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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Argyllshire => Topic started by: chill lady on Tuesday 16 January 07 21:20 GMT (UK)
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anyone any info on my family on mull....there was william married to jane black and they had 4 children william ,john,harry and mary sproat...thanks georgina
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Hi Georgina
Welcome to Rootschat :)
Could you give us some dates to help us help you, please.
Regards
Gadget
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my great grandfather william was born in stranraer in 1823,son of thomas and mary sproat..he came to mull about 1851 and married jane black in 1854 in tobermory they had 6 children 3 who died in infancy..mary bucanan sproat born 1859,george black sproat born 1857,william alexander sproat(my grandfather)born 1862 and harry bird sproat born 1877 thankyou georgina
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I have found William's death: 21 October 1912, aged 90, of senile decay. A retired Procurator Fiscal. Strongarbh House, Tobermory. His father was a tailor. His wife, Jane Black, predeceased him. Son William A Sproat was the informant.
Regards
Gadget
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Did a wee Google search on "Strongarbh House" and look what came up:
http://www.tobermory.co.uk/strongarbh/
It gives a history of the house (it's now a guesthouse) and mentions your William. :)
Added: There's also what seems to be a painting of William outside his "new" house.
http://www.tobermory.co.uk/strongarbh/oldhousebig.jpg
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thankyou?does anyone have any info on a dr harry bird sproat...born in tobermory in 1877 aprox..dr in leed...stayed outside leeds..married to margaret...thankyou...georgina
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Hi Georgina
It would probably be best to post a separate request for this info on the Yorkshire (West Riding) board http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,44.0.html
Regards
Gadget
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good place to start
1861 census; pendler's tobermory
william...head...age 35...writer/joint pro fiscal...born stranraer
jane...wife...age 28...born tobermory
george black sproat...son...age 4...born tobermory
mary buchanan donald sproat...dau...age 2
2 servants in household
1851 census; portmore, tobermory
living in lodgings of janet cameron, boarding house keeper..age 57
william...age 25...born stranraer
1841 census; cowan's close, stranraer
thomas...age 50...tailor
mary...age 40
thomas...age 18...app tailor
william...age 16
john b...age 14
jane...age 10
margaret...age 8
robert...age 6
ann b....age 4
peter cappin...age 15...app tailor
all born wigtownshire
happy hunting
Joe
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more info on the sproat family
thomas married mary buchanan 16th april 1822 stranraer
believe that mary was the daughter of john and elizabeth campbell, mary was born 6th sept 1788 leswalt, wigtown
1851 census; south strand street, stanraer
thomas...head...age 62...tailor...born leswalt
mary..wife...age 53...born leswalt
john b...son...age 24...tailor
mary...dau...bonnet maker
jane...dau...age 20...milliner & dressmaker
margaret...dau...age 18...milliner & dressmaker
robert...son...age 16
ann...dau...age 14
alexander...son...age 9
alexander young...brother-in-law...age 36...shoemaker...born stonehouse
all born stranraer unless stated otherwise
i believe that after the census robert married isabella neilson, and young thomas married jessie malcolm, i cannot find young thomas on the 1851 census or 1861.
1861 census; gorbals, glasgow
thomas...age 72...tailor
mary...age 62
john b...age 34...tailor
mary...age 32...dressmaker
jane...age 29....dressmaker
annie b...age 27...dressmaker
margaret s...age 24...dressmaker
alexander d....age 19...commission clerk
all born stranraer
if you know the parents of jane black, i can find her family on the census
Joe
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no doubt you already have this but if not....
flora mclean sproat...born 2/4/1855
george black sproat...born 21/5/1856
thomas sproat...born 21/12/1857
mary sproat...born 12/3/1859
william sproat...born 12/4/1861
john buchanan sproat...14/12/1869
Joe
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cheers joe.....yes this is all i am getting ...but in our local genealogy group website i found harry bird sproat...but no mention of him in scotlands people..which is strange as all the rest of the children are listed...georgina
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Hi Georgina
He's down on SP as Henry Bird Sprat, 1877, Tobermory 549 - 3
Gadget :)
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thankyou ...i will look it up and let them know they have the wrong spelling of our name...georgina
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janes parents were george black and flora maclean...georgina
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Hi Georgina
As you have access to SP, on the 1891
Harry is listed as Harry Bird Sproat, aged 14, St Andrew District, Edinburgh, Midlothian. Ref - District 685/2 ED 95/2 Page 21
Gadget
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Not sure if you have this:
1881 Vol 549 ED 1 Page 1
Strongarbh House, Kilinian and Kilmore, Argyll
William Sproat, 55, Procurator Fiscal, b. Stranraer
Jane, wife, 48, b. Tobermory
George, son, 24, unm, Notary Public, Tobermory
William, son, 19, unm, Appretice writer, Tobermory
John, son, 11, scholar, Tobermory
Harry,son, 4, scholar, Tobermory
Margaret, sister, unm 47, Stranraer
Joana Dewar, niece, 13, scholr, Kingussie
Sarah McGillivray,serv, 24, unm, cook, Creuch, Mull
Kate McInnes, serv, 19, unm, table maid, Kilbranan, Argyll
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thankyou...
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where did you find the the 1881 census for strongarabh as the one from scotlands people does not mention harry...cheers georgina
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Hi Georgina
I've PMed you :)
Gadget
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1841 census; portmore, tobermory
flora..age 35...merchant's wife
flora...age 15
jessie...age 9
jane...age 8
alexander...age 6
margaret...age 4
joanna...age 3
mary...age 1
1851 census, potmore, tobermory
george...head...age 51...gemeral merchant...born fort william
flora...wife...age 47...born kilmore
jessie...dau...age 19
jean...dau...age 17
joanna...dau...age 14
george...son...age 9
lachlan...son...age 7
kenneth...son...age 5
lachlan...nephew...age 22...clerk
margaret mclean...relative...age 37...teamster...born kilmore
all born tobermory unless stated otherwise
alexander was not there so i searched the census for him
1851 census; 23 crawford street, greenock
home of minister john macrae of the free gaelic church
alexander...visitor...age 16...scholar...born tobermory
1861 census; tobermory
flora...head...age 54...merchant's wife
jessie...dau...age 29
alexander...son...age 26...merchant
jenna...dau...age 22
lachlan charles...son...age 18...writer's clerk
kenneth...son...age 15
happy hunting
Joe
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thankyou joe