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Title: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Sunday 01 July 07 12:40 BST (UK)
Is anyone on this list researching PHIMISTER in Caithness?
I may have some sort of connection depending on verification of some related details. Thought it might be worth getting organised in case.

Thanks,

James.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Saturday 04 August 07 12:16 BST (UK)
Hi James,
There are Phimisters in my family tree although I don't know much about them.   :(
I have Isabella Phimister, can't find any date of birth although she was 28 in the 1851 cenusus.  She married John McKenzie (quarryman) in Broadhaven (?) on 31st Jan, 1840.  Her father (I am assuming) was George Phimister, farmer. He is mentioned in the marriage entry as the witnesss "for the woman".  I haven't been able to find any birth or death details for Isabella.  I do know she had a son George Phimister McKenzie born around 1851 in Wick.

It's all a bit vague I know!
Thanks  :)
Bec
Australia
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Saturday 04 August 07 13:00 BST (UK)
Hi Bec,

Thanks for your reply.

For starters, I have:

Marjory Phimister (schoolteacher) married a James Mitchell b around 1846.

James was brother to Charles Mitchell, fishcurer, Fraserburgh b. 1826 married to Janet Rettie.

Their daughter Mary Ann Mitchell married Peter Slessor.

There's loads of stuff going sideways, but so far, I've not gone far purely with Phimister.

James.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Sunday 05 August 07 07:56 BST (UK)
Hi James,
I'm having a lot of trouble finding my Phimisters!  I can find Isabella in the 1851 census without any trouble but not in the 1841 or any subsequent to 1851..it's very odd.  Like the family just disappears.   :(

Bec
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Sunday 05 August 07 08:12 BST (UK)
Hi there Bec,

It really is inconsiderate of these ancestors to be so elusive, right?
Did the name itself find its way to Oz or just the genes?

This isn't a name I'd had any contact with until recently.  I believe there are still Phimisters in Caithness (Wick) but haven't uprooted them as yet.

For me, it is a connecting name rather than a main research one.  That said, I don't like leaving a job half done.

James.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Sunday 05 August 07 08:20 BST (UK)
Have I the right Isabella?

Father = George Phimister b: 1790 in Wick c: 28 Apr 1790 in Wick Caithness

Mother = Alexanderina Wares b: 1790 in Wick Caithness

Marriage = 1 John McKenzie b: 1804 in Gairloch, Ross & Cromarty
Married: 31 Jan 1840 in Wick Caithness
Children
 John McKenzie b: 1842 in Wick Caithness
 Alexanderina McKenzie b: 1846 in Wick Caithness
 Margaret McKenzie b: 1848 in Wick Caithness
 George McKenzie b: 1850 in Wick Caithness
 James McKenzie b: 1859 in Wick Caithness

There's another poster here on rootschat doing Wares btw.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Monday 06 August 07 12:54 BST (UK)
Hi James,
Thanks for the msg...I had joined the Caithness.org forum but haven't had time to look or post  :(

It certainly looks like the right Isabella although I have no idea about her parents...I haven't found death details or any other details other than her marriage to John Mckenzie and the 1851 census.   ???
I can't figure out why she disappears when I'm only changing the census year and her age.  Any tips??

The McKenzie line is actually the "main" line. My Grandmother was a Mackenzie/Mckenzie and George (born 1850 in Wick) was her grandfather. So I don't think the Phimisters made it out here through that line!

Bec
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Monday 06 August 07 13:41 BST (UK)
Hi Bec,

No clues as yet, but a name change - even spelling variant -might make the difference.

Re Phimisters generally - http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?t=30201
follow thread till reference to FHS - its £10 membership lol.

Why not post your message on my forum (pm me for details) and it might be spotted.

Meantime, will keep on 'digging'.

