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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northamptonshire => Topic started by: rthom on Tuesday 07 November 06 20:57 GMT (UK)
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I would be very interested if anyone has information on THE BOOT INN, located at 12 College Street, Northampton, particularly in the period 1830-1870.
Thanks, rthom
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Directory of Northampton, 1853 (p15)
"Inns and Public Houses"
Boot, Hemmings Sarah, College street
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Thanks Dave. Goodness, that was lightning fast! My G3-grandparents John and Sarah Hemmings were the innkeepers of The Boot from about 1836 to the late 1860s. I was hoping to learn more about the history of the establishment and especially to find out if there is a surviving picture of it.
Regards, rthom
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Hi rthom
There is this website about a person doing old Pubs and Inn's in Northampton, perhaps they may be able to help with a photo. Might be worth a try.
http://www.northants-familytree.net/index.html
ricky
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Thanks, Ricky. That's a great website.
Regards, rthom
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Hi rthom :)
Jon Small is the person in Northampton who has done all the work re: the Pubs and Inns of Northampton Town.
He gave me a copy of his work ( an index of Licenses and Directories listing the occupants) so if you need anything else let me know and I will e-mail it to you.
Cheers Sandy
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Thanks for the info again, Sandy. I am definitely interested in any other information you could send on to me offline (same email address).
Regards, rthom
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HI rthom
I have sent a list from Jon's index for you.
I suppose they will be photographs of the Boot Inn in Old Northampton Books but most will still be under copy-right.
If you still wish I could see if I can find out any more for you in a few days if no one else does sooner.
Sandy
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Many thanks, Sandy. The list has helped to sharpen up the family coordinates in this period. It now appears that the Hemmings family sold The Boot Inn to a Joseph Perkins around 1864 after running it for nearly 30 years.
I would love to see any old pictures of The Boot as this was a central focus of the family for so many years in Northampton. But please don't put yourself to too much trouble.
Regards, rthom
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Hi rthom
I will see if I can find out anything tomorrow also the other 2 inns you mentioned in the e-mail.
I did see the burial for John in 1841 at All Saints in the town aged 49.
Would you like a picture of this Church also ?.
Sandy
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Hi Sandy:
I really appreciate your continued kindness and help. Thanks for the offer, but I do have some pictures of All Saints that I found on line. Quite an unusual design.
Regards, rthom
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Hi rthom
I spent some time at the Northampton Library and found some photographs that I have been assured do not break the copyright rule of the owners so I will send them to you later. Also a copy of Jon Small's Pub Map which I can also send.
I also found some old Fire Insurance Maps that list the numbers of the buildings so although the photographs are not showing the exact image you should be able to make out which one was the property as most are side views.
Also I took some photographs of where the buildings in the streets would have been all those years ago.
Give me a few hours and I will e-mail them to you. Now done. :)
Cheers Sandy
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Hi Sandy:
I am very grateful for your checking up on The Boot Inn at the library. I look forward to seeing what you have found.
Regards, rthom
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Hi rthom
Glad that the information was okay and arrived safely.
Sandy
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Many thanks for the info and pictures, Sandy. I really appreciate your going out of your way to investigate these locations. This really helps to bring everything a little closer.
Regards, rthom
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hi my name is SAM and i live in northampton if you would like any more info on the boot inn i can research it for you at the archives office and main library regards SAM
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hi i can get old pics of allsaints and modern ones as the church is still in the center of town but has had a front add to it for the millennium I'm not sure if the building of the boot inn is still there but i will find out it may be there or it may have gone regards SAM
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i may even be able to get copy's of your grandfarthers burial records and plot in the church and archives
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Hello Sam:
Thanks for the messages and the offer of help. I much appreciate it. I have obtained some info on the location and ownership of The Boot that was kindly obtained by RootsChatter Sandy (see earlier in thread). No actual pictures of the inn have surfaced yet. Also I have found some pictures of All Saints on line; and I do have John Hemmings' burial record (I believe the cemetery is long gone). So please don't go out of your way on my account.
Regards, rthom
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i wont be i live only 3 miles from the town center and have to go there every week to get to recoreds offices
sam
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Hi Rhtom
Thanks for the e-mail.
I will forward the drawing of the Boot Inn that Jon Small has said I can give to you a.s.a.p..
Hope we don't have as much difficulty getting the images down next time if so I will us the 2nd address.
Sandy
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Hi Sandy:
Thanks, yet again. I really look forward to seeing the drawing of The Boot Inn. Please pass on my thanks to Jon Small for his kindness.
If Jon's interests in pubs extend beyond Northampton, please let him know that I do have the Alehouse Recognisance records for the inns the Hemmings family ran earlier in Towcester (The Admiral Nelson, 1826-36), Greens Norton (The Red Lion, 1816-26), and Sulgrave (The Six Bells, 1788-1807).
I do have a question about the Alehouse Recognisance records in Northampton that I'll post in a separate message on the Northants board.
Regards, rthom
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HI rthom
I wondered if you would agree to en-suring that the picture of Jon's is for personal
use by your self only and not to be passed on to anyone else or shown on anyone's web pages.
Cheers Sandy
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Hi Sandy:
I certainly am pleased to agree to restrict the picture to personal ONLY.
Thanks, in anticipation.
Regards, rthom :)
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Okay rthom hope you did not mind me asking on Jon's behalf.
I saw him Saturday briefly and he forgot which pub it was. ;D
Went to deliever Christmas Card to Library staff and it was waiting for me well a
large envelope was put in the air and Terry ( the County Local Study Librarian) said Sandy,
Jon Small left this for you today.
