeremy
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Hello,
My Great Grand Uncle is Alfred Owen Edwards who I believe is mentions on the War Memorial which is placed on the wall as mentioned in the original post - did anybody find the history re why the memorial was placed there?
Kind Regards
Julie
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Welcome to Rootschat.There is a pic of the War Memorial here;
http://www.clwydfhs.org.uk/cofadeiladau/llanfynydd_wm.htm
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Hi, I know it's a long time since this post has been in use, but just wanted to confirm I am related also through Ishmael Griffiths, whose son Thomas married Harriet Matthias, their daughter Sarah married George Smallwood. The Smallwood's were quite a wealthy family at one time, owning several messuages in Cymau, two brother's built Cymau chapel and also donated money to help build the Ffrith chapel. Have I opened a can of worms???
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Still nothing in the papers about Rhos Uchaf that I can find, but here are some pics.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-25891806.html
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I know this is an old discussion but I came across it while looking for information on the airfield that once was at Rhos Uchaf near Treuddyn and Llanfynydd. I am a Smallwood and I decend from the Smallwood's of Cymau. My great grandfather was a famous (apparently) chapel minister in the Cymau. My grandfather was a farmer from Nercwys and my father was a quarryman and we lived in Llanarmono yn Ial.
Funny what you find when you're looking for something completely different :)
Clwyd Smallwood
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Welcome to RC.
For those interested in the airfield.
http://www.airfieldinformationexchange.org/community/showthread.php?14142-Rhos-Uchaf-(Llanfynydd)-airfield
http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm?lat=53.103759&lon=-3.098287&lz=15&rz=17<=Old%2025K&rt=satellite