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Help with the Wayland's of Rochford would be much appreciated. I can't say the name of the parents, but there were at least 2 sons: Arthur & Percy, b 1886, 87 respectively.
Thanks :) Lyn
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Part of Myhills Farm House, Rayleigh, Eastwood, Essex
John Cockley Head Widr 77 Stockman on FArm (Ag Cattle) Essex Barling
Ann Wayland daur Wid 41 Charwoman Essex Thundersley
Arthur Wayland G.son S 14 Stockman on Farm " Eastwood
Percy Wayland G.son S 13 Yardman on FArm " "
RG13/1676; Folio: 76; Page: 4
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1891 Hicks Cottage, Eastwood, Essex
John Cockley Head Widower 66 Agricultural Labourer Hockley Essex
Phoebe A Wayland daughter Widow 30 Housekeeper Domestic Thundersley Essex
Arthur P Wayland Grandson 4 Scholar Eastwood Essex
Percy G Wayland Grandson 3 " "
RG12/1390; Folio 119; Page 4
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Phoebe Ann Cockley married Joseph Wayland December qtr 1885 Rochford Essex 4a 505
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Hey Mary Ann
You little beauty. Thank you so much :-* Lyn
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You'll obviously need to get the marriage cert to find out the age of Joseph and his father's name, but I might be able to take you a bit further with the Cockleys
1871 Cottage, Eastwood, Essex
John Cockley Head Widr 46 Ag Lab Barling Essex
Mary daur Unm 21 Prittlewell "
JOhn Son Unm 19 Ag Lab Eastwood "
Susan daur 13 Scholar Thundersley "
Ann daur 11 " " "
Everline " 8 " " "
RG10/ 1667; Folio: 135; Page: 18
1861 - at last a mother!
Dows Heath Road, Thundersley, Essex
John Cockley Head M 38 Ag Lab Barlam Essex
Mary Wife M 36 " Wife Prittlewell "
Mary A daur 11 Scholar " "
John Son 9 " Eastwood "
Elizabeth daur 3 " Thundersley "
Ann daur 10 months Ag Lab's daur " "
RG9/ 1083; Folio: 65; Page: 20
1851 Eastwood, Essex
John Cockley Head M 27 Labourer Barling Essex
Mary Ann Wife M 19 Prittlewell "
Mary Ann daur 1 " "
HO107/ 1777; Folio: 72; Page: 1
You are going to need the father before you know which of the two are yours I think from 1841
Rayleigh, Eastwood, Essex
All born in County
Thomas Cockley 40 Ag Lab
Sarah 40
John 15
Thomas 10
Henry 8
Emma 4
HO107/337/4 19/4
or Rayleigh, Essex
All born in County
John Cockley 50 Ag Lab
Elizabeth 50
John 15
Sarah 13
Eliza 10
Eliza 6
HO107/337/16 4/3
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Once again Mary Ann, thank you very very much for the information. You have been a great help. ;D Lyn
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Hi,
These posts are all pretty old, but I am hoping that some of the people are still active on this chat. I have an interest in the Cockleys, being descended from Thomas Cockley, born circa 1793, and Sarah Unknown, born circa 1797. This is through their son Henry, born circa 1833 in Eastwood, who married Charlotte Kemp.
Thanks,
Achra
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Henry was baptised in Eastwood on 12.08.1833, the same day as his brother Thomas, who is recorded in the census as being 2 years older than Henry.
A William (same parents) was baptised 22.04.1826
John baptised 27.11.1823 in Barling
Thomas baptised 22.12.1820 in Barling
Sarah baptised 16.04.1820 in Little Wakering
And a Mary buried 17.02.1823 in Barling aged 10 weeks(no parents named)
I can not find a marriage for Thomas and Sarah, but these earlier births, not recorded as living with parents in later census, explain then apparent late age at which Thomas and Sarah started to have children.
Mark
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Hi Mark,
Thank you. I did not have all of these baptisms. The following are the ones I had, sent to me by another researcher so not verified.
Baptisms, Eastwood
William, son of Thomas and Sarah Cockley, abode Eastwood, labourer, April 2nd, 1826
Eliza, daur of Thomas and Sarah Cockley, abode Eastwood, labourer, March 22nd 1835
Emma, daur of Thomas and Sarah Cockley, abode Eastwood, labourer, June 4th 1837
I had questioned the birthplace of John as it didn't match those that I had, being Barling instead of Eastwood. Does it state the parents on the source that you have? You did say, "same parents', so I assume so. There was another John Cockley born around the same time and I had begun to question whether the information I had for John Cockley's marriage and children was correct. The birthplace of Barling would prove that it was.
I also have the following baptisms and burials:
Baptisms, Eastwood - possibly children of John, bap 1823, and Mary Ann Anstee.
John, son of Mary and John Cockley, labourer, January 4th 1855
William Thomas, son of Mary and John Cockley, labourer, October 7th 1855
Burials, Eastwood
Thomas Cockley, Eastwood, September 10th 1826, aged 7.
William Cockley, Eastwood, July 2nd 1827 aged 15 months
Mary Cockley, Eastwood, March 2nd 1828 aged 3 months
Thomas Cockley, aged 62, March 9th 1855
William Thomas Cockley, aged 2, September 1st 1857
Henry Cockley (1833) married Charlotte Kemp on 5th Oct 1867 in Rochford. Charlotte had two illegitimate children, Eliza, born c 1854, for whom I cannot find the birth as yet, and Frederick Walter, as follows:
Essex Records Office, August 2014
Rochford Baptisms St. Andrew
October 28th 1855
Image 30 Page 33 Entry 419
Frederick Walter, son of Charlotte Kemp, Rochford, single woman, servant
Henry and Charlotte had one daughter, Catherine Jane, born 4th Dec 1870 in Rochford. Catherine Jane married 1.Fred Brazier, born 11 Apr 1870 in Basildon, son of Joseph Walter Brazier and Jane Aves. 2. Frederick Thurley, born 28th Nov 1866 in Beauchamp Roding to James Thurley and Mary Ann Stone.
