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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: dortmund on Sunday 13 August 06 11:22 BST (UK)
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Hi,
Seeking any info on the following family. :-
CHARLES CAUSER was born 12 April 1836 in Droitwich,Worcestershire, and died 19 November 1912 in Milwaukee,Wisconsin,USA. He married CATHERINE HUGHES 01 February 1858 in Tipton,Staffordshire, daughter of JOHN HUGHES and LYDIA ?. She was born Abt. 1837 in Tipton,Staffordshire, and died 09 September 1911 in Milwaukee,Wisconsin,USA.
More About CHARLES CAUSER:
Burial: November 1912, Forest Home Cemetery,Milwaukee,Wisconsin,USA
Christening: 04 December 1836, Droitwich,Worcestershire
More About CATHERINE HUGHES:
Burial: September 1911, Forest Home Cemetery,Milwaukee,Wisconsin,USA
Christening: 23 July 1837, St Thomas,Dudley,Worcestershire
Residence: 1841, Tipton,Staffordshire
More About CHARLES CAUSER and CATHERINE HUGHES:
Marriage: 01 February 1858, Tipton,Staffordshire
Child of CHARLES CAUSER and CATHERINE HUGHES is:
i. ANN MATILDA3 CAUSIER, b. 15 June 1861, Sedgley,Staffs; d. 01 April 1940, Hollywood,Los Angeles,CA,USA; m. JOHN HENRY CARR, 10 October 1880, Whitwood Mere,Yorks; b. 20 July 1862, Castleford,Yorks; d. 13 January 1933, Hollywood,Los Angeles,Ca,USA.
Trevor
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1841 census - in Stoke Prior, Worcs
HO107/1203/9
Registration district of Bromsgrove
Folio: 12
Page: 16
All born In County
William Causer 40 Labourer
Ann Causer 30
George Causer 15
Henery Causer 8
James Causer 10
John Causer 6
Charles Causer 4
David Causer 2
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1841 census - in Tipton
HO107/982/5
Registration district of Dudley
Sub-registration district is Tipton
Folio: 19
Page: 30
All born in County ... living in Stokes Buildings ..
John Hughes 35 Smith
Lydia Hughes 40
Henry Hughes 6
Catherine Hughes 3
John Hughes 1
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1851 - a bit of a trawl to tease Charles out - and using a different PoB ... but its the same family
HO107/2046 Folio 422 Page 6 - in Dodderhill, Worcs .. Hill End
They are all shown as born Dodderhill ...
William Causier 54 Head Labourer
Ann Causier 43 Wife
James Causier 21 Son
Henry Causier 19 Son
John Causier 17 Son
Charles Causier 14 Son
David Causier 11 Son
Emanuel Causier 8 Son
Elizabeth Bernat 6 Niece born Liberty of Droitwich, Worcester
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Hi Scroppers,
Thanks very much for the info, I am tracing this family for a cousin from the USA who is visiting the UK in September.
Trevor
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Catherine in 1851, still in Tipton with parents...
HO107/ 2029 Folio 244 Page 38 - Tipton, Wood Street
All children born Tipton
John Hughes 46 Head BlackSmith born Bilston, Staffs
Lydia Hughes 48 Wife born Brierly Hill, Worcs
Henry Hughes 15 Son
Catherine Hughes 13 Dau
John Hughes 11 Son
Lydia Hughes 9 Son
Neomi Hughes 4 Dau
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1861 - another spelling anomoly ...
RG9/2050 Folio 10 Page 13 - in Sedgely, Staffs - Chapel Street
Charles Causier 25 Head Labourer born Droitwich Worcs
Catherine Causier 23 Wife born Tipton, Staffs
Manwellia Causier 2 Tipton
Births Mar 1859
CAUSER Manwellow Dudley 6c 51
The daughter you show in your request, was born AFTER the 1861 Census - so when did they go the USA ?
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Hi Scroppers,
Thanks once again for the last two census.
Trevor
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1871 - still in the UK ... another different spelling
heres the Yorkshire connection for Ann M ?
