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Title: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 14:40 BST (UK)
Hi everyone , I'm trying another line of attack, this family must be somewhere, they feel as though they are wanting to be found  ???
 could someone please look in 1871 census, Boston.
 for William Moore, who may have a daughter with him called Annie Moore, aged abt 16yrs,
 in 1874 when she married Tom Chambers Exton, she was living at 35 B, James street, Boston.
   from Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 15:10 BST (UK)
Hi Eilleen

I had a look at 35b James street on the 1871 for Boston, and no one was living there then ???

ricky
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 15:23 BST (UK)
Thank's Ricky,  Maybe the house was empty , because they were all hiding from the rent man  :D
as you can see, great grandma is giving me problems  ::)
I have been told she was a force to be reckoned with, legend has it she would push her fish barrow from St Martin's to the market in Lincoln to sell her ware's,  one idiot said she had gone and fetched the fish from Grimsby, and pushed it all the way to Lincoln to sell them,   I for one wouldn't fancy fish after that journey,   but I need to find her family, her Ma and Pa etc etc,   someone know's  :'( :'(
 Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 15:29 BST (UK)
Hi Eilleen

have you got her on any census before she got married, as for the life of me I carnt see her on any until after she marries ???
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 15:38 BST (UK)
Ricky, my deargreat granny  :-X :-X,  is being so  ::)
 this is what I am after,  finding anything on her before her marriage, maybe she was an alien, as a child I had nightmare's about space ship's , maybe it was reggresion memories, or is it agression  ???
  help, where do I go from here  ???
  Eilleen,
 p.s,   can we not get everyone on this board looking for her  ::)
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 15:53 BST (UK)
hi Eilleen

have you got any Spanow or Sparrow  Sharrow or something like that in your tree ???
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 15:55 BST (UK)
Why, should I have, and would they be easier to find  ???
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: GeoffE on Sunday 26 August 07 15:57 BST (UK)
What was William's occupation?
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 15:58 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff,   great two men helping,   :)
 William was ,    wait for it,,,,,,,,,,,,,a labourer  ::)
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 16:07 BST (UK)
hi Geoff

Have you got ancestry, if so have a look at the Anne Moore supposed to be aged 4 born Gosberton Rutland. I aint so sure it says 4, I think its 14 sure I can see part of a 1 before the 4

Rg10/ 3379
folio 54
page 8 
she is near the bottom of the page

ricky
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 16:12 BST (UK)
Ricky, I thought you were asking me to look, ???   knowing I'm poor.
 but bless you , you were asking Geoff to look, who hopefully is'nt poor.
 Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: GeoffE on Sunday 26 August 07 16:15 BST (UK)
I can only see it as 4 I'm afraid :(
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 16:16 BST (UK)
Never mind,   let's grab at straw's , who was she living with ,   please. :-*
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: GeoffE on Sunday 26 August 07 16:22 BST (UK)
Grandparents Govine and Charlotte SPARROW (in Hatton).  I can't spot them in 1861 at the moment.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 16:22 BST (UK)
Hi Eilleen

Forget that one as she is alive and well on the 1881 census >:(

ricky
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 16:26 BST (UK)
Ricky,   I now see were the Sparrow flew in from ;D
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 16:32 BST (UK)
Hi Eilleen

did she have another name beside Annie ???

ricky
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 16:41 BST (UK)
Ricky,  are you getting fed up,   please don't give up the search  :'(
 as far as I can tell she was only called Annie, on wedding cert , later census and death cert,  but we all know that mean's nothing,
 I'm so desperate I am going through Gosberton 1881 census to see if any name's ring a bell  ???
 Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 16:45 BST (UK)
Hi Eilleen

There are only a few Moore's born or living in Gosberton on the 1861 and none of them are Ann, Annie, or Anne

ricky
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 16:48 BST (UK)
I did'nt relise so many people lived in Gosberton in 1881,  one great name Twelvetrees,    that would be easier to search  ???

was there a William   ???   
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: GeoffE on Sunday 26 August 07 16:54 BST (UK)
I found an Ann POSSIBLE(4) in Gosberton in 1861  ;D

By 1871 she was only PASSABLE.  ;D
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: GeoffE on Sunday 26 August 07 16:55 BST (UK)
one great name Twelvetrees,

Lots of SPARROWs there then! ;)
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 17:10 BST (UK)
Are you to both picking on me now  ???

 I can pass anything  8)

 WHERE HAS MY GREAT GRANNY BEEN !!!!!!!

