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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Limerick => Topic started by: Glendreath on Saturday 04 August 07 12:05 BST (UK)
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Searching for Wallace or Wallis, Connor or O'Connor and Hickey deaths during mid to late 1800's. Anyone able to help if I give Christian names?
GLENDREATH
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With such common names you will certainly need to provide more information such as Christian names, possible locations, approx. ages, religion, or any other clues.
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Okay - here goes.
Jeremiah Wallis(WALLACE) marries Catherine O'Connor(Kate Connors)4/3/1848.
Children Mary, William, Anstice, Catherine, Robert born 1849 - 1857 baptized in the Kilfinnane parish.
Robert, Catherine Anstice come to Australia.
***Wanting to find the others dying or marrying***
The family lived in Bosnetstown.
I have other names but want to work on these at the moment.
GLENDREATH
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One of the Moderators should probably move this to Co. Limerick queries as that is where Bosnetstown is located. Unfortunately civil registration of Irish births began in 1864 but have you looked in the church records for marriages of Mary & Robert?
LDS site lists several microfilms for Kilfannane. The Parish register (name of church not mentioned) has records which are too early but presumably the church will have more recent records.
LDS also has 1901 & 1911 census- you can order the microfilms from your local LDS library for a small fee. Jeremiah and Catherine might still be alive then and either have relatives living with them or be living with relatives.
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I'm descended from Patrick Wallace (Wallis) and Ellen Mahony of Bosnetstown, Kilfinane parish, County Limerick. They bore children in Kilfinane parish in the 1830s. Patrick was probably a brother of Jeremiah. I would be interested in comparing information. You can contact me at (*) . Thanks.
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Hi there,
My family are the Conways of Bosnetstown, Kilfinane, Co Limerick but when I was at the church looking through the records I took some photo's of some relevant records. I notice now, that there are some Wallace's and Wallis' in them.
The may not be of your family, but I'm sure they are at least worth a look. I can't PM you due to being a new member, but if you want to PM me with an email address then I'll forward what I have to you.
Thanks
Kieran
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Welcome to Rootschat, Kieran, but after you've made 3 posts you'll be able to get and send Personal Messages.
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Thanks, yeah I saw that - all fine. I have a forum myself and keeping out the spammers is a nightmare ;D
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Kieran, I would love to see photos of the Bosnetstown records. I now have enough posts on RootsChat to allow PM's. Are you able to exchange information that way? Another possibility would be to google "Jeff Taylor" and "Where Did the Party Go" as phrases. My Popcorn78 site gives you my address under Profile. Thanks. -Jeff Taylor
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A few other points: Patrick Wallace (Wallis) and Ellen (Helen) Mahony (Mahoney) were married in 1822 in Bulgaden parish of Limerick (aka Bulgadine-Ballinvana or Kilbreedy Major). At least one of their children --Thomas (1825) -- was born in Bulgaden. They were living in Kilfinane parish by 1833. Thomas and his sister Hanora emigrated to Rutland Township, Kane County, Illinois in the early 1850s.
This Wallace family was related to the semi-famous Irish revolutionary Patrick "Staker" Wallace (see Wikipedia). They weren't direct descendants, but they were closely related. Some of Staker's descendants were living in Bulgaden parish in the 1820s and ended up in Kane County IL by the 1850s.
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Hi Populist, I think that there are about three different Wallis' in my photos, but all of them are as witnesses only for other people's baptism's in Kilfinane church. At least they will give you an idea that those names were in the vicinity during those dates.
My biggest regret is not taking photo's of every page in the two baptism books there, as you never know who else is going to turn out to be a relation further down the line.
I plan to go back there in a few weeks time in the hope that I can get access to the marriage records and if I am allowed I will go through all the books and photograph every page. No point in having it all locked away after all is there?
Will attach what I have next.
Kieran
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This one has Johanna Wallis in 1858 and William Wallace in 1833:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/travelcard/FamilyTree/JandWWallace.jpg)
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This one has Maria Wallace in 1852:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/travelcard/FamilyTree/MariaWallace.jpg)
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This has Maria Wallace in 1849 and Patrick Wallis in 1875:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/travelcard/FamilyTree/PatrickWallis.jpg)
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hi there ;D i just started the search for my family records - the brazil's listed in these records are probably related to our family - Is it hard to gain access to these records? what would i need to do? I have plenty of time to prepare by writing to the person in charge of them etc as i will not get to ireland until february at the latest. Any help would be greatly appreciated :) also how exactly do i read these records? are the names to the right the parents? and the far right the sponsors? sorry total noob at this :-[
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Hi Brazil.
You, my friend, are in luck! :D
We (Conways) are related to the Brazil's somehow. I know this anecdotally, but don't have the proper hard facts, so when I photographed the records, I photographed all the Brazils for future tracing. I am away from my main computer at the moment, but will post up what I have tonight.
Good point about reading the records, I forgot to say what the columns are.
So, first is the date of baptism not the date of birth. Back then people were generally baptised within a day or two - not weeks later like now.
Column 2: Name of child being baptised
Column 3: Parents names, showing the mother's maiden name and sometimes where she is from.
Column 4: The two Godparents.
In terms of getting access to the records, you just need to call parish churches and ask them for a time that you can look at the records. They are generally very accommodating.