RG10/4639 Folio 63 Page 17 - Castleford, Yorkshire - Half Acres (Street)
Charles Causier 34 Head Chemical Works Labourer born Droitwich
Caterine Causier 33 Wife born Staffs
Manweller Causier 12 Dau born Staffs
Annie Causier 10 Dau born Staffs
Edward Slater 24 Lodger Furnace Man born Droitwich
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1881 still in the UK - in Yorkshire ..
RG11/4591 Folio 33 Page 18 - Whitwood, Richard Row
Charles Causer 44 Head Brickmaker - Droitwich PoB
Catherine Causer 43 Wife Tipton
Charles Causer 6 Son Yorkshire
Martha Causer 5 Dau Yorkshire
George Joiner 36 Boarder Civil Engineer Yorkshire
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Marriages ... you have Annies - heres Manwella's - we could find which of the males you married perhaps from the 1891 ..
Marriages Dec 1880
BATTEY Mary Elizabeth Pontefract 9c 116
CAUSIER Manwella Pontefract 9c 116
FIELD Enoch Pontefract 9c 116
Websdale Frederick Pontefract 9c 116
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Cant see any of them in 1891 - so guess they emigrated in the 80s ?
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Might as well have the earliest census that John H Carr appears on ..
1871 RG10/4637 Folio 28 Page 11 - Castleford, Whitwood Mere,
William Carr 30 Head Coal Miner Seacroft
Elizabeth Carr 26 Wife
Grice Ethell Carr 6
John Henry Carr 8 Castleford
Mary Medora Carr 3
George Herbert Carr 1 Whitwood Mere
John Carr 67 Father Coal Miner Melkley
Jane Carr 53 Mother born Clifford
Jane Carr 30 Sister
Elizabeth Ann Carr 3 Niece
Jane Ann Carr Kitson 2 Niece
Esther Kitson 21 Sister
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Hi Scroppers,
Thanks for all the info you have provided.
I have a note that Charles CAUSIER was living at 188 Williams Street,Milwaukee,Wisconsin and that they imigrated 1889/90.
Trevor
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1910 census - 188 Williams Street, District 180, Ward 17, Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin
Charles Causer [Causser?]; 73; married 53 yrs.; b. England; parents b. England; immigrated 1880, naturalized; no occupation, income; own home
Catherine [looks like Carhanes] Causer; 72; married 53 yrs.; 11 children, 11[?] living; b. England; parents b. England; no occupation, income; own home
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Hi Erato,
Thanks for the census info, it confirms the imagration date better also confirms the address they were living at.
Trevor
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and that they imigrated 1889/90.
the 1910 censu says 1880 - but we had them on a census in Yorkshire 1881 ....
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Hi Scroppers,
I haven't seen the 1910 census, is it possible that the 9 looks like an 0
Trevor
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1910 USA Census posted by Erato
1910 census - 188 Williams Street, District 180, Ward 17, Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin
Charles Causer [Causser?]; 73; married 53 yrs.; b. England; parents b. England; immigrated 1880, naturalized; no occupation, income; own home
Catherine [looks like Carhanes] Causer; 72; married 53 yrs.; 11 children, 11[?] living; b. England; parents b. England; no occupation, income; own home
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Hi Scroppers & Erat,
After seeing some of the US census it could as I said before a 9 looking like a 0.
Trevor
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It looks like 1880 to me, but the handwriting on this page is pretty cramped and difficult to read. Here's the original.
Dortmund, do you want more US censuses for these people or do you want the English census information?
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Hi Trevor
Daughter Ann & her CARR family were back in the UK in 1901:
1901 - Headingley cum Burley, Kirkstall Yorkshire
Ecclesiastical parish: Kirkstall St Stephen
RD : Leeds Sub-RD: Kirkstall ED: 36
REF: Class: RG13; Piece: 4247; Folio: 71; Page: 29
Address: 6 Morris View
Head: John H CARR 38, Station-------? H----", (worker) b Castleford Yorks.
