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Title: Auckland births
Post by: petere on Saturday 21 July 07 21:06 BST (UK)
Hi all,
Can anyone help with the births of two brothers Jack Reginald Hunter and George Henry Edgar Hunter born probably Auckland area 1920 - 1930.
Their parents were John Reginald Hunter & Ethel May nee Evans.
This info may help me to find the marriage date & place of John & Ethel. I cannot find the marriage in England so maybe it was in NZ.
I am in England so NZ lookups are not possible for me.
many thanks
Peter Evans
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: DotBrennan on Sunday 22 July 07 08:56 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

There is no marriage for a John HUNTER to an EVANS.

There is however a marriage in 1945 for a Jack Reginald HUNTER to Beryl May DOOLE.

Bren
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: alamar on Sunday 22 July 07 11:29 BST (UK)
Hi Petere

You need to look closer to home. I looked up findmypast.com passenger lists for you. On 6 Dec 1919 the Bremen left Plymouth for Wellington carrying Ethel may Hunter, married,  age 32, son George and one unnamed infant. Their address is given as 30 ***** Rd, Upton Park. Sorry but couldn't read the writing.

I could find no trace of John.

Was quite normal for families to travel separately. Took my Scottish half three ships over two years to come here in the 1920's.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: petere on Monday 23 July 07 16:29 BST (UK)
Thanks for the help folks.

Bren, - That could well be one of the two sons. Thanks that may!! suggest a birth date of around 1920.

alamar - That could be them. The infant could be the other son Jack. I shall look for their births over here. However I could not find a marriage from 1913 to 1930. Thanks for your help.

Peter Evans
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: DotBrennan on Sunday 09 November 08 22:56 GMT (UK)

In the interests of good housekeeping, I’ve moved this post to completed.

Assistance has been provided …….

Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: K Rees on Wednesday 14 July 21 13:14 BST (UK)
My guess
John Reginald Hunter m. Ethel May Baker Oct 1918 West Ham, Essex
George Edgar Hunter b. 1918 England m. Elfreda Doreena .... last lived Tirau, NZ
Jack Reginald Hunter b. Apr Q 1919 West Ham, Essex England; died 1969 Glen Lyn, Auckland; married Beryl May Doole
I may have a photo of John Reg. Hunter, plus a lady and a man.
I am researching James William Hunter, his elder brother.

Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 14 July 21 14:48 BST (UK)
These details:

Deaths:

1968/43742   Hunter   John Reginald   74Y               

1977/51942   Hunter   Ethel May   21 September 1886

Probated will:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=14761691&digital=yes

Probated will:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=16611694&digital=yes


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 14 July 21 15:00 BST (UK)
Cemetery details:

Record for John Reginald Hunter
Date of birth
Unknown

Occupation
Rtd Contractor

Date of death
10 August 1968

Age at death
74 years

Gender
Male

Region
West

Cemetery name
Waikumete Cemetery

Plot location
Waikumete Cemetery, Service Persons Area M, Row 16, Plot 35

Remains type
Body

Date of burial
14 August 1968

Funeral director
J Weir & Company Limited


Ethel May HUNTER
Interment Date:   03/12/1977   Type:   Buried
Funeral Director:      Last Address:   
Location:   Hamilton Park Cemetery<br/>HPC-BECH-25-05      


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 14 July 21 15:12 BST (UK)
Deaths:

2002/7319   Hunter   George Henry Edgar   19 February 1915
2016/2036   Hunter   Elfreda Dorina   18 July 1918

HUNTER, Elfreda Dorina (Freda). Died peacefully in Hamilton surrounded by those who loved her. Aged 97 years. Dearly loved wife of the late George. A loved sister, aunt and friend. At Freda's request a private service has been held.
Published in The New Zealand Herald on Jan. 23, 2016



Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: K Rees on Wednesday 14 July 21 15:17 BST (UK)
Thank you very much.
Your replay may answer the original post by a PeteEvans.
The son called George Henry Edgar Baker Hunter. I now suggest that he may have been born c1915 to a George Baker and his wife Ethel May Evans. This George Baker may have died 1917 and his widow Ethel May married an ANZAC serviceman John Reginald Hunter injured and in England. They have a child called Jack Reginald Hunter and John Reg Hunter adopted Ethel's son thus, the name Baker Hunter.
Thank you for the Wills giving names of grandson and great grandson.

