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Title: What is this???
Post by: Heather from Battle on Friday 31 August 07 13:28 BST (UK)
Hi All,
Can anyone identify this patch?
It belongd to my late father who served in WW2 and I assume it was part of his inignia.
Have searched the net to find it with no luck.
Thanks, Heather
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: nanny jan on Friday 31 August 07 13:39 BST (UK)
Hi Heather,

Do you know where your father served? Might give you some more clues.


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: old rowley on Friday 31 August 07 13:49 BST (UK)
I think that you may find this to be a war time souvenir rather than a part of your fathers uniform. To me it looks more like a cloth collar patch from a german uniform. You may want to look for some ww2 german uniform sites to give you a better idea.

old rowley
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: Heather from Battle on Friday 31 August 07 16:20 BST (UK)
Thanks both for your replies.

I had thought it looked German but have had no success finding it on any German sites either.

My dad served in North Africa and Italy with the GHQ Liaison regiment. Phantom Signals. I had untill recently assumed this was the Phantom 'P'. Having seen one I now know it isn't.

Cheers, Heather
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: Thudnut on Saturday 01 September 07 00:40 BST (UK)
Hi Heather,
try posting your photograph on this site:
http://forum.axishistory.com/

Good luck.
Thudders
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: Heather from Battle on Saturday 01 September 07 13:25 BST (UK)
Thanks, I'll give it a try.

Cheers, Heather
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: Thudnut on Sunday 02 September 07 10:12 BST (UK)
Good luck Heather.

I've spent ages trying to find out what it is (never could resist a challenge!).  Let me know what it is if you find out.

Thudders
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: Heather from Battle on Sunday 02 September 07 13:19 BST (UK)
Thanks Thudders,
I've spent days looking for it too!
I've posted it on the Axis history forum. 50 odd looks but no replies  :(
It certainly does look German but I wouldn't have thought dad was the type to collect a souvenir like that. More likely to be his or a close friend's.
I will find out one day.
Heather
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: Certacito on Sunday 09 September 07 18:47 BST (UK)
Looks a bit familiar.

http://www.vmarsmanuals.co.uk/newsletter_articles/phantomsignals.pdf
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: Salty on Monday 10 September 07 17:43 BST (UK)
I have to say that I don't think it is the same as in Cercatico's picture, the vertical line of the P is the same distance from the edge of the patch in it (A square) and the one shown in the first picture is a diamond shape.

Wonder myself if it is possibly from Eastern europe, Russian or Polish? Just a thought.

Salty
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: scrimnet on Tuesday 11 September 07 16:27 BST (UK)
try asking at www.divpatch.com they'll know if its a Brit one...

I've seen it somewhere, but can't remember...
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: philipsearching on Wednesday 12 September 07 01:10 BST (UK)
This may be a very naive question.  Is it definitely right side up? - if you rotate it 180 degrees and reverse it you end up with a letter h.
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: Essex export on Wednesday 12 September 07 02:39 BST (UK)
Found it on this site
www.diggerhistory.info/pages-uniforms/german-ww2.htm
but still cant tell you what it means.

Regards
Andy

PS Turn photo thru 45 degrees clockwise

PPS Scrub it!  Just found how to enlarge the picture and I have my doubts now.
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: scrimnet on Wednesday 12 September 07 07:18 BST (UK)
Doh...my brain hurts...I know..but ...arrrghhh...

I WILL post an answer today!!!
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: Heather from Battle on Wednesday 12 September 07 20:43 BST (UK)
Thanks for all the suggestions.
I too have wondered if it should be the other way up!! but still not seen anything similar.

Very frustrating :-(
 Heather
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: turenne on Wednesday 12 September 07 21:04 BST (UK)
Heather and Others

Here are some examples of German Script which may be of help. This type of script was commonly used in newspapers, official documents etc. prior and during WWII.

http://www.mun.ca/rels/morav/pics/tutor/mscript2.html

Richard
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: turenne on Wednesday 12 September 07 21:06 BST (UK)
Could it be a lower case 'k'?

Richard
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: Essex export on Thursday 13 September 07 00:30 BST (UK)
I would say it looks very much like the lower case p.
I found a site last night that showed a lot of similar badges with other letters on which were used for German troops raised from other countries such as Poland. Unfortunately there was no p like this one.

Regards
Andy
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: Mike Jackson on Tuesday 14 July 09 21:12 BST (UK)
Despite what has been said previously, this is the patch worn by one element of GHQ Liaison Regiment (Phantom) in World War 2.
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Title: Re: What is this??? 2 GHQ Liaison Regt
Post by: asherp on Sunday 03 January 10 14:29 GMT (UK)
Hello

This is the badge worn by members of 2 GHQ Liaison Regiment CM. The unit was formed in Italy on 29 January 1945 and disbanded in September of that year. The unit also known as 'Phantom' did not wear the normal badge worn in the NWEurope. It is extremely rare and probably priceless. On my website you will find my drawing of the badge.

I am researching and writing a history of the unit and have published some material about the unit. I would very much like to discover more about your father and his service with the unit. One of the former members of the unit is publishing his autobiography in the New Year. I have published a history of the unit based on records.

With best wishes

Asher Pirt

pirtonline.org
Title: Re: What is this???
Post by: asherp on Sunday 03 January 10 14:31 GMT (UK)
Do check out my website pirtonline.org