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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: Peter Ferreira on Saturday 16 December 06 00:08 GMT (UK)
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Is anybody researching Joseph PHELPS (1731 - 1806) of Shepton Beauchamp, Som.? Joseph was born in 1731, a son of Timothy PHELPS junior and Mary NOTLEY.
In 1757, in Cudworth, Joseph PHELPS of Chillington married Elizabeth ROWSELL of Cudworth. Joseph lived in Shepton Beauchamp, where he was probably a butcher. Joseph and Elizabeth had issue, including:
Mary PHELPS 1760, who married Robert FOWLER in 1781
Thomazin PHELPS 1763, who married William NAISH, farmer, of Seavington St. Mary
Joseph PHELPS 1765, who married Martha DEVENISH and farmed in Combe Florey
Elizabeth PHELPS 1767, who married Ambrose WILLY of Kingsbury
Catherine (Catam) PHELPS 1769, who married Joseph BRAGGE of Ilminster.
William PHELPS c1783, who married Catherine COOMBES and farmed in Cudworth
John PHELPS who married Joan SALISBURY, who lived in Cudworth and, later, in Shepton Beauchamp. He was probably a butcher.
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Hi Peter Ferreira
We are related to the phelps and Notley Family
Joseph Phelps snr m Elizabeth Rowsell
they had a son Joseph Phelps Jnr m Martha Devenish
they had a daughter Anna Phelps married William Perkins then she remarried William Berry they came to Australia on the ship Duke of Roxburgh in 1849.
with their 4 Children Henry James Berry b 8 Jan 1839 m 1863 Mary Eleanor Sullivan b 1841 Ireland, Isabella Berry b 12 Mar 1839m m James William Denton, William Walter Berry b 1842 m Catherine Frances Montgomery & Henrietta Berry b 1847 Joseph Appleby
Linda
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Hi Cousin Linda,
I have just sent you a separate personal message. I suggest that we continue this correspondence by regular w-mail, as it would be much easier to attach files.
Yes, we have a definite connection. I would be very interested to see all that you have on our Phelps clan. Here is some of the information I have on your ancestor Joseph Phelps junior (1765 - 1823) yeoman farmer of Combe Florey, Somerset:
" Joseph Phelps, son of Joseph and Elizabeth Phelps, baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on January 14th., 1765; Joseph was a yeoman farmer in Combe Florey, Somerset; in 1792, at St. Nicholas Hope Independent church, Sydling, Dorset, he married Martha Devenish; Joseph signed his last will on February 2nd., 1821 and a codicil on December 8th., 1821, appointing his brother William Phelps yeoman of Cudworth and friend William Naish, the younger, yeoman of Seavington as executors; Joseph died in Combe Florey on April 16th., 1823; Joseph and Martha had issue:
1. Charlotte Phelps, born about 1793 in Combe Florey; Charlotte married William Chappell in Norton Fitzwarren, Somerset, in 1819;
2. Joseph Phelps, born August 15th. and baptized December 30th., 1795 in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset; Joseph was a yeoman farmer in Combe Florey; he married (1) Mary Hewlett in 1813 in Yeovil; Joseph married (2) Alice about 1820; Joseph and Mary and Alice had issue, in Combe Florey:
3. John Phelps, born about 1797 in Combe Florey; baptized there on June 20th., 1797; he was buried in Combe Florey, on April 27th., 1798 (I.G.I. extracted);
4. Anna Phelps, born about 1799 and christened on April 7th., 1799, in Combe Florey; Anna married (1) William Perkin on July 1st., 1823 in Combe Florey (I.G.I. extracted); she married (2) William Berry on October 31st., 1833, in Creech St. Michael, Somerset, in the presence of Charlotte Chappell; William Berry and Anna emigrated to Australia in 1849; Anna died in Bathurst, NSW, Australia, on September 24th., 1859; William Berry and Anna had 4 children, including:
a. Henry James Berry, baptized as William James Berry in Staple Fitzpaine, Somerset, on January 8th., 1837; on June 9th., 1863, Henry James married Mary Sullivan in Sofala, N.S.W., Australia; Henry died in Portland, N.S.W., on June 20th., 1916; Mary died in Kensington, N.S.W., on February 7th., 1916; they lived in N.S.W., where they had 10 children, including: "
There were also another five known children of Joseph and Martha Phelps.
Best wishes.