Wife: Ann M CARR 39, b Tipton Yorks.
Son: Charles W CARR 13, Engine Fitter Apprentice, b Bridgewater Lunner?
Dau: Jane C CARR 12, b Racine Wisconsin British Subjest
Son: Ernest G CARR 10 b Racine Wisconsin British Subject
Dau: Bertha M CARR
7 b Racine Wisconsin British Subject
This places them immigrating 1888/1889
Cheers
AMBLY
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Hi Trevor
Of the two named possible grooms above by Scroppers, Daughter Manwell(i)a married Enoch FIELD......in 1920 Wisconsin Census are these 3 families:
1920 - Milwaukee - Ward 17, Milwaukee Cty , Wisconsin State
188 Williams Street
Head: Charles CAUSER 45, b England, Imm 1880, Naturalised 1917, Labourer in Steel Co. Own home, English parents
Wife: Elizabeth CAUSER 36, b England, imm 1901, Naturalised 1917, English parents.
Son: Charles CAUSER 12, b Wisconsin
Dau: Alice CAUSER 8, b Wisconsin.
then:
188 1/2 (half) Williams Street
Head: Chas. FIELD 36, b Eng, imm: 1883, Naturalised 1917 - Malster - Malt ----? (worker) Rented Home.
Wife: Gertie FIELD 21, b England, imm 1903, Naturalised 1917
Son: Enoch FIELD 12, b Wisconsin
Dau: Myrtle FIELD 10 b Wisconsin
Son: Charles FIELD 1 yr +8mths, b Wisoconsin
Boarder: George DICKEY, 31, unm, b Wisconsin of English father, Swedish mother, Labourer in Steel works.
then: straight after:
186 Williams Street
Head: Enoch FIELD 63, b England, imm 1890, Natulisation PA (1st papers) 1917, Labourer in Steel Co, Own Home (freehold)
Wife: Morella FIELD 62, b England, Imm 1890, Naturalisation (PA?) 1917
Dau: Edith FIELD 19, married (sic), b Wisconsin, English parents.
Cheers
AMBLY
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Hi AMBLY,
Thanks for the US census details, the Charles CAUSER 45 (1920 census) looks as though he is the one born 1876 (parents Charles & Catherine)
Thanks once again
Trevor
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Here is the 1900 Census
Milwaukee Ward 17, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
186 Williams Street
Head: Enoch FIELD 42 - b Eng Aug 1857, married 22 yrs, Imm 1884, Masons Helper - Day Labourer
Wife: Manwella FIELD 41 - b Eng Feb 1859, married 22 yrs, Imm 1884, birthed 10 children - 8 still living.
Son: Enoch FIELD 20 - b Eng Jan 1880, single, Imm 1884, Masons Helper - Day Labourer
Dau: Ada FIELD 18 - b Eng Sep 1881, single, Imm 1884
Son: Charles C FIELD 16 - b Eng 1883, Imm 1884 - Carrying in at Glass Works
Dau: Lottie FIELD 14, b Wisc. Mar 1886, At School
Son: Thomas A FIELD 12 - b Wisc Jul 1887, At School
Son: George A FIELD 9 - b Wisc. Jul 1880**, At School
Dau: Florence A FIELD 7 - b Wisc. Aug 1882**, At School
Son: Frederick A FIELD 2 - b Wisc. Aug 1887**
Then next on the same page (indexed as CAWSIER)
188 Williams Street
Head: Charles CAUSER 56** - b Eng Nov 1843**, married 43 yrs, Imm 1881, 19 yrs in US, PA*, Mason Helper
Wife: Catherine CAUSER 56** - b Eng Jul 1843**, married 43 yrs, Imm 1881, 19 yrs in US, has birthed 11 children, 4 still living.
Son: Charles CAUSER 24 (sic) - b Eng 1875, imm 1881, 19 yrs in US, PA*, Masons Helper.
