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Title: !881 census lookup please
Post by: tropicalj on Thursday 21 December 06 10:02 GMT (UK)
Hello  there  from  the land  down  under

now  looking  for  information  on  AGNES BELL  born  1875

in Jedburgh, Roxbrgh

parents are David Bell and Margaret Riddelle

any  help  would  be greatfully appreciated

thanks  and  Merry Christmas  to all

Jenn
Title: Re: !881 census lookup please
Post by: RJ_Paton on Thursday 21 December 06 12:05 GMT (UK)
There is a 6 yr old Agnes Bell born in Roxburgh living with her uncle William Smith in the village of denholm

Village Of Denholm
Census Place:   Cavers, Roxburgh, Scotland
   
Head :William SMITH   age 33 born Cavers, Roxburgh
Occupation :   Master Baker employing 1 apprentice

Wife: Ann SMITH   age36,born Minto, Roxburgh
   
Also in the household are
Step son :James RIDDELL (SMITH)   age14,born Ancrum, Roxburgh
Occupation:   Baker's Apprentice

Neice :Agnes BELL,age 6,born Ancrum, Roxburgh a scholar
   
Servant : Ann GORDON   age 16,born Belmaduthy, Ross and Cromarty

Source:   FHL Film 0224039     GRO Ref    Volume 785    EnumDist 1    Page 19
   

Title: Re: !881 census lookup please
Post by: tropicalj on Thursday 21 December 06 12:10 GMT (UK)
hello  there


aahhhhhhhh,  many  thanks

now  on  her wedding  certificate  the  witness is one Ann SMITH  and on  the electoral  role  in sydney nsw  she  is  living  care of Smith

so  now  I  wonder  is  the  stepson  ann smith  son  and  was she a  riddell??

also  are  her parents  on  the census  that  you  can  tell

can  you  please tell  me  if  you  have access  are  they  one the  1891 census

regards jenn
Title: Re: !881 census lookup please
Post by: RJ_Paton on Thursday 21 December 06 12:12 GMT (UK)
There is a family living at 1 Mid Row in Hawick in the 1881 with Margaret Bell age 49 a widow as the head of the household with children
David BELL,22   
Mary BELL,20   
William BELL,19
Helen BELL,19
John BELL,15
Maggie BELL,14
Alexander BELL,11
James BELL,7
Williamina BELL,5
Joan BELL,4

There does not appear to be any other david/margaret pairings in Roxburgh
Title: Re: !881 census lookup please
Post by: tropicalj on Thursday 21 December 06 12:18 GMT (UK)
hello  there

do  you  have  any  details  for  the  1871 census

thanks  for  these  I  do apreciate  it

regards jenn
Title: Re: !881 census lookup please
Post by: RJ_Paton on Thursday 21 December 06 12:26 GMT (UK)
The family listed at 1 mid Row Hawick would appear to be the children of a John and Margaret Bell as they can be traced on the 1871.

I've checked a few entries on Scotland's People without any success either in 1871 or 1891.
Title: Re: !881 census lookup please
Post by: tropicalj on Thursday 21 December 06 12:31 GMT (UK)
hello  there 
thanks  very  much  for  your  help

now  I  am  wondering  just  who  cam  to  oz

does  James  Riddell   apear  on  the  1871 cenus  with  the Smiths  may  I ask of  you  please

jenn
Title: Re: !881 census lookup please
Post by: RJ_Paton on Thursday 21 December 06 12:46 GMT (UK)
In the 1871 William Smith is unmarried and living with his parents (John Smith is also a Master baker)
Title: Re: !881 census lookup please
Post by: RJ_Paton on Thursday 21 December 06 12:55 GMT (UK)
There is a 4 yr old James Riddell listed in the 1871 but he is listed as the son of the head of the household John Riddell and his wife Agnes .... they have a 28 yr old unmarried daughter Ann Riddell ..... the places of birth appear to match those given in the 1881 census transcripts.

I wonder if it is possible that James was illegitimate and the son of the 28 yr old Ann and on her subsequent marriage to Mr Smith,the Baker, her son went with her ?
Title: Re: !881 census lookup please
Post by: tropicalj on Friday 22 December 06 07:56 GMT (UK)
many thanks for all  you  have done Falkryn

it  is  much appreciated

regard to  you  jenn ;)
Title: Re: !881 census lookup please
Post by: trish251 on Sunday 31 December 06 04:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Jenn

Have you looked at the civil registers on the IGI. There is a marriage for Ann Riddle
ANN RIDDLE  M  WILLIAM SMITH   Marriage:  07 DEC 1875   Ancrum, Roxburgh

but I can't find an appropriate birth for James - with mother Ann or with parents John and Agnes. He should be there somewhere?

Trish
 
Title: Re: !881 census lookup please
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 08 January 07 02:45 GMT (UK)
hello  there Trisha

thanks  for  that  marriage detail

it all helps  still  having  no  joy  in  finding william  reeves  birth  or  where he  entered oz  only  thing  has been  his  mariage to agnes  bell or  her entry  into  oz  with  her aunt and  uncle  william and ann smith  courtesy  of  your good  self  and  his  6 children  born  in  nsw

regards jenn