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Title: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: chartwell on Saturday 30 September 06 11:27 BST (UK)
Can anyone help me in the search for a Samuel Wragg born 1768 and in Sheffield I am also attempting to find his marriage and to whom
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 30 September 06 11:59 BST (UK)

If you go to http://www.familyhistoryonline.net they have a number of Samuel Wragg, West Riding, references including an 1831 Sheffield census entry and a wedding in Pontefract in 1786. The charges are very reasonable - usually just a few pence per item.
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 30 September 06 12:06 BST (UK)
Just looking at the IGI which has a submitted record - handle with care - for a Samuel Wragg b. 1768 marriage to Mary Baker in Sheffield 3 Oct 1793.
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: chartwell on Saturday 30 September 06 12:13 BST (UK)
Many thanks for your prompt reply. How do I go about further research for Samuel Wragg and now Mary Baker
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 30 September 06 13:00 BST (UK)
There's also a submitted record reference in the IGI to Mrs Sarah Wragg who was married to a Samuel Wragg born Sheffield around 1768. According to the IGI both Sarah and Mary were born c 1772. These records are notoriously unreliable but it's start. There are entries in the 1841 Sheffield census for both a Mary Wragg and a Sarah Wragg of roughly the right age group. Mary is with a Samuel Wragg aged 40 - is he a relative of yours? Can you tell us what you already know about the Samuel b.1768 that you are looking for e.g names of any children?
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 30 September 06 14:03 BST (UK)
Another one from the IGI: Saml. Ragg baptised at Sheffield St Peter's Cathedral 18 May 1768, father James Ragg.
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: chartwell on Sunday 01 October 06 11:54 BST (UK)
Thanks for your repliesMy family tree sarting with my grandfather Samuel Wragg 1876-Catherine Jordan 1879,Samuel Wragg 1851-Mary Fearn 1851,Samuel Wragg 1831-Elizabeth Wragg 1842,John Wragg 1810-Esther Wragg 1806.
I then have  a 33 year gap for Samuel Wragg 1768-Mary Baker 1772, Issac Wragg 1750- Ann Powell 1756.

Other than my Grandfathers children I do not have any other children listed.
  Can you help me out with the 33 year gap and the other children??
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 01 October 06 12:06 BST (UK)
Chartwell - before I start digging have you collected any census data from 1841 or 1851 as yet ?
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: chartwell on Sunday 01 October 06 12:09 BST (UK)
Yes i have done this but it is still the 33 year gap I cannot reconcile or find any children
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 01 October 06 12:19 BST (UK)
Have you identified any of your Wragg family in the 1841/1851 censuses and if so can you post the details ? It would help to focus this a bit.
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: chartwell on Tuesday 03 October 06 16:06 BST (UK)
Thanks for your reply.  I have now gone back over my research for the Wragg Family ( My Mothers side)And I have a gap between Samuel Wragg Born 1768 and married to a Mary Baker B 1756 and John Wragg Born 1810 and married to a Mary  Wragg B1812
I am stumped attempting to find the WRAGG for the 43 year gap I nowhave
I have traced a Issac Wragg B1752 who married an Ann Powell B1756 but this is as far back as I have been able to trace
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: alnat on Tuesday 03 October 06 21:17 BST (UK)
Can you give the references for Census and GRO Birth refs for any of the Wraggs?

I've tried looking for the first Samuel who you say was born 1876 in Sheffield but can't find him on 1881/1891/1901 Census with a father Samuel & mother Mary. When did he marry?

GRO only has references for Samuels born Mar 1875 Ecclesall, Sep 1875 Sheffield or Jun 1879 Sheffield. Do you have his birth cert. to verify the 1876 info?

The only one I can find that has Samuel/Samuel is this in 1881 at Lambourne Sq, St Philips, Sheffield

Samuel Wragg 50 Scale cutter
Elizabeth 39
Jane 18
Sarah 14
Charles 11
Ellen 9
SAMUEL 5
George 3
Mary 3 months
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: Tuppie on Saturday 14 October 06 21:30 BST (UK)
Hi Chartwell.

How do you know that Isaac WRAGG is your ancestor if you have a 43 year gap? Have you jumped a couple of generation...?

I have a Samuel WRAGG born 1828 in Sheffield his father is also Samuel of Furnace Hill Cutler.

WRAGG is common name in Sheffield...and then you have the Derbyshire WRAGGS who came to Sheffield.

I haven't done any research on these for about 3 years as I know I need to sit in the archives and sort them out from the parish records which incidentally have not been filmed by the LDS...The then Dean of Sheffield would not allow it.
The St Peter & St Paul baptism index produced by S&DFHS list two John WRAGGs born in 1809 but none in 1810. This was the parish church of Sheffield and almost all baptisms took place here.

John son of Joshua and Ann WRAGG /occupation Grinder born 6 th Feb 1809 baptised 5th March 1809

John son of John & Charlotte WRAGG/ Occupation Grinder born 20th May 1809 and baptised 25th June 1809


Regards
Tuppie
Title: Re: 1768 Births in Sheffield
Post by: Helen O on Tuesday 17 October 06 19:12 BST (UK)
Hi there,

If you find a Henry Wragg in your family tree, born Sheffield 1835, who married Sarah Elston born Sheffield 1836 (in 1881 they lived at 130 Martin Street, Sheffield and their children, that I know of, were Sarah, Annie, Kate, Charlotte, Thomas and Joseph born between 1861 and 1878 ).  I have some fascinating family history documents relating to their family and the Sheffield Flood.

Let me know if you find a connection. 

Regards, Helen.