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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Dorset => Topic started by: smithy on Sunday 25 March 07 23:36 BST (UK)
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Edward & Rachel came to Australia from Gillingham with six of their children in 1857. Have located them on the 1841 census at Linterne Cottage,East Stower, Shafetsbury,and have found the births of their children on the I.G.I. I am trying to find Edward & Rachel's parents. Have found a marriage which I believe may be theirs from the Dorset Gillingham opc. which says: 1829 01-Jan Edward Hall of Buckhorn Weston;parental consent & Rachel Hall otp.
Hoping someone may be able to give me some direction as to were to look now.
regards
smithy
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Hi smithy,
There is this one. Rachel Hall Christened 20 May 1798 Gillingham
Parents were Samuel Hall and Mary
FHL Film 1279497
Frances
Many siblings should you think this is your family
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rachel born c 1796 gillingham is in wiltshire in 1851 and is a widow so i dont think that could be her.
did i miss read or was she a hall before she married as well as when she married?
regards
alli
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you say they emigrated in 1857?? therefore they should be in the 1851 cencus unfortunately i cannot seem to find them.that would give us a place of birth for rachel.unfortunately just because a marriage record states of this parish does not necessarily mean she was born there just that she was residing there at the time of her marriage.are you sure they emigrated after 1851?
i see youngest son samuel was baptised in 1845 at east stower dorset.were the baptisms member submitted or from actual registers? if they were member submitted then i can post the actual baptisms from the registers.all the children except edwin seem to be listed
regards
alli
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The marriage in 1829 is between Edward Hall and Rachel Hall.
Samuel and Mary Hall also had a son Edward in 1806, so let's hope they weren't the ones marrying!
(Agewise, Edward is more likely than Rachel - especially as one of the IGI entries suggests he died in Penfield, South Australia in 1877!).
There is a Rachel, b Stockland, Dorset, 1812 (wherever Stockland is).
Richard
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with that in mind-
rachel hall born 6th april 1812 bapt 17th june 1812 stockland dorset.parents thomas hall and mary.
regards
alli
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The marriage in 1829 is between Edward Hall and Rachel Hall.
Samuel and Mary Hall also had a son Edward in 1806, so let's hope they weren't the ones marrying!
(Agewise, Edward is more likely than Rachel - especially as one of the IGI entries suggests he died in Penfield, South Australia in 1877!).
There is a Rachel, b Stockland, Dorset, 1812.
Richard
edward born 1806 and marrying in 1829 would not have required parental consent as was stated at marriage .parental consent meant he was under 21yrs old at time of marriage.as i say the 51 will tell us where the pair came from.so where are they in 1851??
any suggestions anyone?
regards
alli
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If Samuel turns out to be Edward's father, he appears to be living in Gillingham in 1841, aged 90+, with another son, Samuel.
Richard
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Thanks for the replies re.Edward&Rachel,
Frances: the Rachel Hall christened 1798 Gillingham is the one I have,but alli has found another as you can see.
alli: I have since found they arrived in aust. in 1848 on the Westminster and went to South Australia.(Sorry I had the wrong Info.)I'm not sure how I distinguish who Rachel's parents are perhaps the birth you found in 1812 is the one I'm looking for.
Richard: I have tried to do a bit research and have a thought that Edwards parents may be James&Mary Hall (I guess this raises the same question as to who Rachel's parents are!)birth 1806, but then that raises another question if this is him why he would need parental consent when he married Rachel Hall in 1829.
The Samuel aged 90 in the 1841 is not Edward's father, but another Edward actually Samuel is my gggg grandfather.
I don't know if this makes sense I think I am beginning to confuse myself with all these Edwards,Samuels and Rachel's.
I would like to thank you all for answering my original query.
Regards
Smithy
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Hi there,
Know your posts are now old but have only just joined and come across them. Am very interested in your ref to Samuel Hall being your gggg-grandfather, as have been doing my wifes FH for some years and he is hers also. Also was intrigued by the 'parental consent' referred to as had also noticed this. However I noted that during that period (1810-1830) nearly all marriages carried out at Gillingham/East Stour/West Stour - particularly those performed by a Walter Whitaker - have that comment. In some cases the comment reads - with consent of ALL parents!!. It seems very obvious that around that time and for those parishes, and that gentleman in particular it was used just as a general comment and not to signify that those being married were under age. At a guess I would say that about 90% of the marriages during that period have that comment. Find it very hard to believe that they were all under age!!
Would love to make contact with you as it looks as though you and my wife are related
Regards
Peter Castle
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Hi Peter,apologies for not answering sooner as we have just returned from holidays.
This is how I am a descendant of Samuel Hall:
Samuel Hall Born 1749 Gillingham Dorset. Died abt. 1842 Married 1777 Mary Herridge Born 1756.Died 1834.
Samuel Hall Born 1789 Dorset Died 1861 Gillingham Dorset Married 1813 Jane Hann Born 1789 died 1857.
Samuel is the 6th child ( I think) of Samuel&Mary.
Edward Hall Born 1820 Gillingham Dorset Died 1890 Dandenong. Vic.Australia. Married 1841 Mary Sanger Born abt. 1821 Dorset.Died 1911 Cheltenham Vic. Australia. Edward is the third child of Samuel & Jane. He is my Great Great Grandfather.
Would very much like to exchange any other info with you.
regards
Carol
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I am confused.
Your latest post talks of Edward Hall b1820 who married Mary Sanger, and yet earlier posts talk of an Edward Hall bc1810 who married a Rachel Hall.
The emigration date has moved from 1857 to 1848.
Earlier you were unsure as to Rachel's parents; now she seems to be out of the picture.
Presumably we are no longer looking for an 1851 entry. Is the Edward/Rachel partnership still relevant?
Can you let us know what you are now looking for, and what you know for certain about this family?
Richard