James.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Tricia MORE on Tuesday 07 August 07 10:43 BST (UK)
1861 Hillhead Wick Ref 043  ED 2 Pg 41.212
John McKenzie Head  M M 46 Labourer
Isabella Wife M F 42
George  Son O M 10
Isabella Daur O F 8
James Son O M 1m
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Tuesday 07 August 07 11:09 BST (UK)
Hi Tricia,
I've seen that family but the ages of John Mckenzie and Isabella don't fit with the 1851 census.  Isabella was 28 on the 1851 census while John was 47.  I have John's date of birth as 21.8.1804 in Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.

James...can you give me a clue how you found the 1790 George Phimister and Alexanderina Wares?  I haven't been able to turn them up  :-\

Thanks!
Bec
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Tuesday 07 August 07 11:14 BST (UK)
Hi Tricia,
I've seen that family but the ages of John Mckenzie and Isabella don't fit with the 1851 census.  Isabella was 28 on the 1851 census while John was 47.  I have John's date of birth as 21.8.1804 in Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.

James...can you give me a clue how you found the 1790 George Phimister and Alexanderina Wares?  I haven't been able to turn them up  :-\

Thanks!
Bec


 ;D
following my pm to you, not sure I can but will try.  Will go away, collect myself together and look for what I sent. Sheesh -long day here already :)
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Tuesday 07 August 07 11:20 BST (UK)
1861 Hillhead Wick Ref 043  ED 2 Pg 41.212
John McKenzie Head  M M 46 Labourer
Isabella Wife M F 42
George  Son O M 10
Isabella Daur O F 8
James Son O M 1m

Thanks Tricia.

James.
Title: Re: Geo PHIMISTER Alex'ina Wares
Post by: Tricia MORE on Tuesday 07 August 07 13:03 BST (UK)
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Parents:

George PHIMISTER,1790 -1859  was son of George PHIMISTER ( - ) and Christian BREMNER ( - ), was a Farmer/Innkeeper
Alexandrina WARES, 1791 - 1873    was daughter of James WARES (1761-aft1841) and Isobel GRAY ( -bef1841),
Alexanderina Wares  and George PHIMISTER had the following children:
1              George PHIMISTER (1814-1883)        m Barbara H Campbell
2   William PHIMISTER (1818-1868)      m Christian Sutherland
3   Alexandrina PHIMISTER (1824- )
4   James PHIMISTER (1827-1916)       m  1 Annie Thain(MY LINK) 2  E Jack   
5   Isabella PHIMISTER ( - )                  m John M
6   Alexander PHIMISTER (1837?- )      m Isabella ?   with his mother & children 1871

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Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Tricia MORE on Tuesday 07 August 07 13:48 BST (UK)
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some BIRTHS 
 to John McKenzie  & Isabella Phimister     Wick, Caithness
Alexandrina 25 Nov 1840
John 26 May 1842
William 6 Mar 1857 died 29 Oct 1860
James Phimister McKenzie b 19 May 1860 
Margaret  16 Oct 1862 Died 12 Sep 1864

From census there was another Margaret b c 1848 and  George b c 1850  Isabella b c 1853

1871 Census in Broadhaven Wick
MCKENZIE   John      Head   M   M   65   Labourer   ROC   O   1806
MCKENZIE   Isabella      Wife   M   F   49   O   CAI   Wick   1822
MCKENZIE   James P.      Son   U   M   10   Scholar   CAI   Wick   1861
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Tuesday 07 August 07 14:07 BST (UK)
I think you could be right - needs looking into a bit more, or, something from someone else who 'has been there'.

Will study it some more meanwhile.

James.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Wednesday 08 August 07 11:55 BST (UK)
From the 1851 census.....

