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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: Darksecretz on Saturday 20 January 07 14:16 GMT (UK)
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hiya
could someone please have a go at getting this picture clean?? it is on the military thread, and ought to be clearer but i cant get it any clearer, to help with identification, any help would be most appreiciated
thank you, this is th link to the mil thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,208124.from1169230849.html#new
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Looked at it, but it's a lost cause as far as I am concerned. Others might not agree
Cheers
Mudge
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Afraid I have to agree with Madge, someones already 'had a go' and the detail has been destroyed. If you have the original photo or a decent copy of it we may be able to help you.
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hiya
thanks for advice, I will post the image as it was sent to me
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Sorry Darksecretz I have tried to enhance the belt and insignia but with little success. I have not bothered at this stage to do anything else because I doubt if I have done anything to help
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having just looked at the cap badge is it not possible that it is a scottish regiment?
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How's this for you?
Mudge
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Indaloman,
I honestly dont have a clue as to regiments etc... I have also posted on mil thread, the link is on this page, someone asked on there for a close up, but I see now, even at a 600 dpi this cannot be possible, I believe she has narrowed the years down somewhat, but nothing really to get the ident...
thank you so much for your time,
mudge that is soo lovely, i can now see his face, I'm sure that Deirdre will be well chuffed, thank you hun,
xx
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Just had a little go Julie
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:) I would like to thank each and every one of you for your efforts in enhancing my g grandfather Henry Nott. I am given to believe through word of mouth that Henry was in the Queens Guard as an engineer. In a phone conversation with my mother (who is 90 and remembers things a bit here and a bit there) said she can remember seeing a photo of Henry with the tall fur hat that they where but she doesn't know what happened to the picture.
The two showing his facial features are terrific Mudge my Mum will be elated. Thank you.
Deirdre
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Had another little go Deirdre. I was just thinking about a boyfriend I had who was in the Scots Guards and I remember the six buttons were the Scots.....the Welsh, Irish and English.......all had a different sequence of buttons........he also wore a bareskin for occasional duties......(oh happy days).
Jean
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Looking at that picture again.......he seems to have an extra button and the Scots were in groups of three then a gap.
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Darlingtonian - Henry Nott was born and raised in Worcestershire Hampton Lovett....so he probably would not be in the Scotish Guards. and I seem to remember someone saying on one of the threads that the Irish Guards didn't come into being early enough so that leaves Welsh and English. My guess would be English but I am no expert as we all know...lol.
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I think my memory's starting to fade as well Omega!!!........lol
I do know that you can tell by the button sequence.......only I can't remember what it is........
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You would think the people in the military section would be able to tell by that then instead of asking for a close up of the hat, colar, or buckle. wouldn't you. OH well ours are not to reason why etc......pmsl.
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You would think the people in the military section would be able to tell by that then instead of asking for a close up of the hat, colar, or buckle. wouldn't you. OH well ours are not to reason why etc......pmsl.
Neither the Irish nor the Welsh Guards existed at this time.
On the discussion re buttons, IF he was in the Guards, the single buttons (rather than in groups) would make him Grenadier Guards. Although I have to say the headgear looks wrong for the Grenadiers to me. As does what we can see of the collar badges.
I'd honestly have to say that the Guards is a red herring in this case. Hence the request for close-ups. If we're talking about 1880s, I could try medal rolls. Grenadier Guards were in Egypt in 1882, so I'll start there.
Neil
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Neil, Did any of them come out here to Australia. I can't find an imigration date or record of any kind and I was wondering if he could have come out with regiment and descided to stay. Is this possible?
Deirdre
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Neil, I'm just going to try and put this photograph I pinched from a website to see what you think
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Hi all,
The chap in the photograph is definitely not a guardsman because of 3 identification features:
1. The collar badges look like stars, if he was a Guardsman, then he would be Coldstream Guards - but the Coldstream Guards wore their buttons in pairs.
2. The tunic - the Guards never wore a 'trefoil' on their cuff. This was a line Regiment dress from 1871 to the early 1880s after which the jam-pot cuff was worn.
3. The Guards never wore a glengarry. They kept a peakless forage cap for the other ranks and a peaked forage cap for the SNCOs.
He looks like a soldier of a Royal Line Regiment with star shaped collar badges.
Hope this helps
Aye
Tom McC
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No...I know that Tom, he's actually 85th Light Infantry around 1880, maybe you can't quite see the bugle on his collar. The man in Deirdre's photograph does have the same trefoil on the cuff and the buttons close up, are the same eight pointed star shape as is the collar badge. This jacket is red and the trousers blue which again could be the same, looking closer at Deirdre's photograph. Some of the Militia companies of the Infantry did seem to wear the cheesecutter type hat and a small 'fur type' for dress.
I'm starting to sound like a 'bit of an expert'...lol.....I know nothing about the forces Tom......I just got carried away trying to find something for Dierdre.
I thought maybe the Sussex Militia or one of the regiments from that area (Duke of Cornwalls, West Somerset).
Jean
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Jean,
I am not on about your post, in fact I didn't even know it was part of the discussion :D
I am on about the picture of the soldier that has been sharpened up. Apologies if the confusion has caused any alarm
Aye
Tom McC