 I've got to go was the strawberries, but don't feel like eating, to upset, I want my great gran  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
  thanks Ricky and Geoff  ;)
 Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 20:28 BST (UK)
Eilleen

I take it you have the marriage cert for her, do it state wether her dad was alive at the time of the wedding ???

ricky
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 20:38 BST (UK)
Ricky,   hello .
It just gives his name and occupation,
 They had'nt realised I would be looking for him "  DEAD OR ALIVE "

 answer to serious question.   it does'nt say deceased.
 Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 20:44 BST (UK)
Quick, quick, I have just read back over your's and Geoff's searching,  that one Annie aged 4yrs gosberton,   
  in 1881 Annie gave her age as 23yrs (   1858 )
yet in 1875 when she married she said she was 20 yrs, ( 1855 )
 so 1858, she could have been 4 yrs in 1861,    does this read correctly,
  did you find her and I missed it, by not giving you all imformation, am I a silly billy  ???
 Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 20:59 BST (UK)
Hi Eilleen

Only problem is that I carnt for the life of me see an Annie Moore born around that time for that area. I would have thought it would have come under the Spalding district.

Next do it have any witnesses names on the marriage cert ???

ricky
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: GeoffE on Sunday 26 August 07 21:07 BST (UK)
Quick, quick, I have just read back over your's and Geoff's searching,  that one Annie aged 4yrs gosberton,   
  in 1881 Annie gave her age as 23yrs (   1858 )
yet in 1875 when she married she said she was 20 yrs, ( 1855 )
 so 1858, she could have been 4 yrs in 1861,    does this read correctly,
  did you find her and I missed it, by not giving you all imformation, am I a silly billy  ???
 Eilleen.

The one Ricky found aged 4 was in 1871, so 10 years too young (plus he found her in 1881).

The one I found was called Ann POSSIBLE - you had been commenting on the "great names".

Seriously  :-\ (as I probably said in your first thread) there was no Annie MOORE registered in Spalding district 1853-61 (except Edith Annie in 1853), so ...

she was not registered at all, then her dad died and mother remarried
she was registered under another name, then her mother married a Mr MOORE before 1861 (but we can't see them in 1861)
the name Wm MOORE was simply made up for respectability
she was actually born somewhere else but spent some early years in Gosberton
etc etc

Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 21:21 BST (UK)
Geoff is a pessimist, but 10 out of 10 for trying,   but I cannot give up,

 Ricky , I have pondered over the witnesses but nothing is shouting out,
 they are Tom Chambers Exton's brother , that be Edward Exton.
  and some gal called Ellen Jessop, doesn't say whether she is a single or married person.

  any chance of finding any guest's  who were at this wedding , we could ask them  ;D

 That's it I'm booking in to see a medium, my great grandma will spill the bean's.
  Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: GeoffE on Sunday 26 August 07 21:27 BST (UK)
Ellen Jessop, doesn't say whether she is a single or married person.

A servant (12)  born Gosberton (in 1871 census, in Gosberton)

Daughter of William (28) and Damaris (27) in 1861 - apparently didn't have a sister called Annie :(
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 21:36 BST (UK)
Eilleen

If we carnt find her a meduim has no chance ;)
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 21:39 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff, so the wittness Ellen Jessop, was just a friend,  no lead's there then, I wonder if she returned the favour,   no I don't I don't want to even go there,
 In the last few minutes my computer went crazy, had to press on button to close it down , ( not suposed to do that )  but had loads of box'es flashing all over screen , not pop up's , just same plan box over and over again,   is great grandma Annie trying to come through  ???
 Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 21:46 BST (UK)
Just a thought, which you two may have allready thought of , was there a mrs Moore near or in Gosberton in 1861 , like Geoff said,      if Annie's mum married after Annie was born.   
  Eilleen.
 p.s  I'm going to have to save 50p a week out of my wage's so as I can pay for these look up's.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 22:24 BST (UK)
Hi Eilleen

1851

this is a shot in the dark

Elizabeth Moore head u/m? 38 charwoman Lincs Hag
Mary             "     dau u/m 12 scholar              "    Gosberton
Samuel         "      son u/m 7       "                   "            "
living at Church street, Gosberton, Lincs
H0107/ 2096
folio 273
page 8

1861
John Gaunt head mar 68 ag lab Lincs Algerkirk
Elizabeth "   wife mar 48 char woman Lincs Hagworthingham
John S Moore son/in/law u/m 18 ag serv Lincs Gosberton
Mary Ann Moore dau/in/law u/m 22  dom serv Lincs Fosdyke
Emerline Gaunt dau u/m 7 scholar        Lincs Gosberton
Samuel H Moore gr/son u/m 4 months  Lincs Gosberton
living at Donington Road, Gosberton, Lincs

Rg9/ 2322
folio 27
page 16

ricky
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 22:28 BST (UK)
Thanks Ricky,  I'm just going to digest all that  :)
 Will get back to you, I dare not see a medium, lydart has strong views  :)
 Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 22:31 BST (UK)
Ricky,  would I be right in thinking , if I found Gosberton parish register's , my Annie's baptism might be there.
 Eilleen.