Surname    First name(s)    Rel    Status    Sex    Age       Occupation       Where Born       Remarks   
MACKENZIE John       Head       M            M         47    Fisherman     Ross and Cromarty -Gairloch   

MACKENZIE Isabella     Wife    M            F           28       -         Caithness - Wick           
MACKENZIE John       Son       -            M        8       -           Caithness - Wick           
MACKENZIE Alexandrina Dau    -           F                5            -             Caithness - Wick           
MACKENZIE Margaret     Dau       -           F           3       -        Caithness - Wick           
MACKENZIE George   Son       -          M          11m       -        Caithness - Wick

The age of John ties in with the birth year of 1804.  This is the only tie-in I can find! I wonder if they
recorded their ages incorrectly in other years???    OR....as John and Isabella were married in 1840 she would have only been 17 when she was married. I wonder if this accounts for the apparent changes in her age??

Just some ponderings!
Bec
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Wednesday 08 August 07 12:52 BST (UK)
And a few more ponderings....a couple of deaths, both in Wick.

1859, George Phimister, Innkeeper, aged 66. Parents were George Phimister - Farmer, and Christina Phimister, maiden surname Bremmer.

1858, George Phimister, Fisherman, aged 68. Parents were John Phimister - Mason, and Isabella Phimister, maiden surname Munro.


The second one fits better with a 1790 birth for George! Plus (for me at least) him being a fisherman
ties in with the rest of the family further down.

Bec
Title: Re: PHIMISTER Geo m to Al'ina Wares
Post by: Tricia MORE on Wednesday 08 August 07 18:56 BST (UK)
Does it show the spouse on the George death certs???? Who was informant on both?  Think both ages are wrong on death.

I have George  died 1959 Broadhaven Wick was a farmer then innkeeper - his widow Alexanderina Wares was registered as the Innkeeper 1861 1871  She died 9 Jan 1873 Broadhaven Wick.
Census for George m to Alexanderina in 1851 he was 60. in Broadhaven.
If his death give Phimister/Bremner parents then
Son of George P and Christian Bremner b 28 Apr 1790  C110432 .   

Other George b 20 June 1792 to John Ph and Isobel Monroe -   married to Marjory Gunn was fishcurer in Louisburgh Wick 1851.

Gosh this gets confusing :)

Tricia
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Tricia MORE on Wednesday 08 August 07 19:19 BST (UK)
PS
I have the George Phimisters in question MARKED   as 1st cousins - their respective father's John and George being brothers. ???   born in Hempriggs.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Wednesday 08 August 07 21:06 BST (UK)
I might catch up to you folks given half a chance! Meanwhile, pigs are flying ;D

Elizabeth Munro (d 1937)/William Phimister (d 1977) anyone?
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Thursday 09 August 07 02:07 BST (UK)
Tricia unfortunately the spouses aren't mentioned  :(

For George the Innkeeper, (d. 1859) the informant is James Phimister, his son.

For George the Fisherman, (d. 1858) the informant is John Phimister, his brother.



James, Phimisters stop with Isabella for me once she became a McKenzie :)

Bec
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Thursday 09 August 07 02:18 BST (UK)

James, Phimisters stop with Isabella for me once she became a McKenzie :)

Bec

Was only a thought, as I'd seen a stone in the Thurso cemetery.
Took around 40 pics there.

James.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Tuesday 21 August 07 12:48 BST (UK)
YAY  ;D
I finally found the death cert of Isabella McKenzie (Phimister). Sometimes it's as much as
the details you leave out as the details you put in that helps turning things up.  She died in 1894

Her parents were George Phimister and Alexanderina Wares...so I've finally figured
out the right George.  Am just sorting through some of the other details you
posted previously Tricia...bedtime on this side of the world though!

Bec
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Tuesday 21 August 07 13:25 BST (UK)
Couldn't sleep....decided to use up my Scotland online credits instead ;)

Quote
George PHIMISTER,1790 -1859  was son of George PHIMISTER ( - ) and Christian BREMNER ( - ), was a Farmer/Innkeeper
Alexandrina WARES, 1791 - 1873    was daughter of James WARES (1761-aft1841) and Isobel GRAY ( -bef1841),

Tricia on the death certificate I found for Alexandrina WARES, (d. 9.1.1873, Wick) her parents are given as James WARES and Ann BREMMER or BREMNER...no Isobel Gray.