It is like having your own internal mail via the Library. ;D
E-mail in a moment if you P.M. me which one to use. ;D
Sandy
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PM sent. I'll confirm arrival -- fingers crossed the gremlins have something else to do.
rthom
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Hi Sandy:
Many, many thanks for the great picture of The Boot which just arrived safely. I really appreciate your effort in tracking this down and I am also indebted to Jon Small for his generosity in sharing it with me. Please pass on my thanks to him. ;D
It means a lot to me to finally see an image of the pub that was in my family for 30 or so years. Xmas has come early this year!
Best regards, rthom ;D
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Hi rthom
Just found a small piece of paper with the history of the Pub.
Will pass on in a moment.
It must be your lucky day.
Sandy
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Hi rthom
As I said in my e-mail (corrected mis-spelling).
As you so rightly say the thanks is all down to Jon who I just happen to
know. Sandy
Although I have walked along the street many a time when I have been in the Town
I was not aware of the actual premises.
As we all know everyone here helps to the best of their ability.
Merry Christmas. :) :) :)
Sandy
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Hi Sandy:
I just wanted you to know that the family was very excited to see the latest revelations on The Boot Inn. Kind of puts a face to a name! Can't thank you enough.
Merry Xmas to you too. ;D ;D ;D
Regards, rthom
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Hi rthom :)
Thank you for your Christmas Wishes of your Hemmings Family Card by E-Mail.
It was much appreciated. :)
To all Rootschatters on our forum and yourself.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year for 2007.
Look forward to assisting you with your family histories.
Sandy :)
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:) good news northampton libary hold a list of every on who owend or ran a pub in northampton including the boot inn
sam
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HI Sam
good news northampton libary hold a list of every on who owend or ran a pub in northampton including the boot inn
It is the work of Jon Small who says I may help people with it as he gave me a copy of it on disk and gave me some information to give to rthom.
P.S. If you were in the Library this week with a lady with glasses then I was behind you. :)
Sandy
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Hi Sam:
I appreciate your thinking of me again. Thanks to Sandy's kind help and the generosity of Jon Small, I have found the information I was looking for on The Boot Inn.
Regards, rthom
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HI Sam
good news northampton library hold a list of every on who owned or ran a pub in northampton including the boot inn
P.S. If you were in the Library this week with a lady with glasses then I was behind you. :)
Sandy
no it was the week before on a Monday SAM
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Hi Sam
Well we may meet up yet seeing we use the same places. :)
Rthom I couldn't remember what you asked me about the original drawing that Jon gave me the sketch too.
I saw him yesterday 1st time since Christmas and he gave me his phone number and said to ring him when I know what it was you wanted to know.
Sandy
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Hi Sandy:
Sending you a P.M.
Regards, rthom
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Hi rthom
Thanks for your good wishes much appreciated also.
1st time on for a couple of days.
I am truly sorry that I did not feel I could break the N.R.O. copyright rule by passing
on the photograph of "The Boot Inn".
I know you have it know and are thrilled.
Sandy
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Hi Sandy:
Glad you are feeling better! :)
I fully understand the situation (I think) and absolutely respect your following the copyright rules.
Regards, rthom
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Hi RThom
I have a photo of my great grandfather George Roddis outside the boot inn with his name above the door. At this stage I have no idea what date it was taken.
I am just starting to research my family tree so a real beginner at this, and chat rooms.
If you are interested, I could send you a scanned copy of it.
RPeter
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Hello RPeter:
Thank you for making contact and for injecting some life into this old thread. I appreciate your generous offer of the picture of your great grandfather, George Roddis. I will write to you offline with my contact info.
Best regards,
rthom
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Hello rthom
I got your email address. In fact my great grandfathers name was William Roddis also known as Topper Roddis coz he wore a top hat. I imagine that the photo would have been taken when he took over the pub. I believe he was born in 1818 and he looks to be about 30 years old in the photo so I am guessing the photo was taken approx 1850.
I was hoping somebody might be able to tell me more about him.
I will send the photo scan to your email address.
Regards RPeter
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Thanks, RPeter. Personal message sent.
Following is a listing of the Licensees of The Boot Inn, 12 College Street, Northampton, based on listings in Northampton trade directories [Source: Jon Small, Northampton]:
1824 Charles Duke
1830 William Seaby
1840, 1845 John Hemmings*
1847, 1853, 1854, 1862 Mrs Sarah Hemmings
1864 Joseph Perkins
1866, 1869 Samuel Frisby
1870 F. Frisby
1876, 1878 James Lancaster
1884, 1896 Swinscho Jackson
1898, 1903 William (Topper) Roddis
1904 Mr Farey
1904 Mr Pryor
1905 Mrs (?) Pryor
1906, 1907 (closed) Joseph Charles
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* It is assumed that John Hemmings took over the running of The Boot in 1836.
Best regards, rthom
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Hello, I am excited to have come across this rather old thread as I am researching William Roddis (1841-1903) who was licencee of the Boot Inn, College Street Northampton (1898, 1903 on the list of licencees posted in this thread). I am a genealogy hobbyist currently working to improve William's profile on WikiTree (a free global family tree/genealogy collaboration site) https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Roddis-29 (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Roddis-29). I would be most grateful if you have any photograph's of William or the Boot Inn that I could use on WikiTree (I would of course give appropriate accreditation).
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There is a photo on a group I am in, no copyright noted though.
Maybe someone has a better image. William Roddis has his hands folded in front of him.
Sandy
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Many thanks for the post, Sandy. It has been a while since I was on here, so I was pleased to see this great old picture. You can see the "B" of the The Boot Inn on the wall far right above the P. Phipps & Co signage.
Hope things are well? Take care.
rthom
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Thank you, Sandy! Much appreciated!
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Hi rthom.
You are welcome.
We are fine over here thank you, hopefully the same with yourselves.
Take Care
Sandy
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Welcome to Rootschat Chris Orme. :)
Sandy
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Thank you, Sandy!