I will need to follow up on your Will references. I have plenty of Rees relations in NZ of whom the above James William Hunter will also be a Rees descendant.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 14 July 21 21:06 BST (UK)
Will of Jack Reginald Hunter:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=16601638&digital=yes

Edit:
This may be the death registration of Beryl May in Queensland, Australia.

1.   
o   Death registration:
o   Beryl May Hunter
2.   

o   Birth year:
o   1906
o   Death date:
o   05/07/1983

3.   
o   Mother's name:
o   Eva May Picton
4.   
o   Father/parent's name:
o   Edward Francis Green

5.   
o   Registration details:
o   1983//54111

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 14 July 21 21:13 BST (UK)
PM sent with details of son mentioned in will of Jack Reginald Hunter.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 14 July 21 21:35 BST (UK)
Just the throwing this into the mix:

WW1 file for a John Reginald Hunter:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=18051254&digital=yes

Born Australia, married Ethel May Baker [widow] on 7.12.1918 @ West Ham. These details are contained in the war file.


Minniehaha.


Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: petere on Wednesday 14 July 21 22:49 BST (UK)
Ethel May Evans marr George Henry Baker 7/1/1912 Bethnal Green

Ethel May Evans marr John R Hunter 7/12/1918 West Ham Essex

I have both certificates if anyone is interested.
I have no death for George Baker. Perhaps he was killed in WW1?

Peter
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 14 July 21 23:41 BST (UK)
These are the deaths from 1900 for the name of George Henry Baker:

1938/29496   Baker   George Henry   32Y   
1970/44603   Baker   George Henry   76Y   
1986/46306   Baker   George Henry   6 April 1904   
1978/49207   Baker   George Henry   4 April 1924   
1980/28653   Baker   Richard George Henry   31 March 1907   
1945/20427   Baker   George Henry   65Y   
2002/7319   Hunter**   George Henry Edgar   19 February 1915   
2004/10241   Baker   George Henry Leonard   19 March 1906


**Note: this name comes up when Baker is put into 'search'.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 15 July 21 02:33 BST (UK)
UK birth registration:

BAKER, GEORGE  HENRY EDGAR    EVANS 
GRO Reference: 1915  M Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 239


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: K Rees on Thursday 15 July 21 05:28 BST (UK)
Thank you Mini
Also just located death notice for  Reg Geo Clyde  Hunter which also gave his birth: 21 Oct 1945 d. 1 Jun 2006. He and Shirley would have had a son Dean as per the Will reference that you provided.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 15 July 21 07:05 BST (UK)
I believe these details relate to the remarried widow of Jack Reginald Hunter: [see reply #6]


1985/43126   Buchanan   Beryl May   20 February 1926


Will of Beryl May Buchanan:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=16620940&digital=yes


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 15 July 21 07:35 BST (UK)
Quote from: K Rees link=topic=245826.msg7185771#msg7185[color=blue
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Thank you Mini
Also just located death notice for  Reg Geo Clyde  Hunter which also gave his birth: 21 Oct 1945 d. 1 Jun 2006. He and *** would have had a son *** as per the Will reference that you provided.

Not sure if you do have the actual death notice? Have sent it by PM.......

I think you should remove the names of the possible/probable living above. [reply #16]

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: petere on Thursday 15 July 21 21:01 BST (UK)
George Baker  (Ethel's first husband) must have died before 7/12/1918, the date Ethel married John Reg as she is listed as a widow on their marriage cert.

Peter
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 15 July 21 21:27 BST (UK)
Ethel May Evans marr George Henry Baker 7/1/1912 Bethnal Green

Ethel May Evans marr John R Hunter 7/12/1918 West Ham Essex

I have both certificates if anyone is interested.
I have no death for George Baker. Perhaps he was killed in WW1?