This is too confusing. ::)  :)

Bec
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: longberry on Wednesday 22 August 07 19:18 BST (UK)
When i was a boy in Wick there was a family called Phimister who had a large shop in McArthur St. this was in the 1940's and possibly the early 50's but I know little else abot them. the shop then became a Co-operative Haberdashery
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Wednesday 22 August 07 19:33 BST (UK)
I'd bet it was all part of same family,however extended.

James.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: longberry on Wednesday 22 August 07 22:31 BST (UK)
James
It seems to run in my mind that some members of the Mcnab family came into this somewhere but would have to check
frank
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Thursday 23 August 07 02:00 BST (UK)
McNabs - Ancient Home, (& burial ground) Killin.quite a lot south of 'up here'.

James.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: markee on Thursday 23 August 07 16:54 BST (UK)
Hi
Just joined and seen this thread.
My paternal grandmother's maiden name was Phimister, although both she and her father John, were born in Sunderland, Co Durham.
His father was Alexander Phimister, a mariner, born in Caithness, Wick.
However, can't find any mention of him in birth registers in Scotland's People.
Guess most of the Phimisters were probably related; not sure how common the name is.

Margaret
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Thursday 23 August 07 17:56 BST (UK)
Margaret,

Have you any dates?

James.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: markee on Thursday 23 August 07 19:24 BST (UK)
Hi James

Thanks for your reply.

Alexander Phimister was born in 1825 and he was 28 when he married Elizabeth Burdis in Sunderland in 1853. On the marriage certificate his father is John, who is also a mariner.

Alexander and Elizabeth's first child, John, my great grandfather, was born in 1853.

Unfortunately I have no other information on Alexander.

Margaret

Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Thursday 23 August 07 19:50 BST (UK)
Hi James

Thanks for your reply.

Alexander Phimister was born in 1825 and he was 28 when he married Elizabeth Burdis in Sunderland in 1853. On the marriage certificate his father is John, who is also a mariner.

Alexander and Elizabeth's first child, John, my great grandfather, was born in 1853.

Unfortunately I have no other information on Alexander.

Margaret



So this would not be your line?:


Name: Alexander PHIMISTER Snr
Sex: M
Birth: 1824 in Scotland
Death: SEP 1894 in Sunderland 
Note: aged 66
Occupation: Mariner


Marriage 1 Elizabeth b: 1828 in Durham Sunderland
Children
 Alexander PHIMISTER Jnr b: 1857 in Sunderland
 Rose Anne PHIMESTER b: 1868 in Durham Sunderland


James.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: markee on Thursday 23 August 07 20:15 BST (UK)
Hi James
I've just looked at your post and I think that those names might be mine. Certainly the names Alexander and Elizabeth are mine and also the occupation ties in with what I know. I do know that the name Alexander was used in the family as my grandmother, Eleanor Phimister, had a brother whose name was Alexander.
Would you know where I could get information on Alexander senior's place of birth?

Margaret
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Thursday 23 August 07 22:36 BST (UK)
Hi Margaret, I'm new to Phimisters, even newer to Burdis.  Trekking through Rootsweb, found this and wondrered if you thought it worth checking:
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burdis/1/mb.ashx

I'm still blundering around in the dark for you meantime.

James.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Thursday 23 August 07 22:44 BST (UK)
Hi James

Thanks for your reply.

Alexander Phimister was born in 1825 and he was 28 when he married Elizabeth Burdis in Sunderland in 1853. On the marriage certificate his father is John, who is also a mariner.

Alexander and Elizabeth's first child, John, my great grandfather, was born in 1853.

Unfortunately I have no other information on Alexander.