Often ages and birth dates, and Imm Year & Nr of yrs in US, don't match on 1900 Census - has to do with arithmetic the enumerator had to perform when transferring data from his House Schedule to the book proper - they often got it a bit wrong!! The youngest 3 FIELD children clearly born in 1890's not 1880's.
PA = Has first papers toward Naturalisation.
In 1910 Census, Enoch FIELD Snr and family - are on the page before Charles & Catherine CAUSER (as provided by Erato, earlier)
Milwaukee Ward 17, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Head: Enoch FIELD 52, b Eng, Imm 1884, Naturalised, Brick Mason - Brickyard
Wife: Manvilla FIELD 51, b England, Imm 1884, Birthed 11 children, 9 still living. Married 31 years.
Son: Frederick FIELD 13, b Wisc.
Dau: Daisey E FIELD 89, b Wisc.
Here is Enoch & Family entry into the US:
SS GERMANIC
Departed Liverpool, Arrived New York 11 May 1885
Manifest page 4, Passengers 165 to
Enoch FIELD 27, miner**
Mrs FIELD 27. wife
Enoch FIELD 4, Child
Edith FIELD 2 Child
Chas. FIELD 10 mth, Infant
They are English, last residence Liverpool, are "Thru" passengers )ie: passing thru NY, and have 4 pieces of luggage.
Enoch's occupation is a ditto mark, under the person above him listed as a mINER.
Cheers
AMBLY
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Hi Ambly,
Thanks once again for the wonderful census details
Trevor
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I am a Hughes, of a line of hugheses from Wood Street, Tipton.
Can I help at all?
I have a great uncle Jack (John?) Hughes, born in Wood Street.
My dad: Peter Hughes
Grandad: William Hughes
Gr. Grandad: Stephen Hughes
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Hi,
I would be very interested in any info you could supply I have quite a bit of info on the HUGHES family which we could share.
Trevor
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Charles was my G-G-Grandfather. I noticed from your post that you are researching the Ware family from Wisconsin. I have a Leroy Ware b. 7 Feb 1912, married Dorothy M Carr. By any chance is this part of your clan?
Kathy
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Hi Kathy -
Welcome to RootsChat. Is your question addressed to me? My Ware ancestors were from Maine; gg grandfather Cyrus H. Ware and his family went out to Outagamie County, Wisconsin in about 1850. But there was no one named Leroy.
Erato
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Hi Kathy,
Welcome, My interest in this family is thro one of the Causer family marring into the Carr family, one of my ETHELL family married a Carr. I have quite a bit on the Causer's-Carr's-Ethell's, perhaps we could exchange info let me know.
Trevor
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Hi Trevor,
Re the message you received about Ann Carr returning from Wisconsin.
She and her husband and children came back to England via Montreal arriving in Liverpool on the 25th August 1894.(UK immigration records)
Do you know when they emigrated to America and what they did there
Many thanks
Carole
Hi Trevor
Daughter Ann & her CARR family were back in the UK in 1901:
1901 - Headingley cum Burley, Kirkstall Yorkshire
Ecclesiastical parish: Kirkstall St Stephen
RD : Leeds Sub-RD: Kirkstall ED: 36
REF: Class: RG13; Piece: 4247; Folio: 71; Page: 29
Address: 6 Morris View
Head: John H CARR 38, Station-------? H----", (worker) b Castleford Yorks.
Wife: Ann M CARR 39, b Tipton Yorks.
Son: Charles W CARR 13, Engine Fitter Apprentice, b Bridgewater Lunner?
Dau: Jane C CARR 12, b Racine Wisconsin British Subjest
Son: Ernest G CARR 10 b Racine Wisconsin British Subject
Dau: Bertha M CARR
7 b Racine Wisconsin British Subject
This places them immigrating 1888/1889
Cheers
AMBLY
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Dear "Cousin",
Having just 'found' 'Uncle John's' wife to be Ann Matilda Causier - I now see where you fit in to my family tree (I belong to Annie Carr 1871). It also explains why when I was clearing out my Great Aunt's posessions after she died 9in the 80's) I found a beautiful & huge brouchure for Forest Lawn Cemetery (looking like it was from around the 1930/40's). Although I must say that the photo I have of "John & Annie" taken "in another corner of our living room" did not lead me to expect them to be in America - just goes to show - they must have gone back after 1901. In fact I thought I'd found a further record of John coming back to England later on - I'll have another look if you like
Get in touch
Carole
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Hi Carole,
Sorry to be so long in answering. Looking at what I have on John & Annie they went back to the USA in 1907, will try and find the papers I had on them.
