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I am looking for any information for Clare Williams born 1893. Her father was a mining Engineer. I think she came from New Port but this is guess work. She married Thomas Benjamin Jones in Herefordshire in 1914. I am not sure where to look. I have pretty much exhausted all my possibilities. I think the name Clare was unusual in 1893. I cannot find anyone with that name, just Clara. Her Wedding cert said Clare so I assume this is her birth name.
If anyone has any ideas please help me solve this problem.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi Joy ;D
What are you looking for - her birth record?
Her father name: Robert WILLIAMS and an Engineer
Her mother: Alice (maiden name? from birth of another oif their children perhaps?)
But from another post and from RC: alcrighton( Allan) you do have her on Cemsus - or have you since discarded this family?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,88827.15.html
1901 Census, Glamorgan, Wales
Ref: RG13/5045 Folio 33 Pages 57 & 58
Address: 7 Chappel Lee?, Llandyfodwg, Nantymoel?, Glamorgan
Robert WILLIAMS, Head, 37, Colliery Engine Driver, b. Glam. Merthyr
Alice WILLIAMS, Wife, 37, b. Glam. Cardiff
Wm. J WILLIAMS, Son, 12, b. Glam. Nantymoel?
Rosalind A WILLIAMS, Dau, 10, b. ditto diito
Clara WILLIAMS, Dau, 8, b. ditto ditto
Elsie S WILLIAMS, Dau, 5, b. Glam. Nanty Moel?
Note that Clare is Clara again - there are no Clare Williams in the 1901 census so it looks as though the name Clare was not common until some years later. I think this indicates that your ancestor's name was probably Clara even if she was known as Clare in the family. Also Roselyn is recorded as Rosalind.
I haven't tried to find Nantymoel or Nanty Moel on the map yet but it appears to be written as one word on page 53 where most of the family is listed and as two words on page 54 as the birthplace of Elsie. It might be worth trying to find the place at www.multimap.com .
This looks like the same family in the 1891 census - before Clare/Clara was born (Living at the same address!):
1891 Cenus, Glamorgan
Ref: RG12/4451 Folio 104 Page 62
Address: 7 Chappel Lee, Llandyfodwg
Robert WILLIAMS, Head, 27, Colliery Engine Driver, b. Glam. Nantymoel
Alice WILLIAMS, Wife, 27, b. ditto ditto
Olive WILLIAMS, Dau, 8, b. ditto ditto
Blodwen WILLIAMS, Dau, 5, b. ditto ditto
W J WILLIAMS, Son, 2, b. ditto ditto
R A WILLIAMS, Dau, 6, , b. ditto ditto
When did Robert & Alice marry?
Is it at all possible Clare/Clara was not his natural daughter but Alice's and therefore her name is registered other than as WILLIAMS.
Cheers
AMBLY
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Hi Joy again
Is this not her BIRTH reg:
Name: Clara WILLIAMS
Mar Qtr 1893
RD: Bridgend
County : Glamorgan
Volume: 11a Page: 792
Nantymoel, Llandyfodwg Glamorgan - the location of the 1891 - 1901 family above, is in the Registration District of Bridgend.
CHeers
AMBLY
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Thanks so much for the info. Yes, I am looking for the birth record so I can get the B Cert
I have no info about the family at all so when Alice Married I haven't a clue.
I shall send for the Birth Cert . As I said Clare, Clara confusing. I only know her by Clare, but maybe Clara became Clare, so I am rather confused. I have not discarded any info, it was lost in a CD which I cannot find.
Again thanks
Joy