Margaret

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=251972.new#new
Go to:


Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: markee on Friday 24 August 07 09:23 BST (UK)
Hi James
Thanks for the reply. I'll be checking that one out.
Interestingly I have the name Burdis on both sides of the family, although the other one is through marriage and not a blood relative. As they both occur in the family tree at about the same time I am seeing if there is a link.
Funny how things turn out 
I'm not giving up on the Phimisters - I've found that often things just slot into place when you least expect it.
Margaret
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Tricia MORE on Saturday 25 August 07 18:00 BST (UK)
Tricia on the death certificate I found for Alexandrina WARES, (d. 9.1.1873, Wick) her parents are given as James WARES and Ann BREMMER or BREMNER...no Isobel Gray.

This is too confusing. ::)  :)

Bec
Quote

Bec can you give me her age at death, place  and the informant.  Did it give her husband's occupation?
I will try to find out about why I have Isobel Gray.
Tricia
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Tuesday 28 August 07 07:14 BST (UK)
Tricia if you PM me your email I'll send you a copy.

Bec
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: peterd500 on Saturday 08 September 07 03:39 BST (UK)
Not sure where I got some of these dates, etc, might have been from a Worldconnect database.  Otherewise it is from the likes of IGI, census, googling, etc.

Issue to George PHIMISTER & Christian BREMNER
- John PHIMISTER bap 3 May 1784 Wick, died 11 Mar 1853 Wick buried Old WIck Cemetery
- Alexandrina PHIMISTER 9 Dec 1778 Wick
- George PHIMISTER 28 Apr 1790 Wick
- Francis PHIMISTER 24 Nov 1792

John PHIMISTER
= Rose Ann FARQUHAR (1783-1836 Wick)
11 Nov 1808 Wick.
Issue:
- George PHIMISTER bap 20 Apr 1811
- John PHIMISTER c.1809/13
- Barbara PHIMISTER bap 23 Apr 1815
- Christian PHIMISTER bap 02 Jun 1817
- Robert PHIMISTER b.1813/18-1836
- William PHIMISTER b.1819/13-11 Pulteney, Wick -Sep 1890 Thrumster, Wick

Christian PHIMISTER
= James LEVACH (bap 17 May 1815 Watten)
 20 Jul 1838.
Issue:
- James LEVACH bap. 05 Oct 1838 Wick
- Rose-anna LEVACH bap. 27 Aug 1840
- Jane LEVACH bap. 11 Nov 1842
- Janet Christina LEVACH bap. 01 Jan 1844
- Margaret Cooper LEVACH bap. 01 Jan 1850
- George Alexander LEVACH bap. 01 Jan 1853

William PHIMISTER
= Janet Wemyss CORMACK (03 Jan 1824 Hempriggs, Wick-15 Jul 1908 Durran, Olrig)
07 Oct 1843 Wick.

Janet is on my family tree as the daughter of John CORMACK & Janet REOCH (various spellings), John CORMACK being baptised 07 Oct 1788 to Alexander CORMACK & Isobel CALDER.  John CORMACK's sister Barbara CORMACK (1786 Watten -1868 Wick) who married John SINCLAIR (1780 Wick - 1857 Wick) in 1805 Wick is my ancestor.

Issue to Janet & William:

- John PHIMISTER    09 Aug 1843 Reiss, Wick
- Alexander PHIMISTER   16 Feb 1845 Reiss, Wick
- William PHIMISTER   22 Sep 1847 Ackergill, Wick
- Rosanna PHIMISTER   15 Jul 1852
- Janet PHIMISTER  03 Feb 1858 Wick
- Catherine PHIMISTER    31 Dec 1862 Wick

