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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Glamorganshire => Wales => Glamorganshire Resources & Offers => Topic started by: halfasheep on Friday 29 December 06 16:30 GMT (UK)
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Hello all - this is my project for New Years (and most of 2008 too I suspect)
I have loads of relatives buried in St Cynwyds Church and Maesteg Cemetary, but getting hold of the burial records in Llan is a nightmare, and Maesteg you can only do during a work day (assuming you can find the staff).
I'm planning to either take my digital camera and photograph all the graves, or at least start transcribing them - Obviously this is going to be an enormous task, but I hope to put out some sort of alphabetised booklet of burials - not going to include the plot numbers as this will be big enough as it is.
I'm going to start with any of the smaller churches (Welsh Baptist, etc), and am willing to post them out to whoever wants them - I'm not internet ready in the house, only work, so I may knock up CD Roms for sale - let me know how interested you are, and I'll see how quickly I can get this together (be warned I am still doing my house up at the same time!
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Hi Halfasheep
It sounds a great project, but i would recommend contacting The Ogre to see how far his project has got - might save you two duplicating effort? The ogre is sadly deceased
kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Ah - didn't realise someone else was up to this mammoth task as well - thanks, will contact Ogre then
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Have you tried Glamorgan family history society - i believe they have a CD of Llangynwyd church grave inscriptions and various booklets on some of the smaller chapels in the area.
I also remember reading in their quarterly journal that they were attempting to start a project with regard to cemetery records including Maesteg. They may have a project you can assist with.
Let me know how you get on as this area is of particular interest to me also, my free time is limited due to work commitments but I would be willing to help if possible.
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It sounds as though some great cooperation could come out of your suggestion Sheepy! Thanks for your pointers Welshjo.
Please let us know how you get on, Sheepy. It would be interesting to know what projects are ongoing and needing volunteers, in case others are able to volunteer - perhaps you could let us know?
kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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I do believe that there is a booklet or CD, but there are a lot of new graves up there now (some of my relatives included) to replace wooden crosses or just plain unmarked graves (in my family's case).
Not sure if they have photo's of the graves though - I may also have access to the FULL burial records for Llangynwyd through a relatives father-in-law who has got the whole lot on a CD (his own work) which includes plot numbers, addresses of the deceased, etc - I'm working on getting a copy, so at least that would help some people.
I'd like to get photo's of all the graves anyway - there's so many people willing to help on here, it would be nice to be able to give some back - plus I'm sure the GFHS would appreciate copies of anything I do.
Thanks for the offer of help - I'm going to try and start organising my time and what needs to be done this week (back in work and going away for a fortnight in February), so will probably really start on this in March. I'm hoping to also get maps sorted of the cemetaries marking the relevant locations of graves - lets face it, it's one thing knowing the grave is there, but another trying to find it!
In reply to Arranroots, The Ogre hasn't got Maestg (and area) listed on the website - don't know whether it's in the pipeline, but I got a message un-deliverable back from the e-mail I sent??
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In reply to Arranroots, The Ogre hasn't got Maestg (and area) listed on the website - don't know whether it's in the pipeline, but I got a message un-deliverable back from the e-mail I sent??
What a shame! I don't know him personally, but perhaps others do - please reply here! I have a feeling he has been on RC at some stage, but might be quite wrong about that.
Edit: here he is! Try a PM? http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14847
A ;)
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Cheers - have PM'd them now - going to blow the dust off my digital camera - have printed maps of the cemetaires from google local and will blow them up a bit and go from there!
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UPDATE
have managed to spend a few very windswept and wet Saturday mornings tramping in Llan cemetary - didn't realise what a huge task this would be, and lets face it, it's a hell of a lot smaller than Maesteg Cemetary (although not as well set out).
Have currently mapped the locations of half the graves and memorials in the new half, but the wind and rain has meant transcribing has had to take a back seat for the moment.
