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Title: Montage
Post by: Swally on Saturday 12 August 06 11:39 BST (UK)
Hi Guys,

would any kind soul be prepared to do a montage picture of 4 generations of wedding pictures intot he one.  All the pictures are of very good quality going from 1870 - 1987, I would dearly like to have this done but my computer is a little under powered ............as is my ability to use Photoshop.

I have attached my mother & father's wedding picture and that of my gran & grandfather for starters, I just need the bride n groom from this one from the first one.
I would like to add my own wedding picture and that of my Great Grandfather

any takers

Wishing you all the best,

Swally from Scotland
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Saturday 12 August 06 11:46 BST (UK)
Post the other pic's along with instructions for any cropping ect and we can have a look. In the meantime have you any idea of just how you want it done? or would you like to look at suggestions?

                                                 Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Sunday 13 August 06 01:25 BST (UK)
Swally,
        Here is a bit of an idea.

       Could make the background one of the churches where your ancestors wed, could also include certificates. Or do you prefer a simple montge with only the wedding pics, tell me what you think before I go any further.

                                                 Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: boggabarrett on Sunday 13 August 06 02:56 BST (UK)
I like the idea of this one, put the rest of the pictures up and I for one will have a go.

Denn has a good idea on how to tackle it.

Bogga
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: liverpool annie on Sunday 13 August 06 02:58 BST (UK)




Denn !

I think that looks terrific ! but then maybe I'm just biased !!  ::) ::) ::)

Annie  :)
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: Swally on Sunday 13 August 06 10:30 BST (UK)
Denn,

a simple Montage would suit to be honest, I think it may be a bit cluttered with the dates on it.  A church bakground might be quite a good idea though, there would have been about 7 churches involved I have a picture of Calderhead Parish Church in Shotts where my parents were married I'll send it see what you think.

Wishing you all the best,

Swally
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Sunday 13 August 06 12:54 BST (UK)
Swally,
    Whatever you wish, I can have a look at the church pic's and we can go from there, I would only leave the church as a very faint image - so as not to interfere with the main pic's.

                                                  Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Monday 14 August 06 05:57 BST (UK)
Swally,
        I think that this may be what you're after - see what you think. As for any text, just let me know exactly what you want and where.

                                                    Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Monday 14 August 06 06:00 BST (UK)
Just looking at that, I reckon that your own wedding pic could do with being a bit bigger to fit with the others better.

                                                      Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: ymfoster on Monday 14 August 06 06:34 BST (UK)
Nice work Denn  :)
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: Lones on Monday 14 August 06 10:20 BST (UK)
Brilliant Denn!!!

How big would you normally print that, A3?

Dude you have some great ideas!!!! :o :) ;)  I love this and it's given me some great ideas to think about.  Excellent!!

Lones
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Monday 14 August 06 13:11 BST (UK)


How big would you normally print that, A3?


Lones

My rules for printing are to try and get
   300dpi (or more) for a decent print
    200dpi is okay
   150dpi absolute minimum - only as a last resort

    So if you consider that your screen is 72dpi (round up to 75dpi for a nice easy divisible figure - then 75 is half of your minimum 150dpi, so it would print at half the size you view on the screen (not a bad rule of thumb - half size of what you see on the screen for a passable print).
    However, this said in this case where I know it is going to be printed I have a second copy to email to Swally at 16x12inch - 200dpi (this is3200x2400pixels)

    Hope this explains okay.

                                                      Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: Swally on Monday 14 August 06 16:34 BST (UK)
Denn,

You have done a good job here, but possibly I was not as clear as I should have been.  What I would really like was that all the people appeared in the one big photograph as if they were all at the one social event.
I understand this may be a bit more difficult but if you wouldn't mind being up for the challenge, I think that would make an even more spectacular photograph.  In my own wedding picture the bride n groom would do nicely.

What I am trying to create is all those directly bear the Allan surname and those who are left to carry it forward.

Wishing you all the best,

Swally
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: Swally on Monday 14 August 06 16:41 BST (UK)
Denn,

just a thought.
I imagine that you would need some idea of heights in order to do this.
I myself am 5' 10 my father was 6'0 as is my brother (non kilted one)
my other brother with the kilt is 5'8.  My other uncle who is pictured would be just short of 6'....poss 5'10 - 5'11
My gran would be about 5'4 it doesn't matter about my Granda as he is seated but he was 6' +
My great gran I have no idea but my great grandfather was tall possibly 6'
I hope that this is some assistance.

Swally
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Monday 14 August 06 23:52 BST (UK)
Not a problem,
         Although it may be a couple of days, but I shall keep you updated if there is any prob's.

                                                        Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Tuesday 15 August 06 09:42 BST (UK)
Swally,
     This isn't quite the finished product but an update on what I am doing.
I had to put the tables in because yor grandparents and g.grandparents were cut off at the legs and to try and put legs on them would have been almost impossible. Also because your brother and his wife were photographed from a higher angle than the grandparents, I had to bring them to the front - otherwise they would have looked very un-natural.
If this is okay, let me know nd I shal finish the job.