Rosanna PHIMISTER
= William DOULL (c.1852 Glasgow)
1874 Portsea registration district, Hampshire, England
- Elizabeth Winifred  DOULL 1877 reg Ringwood, Reg dist. Hampshire
- Jessie Wemyss DOULL 1876 reg Ringwood, Reg dist. Hampshire
- John DOULL c.1880 Wick
- William DOULL c.1882 Hempriggs, Wick
- George DOULL c.1883 hempriggs, Wick
- Catherine DOULL c.1885 Reddrie, Glasgow
- Margaret DOULL c.1886 Barlinnie, Glasgow
- James DOULL c.1887 Reddrie, Glasgow
- Frederick DOULL c.1888 Barlinnie, Glasgow
- Rosanna DOULL c.1889 Reddrie, Glasgow
- Henrietta DOULL c.1894 Edinburgh, Midlothian

Janet PHIMISTER
= John CHALMERS (c.1855 Watten)
probably 1880
Issue:
- John CHALMERS   c.1882 Wick
- William CHALMERS   c.1884 Wick
- Donald B. CHALMERS   c.1887 Wick
- Alexander C. CHALMERS   c.1889 Wick
- James CHALMERS   c.1890 Wick
- Jessie C. CHALMERS   c.1893 Wick

Naturally I am keen to hear about the descendants of William PHIMISTER & Janet Wemyss CORMACK Janet and her descendants are related to me.

Peter
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Humphreyjohn on Wednesday 09 January 08 05:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Tricia & Bec
Just to confirm, the death registration of George Phimister Innkeeper  - died 12/8/1859 in  Boathaven, Wick aged 66 yrs – does give his parents as “George Phimister Farmer Deceased” and “Christina Phimister Maiden Name Bremner (Deceased)”. It records him as married, but doesn’t mention his widow’s name. The registration of her death (Alexandrina Wares “Widow of George Phimister, Farmer”) - 14 years later, 9/1/1873, at Boathaven - definitely records her parents as "James Wares Farmer (deceased) Ann Wares M.S. Bremner (deceased)"
John  - Toronto
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: gillt on Thursday 20 March 08 13:36 GMT (UK)
Rose Phimister is my ggggrandmother

Gillian
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: longberry on Thursday 20 March 08 18:57 GMT (UK)
The only Phimister I have is a william,married to Jamesina Manson Sutherland
Frank
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Tricia MORE on Thursday 20 March 08 19:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Gillian
Do you mean
Rosanna PHIMISTER   b15 Jul 1852
Who did your Rose marry?
Tricia
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: gillt on Friday 21 March 08 09:27 GMT (UK)
My apologies, I should have used maiden name.

Rose Farquhar c.1783, is my ancestor in a direct female line. She was married to John Phemister. I am aware of one child, Christina Phemister (1817) who married James Levack.

Gillian
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Oddquine on Monday 07 April 08 20:08 BST (UK)
Out of interest, I have a person in my family tree I think may have originated in Orkney.......and her surname has been reported in various OPR and Scotland's people certificates as Fubister, Foubister, Whimster, Phubister, Fibister, Phimpster, Phimster and Whibister.

Phimister, do you think?



Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: gillt on Tuesday 08 April 08 12:45 BST (UK)
Very possible, but could also be Furbister
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 09 June 08 23:30 BST (UK)
Hi James,

A relatively newbie, here, was browsing the various boards and came across the one for Phimister.

My mother was the 3rd ggranddaughter of George Phimister and Christian Bremner.

I also have a lot of info.

Cheers
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Monday 09 June 08 23:39 BST (UK)
Hi James,

A relatively newbie, here, was browsing the various boards and came across the one for Phimister.

My mother was the 3rd ggranddaughter of George Phimister and Christian Bremner.

I also have a lot of info.

Cheers

Hi there kiwihalfpint, welcome on board.  I haven't been Phimistering for some time, so, please, tell me who these two are if you would.  There's 4 pages of messages on this thread.
(I was actually in the middle of something in Kiwiland when the notification came through of your message)

Thanks,

James.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 09 June 08 23:52 BST (UK)
Hi James,

I have no idea you Georges parents were, but George was born about 1756 in Hempriggs, Wicks, Caithness, Scotland and Christian Bremner was the daughter of James Bremner and Jannet Sinclair.  Chrisitan was born 29 July 1760 in Quaybme, Orkney Islands, Scotland.    They were my 4th ggrandparents.  