Am going away for a fortnight soon, so work will continue towards the end of February
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Hello Halfasheep
How are you getting on with the Llan graveyard
Gareth
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Incredibly slowly! Not fully realising the scale of this project, I may have severly underestimated the time required do undertake this huge task.
I've decided to do Maesteg first as GFHS have already covered the majority of Llan cemetery (albeit there are a few new internments and memorials popping up there).
It doesn't look like a lot of work, but it definately is! I have the majority of the work in notebooks at the moment - once I have started putting them into a computer spreadsheet, I'll let you all know.
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Hello Halfasheep
What exactly are you doing. Transcribing or taking photos of the graves.
Gareth
From a sunny Maesteg
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Transcribing, and creating a map showing where each grave is (yes this is going to be a lot of fun!).
I was going to do photo's, but I think I'll do them on a request basis only until I've finished the transcribing. I am hoping to eventually have burial dates, etc, as well
Luckily, the gravediggers/council workers there are VERY helpful, and so long as you know the year that someone died, they will look up the plot number, the date of burial, and they also have the last known address of the deceased too. Sadly, they're only there during the working week, so this will take some time to get burial dates, etc, off them (although it beats the £30 fee the council charge if you ring the offices!)
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Hello Halfasheep
Both transcribed I did a rough map of Maesteg for GFH, not too sure if they used it.
No photos of the graves.
Gareth
From a sunny Maesteg
P.S. morgangareth 36 At yahoo co uk
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Hello Halfasheep
What ancesters are you looking for.
Gareth
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I didn't realise that Maesteg Cemetery had been transcribed? I knew Llan had - wish I knew sooner (not that I didn't enjoy tramping up and down the rows of graves with a notepad looking quite insane).
Think I found just about everyone I was looking for, but suspect a few of them are in unmarked graves as I know they're not in Llan - still looking for deaths in the records to try and locate the plots - not easy when you know that they were still alive in 1901, but no idea after that!
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Hello Halfasheep
Give me some names. I will see what I can do.
Gareth
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Lovely - in work at the moment, all my stuff is in the house, so will have to find the names - only two of them, both Buckley, I would have thought that they had died before 1940 (given approx DOB's), but after 1901. I haven't found the grave yet, so I suspect it may be unmarked
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I have a death of a William Morgan who died in Maesteg 12th June 1891. Would it please be possible to see if he was buried in Maesteg burial ground . Willam would be about 52 yrs old when he died. Thankyou.. Eirwen
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Hello Eirwen
Do you have any more information on your William Morgan
Gareth
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Only that he died in Maesteg Row which Bridgend Register office informed me was in Maesteg. Also that the death was registered by his brother George. Not a lot to go on but afraid all I have. Eirwen
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Hello Eirwen
Did you get my reply
Gareth
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Hi Gareth Afraid no reply received. Eirwen
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Hello Eirwen
No trace of your man in the burial records. I will have to recheck what I have. This looks like your family in 1891.
Gareth
Surname Name Age Birth Yr Occupation Born
Morgan William 46 1845 Lab in Coal Mines Abadare
Morgan Elizabeth 42 1849 Abadare
Morgan Thomas 16 1875 Collier Coal M Abadare
Morgan Samuel 15 1876 Collier Coal M Abadare
Morgan Henry 13 1878 Tin Worker Abadare
Morgan Maria 11 1880 Scholar Stockton on Tees
Morgan David 10 1881 Scholar Abadare
Morgan Margaret 7 1884 Scholar Abadare
Morgan Edith 3 1888 Maesteg
Morgan William 2 1889 Maesteg
3 Brick Rw; Maesteg
RG12/4450 Folio 53 Page 28
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Hi Gareth I have now received a newspaper obituary for the William Morgan who died in June 1891 . The obituary says he was a harpist. Looks like the family you discovered is not mine. Can you inform me did a harpist travel around Wales , playing in different locations and maybe staying in Inns or boarding houses.
