David,
Henry Galliford the illegitimate child belongs to Lousia J Galliford who married mr French (was it Thomas?)
I'm intrigued........Samuel Key and Gertrude Bennets Daughters.....Emily born 1913,Mary 1915, Hilda 1920....I'm going to have a nosy for their marriages..
I did Toni..there was a G A Key age unknown Lincolnshire regiment,that was the nearest match on the name....found two more children for Marshal Nehemiah Key and Hannah Billings......Leslie 1911....Blanch Miriam 1914.those are still coming down the family...??
I want to tidy some loose ends up before the next hunt starts..
I did Toni..there was a G A Key age unknown Lincolnshire regiment,that was the nearest match on the name....found two more children for Marshal Nehemiah Key and Hannah Billings......Leslie 1911....Blanch Miriam 1914.those are still coming down the family...??
Hi I'm back
WOW ...loads of info ... at this stage I am lost but if you tell me what to look for , I will get to it .....
deb ...drinking coffee :D
HI Deb ,hepburn
welcome aboard..... ;D...Death for Marshall Nehemiah Key (he who married Hannah Billings) 1907..
Toni,
is there an Edward Key???
from Q4 1911 - Q4 1920 there were 52 births in Stoke on Trent alone
these are the mmn.
Dodd
Halden
Bradley
Tunnicliffe / Tunniscliffe
BradleyKeyFlorence Key m. William Key
Smith
Billngs
HandRandle / RandlesHenry G
ClayForster / FosterAlbert
Bennet
Furnival
Somers
Green
Davies
Taylor / Teylor
Malkin
Maskery
Bell
i wonder if any of the fathers were George (Arthur)
brainwave has anyone looked for George under Tooth ?
What are we looking for re: George Arthur ?
Deb,
The Howe's originated in Crich Derbyshire ....Toni Thomas Lownds born 1816 we have him married to Elizabeth ******* their son Thomas Born 1842 ...looking on Staffordshire BMD there is marriage for Thomas Lownds to Sarah Keys 1844,have I got the wrong one with Elizabeth??
There is an ANN STRINGER b jun q 1839, Lichfield Staffs
deb
ummm
1841
I just found an ANN STRENGER 2 living with parents(?) John (a Bricklayer) and Harriet in LICHFIELD...she has older and younger siblings ... I wonger if Ann was indexed as Ann LOwnds ?
deb :-\
i found an Elizabeth Stringer in 1841 age 20 (rounded down) Stoke on Trent
listed just below
Thomas Lownds 25 Joiner
Elizabeth do. 25
so its looks a pretty good match
HO107 991 12 39 25
ANcestry has Elizabeth in a separate house all by herself. i'mnot sure if this is correct or not, it does look liek 20 but equally it could be 10 :-\
all three of them were born in the county
All ive found Toni is that Thomas Lownds and Sarah Keys married in Cheadle 1844,right area...
Deb,Toni
they are both from the same area,so they could be!!
I'm off to look for marriages of the Lownds siblings of Samuel..thank goodness for David's tree..
marshall Nehemiah Key married Hannah billings,they had a son same name as above.I'm sure I found a death for M N Key 1907HI Deb ,hepburn
welcome aboard..... ;D...Death for Marshall Nehemiah Key (he who married Hannah Billings) 1907..
That death can't be right if these children belong to him :~
KEY Blanche M Billings Stoke Upon Trent.6b 476 Q1 1914
KEY Edward G Billings Stoke Upon Trent.6b 418 Q3 1916
KEY Leslie Billings Stoke Upon Trent.6b 494 Q3 1911
BUT ...where was Edmund in 1881...he wasn't with them living with sampson and Agnes in 1881. he was b 1877 .... hummmm
deb
Toni,
Blimey who are these people :D there was I thinking everything revolved around Stoke on trent :D :D
recap on the children of Thomas Lownds and Elizabeth (Stringer?)
Sarah Jane Lownds = Samuel KEY
Thomas Lownds b 1842 = ??
Emily Lownds = Thomas SHAW
Eliza Lownds b 1850 = ?? is she the one that married Ralph SHAW.? Ralph married an Elizabeth not Eliza.
William Lownds b 1852 = Mary Ellen JARVIS
John Lownds b 1856 = Emma NICLIN formerly CLARK
who does Frederick Lownds b 1868 belong to , he is step son of Ralph SHAW, mother Elizabeth loUnds nee??
deb
aarggghhhhh
can't find Fred Lownds b 1868 in 1891 or 1901
deb
aarggghhhhh
can't find Fred Lownds b 1868 in 1891 or 1901
deb
could he have died ?
aarggghhhhh
can't find Fred Lownds b 1868 in 1891 or 1901
deb
could he have died ?
Hi Toni ...looked for death ...nothing looks good
deb
wonderful Toni.. :D.will David be able to follow this :o
hi i looked at the tree! it is huge how are you going to print it on one piece of paper?
i didn't realise they were Emmas grandaughters til you said, but you are descended from Maud is that correct who was Emmas step daughetr and Samuel juniors half sister so making Samuels children and Mauds children cousins.
Confused ? .. i am
there was nothing clear cut for George Arthur, lots of Georges but not George Arthurs :-\
perhaps someone should check the cwgc site for him
Thought I would do the Key family for Hepburn
Re: Lydia KEY
she did , as you said Toni, marry Enoch Whalley in 4Q 1875 , Stone
deb
Lydia born 1853 looks like she married Enoch Whalley..1875.
George born 1855 marries Sarah a Haynes 1876.
Hi Lesanne
Yes seen them ;D ;D wrong area though. I've had a brilliant contact this week on the Turners, remember my James Edwin, well she is the direct descendant of his brother George and we have been sharing lots of information and finding more out. ;D
Right sorry Hepburn for the interruption. I'm just so pleased to have made some progress with the Turners, a surname a bit like Smith.
Kerry :)