Not sure if this is what you want.

Kiwi
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Monday 09 June 08 23:56 BST (UK)
And the George (born 1790) who married Alexandrina Wares was their son?
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 10 June 08 00:01 BST (UK)
yes, there son married Alexandrina Wares - my 3rd ggrandparents, and George and Christians other son John married Isabella Munro.

I couldn't help notice you are researching Trail and Wallace - I have them in another family tree of mine

Cheers
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 10 June 08 00:05 BST (UK)
My mothers grandparents were William Phimister and Maggie Smith Bo, and ggrandparents George Campbell and Barbara Helen Campbell.

Does that help???
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Kin-getter on Tuesday 10 June 08 00:08 BST (UK)
yes, there son married Alexandrina Wares - my 3rd ggrandparents, and George and Christians other son John married Isabella Munro.

I couldn't help notice you are researching Trail and Wallace - I have them in another family tree of mine

Cheers

Main search area has been Fraserburgh but some names kind of connect. Of late, I've been giving all that a bit of a rest while I took on new research which has nothing to do with Caithness/Fraserburgh etc.  I'm now kind of rusty on it and therefore slow.

I mentioned Kiwiland.

I'll pm you a couple of forums in that respect, and one rather more general one.
Meantime share what you like on here and be glad you've found such a first class site.

James.
My mothers grandparents were William Phimister and Maggie Smith Bo, and ggrandparents George Campbell and Barbara Helen Campbell.

Does that help???
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Tricia MORE on Tuesday 10 June 08 08:58 BST (UK)
My mothers grandparents were William Phimister and Maggie Smith Bo, and ggrandparents George Campbell and Barbara Helen Campbell.

Hi Kiwi
Welcome to The board.
Alexanderina Wares is my link to George Phimister but also via their g'daughter Barbara Campbell Phimister b 1868 Wick, Caithness who married my 2C4R  Donald Anderson MORE b 1863 Wick.

Tricia
born a MORE in Wick
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: alexena on Tuesday 10 June 08 12:57 BST (UK)
Hi,

My mother's grandparents were also William Phimister and Maggie Smith Bo. I have a photograph of William if interested.

Alexena
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Tricia MORE on Tuesday 10 June 08 13:02 BST (UK)
Hi,
My mother's grandparents were also William Phimister and Maggie Smith Bo. I have a photograph of William if interested.
Alexena
Yes Please
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: alexena on Tuesday 10 June 08 13:49 BST (UK)
My grandmother Margaret Ann Phimister married to Joseph Campbell was
William Phimister & Maggie's Smith bo's daughter.
Alexena
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: Tricia MORE on Tuesday 10 June 08 14:31 BST (UK)
what a great photo - thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Wednesday 11 June 08 21:24 BST (UK)
Hi, :)

My batteries must be recharging as I forgot to reply to a response to this thread and sent you PMs instead.

Alexena, and I have known about each other for a while, in fact Alexena has been out to NZ and met my mother many years ago and of course mum went back to Scotland quiet a few times.

A few months ago someone contacted through GR and had given me more information on the Phimisters, information that wasn't given to me the first time round, so of course up popped the MORES, but unfortnately the McKenzie line was not on the list.  So I don't mind swapping information for more information.

kiwi :)
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Thursday 12 June 08 03:18 BST (UK)
Ah... I hadn't gotten around to putting on my Phimister branch on GR which is why you hadn't popped up (in fact my memebership has lapsed).  I need to get around to doing that properly...and I will send you the McKenzie line which ends up at me (and now my kids!)
I am in the process (in between dealing with said kids) of learning how to use PAF files properly but it is a long and arduous task with precious little time to do it  :'(

Bec
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 12 June 08 04:58 BST (UK)
Bec :)

I think you will find when you go to GR that the people searching for the Phimisters are all on the tree or have the tree and have branched out probably to find more extensions.  Sharon was the one who got in touch and gave me an extension.

