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Title: Fresh eyes please
Post by: BettyofKent on Saturday 10 February 07 16:31 GMT (UK)
Can someone please try & decipher the occupation of Frederick Forster

Betty
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: Pels. on Saturday 10 February 07 16:35 GMT (UK)

Hi Betty,

Would it be possible for you give us the census details for Frederick please?

Kind regards,

Pels
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: Lyn S on Saturday 10 February 07 16:36 GMT (UK)
Could it be '..........and Beer Retailer'?

I'll spend a bit more time on the even more indecipherable part!

Lyn S
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 10 February 07 16:40 GMT (UK)
Lyn

I agree, the last bit is definitely beer retailer, I think!

The first bit at the moment is indecipherable!

Kerry
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: Lyn S on Saturday 10 February 07 16:44 GMT (UK)
I'm clutching at straws here, I think, but on the basis that my suggestion '....and Beer Retailer' is correct, could the first word be 'Vintner'?

I'll work on the second word now.....

Lyn S
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: BettyofKent on Saturday 10 February 07 16:45 GMT (UK)
The census details -
It's Frederick Forster age 32 living in Wittersham, Kent
1871 census  Class: RG10; Piece: 953; Folio: 116; Page: 2;

Many thanks

Betty

In 1888, on his daughter's marriage cert, he is described as 'licensed Victualer'  that is if it's the same person.
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: Lyn S on Saturday 10 February 07 16:45 GMT (UK)
.....should have added 'Vintner' - as in 'Wine-seller'.

Lyn S
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: bervonian on Saturday 10 February 07 17:02 GMT (UK)
Could the first word be Painter or Printer ? The last word 'Detailer' ?
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: Pels. on Saturday 10 February 07 17:06 GMT (UK)



Thanks Betty,

Could it be Painter, Glazier and Beer retailer?  ???

Odd combination I know?
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: skb on Saturday 10 February 07 17:18 GMT (UK)
I'd agree with Pels.

The address is Queens Head - sounds like a pub.

Perhaps he did the Painting and Glaziering as a part time day job and got the Mrs to run the pub when he wasn't there.
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: janan on Saturday 10 February 07 17:19 GMT (UK)
Looks like Painter Glazier and Beer Retailer to me too.
I think publicans often had another job and much of the beer selling would be done by their wife. I have a Cattle dealer and publican and a baker and innkeeper - although the latter doesn't seem quite such a strange combination.
Jan ;)
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 10 February 07 17:20 GMT (UK)
Can't read the Painter, but I certainly agree with Glazier.  Well done Pels, I went cross eyed trying to decipher it!

Jan I have a farmer and beer house keeper too so it's obviously true.

Kerry  ;D
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: janan on Saturday 10 February 07 17:24 GMT (UK)

 I have a farmer and beer house keeper too so it's obviously true.

Kerry  ;D

My baker/innkeeper went on to become a farmer, which always seemed an odd change of direction but maybe there is some affinity I've not thought of :D

Jan ;)
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 10 February 07 17:27 GMT (UK)
I assume because mine lived in the pub with family that he must have rented land from a local farmer which he farmed and as you say his wife must have run the pub.  In fact one of the daughters, in one of the census is described as barmaid so it must have been a family business.

Kerry
Title: Re: Fresh eyes please
Post by: BettyofKent on Saturday 10 February 07 18:12 GMT (UK)
What an odd combination, painting, glazing & keeping a pub  ;D
I think I've found the right family, so thanks to everyone for looking.
It was making me cross-eyed!

Betty