Trevor
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I am the 2nd Great Granddaughter of Charles Causier and Catharine Hughes. Conducting research on this line since the 1970's. I met another researcher - SHESEEKS who happens to be the 2nd Great Granddaughter of Charles and Catharine too. It was very nice for all who provided such indepth material to her. I already had the information, but it was good to cross reference my old notes again. Amazing all the material that is now found on line, where as years ago, we waited for films to arrive before we could even hope to locate anything. And the old microfilm and filch machines were deplorable at best.
There is a Causier group on Facebook and all are welcome to join. We try to work together, with one goal--UNITE There are wonderful pictures posted as well.
THANKS AGAIN
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John and Annie left lIverpool Sept. 8, 1907, arrived America 15 Sept. 1907. They went back to Bay View, Milwaukee, Wisconsin to join their son, Charles who arrived from England in 1905. Charles married his cousin Charlotte Field in Bay View. They quickly move to White Pine, Nevada. This family moves and visits often from Wisconsin and Nevada and then Utah and then California, USA
Dear "Cousin",
Having just 'found' 'Uncle John's' wife to be Ann Matilda Causier - I now see where you fit in to my family tree (I belong to Annie Carr 1871). It also explains why when I was clearing out my Great Aunt's posessions after she died 9in the 80's) I found a beautiful & huge brouchure for Forest Lawn Cemetery (looking like it was from around the 1930/40's). Although I must say that the photo I have of "John & Annie" taken "in another corner of our living room" did not lead me to expect them to be in America - just goes to show - they must have gone back after 1901. In fact I thought I'd found a further record of John coming back to England later on - I'll have another look if you like
Get in touch
Carole
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These are my notes: Don't know where you are getting the name Elizabeth Carr- as his wife is listed as Jane
1851 England Census Parish of Methley, Yorkshire, England
John Carr age 37 born Methley, Yorkshire Coal Miner
Jane wife age 36 born Cliforth, Yorkshire
William son age 10 born Seacroft, Yorkshire
Joseph son age 8 born Crossgats, Yorkshire
Elizabeth daughter age 6 born Crossgats, Yorkshire
Ann daughter age 4 born Bottomboat, Yorkshire
Hestser daughter age 1 born Crossgates, Yorkshire
1861 England Census Parish of Castleford, Yorkshire Dist. 16 Reg. Dist. of Pontefract
John Carr age 47 head born Methley, Yorkshire Coal Miner
Jane wife age 44 born Cliforth, Yorkshire
Wiliam son age 20 born Sea Croft, Yorkshire Coal Miner
Joseph son age 18 born Barwick, Yorkshire Glass bottle maker
Easter daughter age 11 born Sea Croft, Yorkshire Glass paint cutter
1871 England Census Parish of Whitwood, Ecclesiastical Parish of Whitwood Mere All Saints
Town: Whitwood Mere, County Yorkshire Reg. Dist. Pontefract Sub. Dist. Castleford
Methley rd house 44.
William Carr head 30 born SeaCroft, Yorkshire Coal Miner
Jane wife 30 born Emsall
John Henry son 8 born Castleford, Yorkshire Scholar
Grice Ethell son 6 born Castleford, Yorkshire Scholar
Mary Nedra daughter 3 born Castleford, Yorkshire
George Herbert son 1 born Whitwood Mere, Yorkshire
John Carr father 67 born Methley, Yorkshire Coal Miner
Jane Carr mother 53 born Clifford, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Carr sister single 26 born Bartwick in Elmiet, Yorkshire Seamstress
Esther Kilson sister married 21 born SeaCroft, Yorkshire Laborers wife
Elizabeth Ann Carr Niece age 3 born Whitwood Mere, Yorkshire
Jane Ann Kilson Niece age 2 born Terry Bridge, Yorkshire
1881 England Census Whitwood, Yorkshire
8 Rhodes St.
William Carr 40 born Seacroft, Yorkshire. Coal miner.