What family tree programe do you have.     Thinking of updating to a genealogy software programe.    Don't even know how to import/export the tree so there could be problems there.     ??? :-[

Cheers
Kiwi :)

Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Thursday 12 June 08 10:14 BST (UK)
Hi Kiwi,
I'm using (or attempting to use!) the Family Search Personal Ancestral File downloaded from the Latter Day Saints.
It seems OK for my purposes at present.

Bec
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 12 June 08 11:00 BST (UK)
Bec,

Mine is family tree at the moment, I think might be the 2003 version.   Its got all my trees on it, but giving some thought to get the genealogy software that has everything you need on it.

Cheers
Kiwi :)
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: alexena on Thursday 12 June 08 16:46 BST (UK)
I came across this snippet in the parish records:-

24th July 1853 - George Phimister on board the Sovereign Steam Boat, had by his wife Barbara Campbell, Findochty, a son baptised and named Samuel Gordon.
witnesses George Campbell & George Campbell.

Alexena  :) :D
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 12 June 08 21:13 BST (UK)
Hi Alexana,

Good on you for finding that, that will make it more interesting to put in, instead of having Findochty.   That makes another ancestor that I have had born on a boat.

kiwi :D :-*
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kris47 on Wednesday 09 July 08 23:29 BST (UK)
Hi peterd500,
     I have just come across this thread and have a little to add to what you posted.
     William Phimister & Janet Cormack's son John Phimister b1843 Reiss, Wick  died 27 Feb 1924 Sarclet, Wick. He married Janet Davidson 29 Apr 1864 Lochshell, Wick daughter of Alexander Davidson & Catherine Dundas(my link) she was born 18 Sep 1828 Reiss Wick and died 31 Aug 1886 Stemster, Wick.
Children of John Phimister & Janet Davidson:-
William Davidson Phimister b 24 Jan 1865 Hempriggs, Wick
Catherine Phimister b 3 Sep 1867 Whitefield Wick
John Alexander Phimister b 15 May 1870 Whitefield Wick

Kris
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: pat s n on Monday 14 July 08 11:47 BST (UK)
Hi

I am a Phimister and my 4xgt grandparents were George Phimister and Christian Bremner of Wick.
Think I may have found George's father at Dunnet.
Anyone care to exchange info?

Pat
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: malbec on Monday 14 July 08 13:14 BST (UK)
Hi Pat,
We must be distantly related as George Phimister and Christian Bremner were my 5xg grandparents.
I don't think I have any info though beyond George.  Will have to check and get back to you.

Bec
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 14 July 08 21:31 BST (UK)
Have sent a PM to both Kris and Pat for addy details

KHP :)
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: spittalhill on Tuesday 15 July 08 09:03 BST (UK)
Caithness Family History Society have a very detailed Phimister Family Tree submitted by one of their members which contains the aforesaid George Phimister and Christian Bremner.
WSM
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 15 July 08 09:20 BST (UK)
Thank you for that.  Will take a look when the computer has stopped throwing a tantrum.

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 15 July 08 21:46 BST (UK)
Hi Spittalhill,

Just had a look at the Caithness Site, but notice you have to be a member.   

As I already have a detailed and completed tree thanks to my mother and her relatives,  the information on there will probably match what I have.

Thanks anyway for your suggestion it was much appreciated.

KHP :)
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: spittalhill on Tuesday 15 July 08 23:10 BST (UK)
For your interest the author of the tree I referred to lives in Brisbane, if that helps.
Title: Re: PHIMISTER
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Wednesday 16 July 08 01:22 BST (UK)
Thanks Spittahill,  I think I know who you mean, just been looking at my tree.

cheers
khp :)