Peter Ferreira
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I see from the topic "Joseph Phelps" that Elizabeth Phelps 1767 married Ambrose Willy of Kingsbury. For many years I have been seeking the parents of my ancestor Jephthah Willy. He was married in Kingsbury church in 1783; Ambrose Willy was one of the witnesses. This was actually a double wedding: Jemima Willey was married there on that day; Ambrose again a witness. Was Ambrose the father of Jepthah, and Elizabeth the mother? Were Jephthah and Jemima brother and sister?
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Hi jwfw45,
I've moved your topic to the end of this Joseph PHELPS topic you are referring to. Hope this helps.
Trystan
RootsChat Support
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Hi jwfw45,
Greetings from Toronto, Canada.
I doubt whether my Ambrose Willy could have been the father of your Jephthah Willy, as they appear to have both married in the 1780s. However, they could have been brothers.
Here are my fuller notes on the family history of my Willy branch of cousins:
" E. Elizabeth Phelps, daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Phelps, was baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on May 5th., 1767. On July 23rd., 1787, in Shepton Beauchamp, Elizabeth Phelps of Shepton Beauchamp married Ambrose Willy of Kingsbury, by licence, in the presence of Joseph Phelps and John Robinson. Ambrose and Elizabeth had issue:
1. John Willy, baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on December 30th., 1795; buried there on August 18th., 1797;
2. Robert Willey, son of Ambrose and Elizabeth Willey of Middle Lambrook in the parish and the census district of Kingsbury Episcopi, baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on May 4th., 1802;
3. Elizabeth Willey, daughter of Ambrose and Elizabeth Willey of Middle Lambrook in the parish of Kingsbury Episcopi, baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset , on November 30th., 1803;
[A Thomas Willey was buried in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on May 1st., 1801.]
[An Ambrose Willey 7 was buried in Kingsbury Episcopi on May 28th., 1831.] "
I wish you success in your search for mor details about your Willy family tree.
Peter Ferreira
Toronto, Canada.
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Ambrose Willy was named as a son of Thomas Willy of Middle Lambrook (Kingsbury Episcopi, Somerset) in the 1800 Will of Thomas Willy. Two other sons and seven daughters were also named in the Will.
From the Nov. 21, 1778 Will of Edward England: "Also I give unto my Brother Henry England Stephen and Henry his Sons Thomas Willy of Middle Lambrook Ambrose his Son George Gifford and James Gifford Sons of William Gifford the Sum of one hundred and forty pounds (to be paid six months after Testator's death)(in trust)(for the benefit of such person or persons) as shall be Minister or Ministers of or for the Society of persons under the denomination of Presbyterian or Protestant Dissenters usually assembling for the Worship of God at Middle Lambrook Meeting House in the County of Somerset . . . ." [No punctuation in PCC copy.]
Ambrose Willy made his Will in Norton Fitzwarren Parish in 1810. He was buried in that Parish on May 25, 1810. The Will was admitted to Probate on Oct. 30, 1810. There is a summary of the Will in a tax record. The request for probate was made by Joseph Phelps and John Phelps. Testator's wife was Elizabeth Willy. The "three oldest children" named were Joseph, Thomas and Jane. The "four other children" were John, James, Robert and Elizabeth. [I note that there was a John who died in 1797.]
William Archerd
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Hi William,
Many thanks for your message and new information on my Willy branch in Somerset. You have given me details of four new cousins in that branch. Very much appreciated!
Best wishes.
Peter.
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Hi Peter,
By any chance do you have any information on Ambrose Willy or his Phelps' wife not already posted in this thread? Or on any of their children, not already posted?
Elizabeth (Mrs. Ambrose) Willy married again, in 1815:
* On August 15, 1815 Elizabeth Willy (as she signed but Elizabeth Whilly as put down by the Rector) by licence married William Sweeting in Ilchester Parish, Somerset. The marriage register shows Sweeting of this parish and Elizabeth of South Petherton. Bride and groom signed the register as did witnesses R'd Parfett and Wm Hervey. Minister was Thomas Ebrey, Rector.
* On June 4, 1817 William Sweeting of Bicknoller Parish, Somerset, was buried, age 51 [1766]. I am not sure this is the same William as in the marriage record.
* Burial record from Shepton Beauchamp Parish: Eliza'th Sweeting, abode Compton Durvill, buried June 28, 1826, age 59.