Thank you for your reply. I am more than willing to share any information that I have. I don't live in the UK so don't have ready access to the records. I did visit the Essex Records Office a few years ago and found it to be a goldmine of sourced information:)
Achra
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Morning
Most of my information has come from the Essex Records Office online service https://secureweb1.essexcc.gov.uk/SeaxPAM/subscriptionservice.aspx which is a subscription service but has most of Essex parish records going back to the 1500s.
I can confirm the early Eastwood baptisms of Thomas and Sarah's children. The baptisms I gave you yesterday were all from the parish registers.
I can also confirm the Eastwood burials
Eliza Kemp was born in the 1st quarter of 1854 in Chelmsford registration district, this covers about 60 different parishes.
I appear to have found the marriage of Thomas and Sarah. 08.08.1819 in Hawkwell, Sarah's maiden name was Bilbow. I have found no record of theirs births.
Mark
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Hi Mark,
Thank you very much for the information and confirmation:) Yesterday I checked out the online service but it is a bit pricey for me right now. I am considering it, though.
It's great that you have found the marriage of Thomas and Sarah. Was that also at the Essex Records Office online?
Eliza Kemp's mother Charlotte was born in Sutton to Joseph Kemp and Sarah Laysell in 1831. Eliza's brother Frederick Walter was born in Rochford in 1855, so a parish in the Chelmsford district close to Rochford might be a possibility. Without looking that up, I'm not sure which parishes that could be. I'll check. Charlotte was living in Rochford in both the 1851 and 1861 census. Eliza was not in the 1861 with her mother and grandmother.
If you can think of any information you want from me about Henry Cockley's line just ask.
Achra
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Why do you think she had a daughter Eliza? The Eliza Kemp born 1854 was born to married parents so cannot have been Charlotte's child.
Mark
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Hi Mark,
You have caught me out there - Eliza was from a time before I started noting my sources, so I don't know where she came from! I also lost some info in my old genealogy program, Family Tree Maker. I am now using Reunion for Mac.
Given that Eliza's birth was between 1851 and 1861 Census, I think that I must have got the information from another researcher many years ago. I have looked at the parish records at the Essex Records Office and found Frederick Walter, as I indicated in an earlier post, but not Eliza.
Thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow!!
Achra
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Thomas cockley married Sarah bilbow at hawkwell 8/8/1819 by banns. Marriages at this time had no parents recorded. It says both single and of the parish. Both made their mark.
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Thanks, that is a double confirmation of the marriage:)
Achra
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Oops. Didn't read that from mark! Didn't find a birth for Sarah in Eastwood or hawkwell though.
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Thomas Cockley baptised St Nicholas, Rawreth 17.05.1795, parents John and Elizabeth.
A John Cockley (same parents) baptised St Peter and St Paul, Hockley, 18.03.1792
Mark
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Thanks again, Mark.
Rawreth makes sense, as Thomas stated in 1851 that he was born in Beeches Common, just about 1 mile down the road according to the map I looked at.
Achra
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Hi, I'm not sure if this thread is still in use?
I am a descendent of Thomas Cockley and Sarah Bilbow, and was having a look at the pair today.
I came across this information for a 'Sarah Bilbor' which would also match for the census information I have for her 1851-1871 census records. Parents stated as mary and bengt?
I think this could be a strong possibility (if it's not already been mentioned)
Thanks
(Copied from ancestry)
Name Sarah Bilbor
Gender Female
Baptism Date12 Oct 1800
Baptism PlaceLittle Wakering, St Mary The Virgin, Essex, England
Father Bengt Bilbor
MotherMary Bilbor
Source DescriptionRegister of Baptisms and Burials; Service of Church: Registers of Baptisms, Marriages and Burials; Incumbent; Little Wakering, St Mary the Virgin; Parish Records;1792-181
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Re. My previous post. The only marriage I've found is a Benjamin Belbow to a Mary Scarborough in Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London,England in 1789. I can't seem to find any other siblings of Sarah though if that is the case, unless they were not always situated in the Wakering, Essex area
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Hi,
Yes, seems like this thread is still active - I got email notification about your post. I haven't checked it for a long time, though.
I haven't got any farther back with Sarah Bilbow. The baptism you found is a possibility if the family moved to Essex from London. I will try to follow this. I have Find My Past and there is nothing there. Can you see the actual image on Ancestry, not just the transcription?
Achra
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Thanks for your reply! Unfortunately know there is no image just the transcription, I did also find a baptisms in Little Wakering for a Mary Bilbor too. The mother is listed as Mary, but the father listed as Amy in 1803. I've had a look for records of a Mary Bilbow marrying, but have not found any deaths, marriages, census records etc
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Hi,
Some Essex records are on Family Search but unindexed, so I will check there to see if there are any Little Wakering records. It is difficult going through the images but worth it if you find something! I will keep you posted.
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Ah yes, I do wish they hadn't of changed the website for family search last year! It seems that the Bilbow/Bilbor/Bilbee family is rare in existence. I had a look at death records for a Benjamin Bilbow death, but the only one I could see died in 1848 born in 1766 and was married to a different lady than Mary which leaves it at a standstill.