Peter


See reply #12...

This states that J. R. Hunter was Australian born. [See page 19 & also page 25]. Also on page 25 is the name of his mother "Southern" living in Victoria.


Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 15 July 21 21:47 BST (UK)
Further to reply #20......

Birth registration in Victoria, Australia

HUNTER
John Reginald

Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Martha
HUNTER
<Unknown Family Name>, Unknown
BEEC
1893
28811/1893

I believe this is the person in the WW1 file shown above [in reply #12] who married Ethel May Evans in West Ham in 1918.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: K Rees on Friday 16 July 21 00:09 BST (UK)
You are certainly a great help . Yes, this is the James William Hunter, the brother of John Reginald Hunter whose WW1 record and Will in NZ you found for me.
 I got the correct birth date from Aust WW1 records, although he enlisted under a different name William Andrew Johnson. The Beec would stand for Beechworth where the birth was registered. The mother was living in a Chinese Camp. One of her earlier partners was a Chinese worker drowned in the nearby Ovens River.
 I am doing a project on James William Hunter and photos have emerge of John Reginald Hunter of NZ visiting Australia, so I am trying to show the connection of the two brothers.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 17 July 21 02:50 BST (UK)
Presumably his birth?

HUNTER
Jas Wm
Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Martha
HUNTER
<Unknown Family Name>, Unknown
BEECHWORTH
1891
19554/1891


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 17 July 21 03:01 BST (UK)
Just out of interest, his siblings?


HUNTER
Alie
Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Martha
HUNTER
<Unknown Family Name>
BEEC
1886
15809/1886
HUNTER
Elsie May
Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Martha
HUNTER
<Unknown Family Name>, U
BEECHWORTH
1888
17713/1888

HUNTER
Lily Anne

Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Martha
HUNTER
<Unknown Family Name>, Unknown
BE EC
1876
7010/1876
HUNTER
Louisa Ellen

Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Martha
HUNTER
<Unknown Family Name>, Unknown
BEECHWORTH
1877
20233/1877

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: K Rees on Saturday 17 July 21 03:09 BST (UK)
Thank you
These are a number of the siblings; some with Chinese features; others not; albeit, I believe Martha Hunter was still residing in the Chinese Camp after her partner Charley Ah Hing was drowned 2 Sep 1878 (two of her early children were his Lily Anna 1876 and Louise Ellen 1877).
A fascinating story.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: CherieHunter on Sunday 30 October 22 09:17 GMT (UK)
Hi there All!!
This evening I had decided to try and search for information on my grandfather (Jack Reginald Hunter) and my great grandfather (John Reginald Hunter) as I have no confirmed info on them now my father (Reginald George Clyde Hunter) has passed :(……and I can’t believe my luck finding this chat!! I am so excited I have not read through it completely as yet but thank you all from the bottom of my heart for this information :).
I do know some information that I can recall from past conversations with Dad if anyone has any questions, but what I have read you all know more than me LOL!
So I am Cherie Hunter and I have an older brother Dean Reginald Hunter.
Title: Re: Auckland births
Post by: K Rees on Saturday 27 April 24 13:42 BST (UK)
Hi Cherie
Always happy to help out on Rootschat as others help me.
This should be your heritage line:
Your father, you know and his death date.
Grandparents: Jack Reginald Hunter 1919 England-1969 NZ and Beryl Doole
GG Parents:  John [Jack] Reginald Hunter (1893 Beechworth, Victoria - 1968) and Ethel May Evans
GGG Parents: Unknown male and Martha Hunter (1855 Simpson's Road, Richmond, Victoria - 1942 Myrtleford, Victoria)
GGGG Parents: James Hunter (1820 Greenock, Sco. - Unknown Country Victoria c1896) and Elizabeth Lee Rees (1831 Bristol bp.Haverfordwest - 1867 Richmond, Victoria)
GGGGG Parents:
Robert Hunter and Isabel Ross m. 14 Dec 1805 Middle Greenock Renfrewshire)
John Rees and Martha Tomkins m. 24 Sep 1810 Chingford, Essex

Keith