Bill Archerd
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Hi Bill,
Greetings from Toronto, Canada.
I have an extensive PHELPS family tree, as Joseph Phelps was an ancestor of mine; it includes more than about 150 Phelps descendants. I am not descended from the Willy family and have only researched the Willy branch within my Phelps tree.
In case anybody out there is interested in the Willy / Phelps branch that we have improved upon, here is my update of it:
E. Elizabeth Phelps, daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Phelps, was baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on May 5th., 1767. On July 23rd., 1787, in Shepton Beauchamp, Elizabeth Phelps of Shepton Beauchamp married Ambrose Willy of Kingsbury, by licence, in the presence of Joseph Phelps and John Robinson. Ambrose signed his will in Norton Fitzwarren parish, in 1810; he was buried in that parish on May 25th., 1810. Ambrose and Elizabeth had issue:
1. Joseph Willy,
2. Thomas Willy, buried in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on May 1st., 1801.
3. Jane Willy,
4. John Willy, baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on December 30th., 1795; buried there on August 18th., 1797;
5. James Willy,
6. Robert Willey, son of Ambrose and Elizabeth Willey of Middle Lambrook in the parish and the census district of Kingsbury Episcopi, baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on May 4th., 1802;
7. Elizabeth Willey, daughter of Ambrose and Elizabeth Willey of Middle Lambrook in the parish of Kingsbury Episcopi, baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset , on November 30th., 1803.
[An Ambrose Willey 7 was buried in Kingsbury Episcopi on May 28th., 1831.]
Best wishes.
Peter.
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Peter, your Elizabeth Phelps married my Ambrose Willy, as we have discussed. In case I have not sent you the summary of Ambrose's 1810 Will (from the estate duty files), here it is:
Ambrose Willy made a Will in Norton Fitzwarren and he died in Norton Fitzwarren and was buried there on May 25,1810 (no age at death given). The Will is summarized by a tax record, as follows: 1810 Archdeacon's Court of Taunton (UK National Archives' reference IR 26/293/123):
*Date of Probate and Sum sworn: October 30, Under 1500 L, case #409.
*Name and Description of Testator or Testatrix: Ambrose Willy of Nortonfitzwarren, yeoman; two numbers in this column: 91011121314 and 166124.
*Name and Place of Abode of Executor or Executrix: P. 3 May 1824, Joseph Phelps of Combeflorey and John Phelps of Sheptonbeauchamp in the County of Somerset and Testators wife Elizabeth Willy, moved by said Joseph Phelps and John Phelps.
*Name of the Legatees, distinguishing the Residuary Legatee: NFP 10 Sept 1824 said Joseph Phelps John Phelps and said Elizabeth Willy.
*Particulars of the several Specific Legacies, Bequests in Trust - and of the Residue: All Testators Lands and personal Estate In Trust to apply the rents and profits to be made thereby and any advantage to be made therefrom in the maintenance of the Testators Wife and the maintenance clothing and education of his children respectively until the three oldest of such children should attain the age of 28 years namely Joseph Thomas and Jane when they should receive the Sums of L150 each as they should respectively attain that age to be raised and paid by his Trustees by sale or mortgage of his Messuages Tenements Lands Heraditaments and Premises or from the conversions of the personal Estate and from thenceforth to stand possessed of the remaining part thereof In Trust to apply the rents and profits thereof and any advantage to be made therefrom in the maintenance of the Testators Wife and the maintenance clothing and education of his four other children namely John James Robert and Elizabeth until the youngest of them shall attain the age of 21 years and then in trust by sale of the Testators messuages lands tenements heraditaments and premises and the conversion of the personal estate as aforesaid to pay his Wife and children respectively the sum of one hundred and fifty pounds each and In Trust to pay the surplus monies remaining in any to his said wife and all his said children respectively share and share alike and in case any or either of his said children should be under the age of 21 years unmarried and without issue of his her or their body or bodies then he gave the share or shares of him her or them so dying unto the Survivors or Survivor of them his said children and the issue of such of them as might be dead such issue to take the proportion which their respective parents if living would have been entitled unto.
It is interesting that there is a son John alive in 1810. We know there was an earlier John who died, as you have noted. There is a good probability that second John was the John Willy transported to Tasmania in 1841 (one of his children resided in 1851 in South Petherton with John's sister Jane, also mentioned in the 1810 Will).