                                                 Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: Swally on Tuesday 15 August 06 16:32 BST (UK)
Denn,

we are nearly there mate.
Could you make it look as tho they were all at a family wedding and having their picture taken as a group?
See if this helps-
My brother far left (Tom) bring him and his wife up closer to my mother & father even have my fathers right shoulder just in front of her
Have myself (far right) just tucked slightly behind my aunt.
Have my grandfather (bottom row left) bring his head upto just below my father's chest.
My Great Grandfather (bottom row right) invert this picture so his wife is on his left and bring his head upto the chest of my uncle Leslie.
Invert my brother Les (very bottom) so his wife Carole is on his right and move him to the far right of the picture.  This would mean Carole would tuck just under my wife
It may be an idea (I know that you aren't finished just yet) to make the shades of the suits of the guys quite alike.

I know that this is a great deal of work.......but hey! look at what I am teaching you......all for free.....lol ........only kidding.

Best of luck,

Swally
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Wednesday 16 August 06 03:04 BST (UK)
Swally,
     Here is where we are at now, I cant bring your g/grandfather any higher without his wifes hat hiding your brothers wife. as for making the suits match, unfortunately the darker suits lack any detail and when I use the match colour command they become washed out.

                                             Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: boggabarrett on Wednesday 16 August 06 03:27 BST (UK)
I reckon you are doing marvels Denn, and I am getting all sorts of ideas from what you are doing.
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Wednesday 16 August 06 04:49 BST (UK)
I am getting all sorts of ideas from what you are doing.

Here are a few more ideas for you to toy with

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,12461.30.html    2 on this page

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,146629.15.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,152648.0.html



                                               Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: sula_nebouxii on Wednesday 16 August 06 05:10 BST (UK)
Denn, you have some fantastic ideas!!  And, I imagine, an infinite supply of patience :)

Sula
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Wednesday 16 August 06 05:19 BST (UK)
Thank you, by the way are you trying to impersonate a blue footed booby bird? and why?

                                             Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: Chris Frater on Wednesday 16 August 06 05:49 BST (UK)
Denn,

All I got say is what awesome work you do!!

Absolutely Beautiful

I get half this good I will be impressed.

awesome just awesome

Trina
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: sula_nebouxii on Wednesday 16 August 06 06:15 BST (UK)
You got it right, Denn.   I adopted the blue footed booby as a  mascot years ago, after a comment  along the lines of  "That looks like you dancing!" 

Dancing like nobody's watching is the only way   ;D

Sula

Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Wednesday 16 August 06 08:23 BST (UK)
Against  backdrop of Glen Sligachan,

                                         Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: crabbya on Wednesday 16 August 06 15:18 BST (UK)
Stunning!!

Crabby
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: crabbya on Wednesday 16 August 06 15:20 BST (UK)
That is a terrific idea!

Crabby
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: Swally on Wednesday 16 August 06 17:15 BST (UK)
Denn,

you are doing a fab job,

Would it be possible to lift myself up a tad so I am about heights with my uncle Leslie?
bring my brother's wife (far left) in front of my father and make them a bit taller as my brother is taller than my father.
I think the scale of my great grandfather is a tad too big as he looks a good big broader than my granda.
My brother Les, i think is a wee bit too big also.
Here is a suggestion,  I don't know if you could super impose steps, if that was a possibility you could step the back row up a tad and this would enable you to move my brother Les in along the front along side my great granda.

What about this suggestion with regards to colour, if you colourised the suits just a touch different  it then returned it to black and white would that not do away with the washed out look?

I wouldn't mind seeing it with a bit of colour that might just distract the eye enough to make it look like the one picture.
Have you tried it with the Calderhead Parish Church as a backdrop?

I honestly don't think that you are far away from bang on Denn, keep up the brilliant work.

Swally





Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Thursday 17 August 06 08:29 BST (UK)
Swally,
      Hope the people are where you wanted them, I managed to put the church in but had to distort it - otherwise only the very top would have been visible. Regarding the suits, the reason they would be washed out is because of lack of detail, so any amount of colouring would only make it worse - I would suggest to leave them as is
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: Swally on Thursday 17 August 06 16:42 BST (UK)
Denn,

fantastic job there pal, could you just down size my great granda a tad and apart from that I think it is smashing.  I think the veiw you had in the background may be better.  If you could E-mail me a copy so as I can print it off full size I would be obliged.

Thanks very much Denn, a talented Gentleman right enough.

Cheers for that

Swally
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: dennford on Friday 18 August 06 00:03 BST (UK)
     Not a problem Swally, yes, I do think the glen sligachan backdrop had a form more suited. I shall re-size your great grandad a little and email a jpeg that will print at anything up to A3 size.
      A tip here, I find that here in Perth (W.A.) when I want something printed A4 or bigger, it is much cheaper to go to a commercial printer than a photographic shop - we have a chain of shops in W.A. called "Snap Printing" and they do a fantastic job for me.

                                            Denn

p.s.    It should be sometime this arvo by the time I get it away to you.

                                             Denn
Title: Re: Montage
Post by: newbie on Saturday 19 August 06 07:34 BST (UK)
Denn,
I have just seen this thread, that is absolutely amazing, so much work..
thanks for giving us all the ideas, I could use certificates, and I could try cutting out the figures..... no time for the housework today!
Newbie