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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Denbighshire => Topic started by: yogibear on Friday 24 August 07 08:23 BST (UK)

Title: edward griffiths
Post by: yogibear on Friday 24 August 07 08:23 BST (UK)
hi trying to find info on edward griffiths b1844 pentrebychan denbighshire wales. would love to find out parents names but cannot find him on until he is married in 1871.so any info before 1871 would be appreicated
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: wrjones on Friday 24 August 07 09:19 BST (UK)
Hello once again Yogibear,I take it this is a follow up to;
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,250048.0.html
After looking at the Census Entries,I strongly favour Edward being the son of Parents Robert and Jane Griffiths living at Esclusham Below Parish in Denbighshire in 1851.See HO107/2508/263/12.However I don't see the Family or any corresponding members of the Family in 1861.In any event,all this speculation,and perhaps wishful thinking,is no substitute I'm afraid for you obtaining the Marriage Certificate,that I spoke of in the previous thread.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: wrjones on Friday 24 August 07 09:33 BST (UK)
The corresponding Marriage that I spoke of in the GRO Index is January Quarter1867,Volume 11b Page 443.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: ricky1 on Friday 24 August 07 09:43 BST (UK)
hi Yogi

I carnt even find a Pentrebychan on any other census ???

ricky
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: wrjones on Friday 24 August 07 10:59 BST (UK)
Its OK Ricky it is one of those places I have spoken of previously,that if you blink when passing in a car you miss it!On Multimap,if you enter Johnstown,and of course choose Johnstown Wrexham,zoom in and keep following Wrexham Road you will come to the area known as Pentrebychan.It  is also one of those places one should avoid really if fit and healthy,for it is home to what is known as Pentrebychan Crematoreum!

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: ricky1 on Friday 24 August 07 11:36 BST (UK)
hi William

No wonder I couldnt find it I even tried Genuki and that didnt come up with anything ???

ricly
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 August 07 18:28 BST (UK)
Hi all

Ricky - now you should have asked me about Pentrebychan  :)

Yogi - the North Wales BMD ( http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi ) has 2 Edward Griffiths registered in Wrexham around that time:

1844 as WM/005/53

and

1846 as WM/007/1

also (an outside possibility)  one in Ruabon in 1846 as RBN/007/76

nothing for 1845

These are the local references.

Regards

Gadget
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: yogibear on Sunday 26 August 07 21:17 BST (UK)
thanks everyone.will look through everything and hopefully find the right one.
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: yogibear on Sunday 26 August 07 21:38 BST (UK)
hi i have had a look at the 1851 census and i cant find them. i must be doing something wrong.think i will have to get hi marriage cert at some point from wales.
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: wrjones on Sunday 26 August 07 22:05 BST (UK)
Yes Yogibear,as Del Boy would say;"You know it makes sense"!

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: JustLooking on Sunday 26 August 07 22:10 BST (UK)
Also, the 1851 census for that area is not available on Ancestry. They may be there on the original film. If you're near an LDS Family History Centre, you could order the film for the area and look through. Tedious but that was the way we had to do it before Ancestry, etc. indexes.

JL
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: Paul on Monday 27 August 07 16:54 BST (UK)
Hello yogi,
What is his wifes name and where are they living on the 1871?

Paul.
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: wrjones on Monday 27 August 07 16:59 BST (UK)
See the first reply I posted on this thread Paul.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: Paul on Monday 27 August 07 22:42 BST (UK)
Thanks William, I just wasn't thinking.

Paul.
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: wrjones on Monday 27 August 07 23:25 BST (UK)
I don't usually do it either Paul!

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: Gadget on Monday 27 August 07 23:35 BST (UK)
Is anyone going to help poor yogi  ::) ::) ::)

Paul - I think it's one for you but they might have been chapel  :-\

Gadget
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: wrjones on Tuesday 28 August 07 00:00 BST (UK)
Well Gadget,I've advised her to buy the Marriage Certificate!

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: Paul on Tuesday 28 August 07 00:18 BST (UK)
I have had a bit of a look at this one before, you could be right Gadget (again) ;) it might be chapel :'(
I'll take another look.

Paul.
Title: Re: edward griffiths
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 28 August 07 00:21 BST (UK)
That area was predominantly non-conformist, Paul. William is right though. If yogi gets the marriage cert, she'd at least have the father's details.

Gadget