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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: Lance Swan on Friday 19 November 04 05:56 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I am looking for info in Mary Duffy beleived to be Mary Olive Duffy. This is what I know. She was born circa 1831 in or around Co. Armargh (parents unknown). She was found guilty of Burgulary 8 Mar 1849 and sentenced to 7 years and housed on the Prison Hulk Anson until she was transported to Van Diemen's Land on the Australasia as a convict. There she went on to marry Henry Clark and became my GGGrandmother.
What I am after is any info connecting to her including DOB and parents.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
thank you
Lance Swan
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Armagh Ancestry hold records on the following which fit your timescale:
DUFFY MARY 1828
DUFFY MARY 1828
DUFFY MARY 1832
DUFFY MARY 1833
DUFFY MARY 1833
DUFFY MARY 1834
DUFFY MARY 1834
DUFFY MARY 1835
DUFFY MARY 1835
DUFFY MARY 1835
DUFFY MARY 1835
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see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,516411.msg4120255.html#msg4120255
Search on Henry Clarke Convict or view my latest posts.
regards
Adrienne
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Henry clark - convict my error
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Hi,
I am afraid that Lance Swan has not been on line since Nov 2004.
Regards
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Hi, Mary Olive Duffy is my 3rd Great Grandmother. She married Henry Clark in 1852 in Tasmania.
Mary was transported to VDL as a convict on the Australasia 1849 as an 18 year old.
Her native place was given as Co Armagh. She was sister to Bernard, Thomas, Margaret and Catherine Duffy.
I have been search for some time for her birth ( possibly 1831) to find her parents, with no luck.
I have searched Ancestry only to find most researchers say her parents are Bernard Duffy born 1771 in Antrim and Margaret O'Neil born 1773. This would have made Margaret 60 when she had Mary.
But Mary Olive is rarely included in the family list on a lot of these family trees.
I also noted another father could be Thomas Duffy born 1801 and mother Catherine FOX born 1806. But this doesn't appear to be as popular but in each case Mary Olive in mentioned.
I'm hopefully someone may be able to help me, as I have no idea how to proceed.
Many thanks Susie Q
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When if the first instance she was called Mary Olive? (I find the middle name 'Olive' a bit suspicious for someone born c1831 in Ireland).
Was she Catholic? if so, have you searched for baptisms for her (and siblings)? and searched for children of the couples you mentioned in order to eliminate them as her parents?
Have you tried tracing the siblings for clues?
If the Duffys were Catholic then many R.C. parish registers are online (free) although not all will go back far enough- https://registers.nli.ie/ (under an individual parish you can click on 'Irish Ancestors' to see if earlier records for that parish are available elsewhere.
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Mary was Catholic. Her indent is here, two pages, images 18 and 19.
https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Digital/CON15-1-6/CON15-1-6P18
Debra :)
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Records say she married a George (can not read second name) in 1851 then in 1852 married Henry Clark?
national archives Ireland found record no: TR 9, P 5(F)
http://www.nationalarchives.ie
went to Australia on the ship Australasia
native place Antrim
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went to Australia on the ship Australasia
native place Antrim
So not the Mary Duffy born in Co Armagh.
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Just to be clear, there were two women named Mary DUFFY on the Australasia. One was tried at Armagh and native to Armagh, single aged 18, the other was tried at Galway and native to Galway, married aged 20. I don't know where the 'Antrim' has come from. That database linked by rathmore also says that the Galway Mary was tried for sheep stealing but her crime was stealing clothes. No idea where they got that from, the Irish prison registers have the same information as the Tasmania records.
Armagh Mary
https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Digital/CON41-1-24/CON41-1-24p59
Galway Mary
https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Digital/CON41-1-24/CON41-1-24p65
The two marriages have both been noted on the record of the Armagh Mary but descendants think that the first marriage to George DREW should have been on the other Mary's record. Geography does suggest that the Armagh Mary was the one who married Henry CLARK in 1852, she was at Swansea and Spring Bay, the other Mary was at Franklin in 1854 which is where the marriage to DREW took place in 1851. It isn't unusual to see the authorities mess up the convict records.
The Armagh Mary was part of a 'gang of thieves' in Armagh. I think she was most likely a girlfriend of one of them rather than being related, but it is probably a good idea to keep their names in mind when looking for her origins.
Her gang members were James HAGAN, Edward HAGAN, William HAGAN, Patrick HAGAN, Lawrence LIND, Alexander (Sandy) REGAN, and James ROWE. They stole from a house, two hams, two pair of boots, knives, forks, clothes, smoothing irons and shoe brushes. Mary stayed outside and they handed the booty to her out the window. She kept the clothes and gave a pair of boots to Margaret DUFFY, presumedly her sister. James McCAULEY and his wife hid the bacon in their house which I think was in Lower English Street.
Mary HAGAN was the boys' mother, an 'old offender' and 'social pest' ;D She was imprisioned not long after for stealing bread.
Patrick HAGAN and Alexander (Sandy) REGAN were tried with Mary and all received 7 years. They both went to Western Australia on the Phoebe Dunbar in 1853.
http://www.perthdps.com/convicts/con-wa10.html
James HAGAN was sent to Tasmania on the London for receiving stolen goods.
https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Digital/CON33-1-101/CON33-1-101p123
https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Digital/CON14-1-42/CON14-1-42P159
https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Digital/CON14-1-42/CON14-1-42P159
The news items are all in the Armagh Guardian which is free to view this weekend on Findmypast.
Debra :)