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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Glamorganshire Lookup Requests => Glamorganshire => Wales => Glamorganshire Completed Lookups => Topic started by: Wendy Mc on Sunday 05 December 04 23:46 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
Looking for John and Eliza (Elizabeth Gertude) PRICE on the 1851 census for Merthyr Tydfil. They married in April that year so not sure when census was taken.
Any help greatly appreciated.
cheers,
Wendy
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Hello ;D Do you have rough birthyears & a maiden name for Eliza/beth Gertrude? There are many matches to the name John Price.
The Census was taken on 31st March 1851, so if they married in April they were in all probability not enumerated under the same address.
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Hi Jen,
Thanks for your reply.
John Price born abt 1827 Montgomeryshire and Eliza Price (maiden name Rudge) born 1830 Glamorganshire. Married 12/4/1851 Merthyr Tydfil. I don't know John's parents names but Eliza's were William Rudge and Margaret Roberts.
Appreciate your help.
cheers,
Wendy :)
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Look up request completed :)
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Thanks for your help Jen.
As you said a little disappointing but I'm not surprised. At least it's helping to build the Price line slowly but surely. I will have to get the marriage cert. for John & Eliza Price. Can you advise the best way to obtain this from Merthyr tydfil? I live in Australia.
Always appreciate your help,
regards,
Wendy
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Hi Wendy
Could this be the parents of Eliza in 1851 per the
Powys fhs census returns.
Cannot see Eliza in the county.
Rhys
1851 Breconshire
Parish of Llangattock
Beaufort
RUDGE William, h, m, 55, cordwainer , GLS Blackney, Beaufort
RUDGE Margaret, w, m, 50, , CMN St Clears, Beaufort
RUDGE Martha, d, u, 10, scholar, BRE Llangattock, Beaufort
RUDGE Hannah , d, u, 7, scholar, BRE Llangattock, Beaufort
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Hello again
1841 BRECONSHIRE
LLANGATTOCK PARISH
Waingoch
RUDGE WILLIAM 45 CORDWAINER N
MARGARET 40 N
ELIZA 13 Y
BETSY 6 Y
MARTHA 2M Y
The y does not tie in with eliza being born in
Glamorgan.
waungoch is in beaufort
Rhys
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Thanks for your help Jen.
Can you advise the best way to obtain this from Merthyr tydfil? I live in Australia.
Always appreciate your help,
regards,
Wendy
Dear Wendy.
The registers for Merthyr are divided between 2 offices :
Merthyr Tydfil Ground Floor, Castle House, Glebeland Street, Merthyr Tydfil, CF47 8AT.
Tel: 01685 723318
Pontypridd Courthouse Street, Pontypridd, CF37 1JS.
Tel: 01443 486869. Fax: 01443 406587.
I am not sure if they have an email address.
The main site I would usually direct you too has a broken link for Merthyr but if you need this link: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
If you are not sure where to order the certificate and as you are living outside the UK you can order via this site: http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/partners/gro.htm
I have been told in local records offices that you need the reference when ordering with Southport.
I hope this helps you
Jen :D
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Hi Rhys,
Yes that does look like you've found the family for me. According to the IGI, William & Margaret Rudge were married 7/7/1824 Llangattock, Brecon and there is a daughter Hannah mentioned. Hannah's b.d. is 10/11/1836 which doesn't match with the 1851 census listing her as 7y.o. The IGI could be wrong of course.
As for the birth place of Eliza, I am reading from her son's b.c. (Richard Henry Price- my g.g'father) which states mothers age in 1870 was 42y.o. and place of birth Glamorgan. Her D.C states born Merthyr Tydfil.
John & Eliza's first born was a son William John James Price born 1852 South Wales. All other children born in Australia.
Thanks alot Rhys, I really appreciate the information you've found for me.
I am only too happy to help with any OZ queries.
best wishes,
Wendy :)
Thankyou again Jen,
I will have a crack at obtaining the cert. today. Thanks to this site and the generosity of people like yourself and Rhys, the task of piecing together the family history, is made that much easier and more enjoyable.
Thankyou for taking the time,
best wishes,
Wendy