Look back here in about twelve hours and good luck with the rest of your searching.
Kieran.
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I think we are related through my great grandparents ;D My great grandfather Joseph Brazil married a Helen or Ellen Conway around 1888 - both are visible on the 1911 census -
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Bulgaden/Ballinscaula/621580/
the joseph, aged 7, was my grandad. One of my relations (O'Donaghue) is in contact with other Conways who used to live near kilfinane - wouldnt it be an amazing co-incidence if it was you??? lol I will try to get a bit more information from them and get back to you. Thanks so much for the records when you post - it will make my job so much easier :) cya cuz (possibly ;))
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Hi again,
Yes, looks like we are related then :D
I do know O'Donohue's, a great family in Oxford. They told me about the Brasil link originally. I'll post up my pics and swap more info.
Thanks
Kieran
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More Brasils:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/travelcard/FamilyTree/brasil1.jpg)
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some more:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/travelcard/FamilyTree/brasil2.jpg)
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...and this is the last lot in the Kilfinane church records.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/travelcard/FamilyTree/brasil3.jpg)
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Hi
I am researching Jeremiah Brazil born about 1808 in Ireland. His trade was a tailor. I have him in Queens County in 1825 married to Sally ( Sarah) Conroy. I cannot find his birth in this area and have search and the name Jeremiah Brazil came up in the Limerick area . Do you have any records that go back to 1808? I notice a few Jeremiah's in the rocords you posted but they are later. I wonder could their be a family connection.
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Hi Aussie-trekkie,
I am heading over to Ireland on saturday and will be doin research both locally in limerick and hopefully in dublin - i will try to find any info relevant to your enquiry.
I will post when i can!!
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Thank you very much I look forward to hearing from you.
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Glendreath,
As you can see this is my first post - I am only a new RootsChat member.
I'm interested in your old message below as a few of the names mentioned below are also names relevant to my ancestors.
My great-grandmother was born Catherine Wallis in 1874 and she had a younger brother Jeremiah Wallis born c. 1877. Their father was Michael Wallis and he himself had a sister Anastasia. The marraige certificate of Catherine shows her coming from Bosnetstown.
Although the dates don't match many of the names do so it is very possible they are related somehow - perhaps my Michael and your Jeremiah were brothers.
I've only really began my research so would be interested in any information you have gathered to date.
Thanks,
JJMB
Okay - here goes.
Jeremiah Wallis(WALLACE) marries Catherine O'Connor(Kate Connors)4/3/1848.
Children Mary, William, Anstice, Catherine, Robert born 1849 - 1857 baptized in the Kilfinnane parish.
Robert, Catherine Anstice come to Australia.
***Wanting to find the others dying or marrying***
The family lived in Bosnetstown.
I have other names but want to work on these at the moment.
GLENDREATH
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Here you go JJMB - congrats you have a new relation :D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/travelcard/wallace.png)
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I think that the Johanna Wallis as on of the witnesses, maybe my great great grandmother. She was born in 1840 somewhere near Kilfinnane,Limerick. Her parents were Edmond Wallis & Elizabeth Crean.
She married John Hannan in June 1869 in the Kilfinnane Roman Catholic Church. They had 7 children, James, my great grandfather, Thomas, Edmond, Charles, John, Mary Ann & Ellen. Mary Ann & Ellen were twins.
Does any of this information connect to any one else's Wallis family ?
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Hi Travelcard.
On the first photocopy my G-G-Grandparents are listed. Eugene Brazill & Hanora Lehane. I think my g-grandmother's baptism is at the bottom of the page, but the town land is not visible. Bosnetstown would be her place of birth. Is there anyway you could check your original copy? I would greatly appreciate it. Also, Where do I put in a request for a marriage & death? Hanora Lehane remarried a Slattery abt 1840-1846. Eugene's death was in this time frame. I am so excited! I have been searching for years & by luck, I found this website. This is great!
Thank you so very much,
Carol
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Hi there,
Here is the end of that page:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/travelcard/FamilyTree/Brazil01.png)
and on the next page there seems to be a couple more from that marriage, but all seem to be spelled slightly differently.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/travelcard/FamilyTree/Brazil02.jpg)
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Hi Travelcard,
Thank you so very much. I am sure that is my G-
grandmother, Johanna Brazill. Her father was Eugene & her mother Hanora/Johanna Lihane/Lehane/etc. I just can't believe I found them here. This is great. How do I found out about Hanora's marriage to Slattery? Eugene's death? What was the name of the church that these records were kept? Thanks again, Carol
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Hi again Travelcard,
Both Maria & Bridget Brazill arrived in New York in 1857.... Gosh, this is so great!
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Hi Carol,
If you want to PM me an email address, then I'll send you all the pages that will have Brazils in them - both births and marriages. Unfortunately I don't have the death records.
The church is the only one in Kilfinane and here is a link to it in Google Maps, if you scroll around you will see the graveyard across the road:
http://goo.gl/maps/Q2SM
Thanks
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Hi Carol - got your PM, just emailing you now - thanks :)
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This has been a great site for me! Thank you Travelcard.... ;D
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Re: Brazills
Are any of the Brazills on Travelcard's photos yours? Thanks, Carol