Jane wife, 40 born Emstall, Yorkshire
Grice Ethell son, 16 born Castleford
Annie daughter 9 born Whitwood, York in school
Bertha daughter 8 born Whitwood, Yorkshire in school
Sarah E. daughter 5 born Featherstone
William son 4 born Normanton, Yorkshire.
Might as well have the earliest census that John H Carr appears on ..
1871 RG10/4637 Folio 28 Page 11 - Castleford, Whitwood Mere,
William Carr 30 Head Coal Miner Seacroft
Elizabeth Carr 26 Wife
Grice Ethell Carr 6
John Henry Carr 8 Castleford
Mary Medora Carr 3
George Herbert Carr 1 Whitwood Mere
John Carr 67 Father Coal Miner Melkley
Jane Carr 53 Mother born Clifford
Jane Carr 30 Sister
Elizabeth Ann Carr 3 Niece
Jane Ann Carr Kitson 2 Niece
Esther Kitson 21 Sister
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I am a Hughes, of a line of hugheses from Wood Street, Tipton.
Can I help at all?
I have a great uncle Jack (John?) Hughes, born in Wood Street.
My dad: Peter Hughes
Grandad: William Hughes
Gr. Grandad: Stephen Hughes
Hi, I am the 2nd Great Granddaughter of Catherine Hughes married to Charles Causier
If you think you are related, please contact me
Catherine Hughes was born May 15, 1837 in Tipton, Staffordshire, England
BAPTISM-CHRISTENING: Catherine was baptized July 23, 1837, at St. Thomas Parish, in Dudley, Worcester, England. (Dudley parish is within the boundaries of Staffordshire, but ecclesiastically Dudley Parish is part of Worcester. Two churches in Dudley are St. Thomas and St. Edmond. They were combined by 1831 to St. Thomas. Hence, Catherine was born in Stafford, but Christened in Worcester. Parish of birth is listed as Tipton, Staffordshire, England. (FHL-ref.1342103 pg.18)
Christening records were also located for this Hughes family on the Family History Library-International Genealogical Index computer records.
Children of Lydia and John Hughes:
Matilda, 1 Feb. 1830
Thomas, 10 Mar. 1833
Henry, 7 Sep. 1834
Catherine, 23 July, 1837
The following census records state that Catharine Hughes was born in Staffordshire, England. She was baptised in Dudley, Worcester, which was within the boundaries of Staffordshire, England. However, when Catherine's daughter, Anna Matilda Causier, Carr died in 1940 California, USA, her death certificate stated that her mother: Catherine Hughes was born in Bangor Hall, Wales! Nobody seems to know where this bit of information came from.
CATHERINE IN THE HOME OF HER PARENTS-JOHN HUGHES AND LYDIA
1841 England Census
Tipton, Staffordshire, England FHL 474,616 #9
Hughes, John, blacksmith of Staffordshire/England
Lydia his wife of Staffordshire/England
Henry son age 6 of Staffordshire/England
Catherine daughter age 3 of Staffordshire/England
John son age 1 of Staffordshire/England
CATHERINE IN THE HOME OF HER PARENTS-JOHN HUGHES AND LYDIA
1851 England Census
Tipton, St. Paul, Staffordshire
# 141 on Wood St.
John Hughes, blacksmith age 46 of Staffordshire, England
Lydia wife age 48
Henry son age 15 of Staffordshire, England
Catherine daughter age 13 of Staffordshire, England
John son age 11 of Staffordshire, England
Lydia daughter 9 of Staffordshire, England
Neomi daughter 4 of Staffordshire, England
I have more