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Title: Help with regt and medal
Post by: Andi R on Tuesday 03 April 07 18:21 BST (UK)
Hi folks

the gent on this picture lived through the war only to be killed with the the other 103 men in the William Pit disaster.  He was one of the last three unrecognisable men to be brought out identified only by his new clogs I would like to find out his regiment and what that medal ribbon is

Thanks folks
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: neil1821 on Tuesday 03 April 07 19:48 BST (UK)
Superficially, the medal ribbon looks to me like the British War Medal from WW1.  ???
It doesn't immediately strike me as any of the usual WW2 medals.
That doesn't seem to fit though  ???

The red patch isn't a regimental badge, but rather a divisional flash or some other formation sign. Not an area I know much about. What is it though, a knight on horseback?

The blue shoulder flash above that would likely be his regiment, but it's totally unreadable. Can any more be made out in the original picture? If so we might need a high resolution scan of the badges.

Neil
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: Wendi on Tuesday 03 April 07 20:05 BST (UK)
Hi Andrew

Has the picture been coloured up, either by traditional or digital methods?

Wendi  :)
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: manmack on Tuesday 03 April 07 20:13 BST (UK)
it looks like a war medal to me as well,mack
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: neil1821 on Tuesday 03 April 07 20:19 BST (UK)
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its the parachute regt,mack

How can you tell mack? Educate us!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: manmack on Tuesday 03 April 07 20:23 BST (UK)
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its the parachute regt,mack

How can you tell mack? Educate us!!  ;D ;D

sorry andy,i thought it was the para brigade patch,but i think ime wrong,mack
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: Andi R on Tuesday 03 April 07 20:46 BST (UK)
Unfortunatly this is the only photo I have and it was sent to me electronically, it has been a black and white picture that has been tinted like they used fo do (sadly)

The soldier in it was only in his mid thirties when he was tragically killed in 1947, so the medal must be WW11

Andrew

Sad really, survived the war and like many men around here go back to the mines only to be "blown up" and buried in a mass unmarked grave
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: Andi R on Tuesday 03 April 07 22:00 BST (UK)
I've just been looking on e-bay and have came up with a regimental badge for the Royal Horse Guards - now I know nothing about about the RHG, so how do I find out about the shoulder/division flash??

Andrew
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: harribobs on Tuesday 03 April 07 23:33 BST (UK)
i think we've the problem we have is that we are trying to identify what the colourist thought the medal ribbon should look like  :(, he may have been looking at WW1 ribbons and gone with that???
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: old rowley on Tuesday 03 April 07 23:41 BST (UK)
The formation sign  of a white knight with lance on a white steed with red background is that of the 8th Army Corps and was used by that group in (and from) 1943.

old rowley

Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: OldBraggs on Wednesday 04 April 07 07:01 BST (UK)
The fact that he only has the one ribbon suggests that it should be the Africa Star. I believe that the ribbon for this star was being worn before the end of the war.

Steve
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: Andi R on Wednesday 04 April 07 17:27 BST (UK)
Lots of photos got ruined by colouring

I have an Africa Star of my dads here, but his regiment The Royal Artillery is easy to identify ut this is puzzling - I have asked for a better scan to be sent but the photo is in really bad condition

It really would be a shame if I can't solve this as what I have heard about this man is incredible

Andrew
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: Wendi on Wednesday 04 April 07 17:51 BST (UK)
Hi Andrew

Are you in touch with the relations of this man? 

I'm kinda presuming that your interest is in the Pit Disaster

Wendi  :)
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: Andi R on Wednesday 04 April 07 18:01 BST (UK)
His Son is my brother in law and died before his son was born, someone came across a few details and things and asked me if could find anymore

Someone was writing a book and it spurred my sister into wanting to get more too late for the book but

He was one of the last three bodies to be brought out and only recognised by his clogs apparently

Andrew
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: Wendi on Wednesday 04 April 07 23:20 BST (UK)
Andrew if his son is his next of kin he is entitled to his service record, which would widen your knowledge.

It is available to him via http://www.rootschat.com/links/014s/

Any questions give me a shout  ;)

Wendi  :)

Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: Andi R on Thursday 05 April 07 18:15 BST (UK)
Thanks for that I have literally just got my fathers today. which during his time as a reservist I've got a mention on as an excuse for leave from camp

Thing is the only thing we have is a name and date of birth of the one I am searching

Andrew
Title: Re: Help with regt and medal
Post by: Wendi on Thursday 05 April 07 20:48 BST (UK)
The great news is if you follow the link I gave the VA have relaxed their criteria to just what you have !!!!

Wendi  :)