Any ideas on this, maybe William just happened to be in the area when he died and then taken back to his own home for burial. Just thinking of alternatives. Eirwen.
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Hello Eirwen
The only William Morgan I know that has a Maesteg conection (not the town) and a Harpist
Gareth
http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.wales.gla.general/1798.1/mb.ashx
Re: william morgan "harpist"
debbie (View posts) Posted: 12 Aug 2003 1:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames:
Alun,
My g grandmother had a cousin called William Morgan who won the harp competition at the World Fair in Chicago in 1898. Is this your William Morgan?
Debbie.
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Hi Gareth Thank you for the information will check the lead out. Eirwen
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Now, I know this is an ancient post, but it's always worth asking!
I am looking for two people I believe to be buried in Maesteg Cemetery:
Elizabeth Davies, died November 17th, 1925, of John Street, Maesteg.
Eliza Mary Williams, died August 2nd, 1895, of Nantyffyllon Cottages, Maesteg.
And, as an extra long shot - Samuel Davies, died between 1901 and 1911 (born 1853) of 51 High St, Llangynwyd.
Many thanks,
Caroline.
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Hello Caroline
At Maesteg Cemetary
ELIZABETH DAVIES, aged 77, buried 21 NOV 1925. Also in same grave
JOHN ALFRED DAVIES, aged33, buried 18 SEP 1899 (41, John Street) Batchelor
Eliza Mary Williams, died August 2nd, 1895, of Nantyffyllon Cottages
As for Samuel I had to look up the 1901 Census and searched for Caroline
Caroline Davies 65 April 11 1921
Samuel Davies 56 Aug 7 1909
Robert Isaac Davies 14 mths Dec 15 1896
Samuel Davies 15 mths Dec 10 1892
Elizabeth Jane Davies 75 June 1 1968
John Davies 86 Nov 21 1962
Margaret Mary Davies 27 Jan 16 1924
Regards
Gareth
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Oh my goodness, thank you so much.
I always wondered what happened to John Alfred - he was Eliza Mary William's brother. They were orphaned as small children and every member of their family died so young.
And the whole Davies family - that's another treasure.
I'm planning a visit to Maesteg later in the year so will be able to visit the grave and tidy up if necessary.
I really appreciate your help, difficult to do this when I'm in New Zealand.
Best regards,
Caroline.
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Sorry I know this is an old post but i'm hoping the offer of help still stands and someone can help my locate a grave in maestag , get burial info and if poss. a photo of the stone.
looking for the stone of:
Henry Thomas b.1889 died 6/3/1972 of picton place, nanty. buried in maestag
should be buried in same grave as wife: Margaret Ann Thomas , think she died in 1961 or 1962
also a son in same grave : a Tom or Thomas Thomas, sorry no other details on this chap other than he died young somewhere between 1915 - 1932, (one of reasons we wanted grave details as only just found out this chap existed)
any help much appreciated
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Hi - If the offer is still active after so many years, could I put in a plea for a couple of lookups, please? CHARD in Llangynwyd.
I am expecting the burial of Robert Carter CHARD d1873 in Llangynwyd. Also, Jane CHARD d1875 in Llangynwyd area. Thinking that she is buried in St Cynwyd Church's cemetery.
If any other CHARD names arise from this request, then those will likely provide more leads.
This request comes from Australia, and I cannot see me travelling there any time soon, although it would be very pleasant, I am sure.
I am very grateful that people have taken the time to apply themselves to such an endeavour. Rain and wind was mentioned earlier in this thread, and that must have been quite a trying day.
I am sure that I must have family buried in Maesteg (different surnames), but I need to consult my FH research for this.
Abundant thanks, Eggd.
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Here's another request - on behalf of someone else...
Thomas ‘Tommy’ Ivor Loveland born 24th August 1897
Died February 9th, 1976.
May be buried near his his mother Elizabeth Loveland who died in 1938.
Many thanks, if this is possible.
Caroline.