 I see that John Gaunt married Elizabeth Moore in Dec 1851, Spalding
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 22:38 BST (UK)
Hi Eilleen

you would be better of asking Geoff that as never seen a parish reg ???
so couldnt really say, but I would have thought so. I go through Gosberton about once a month, if you can find out if the Lincs archives has them or the church at Gosberton, could have a look on the way through one day
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 22:43 BST (UK)
Geoff's gone, it must be late  ???
 but will follow that line of inquiry, Ricky thanks for the offer and all the help, I'm most grateful.   Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 22:45 BST (UK)
hi Eilleen

just wondered if Annie went of with her dad, but must admit she is a bit of a mystery ???
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 22:51 BST (UK)
Ricky, she was definitely a dark horse before she got married, but somewhere in the back of my mind, I thought someone had told me they found her down south on a barge before she married , so tommorrow I will drag all my paper's out and have a look through letter's.   I know I have to crack this, and all the hard work will pay off  ;D ;D
 Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Sunday 26 August 07 22:57 BST (UK)
okay Eilleen
if you can drag that info up we might be able to check it out on here ;)

ricky
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Sunday 26 August 07 23:05 BST (UK)
Thanks, that's it on Miss Moore for tonight , Eilleen.
 see you with the yellow tail lot maybe.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: GeoffE on Sunday 26 August 07 23:08 BST (UK)
Geoff's gone, it must be late  ???

Just been for a couple of pints - I'm back now  :P
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: GeoffE on Sunday 26 August 07 23:20 BST (UK)
There's an Ann MOORE (15) Donnington, a servant in Fosdyke in 1871.  As a servant, her census would have been filled in by employer I suppose.  No sign of her in 1861 nor, as I've said before, in the GRO index.

Donington about 4 miles from Gosberton.

Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: GeoffE on Monday 27 August 07 00:02 BST (UK)
This will be my final offering for tonight  :'(

1861
Donington Rd, Gosberton
John BLANCHER 28 AgLab, Fosdyke
Rebecca 28 Helpringham
Ann 5 Helpringham
William 3 Gosberton
John 2 Gosberton
Susannah 2m Gosberton
plus a visitor

1871
Earls March, Earls Farm House, Fosdyke
John MOORE 46? Groundkeeper, Fosdyke
Rebecca 38 Helpringham
William 13 Gosberton
John 12 Gosberton
Susanna 10 Gosberton
Anthony 8 Gosberton
Martha 7 Gosberton
Robert 5 Gosberton
Elizabeth 3, Mary 3 (twins) Gosberton
plus a servant

Marriages Mar 1855 
BLANCHARD    John        Sleaford    7a   445   
SHARP    Rebecca         Sleaford    7a   445

Regarding what I said before, some of it is true

Quote
she was not registered at all, then her dad died and mother remarried
she was registered under another name, then her mother married a Mr MOORE before 1861 (but we can't see them in 1861)
the name Wm MOORE was simply made up for respectability
she was actually born somewhere else but spent some early years in Gosberton
We're still lacking a William MOORE, but it's the best I can (or will ever) do!

Births Jun 1855
Blancher    Ann        Spalding    7a   294

Wait - there's Moore  ::)

Baptism Fosdyke 18 Aug 1822, John BLANCHARD son of Ann

Marriage Fosdyke 5 May 1823
Ann BLANCHER to William MOORE

It may be all irrelevant, but it was fun. :)
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Monday 27 August 07 17:31 BST (UK)
Hi there ,   no luck with my search for imformation that someone sent to me age's ago, but have spend all day clearing out my file's, that's maybe how I lost the other imformation,
 all I remember is  ::) ::) someone found a Annie Moore on a barge, or in a lodging house connected to river transport,
 I think she was a servant on barge , aged abt 17 yrs on this 1871 census , the place was somewhere down south , like portsmouth, plymouth, but just up the river from the harbour,   
    anyone want to spend time looking ??? ??? ??? ???
Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Monday 27 August 07 17:49 BST (UK)
NO ;D ;D ;D

hi Eilleen
 To be honest I would go to the archives and hunt the parish reg out, to find out what it says about Annie Moore, and when she was actually born ;) ;)

ricky
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: Eilleen on Monday 27 August 07 18:27 BST (UK)
  Ricky, I second that emotion.    :)  Eilleen.
Title: Re: Moore, 1871 census Boston.
Post by: ricky1 on Monday 27 August 07 18:32 BST (UK)
Hi Eilleen

I would have thought one of us on here would have found her if she was somewhere else in the country. Its the birth we all need just to be sure who she was and if her mothers name is on it, then we might be able to find her ;). As Geoff said her mother might have married someone else after her birth and was using that until she married, it has been known to be like that.

ricky